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A19224 Discoverye of a counterfecte conference helde at a counterfecte place, by counterfecte travellers, for thadvancement of a counteerfecte tytle, and invented, printed, and published by one (person) that dare not avovve his name Constable, Henry, 1562-1613. 1600 (1600) STC 5638.5; ESTC S111899 27,719 97

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those that haue vvriten against popularity vvith infamie of absurd flatterye to blot the names estimations of those men vvhich haue vvritten in the defēce of the sacred state of a kinge against all popularitye It is not to be doubted that either his late Ma. vvisedome vvould be so vnmindefull as to vvink at suche popular presōption or that his most gracious nature vvould permitt the paynes good vvilles of such vvritters to be requited for any scorne full libell put forth vnder the protectiō of his late Ma. specially times standinge as they did then Neuertheles though some haue vvritten in defence of Kinges kingly state geuen them more immunityes priuileges or prerogatiues then good kinges vvil claime or good common vvealths are bovvnde to yelde yet that excuseth not these commen vvealth mē to straye so far forth out of the right vvaye as to engrosse their bad vvays by priuat monopoles franchesies in preiudice of Royall fredome and common good of all for I am sure that many haue vvrittē apologies touchinge that subiect very laudable vpon good assertions and propositions vvith limitations exceptions allovvāces al allovvable by lavv of reason conscience yea most beneficiall to vvhole sovvnd common vvealths but quite opposite to the general pro positions assertions of these lavvyers layd dovvne for the surmised authorities their broken common vvealths suche as they haue exemplified as patternes to be folovved But this proceedinge of these lavvyers is not all that vvas to dislīke the late kīge or this liuing for albeit this author that carieth vpō his shoulders all the parties named in the sayd libel vvoulde make the late kinge beleeue that all tytles being doutfull his force might should beare avvaye the Crovvne of Englāde for him selfe or theinfante his daughter and to facilitat this course made diuerse seminaryes priestes in spayne that vvēt into englāde by threats or fayre meanes to subscribe that in theire conferences there by all possible meanes they should aduaunce the pretence of the sayd infante yet since that tyme some of his dependents vvith his priuitie practized the aduaūcement of the late earle of Darby an hereticke to the Crovvne of Englande vvhich vvrought his vntimelye death as many say besides after this he him selfe vvrotte a discour se vvhich vvas sent into Englande published to many of the best Catholickes there that he vvoulde vvishe aduise them vvhen the commoditie serued that they should make an election of some principall noble Englishe Catholicke to be their Kinge so that the late King might haue seene if he hade liued vvhat affection respect this author caried either to him or his daunghters tytle or ther persons for that as nevve inuentiōs cōceipts came in to his head he vvould frame suche nevv titles covvrses as vvould best fit the marke he shott at for his particular profit aduauncemēt vvhich if the late Kinge had liued vvould haue bene a sufficiēt vvarnīge to him for euer beinge abused by the sayd author any more no doubt vvill brede the same effect vvith the kinge present his sister the infante vvhen they shall knovv thus muche And as youe may herby see playnly vvith vvhat reasō the kinge of spayne all monarches in generall are to finde them selues greeued vvith these lavvyers for the litle respect they haue to Regall kingly authoritye vvhich kinges are for their saftie to prouide for soe is there none more toched to the quicke by thies lavvyers aucthor then the kings Ma. of Scotland nor vvhome they desire to be more defaced touching his persone Right then he for then they doe as it vvere assure them selues that all their drifts practises vvould haue suche issue as they vvish vvith outlet or empeschement VVherin first their malice is greatly to be taxed that seake to ruyn ouerthrovve a king that neuer did any of them hurte but contrarivvise hath so far fauored somme of the authors function that in deliuering them from daunger of their liues he hazarded him selse for the same as the partyes them selues can not denye if they be asked besides the fauour that he hath shevved to some Catholickes hath neuer vsed persecution against anye vnelest it be against somme verye fevve that haue bene discouered to deale in some practises vvhich he thought might be daūgerous at that tyme to his person state Secondely their arrogancy is great in that they vvill determine vvhere the right of the Crovvne of englāde avvght to be vvoulde haue euery one to folovv the same vvhen they dare not auouche their names being ashamed to iustifie their ignoraunce in the common lavves of the realme Crovvne of Englande Genealogies bi the vvhich the right is to be tried if there vvere any doubt of the kinge of Scotlandes yet neuerthelesse they vvoulde haue theire sayinges courses to disanulle anichilate the manifest knovven Right afore all others vvhiche The kinge of Scottlande hath to the Crovvne of Englande due to him first by the quiet possesiō his Ancesters for diuerse hūdrethe yeares haue had frō vvhēce he is first liniallye discended next for that he is in the first place also by the same meane vvayes that the pretendors vvhome this libeller setteth dovvne vvoulde aduaunce them selues if neede be can lavvfully iustly deriue him selfe a title long tyme afore them all to the Crovvne of Englande And lastly for confirmatiō of the same kinges right to be the truest perfectest of all other vvithout exceptiō Sr. Nicolas Saunders that vvas lorde Cheefe Baron of thexchequer in Englande Sr. Antonye Brovvne that vvas lorde Cheefe Iustice of the commen pleas Mr. Carell called the father of the Iavve attorney for the Queens Ma. of the Duchye Mr. Edmonde Ployden vvhich vvere very vertuous vvise most famous mē for their knovveledge in the lavves of the realme Crovvne of Englāde as the like hath not bene for manie yeares did vvith out doubt difficultie sincerely playnely resolue and determine that the late Queene of Scotlāde vvas next heire apparent to the Realme and Crovvne of Englande vvho vvas his Ma. Mother so consequētly she diinge her heires vvere to succeede vvho debated this point vvith the aduise of the best Heraults of Englande that could be fovvnde had also the opinions of the vviser skilfuller sorte of the Realme that did accorde vvith them yet notvvistanding all this this ignorant author lavvyers vvithout name neither vnderstanding the lavves of England nor skilfull in genealogies vvoulde haue their friuoulous and rediculous reasons to be of more ualour and credit then theis a fore rehersed Lastly thies lavvyers other are to be noted of great presumption disobedience that vvith out the authoritie or vvarrant of their superiou's specially of his holinesse others his predecessors vpon vvhō they ought chefly to relye dare ouerthrovve and make kinges forme
honor to the vttermost of th aire povver mary in ordine adDeum vsque ad aras so farre fouth as they may in adue order tovvards God and vvith saftie of a rectified conscience More thē this I am sure so good a kinge vvill not requyer Therfore vvhat so euer the sayde practizers for theire pleasures profits doe pretend blovv a broode by vvordes clamours against others for the Catholique kinges priuat or publique designes or for the common cause true it is that suche as findinge thē seliues thus affected to Gods honor safetye of theire consciēces and there vpō vnvvillinge to incouraige the sayd practizers thair cōference are the bolder to speake against bothe as they haue greater reasons more effectuall motiues in vveight measure to dislike boath And that in respect as vvel of the matter as of the manner or forme and of circūstances touchinge theffect that may depend therof or concurre there vvithall accomptinge for matter the lothesome drifts and scoopes vvherunto the sayd conference doth tend for manner forme suche absurd vvayes and meanes as theis cāuassers haue deuised to abuse the vvorld therby to vvork ther feat And for circumstances of effects the feares perills mischiefes inconueniēces thretned not only to the englishe natiō but also to the vvhole Christiē vvorld and eyther necessarilye cōcurringe vvith those cāvasses or occasiōally folovvinge them yea vvayting and attendinge to offer theit seruices The principal scoape dryft first in mynd though last in operation in meane vvhyle dissembled besides the deposīge of the present possessor is to supplant dispossesse disherit the true heire lavvfull successor of the english Crovvn vvith all the ofsprīge to translate and alter the ancient lavves and customes of that Realme and cōsequently to trāsforme the gouernement of that Nation in to a Prouince or at the least to thrust in to the Royall throne against the right course of english lavves a forainer bred borne farr of vvhiche neyther in her ovvne personne nor any braunche of the roote from vvhence theis practizers pretend to deriue hir title vvas auer herde or tho ught of in the memorye of man nor before mentioned in any record of any age to suche effect or purpose as novv is deuised Nay if any such things haue bene spokē of theis smoothe conferers haue practized in time past to suppresseit to beare the garland an other vvay that not longe a goe as heare after shal be declared And for the vvayes meanes to dravv this on they are many but all rovvghe vneauen tedious indirect out of the highe vvaye that may be lead to any good end all things vvell vveighed yet agreable to suche an attempt as in like trouble some interprises it falleth out that odd shifts must be made for tooles to remoue blockes to skovver strets make vvays clearer for crafty surmises vvily insinuations to vvalke more smoothely currātly to the marKe Touchig the scope butte of the booke I vvill speake hearafter generally for the particular mischiefes therof euery true english mā dooth throvvghlye see at the first sight In the meane tyme let vs serche the vvayes to see vvhat monsters lye hydden therin And soe vve shall find theffects like to folovv the practizes of theis conferrers vvhat gloriouse pretense so euer they geue Thersore first to begine vvithall emonge diuers Crafty shifts vvhiche vve finde there is a deuice to make the mattet seeme good by all lavvs as vvell Civil Roman as municipial englishe touchinge Ciuil gouernement and direction of thenglishe nation for guidinge the course of that Crovvne Although the same deuice be opposit to that aunciēt ordonaunce vvhich for abolishinge the force of Cesars Civil lavves our of that Realme for establishinge a municipial lavv there vvas ordained by authoritye of that famous holy father Pope Eleutherius euen in the begininge vvhen Christian Religion vvas first vniuersally plāted in that Iland and vvith the full consent and vpon request as vvell of the Christien Kinge of great britaine Lucius as also of his nobilitye spiritual and temporal lords of that Realme This deuice beinge once set dovvne then tvvo lavvyers the one a gētilmā theother a speciall temporall lavver of englāde must be brought in to represent the persones of all other lavvyers of professions vvith the tongues ofbothe those lavves Thies tvvo vvhiche neuer before agreed in this affayre many other must be novv made fryends or els all vvere marred to conspire vvith certaine Idle troublesome trauailers against the municipial lavves yea cōtrarye to the purpose vvhy bothe those lavves vver made vvhiche is to make peace and against the profession of all good lavvyers vvhiche is to resolue doubts and quarels spetially vvhē dyets are appointed for consultation as the finall cause of this assemblye touchinge suche an affayre vvolde haue bene if it had bene called in gods name and collected of setled men not of vvan dringe trauailers vvell this nevv reconciliation of auncient aduersaries is novv thovght to be necessarye as in like practizes of innouation hathe been often vsed against truthe Iustice for novv by their agremēt vve must haue not only a trāsfiguration of the shape forme of that common vvealth but a transmutation also or translation at least of the verye matter vvher vpon the true common vvealthe of englande euerye particular mans state doth rest and that is the lavves lavvful customes of that Realme as a speciall meane to haile vs al to the forsay de scope And all this must be contriued through thattonement of this tvvo lavvyers by a more spedy intrusion of Cesars Ciuil Roman lavves thovvgh they are by authentique authoritye longe agoe abolished by continuall silence vvorne out of vse buried vvith a free consent of the vvhole nation in manye ages 1. And amonge manye conclusions agreed vpon betvvene these tvvo one must be that vvhat soeuer the Ciuilien sayeth our tēporall lavvyer must svvere subscribe to it be it true or false and he must up holde the Ciuiliā vvith yea or nay at all assayes that may serue to ouerthrovve the municipiall lavves of englande vvith out respect to the vveightye reasons sage considerations therof deriued from the lavves of God and nature as most agreable to the cōditiōs and qualityes of that natiō 2. An other conclusion is that theis tvvo lavvyers thus prepared for opinions affectiōs must set forvvard so as the Ciuiliā shall lead the vvaye the tēporal lavvyer must folovv the Ciuilian shall goe before not as the angel Raphael vvent before younge Tobye to chase a vvaye murderinge diuels but to call in mischieues vpō mischieues al maner of vvayes by contentiouse spirits not to demande due dets vpō lavv fall spetialties but to make vndue dets bank roupte by playne rauin robbery not to procurre a mariage by order of lavve
of suche common vvealths must thies axiomes principles be cōfirmed as by imitable exemplare patterns at all assays So as to helpe or hinder any pretend or in this case it must be sufficient by thies mens rules to say this or that vvas done vvithout respect to this or that ought to be done or vvhat the lavve sayth for her selfe against this or that act Thus are vve novv come by help of thies mens Doctrin to reuiue allovv for lavvfull the sayenges and doings of olde tyrātes vvho to iustifie their vvikednesse vsurped in a maliciouse sen ce that anciēt prouerb quod exem plo fit id iure fit euerye thinge be it neuer so bad is lavvfully done if it can be exemplified to haue bene done espetially of a multitude that may seeme to beare the colour of a common vvealth As if a Tyrant defacto malefacto vpon possession vniust possession too shall therfore be a true kinge de Iure right fully by order of lavv As if right ought to follovv possessiō possessiō should rule the right As if an vnlavvfull bare possession of the dissezor his heyres in case of inheritance successiō by a lineal discēt to that Crovvne ought by lavv to dishable the right of a disseizer and his heyrs or in any other ovvt of the poynt of lavvfull prescription a prik of a vveapō sharper thē thies lavvyers vvil be hable to vvard If the matter cōme to a demurre in lavve 5. Furthermore the trauailers for theire parts must help the credit of thies lavvyers by a couple of odd shiefts or els all vvill not goe streight for by the meanes of their raunginge throvvgh by countries vve must haue a common opinion setled euery vvhere if it be possible that all is true vvhiche thies tvvo haue sayd as agreable to the lavves of nations And consequently a cōmon fame of three horrible blasts must course both ayre earth to possesse the mindes mouthes of the ydle vvorlde speciallye amōge the symplest and most credulous of one side vvhich for meede or dreede ar to be lead avvaye amōg suche of an other syde as are naturallye disposed or maliciously incited to desyre a chaunge The first blast is an vntrue surmise of a doubt fulnesse to be in the municipial lavves of englande touchinge the inheritāce succession of the Crovvne of englande vvho ovvght to haue it albeit in truthe the matter is verye cleare in the Iugement of the same lavve of all the vvisemen lavvyers others vvhiche haue interest to Iudge therof as vvhose states doe depend ther vpon Neuerthelesse it appereth by their ovvne confession that the doubt shall lye not in the lavve vvho ought to haue it but in theuent vvho shall haue it not vpon right but vpō the oportunitie of time The second blast is a daungerous insinuation full of sclaunderous vntruthe intolerable in dignitie vvith contradictiō that the Realme of englande is at this daye hath bene many hundred yeares destitut of a lavvfull Soueraigne And vpon thies tvvo must folovv a third to vvit a generall chalenge for the Crovvne for vvhan that surmise of doubtefulnesse hath possessed the myndes of the people all competitours and preten vvil take occasion of chalengde euerye one for him selfe and the most mightie by force or frendship vvil beare all avvaye And the other blast by insinuation shall serue as a motiue to inforce the people of al fortes for their ovvne indemnitie either to seeke the blud Royall vvher so euer they think it to be euerye one after his ovvne conceit and to bring it home if it can be founde or to intrude one or other into the place affervvarde for a colour of in diferencie to call for an election of a kinge or Queene by the deuice of thies traualers vvho mynde to sovvnde a trompette that there is not novv liuinge any of thenglish blood Royall borne in englande nor els vvhere inheritable of that Crovvne or capable of it saue onelye theone of tvvo they care not vvhether and those must bee the late Catholique kinge him selfe or els his daughter 6. And to speake some vvhat in particular touchinge the absurditie of the sayd surmise it greueth my very hart to consider vvhat paynes thies men do take to consume theire naturall coūtrie vvith the terrible fier of greate discord euil diuisiō and to vvhat fovvle shifts they are driuē that thei may cary all avvay cleanly lest they be accompted among them vvhich euen thē are most deceitfull vvhē they most pretend to be iust Therfore to put the vvorld fourth of suspition them selues fourth of Ielouzie an inconuenience that comenly hapneth vvhen old foes are be comme nevv fryēdes thies tvvo lavvyers for an other conelusiō must comply vuith the tyme like vvether vvise mē oflesbos for thies deuises can not be so closely rolled vp but that simulation must vvalke smothely either vvith tergiuersation to please displease or vvith yea nay to contredict them selues in fine to couer all vvith doublinge redoubling betvvene playne vvordes crooked meaninges from one sensse to ane other as far as any equiuocation pregnancye or other elenche of Sophistree legier demaī or deceipte of sight cā helpe for cariage of all avvaye uvith the generall drist And as I said before vvhiche is to be noted after lest theire surmise of doutfulnes in lavve doe faile they vvil in the ende depende vpon tymes speciallye as they may be made to stande more then vpon doutfullnes of lavve So as to them maye vvell be applyed that odle prouerb Omnia pro tempore nihil proveritate they measure all according to the tyme nothinge to the truth like men geuen ouer to vayn talke desirous to be accompted Doctors in lavv and ether vnderstande litle or regarde lesse vvhat thei affirme or denie if their ovvne turne may be serued vvithall no not thoughe the vvorlde do eth see hovv miserabli theire ovvne cōsciēces may be gauled by such shifs for better euidēce herof vve may note other olde corners of particular shifs that thiese men are forced to seeke for pleasig the tyme to further their surmise for though they vvorlde confesseth none vvilbe fovvnd so Impudent as openly to deny that as all men vniuersally and in particular are bovvnd by the lavve of God nature to vvish desire the cōfinuance happie preseruatiō of common quyet vvelth felicitie of their natiue Countrye so are they also by the same lavves bovvnd euery one for their degree of qualitye condition and possibilitie to employ all their bodilye trauails all their externall povvers vvith discourse of reason pregnācye of vvit cares industries and al their internal forces to prouide best means for furtherance aduancement of the same common quiet vvealth felicitie yea and to preuent cast of and eschevv all Impediments thereof all occations that may breede any peril to
A DISCOVERYE OF A COVNTERFECTE CONFERENCE HELde at a counterfecte place by counterfecte travellers for thadvancement of a counterfecte tytle and invented printed and published by one PERSON that dare not avovve his name Printed at Collen 1600. TO THE AVCTOR OF the counterfaicte conferēce c. ITvvere as easy for meyf Ivvould to discouer your name vvith assured proofes as to detect the deuises and dristes of your conterfeat conference made at Amsterdam but since as it seameth youe are ashamed to iustifye the same vvith your name I am not he that vvill publishe it because it might be thought by somme that are redye to enterpret thinges to the vvorst that hatred might induce me therunto that vvhich I desire chefely to be effected by this discourse next to the inconuenience that might generally haue grovven by your fraude and desceit vndesciphred is that you vvould looke vpon your ignorance or malice or perhaps bothe vvhich is manifest by seakinge to maKe diuision betvvene Christian Princes that are in charitye and frendship one vvith an other by defacing the Monarchical state vvhich so longe tyme hath ben vsed and approued and by disposinge of the Croune of Englande not vveighinge vvheare the right lieth but vvhear your fācye best liketh if in this later poit your vvould excuse your selfe by sayng you determine no mans title the course of your vvhole booKe and diuerses practises de facto shevue the contrarye These thinges be not os small vveight or importance for that they concerne kinges and kingdomes and require the practise vvisedome and experiēce of other maner of heddes then yours is yea and that in nombre to the assēbly of a Court Parlement Tharfore your maye see vvhat cause of discontentement you geue to all vvise and indifftrent men and vvhat disgrace you haue braught to your selfe and bretherne for thar if any happē to be kinge of England besides those tvuo youe vvould seme most to aduance it is likelye according to the rules of policye and state that your selfe vvilbe in question for meddlinge in these matters abo uè your reache and capacitye and your bretherne vvilbe blamed and banished out of the Country for approuinge or at the least for not chastisinge your levvde and yvell demenor methinketh the preuenting of these incomodities should ma ke youe cōsider of somme remedyes and the remorse of your conscience shoulde breede repentaunce vvhich cominge from the botome of youe harte vvill force youe in as ample and publicke maner to disclame and disauovve your sayd conference as euer passion and partialitye did inuite you to set forthe the same This is the best and casiest vvaye to satisfie the Princes discontented the people scandalized and your selfe endaungered and this is that I suppose your vvisest friendes vvill aduise you vnto for my particular I do praye for you and vvishe no vvaye reuenge to your person but re formation in your maners as God I call vvitnes vvho direct youe to that A DISCOVERYE OF A COVNTERFECTE CONference helde at a countersecte place by counterfecte travellers for th aduancemēt of a counterfecte tytle and invented printed and published by one PERSON that dare not avovve his name IT is obserued and hath bene noted lōge in the vvorlde that no Vanitye is so light vvhiehe beareth not somme credite no fable so phantastical but some vvill beleeue it nothinge so disorderly attempted vvhiche hath not fovvnd a supporter Euen so it falleth ovvt touchinge a certē vaine diet appointed somme yearespast to abuse the vvorld vnder the title of a conference aboute the next succession to the Crovvne of Englande beinge in deede a confused bablinge of Idle troublesome trauailers vvithout interest to deale in suche matter and a verie confederacie of a practize against the blood Royall state and dignitye of that nation Therfore vvantinge the true and certaine of place persone author and other due circomstances it may vvell be called an infamous fablinge chartel or Libel feigned to be conceiued in Holland knovven to be fostered in spayne falselie fathered of R. Dolman printed at N. to vvit no certain place Iustifiable vvith licence of it may not be knovvē vvho Neuerthelesse all must be so commended at the first sight for pleasure vtilitye the author so extolled for sharpnesse of vvitte plentye of muche readinge cunninge in conueyhance abondance of eloquēce and other graces as none can finde any vvant or default Nay to amplify the estimation as vvel of the author as of the libel it is prouided that vvhosoeuer by vvorde deede or contenance seemeth to dislike the one or the other all suche persones must be reputed by a common fame there vpon condemned as enemyes to the priuat designes of the kinge Catholique and aduersaryes to the common cause Albeit it is very likely that the late kinge of spayne nor this kinge liuinge vvere euer priuye to the contents of that Libel nor expressely consented to the publishinge therof as vvill appeare heareafter Therfore it is but a ridiculouse sentence so rashelye to censure men and very partial suche also as aduāceth the credit neyther of kinge nor cause For vvhen a man pretendethe a clayme neuer heard of in any age to an other mans lande vvhose quiet possession actually right also apparently in all vvyse mens eyes haue concurred cōtinued manye hundreds of yeares in him those vvhose state title he hath inioyeth no indifferent vvise man vvill allovve that the sodainlye supposed pretendor may haue any reason by a bare clayme to think that he should beare all avvay vvithout contradictiō especiallye vvhen the clayme excedeth measure is misliked generally and bringeth vvith it suspicion of euill dealinge other vvayes as made by trauailinge strangers vvithout the supposed pretendors vvarrant and priuitie In respect vvherof for vvant of vpright behauiour the same crime may be imputed more Iustly to the Libellor his libell as preiudiciall to the same kinge and cause For as there are manye indifferent persones in diuers nations all a like affected to the matter of suc cession not caringe vvhat vvaye it runne are not tied to the kinge in any speciall obligation nor alienated from his Ma. nor frō the sayd cause vvho are persuaded that a redier course might haue been taken vnder a better pretense for aduauncement of bothe Euen so there are manye others of the same opimon vvho if comparisōs may be allovved are accōpted to haue as muche interest as the libeller his trauailinge consorts haue in the matter of successio haue better vvarrant of Lavv in defence of Lavve to reproue that conference then those conferrers haue vvithout Lavve against lavve to iustifye or commende it yea haue bene fouvnde hetherto as redie hopinge God vvillinge so to continue as the practizers in that conference to aduaunce the common cause euerye lavvfull vvaye and the sayd kinges honorable designes also and to doe to his Ma. seruices offices in aduauncement of his
frame comon vvealths after their pleasures fancyes as thoughe they vvere the superious vpō vvhome Pope all persones of vvhat qualitye so euer are to depēde frō vvhome al persons are to receaue take their directions for spirituall temporall affaires vvhich hovve great an absurditye it is for thē to thinke that all vvise mē do not see their rashe folishe dangerous courses vvherunto they pretende doth argue ther insolenty pride so much to blinde their Iudgement as that they see not hovv their deuises drifts vvilbe vvhoped hallovved out of all mens conceipts that be indifferent and that vvould haue their Countrye kept from tyrāny spoile of ancient nobilitie lavves costumes priuiledges vvhich is that it semeth these masqued author and lavvyers most desiere And it semeth straūge to vvise vertuous people that this author disguised lavvyers makinge shevv to be Catholickes to aduaunce gods cause folovv not the patterne example of his holiness predecessors vvho haue euer helde milde modest courses tovvardes the kinge of Scotlāde moste aggreable to the Apostolicke Romaine Catholicke church vvhich is a svvete Mother esteeminge it the best and rediest vvaye to dravve gaine suche princes to the right true religiō as be out of the sayd Churche specially not of malice but by Education And yet these phantasticall Aucthor lavvyers vvould haue all violente furious courses exercised against the sayd Kinge As depriuation of his ovvne realme and right to the Crovvne of Englāde yfit laye in their povver Thoughe they see by dayly experience that both princes other particular persons of great qualitye that falle from theCatholicke Churche beinge once in it vvere accompted as desperat persones for euer returninge yet since haue reconsiled them selues vvith great repentance and haue done notable seruices by theire examples in procuring hasteninge others of principall ranck to be reconsiled as namely the most Christian kinge of fraunce hath done for the vvhich he deserueth immortall fame And therfore since God hathe geuen his grace that suche remember to returne to the right vvaye that vvere strayed forth of the same as also hath called and doth call dayly infinit nombers that haue bene borne bred vp in heresie in many places specially in Fraunce vvher of late haue bene recōsiled to the Catholicke churche as it vvere manye vvhole to vvnes and cities of people that vvhich is gteatlie miraculouslie to be noted the chefe occasion instruments hereof to be by thre persons conuerted to the Catholicke faithe that vuere in theyr kinde qualitie the most sharpest and bitterest enemies against the Catholicke cause that is to say the kinges Ma. of Fraunce that novve is a most mightie Prince the bishop of Eureux a very learned Prelate and Monsieur sainct Marye a gentilman of great respect vvherfore should these vncharitable aucthor lavvers condemne the kinge of Scottlande as desperate to reconsile him selfe to the true churche since besides that vvhich hath bene sayd of his Ma. he neuer shevved him selfe vvillfull obstinate in any of his actions but gouerneth him selfe vvith that vvisedome clemencye liberalitye affabi litye vvithe other singular naturall and morall parts vvhich God hath geuē him that gaineth him great renovvme gi ueth great contentement to them that knovve him And it is verie like that God vvho hath bestovved these notable partes vpon his Ma vvill not refuse him the grace that maye make him knovve God be best for his soules health demandinge the same as he ought to do as vpon good consideration conference if he vvill accept the same he may do hereunto no doubt vvill he be the better incited vvhen he shall thinke that it is he onely of his race that svvarueth frō the Catholicke Religiō in vvhich all his noble Princely progenitors haue liued died And specially his most sacred mother vvho sealed the same at her death vvith her bludde for the vvhiche she is a Martyr by the meanes vvherof he is a Martyrs sonne vvhich passeth the dignitye of a kinge or any other vvorldly tytle And lastly vvhen his Ma. shall here hovv disceatfully falslye Plessey Morney did alledge so many hundred places passages of the doctors others to maintaine his vvicked doctrine vvhich being manifestly discouered in his ovvne presence a fore indifferent Iudges of Catholickes of his ovvnne Religion novv knovven to all the vvorlde haue procured hi perpetual shame haue made many since that tymevvhich accōpted him as one of the chefe heddes learnednest ofther religiō to leaue him to yealde them selues to the obediēce of the catholicke churche And therfore since there is not desperation of the kinges Ma. of Scotlandes acknovvledginge the true Churche this auctor vvith his lavvyers maye see vvhat grosse and foule errors they commit that vvill not let God vvorke his vvill vvho hath the hartes of Princes in his handes but vvill take vpon them by speaches vvritinges and practises to Censure of his sayd Ma. in the vvorst sence that may be to the tuine of his honor and tytle to the Crovvne of Englande because he doth not iust at that tyme as they vvould haue hi folovve their pleasures and directions Thoughe his Holiness and his predecessors haue bene are contented to sitte stil and be silent vvithout doinge any thinge against his Ma. and haue reiected all informations vvhiche I haue herd of credit this author or somme of his associats haue caused to be geuen to his Holines or some about him to procure an excomunication against his Ma. And herin it is to be noted that his Holines predecessors procedinges and actions ar gouerned and directed vvith ane other manner of spirit vvisedome and discretion then those lavvyers haue bene and that they had and haue their scope and ende cheiffye to aduance Gods glorye and rhe true Church vvith out shovvinge fantasticall humors passion and partiallitye as this auctor and his lavvyers haue done and do And let them not think hovve smothely and svvhiftly so euer they hope to runne avvaye vvith their driftes and deuises and that they vvould seeme to daunce in a nette in suche sorte that no man shoulde marke finde their subtiltyes and craste but that they be espied and clearely seen And that vvhen opportunitye serueth vvhich perhaps vvill not be longe therunto they vvilbe mette vvith all by those that are most interessed and that the name of the aucthor of the booke of tytles vvith his odious practises shal be presented to his Holines and secunded vvith suche manifest profes as neyther his accustomed cauillations equiuocations nor doblinge vvill or shall serue for his purgation but onely simple and playne dealing must be shevved than it shall appeare vvhether princes and others haue iuste cause to be greeued and offended or no and vvhether this author meriteth not to be chastised and commaunded to retyre him selfe from meddlinge farther in matters of state vviche shal be best for the publicke good and his soulthes healthe The book of succesfiō is put fourth as a babling libel The booke vvas preiudicial to the late kinge of spay ne and to this present The argument of the treatise The conference to be disliked for three reasons Tbe scope of the conference Tbe vvayes to the marke A general compact of the conserrers so bring englande to the Ciuil lavves Roman Aspecial compact that tvvo lavvyers and not lavvmust be vmpiers of this matter Six Articles of the la vvyers agreement The Ciuilian must lead the temporal lavvyer Popularitye Popular Doctrin Feigned mnximes of foreing lavves to direct the Crovvne Practise for acōmon fame A furmised dovvtfullnesse A dangerous insinuation A sediciouse cballenge Shyfts to further surmise by complyinge vvith the tyme. Dissimulatitn duplicitie in speache must be vsed No heyr apparent must he knovvē To vvyne tyme by false bruts The Qvvene must seeme to be put in securitie for her tyme. Things must hes affirmed byvvaye of protestation onely The late earle of Darbye The circumstances of effect like co folovv this matter of con ference A vayne euasiō General mischiefs innouasion Theltbeller nayther pro fiteth the kinge nor the comon cause Of Disser uice done to the kiuge by this conference The popular Doctrin is ill grovvnded Mischieses in scotlande by this popular Doctrin Mischiefes in Arragō by the same Doctrin Mischieues of this Doctrine in the lovve Countrie This book of conferēces vvas not published vvith the late kinges priuitye nor this lininig No vvise man vvill cōsent to his ovvn The kinge preiudicied in stat by the booke manye vvayes in this dayes specially No kinge sure of his state but remouable by lavve at vvill of people A fond assumption of the lavvyers A cra sty shyft to blere the late kinge this liuin ge heeyes vvith a contradiction Flatterye dissimulation disgraceth any attempt Blasphemis against the Sac●●●d state of Regall dignitye Absurdities against bothe king subiect A kinge is but tenant at vvil of the people VVhat vashe boldenesse these difguysed lavvyers shevve This author and lavvyer mock abuse the kinge of spayne The authors extreame malyce against the kinge of scotlande This author preoccupi ethe the office of a Pope This author refusethe to take his holinesse for an example No cause to esteme the kinge of scotlande desperate to be reconcyled to the true Caetholicke churche as theis lavvyers vvolde haue the vvorld to thincke