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A78491 Certaine queres concerning the Booke of common prayer, and divers other articles of religion: propounded to a reverend divine of the City of London, and his modest reply unto the same, for the satisfaction of tender consciences; wherein these particulars are fully resolved, viz. 1. Whether the Booke of common prayer is to bee allowed by Gods Word or no? 2. Whether articles of religion agreed upon by a synod bee binding by Gods Word or no? 3. Whether we be tyed by the Gospel to the order and use of the Apostles in all things for matters of religion or no? 4. Whether there bee any right ministry or ecclesiasticall governement at this time in the Church of England or no? 5. Whether nothing may be added in point of worship but what is axactly [sic] commanded in Scripture or no? 6. Whether the clergie are to have the whole governement of the Church in matters ecclesiasticall or no? ... 18. Lastly, whether the King and State be bound to observe the iudiciall lawes of Moses in the puuishment [sic] of criminall offences or no? 1643 (1643) Wing C1736; Thomason E247_17; ESTC R206825 6,203 7

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every soule be subjest to the higher powers and as Chysostome addeth whether he be an Apostle or Evangelist or Prophet or whosoever This subjection is not against his calling Princes have full authority over all Ecclesiasticall and civill persons and equally over both to punish the offenders or to give praise to the well doers Onely this is the difference in the soveraignity over both First the Common wealth can not be without the Magistrate for it is noted a most horrible confusion when every man may doe what he list Iud. 17. ver 6. But if all Magistrates should fall away from the Church yet must we still hold this Article of our faith I doe beleeve the Catholike Church for Christ and not he Christian Magistrate is the life and head of it Againe in in the common wealth the Prince maketh or repealeth lawes as hee thinketh the sasety of his estate and benefit of his people do most require But in the Church there is no law giver but Christ Jesus James 4. ver 12. The Prince must desend the faith that he hath taught and reward the good workes that he hath commanded and see whatsoever hee shall establish by authority be 〈◊〉 sured by the rule that he hath given 1. Cor. 10. ver 23. and 1. 〈…〉 40. Philip. 4. ver 9. For God hath made the King though he were as great as an Angell 〈◊〉 servant in his Church Princes servants in the church in which respect the Prophet David preserreth it before all the glory of the World to be but a doore keeper in the house of the Lor● Psal 84.10 And when the Lord himselfe describeth the excellent 〈…〉 most noble Kings he speaketh thus to his Church They shall worship th●● with their faces bowed to the earth and licke up the dust under why feate Esa 49. ver 23. So this conclusion is plaine The Prince ruleth in the 〈◊〉 Wealth by law and in the Church of God seeth that all be ruled of the Lord. 18. Quere Whether the King of England be cheife governour under Christ over the whole church and State Ecclesiasticall in this Realme or 〈◊〉 Member of the same and whether the Church of England may be established without a Magistrate or no Ans This is answered in the 17. Quere 19. Quere Whether the King of England be bound to observe the judi●●all lawes of Moses concerning the punishment and remitting of criminall o●●●●ces or no Ans Of this we be most sure that the Law of Moses unto the people of Israell was an absolute paterne of most perfect juftice so that all lawes ought to be made according to the equity of them in such proportion of justice a may best be applied to the countrey where they are to be established For me to define of all particular causes I dare not Onely this I can say of that I read because God hath charged Yee shall take no recompence for the life of the murtherer Nomb. 35.32 And because God both by the law of nature Gen. 38.24 Equitie of Moses law And by the Law of Moses hath jvdged the adulterer to dye Levit. 20.10 I dare not avouch their pardon to be lawfull Further because in the seat of Justice the man is but a Minister and the judgement is the Lords 2. Ch●● 19. ver 6. Many learned men of our time have thought that in so plaine and expresse cases no Magistrate should spare the life of the transgressour but rather contesse as it is in Iob. cap. 34. ver 31. It belongeth to the Lord to say I will pardon I will not destroy When God shall give me more understanding I will speake more boldly in the meane season I trust I shall pray that God would give unto the Prince the spirit of Governement to doe faithfully his ●●ty whereunto he is called FINIS
Elders fellow Officers fellow Souldiers fellow labourers fellow servants feing Saint Peter expresly forbideth to exercise Dominion over the Lords heritage 1. Pet. 5.3 seeing Saint Iohn plainly condemneth the pride of Diotrophes for chalenging a Lordship to command and excommunieate of his sole authoritie epist 3. ver 9.10 seing our Saviour Christ the God of Glory No superioritie among Ministers of the tribe of Iuda neither him selfe would be a King Iohn 6. ver 15. And when his Disciples did strive for superiority he taught them plainly that the people of the Nation they had Kings and amongest them were rulers which we called gratious Lords but no such dominion should be in Ministerie Luc. 22. ver 24.25.26 I answere then that the Ministers are worthy of double honour 1. Tim. 5. ver 17. of singular love 1. Thessa 5. ver 12.13 of great reverence Heb. 13. ver 17. yea of all humble dutie yet I dare by no meanes make them Lords in the ministerie nor give to one of them authoritie above the other for feare of this sentence which shall one day prevaile Regnaverunt sed non ex me Hosea 8.4 They rule but not by me Quere Whether the patrimonie of ancient time given to the Church for the maintaining of learning the service of god to maintaine the estate ecclesiasticall as Bishops lands the lands pertaining to Cathedrall Churches the gleebe lands and thithes by order of law given to persons and Vicars are by right and gods word to be taken from them or no. Ans Sic ea qua Caesaris sunt Caesari esse donanda c. is a perpetuall rule in things of the world but yet with this caution unto every prince that feareth who is King of Kings that first there be provision sufficient made for the ministerie then that the poore may have reliefe for their necessitie last of all that Vniversities and Schooles be well maintained in such number as may still supply the want in the ministerie without which considerations the sp●●l of the church is most unnaturall sacriledge 9. Quere Whether the Ministers of this Realme of what calling so ever now in place allowed by the lawes and order of this Realme be lawful ministers and whether their administration and ecclesiasticall actions be lawfull or effectuall or no. Answere This ninth article for ought that I see is all one with the fourth 10. Quere Wheither at a mariage it is not convenient to have a Communion and convenient for the new maried persons to communicate and at a funerall to have a sermon or no. Answere I would have communions at such times as the church appointeth In which dayes if there be a marriage it is meete the parties there commucicate For funerall sermons they may be used yet if there bee in them any inconveniencie that the Church be hurt or offended being at an extraordinary time they should be left 11. Quere Whether it is lawfull for any man to preach but he that is a pastout and he onely to preach to his owne flocke or that any man may preach without a licence or no. Answere Of licenses to preach None may preach but a Pastour or Doctour and being requested upon iust occasion he may preach out of his parish But in his owne flock if he have no license to preach sure he hath no license to be a pasier 12. Quere Whether it be better and more agreeable to the Gods word and more convenient for the profit of Gods Church that aprescript order of Common prayer be used or that every Minister pray publikely as his own spirit shall direct him or no. Answere An ordinary prayer is very aecessary that it may be made familier to the people but as every parish shall have severall occation so it is necessary that the Minister be wise to pray in the congregation for the necessaties of his people 13. Quere Whether that Children of such as be perfect papists are to be baptised and whether insants are within the compasse of Gods covenant and have faith or no. Answere If the parents be obstinate and as they are here tearmed perfect papists wanting nothing of all that spirituall wickednesse and so accounted of the church then their children are not to be admitted unto the Sacraments of the Church Papish children not to be baptised although we do not remove them from the election of God But if they be not cast out of the church we may admit their children not as haveing faith which commeth by hearing but as being by grace in the covenat I am their God and the God of their seede 14. Quere Whether any ecclefiasticall person may have more ecclesiasticall liuings than one or no. Answere As the necestatie of the man requireth or the gists of God an mo●e abundant whereby thorowe great resort they are the more charged so they ought to be more liberally maintained But as for one man to have many Personages where he cannot possibly be resident it is great wickednes And seeing Christ hath purchased his people with his owne bloud who soever doth so enioy them they consider litle the exhortation of Saint Paul Of none nesidents Attend unto the flocke of Christ of which the holy ghost hath made you everseers Act. 20. ver 28. And therefore I humbly beseech the high Court of Parliament to see it reformed 15. Quere Whether that one may be a Minister that hath no peculiar flock assigned unto him and whether an ecclesiasticall person may exercise a civile function or no. Answere A Minister can be no more without a charge the● a King without a Kingdome for exercising civill government I say Neme militans implicatur vitae negotiis ut ei qui se in militiam detegit placeat 2 Timot. 2. ver 4. And I am sure what person soever seeketh after it it is for want of that love that should most abound especialy sith we see our Saviour Christ refused to be a iudge or any medler in divition of lands though he were required Luke 12. ver 13. yet will I not iudge any other who upon speciall occation in another copye it is might for a time do good unto his Countrey by meanes of intreatie seeking to do good to his brother doth take that charg also upon him 16. Quere Whether all the Commandements of God and of the Apostles are needfull for salvation or no. Answere All the commandements given without limitt of person place or time are necessary for all men ever to be observed as all other were to those to whom they were given And as Christ was a Minister not of earthly things but of heavenly so he gave no commandement but touching salvation So that the breach of the least of them if it be imputed to us hath a iust recompence of eternall death 17. Quere Whether the King of England hath authority over the Ecclesiasticall state and in Ecclesiasticall matters as well as over the civill state or no Ans Let