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A03691 An ansvveare made by Rob. Bishoppe of VVynchester, to a booke entituled, The declaration of suche scruples, and staies of conscience, touchinge the Othe of the Supremacy, as M. Iohn Fekenham, by vvrytinge did deliuer vnto the L. Bishop of VVinchester vvith his resolutions made thereunto. Horne, Robert, 1519?-1580.; Feckenham, John de, 1518?-1585. 1566 (1566) STC 13818; ESTC S104234 173,274 272

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that the Laye people shoulde behaue them selues towardes their Curates and in what wise they shoulde paie and offer to God their tithes The thirde was for making of their testamentes In Germany succeded vnto Frederike Henry and next vnto him Philip both of them inuesturing Bishops and suffering no Legates from Rome to come into Apulia nor Sicilia according to the aforesaide composition Next to whom succeded Otto surnamed of the Clergie the defendour of Iustice for where as the manner of Princes was saith Abbas Vrspurgens cheerfully and readily to geue benefices or Churches to those that did first aske them he woulde no● so doo but he gaue all the benefices that fell as well Ecclesiasticall as Secular to those with whom he was acquainted c. This Emperour came into Italy claimed and recouered al the right of the Empire that the Pope vsurped vnder the name of S. Peters patrimony and called a Synode at Norinberge about this matter and touching the Popes authoritie In England as Henry his father had doon before him so folowed king Richard in geuing Ecclesiastical promotions in calling councel● ordering other Ecclesiasticall matters yea euē in his absence being in Syria by one that represented his persone therin the B. of Ely who called and made a councel at westminster as the kings procuratour and the Popes Legate and spake by the kinges power But in this matter kyng Iohn did more thē any of his predecessours which purchased him muche hatred with the Pope and his Monkes In this while the Frenche kinge helde a Councell at Cenomannia in Turon And after him Kinge Lewes did celebrate a solemne coūcell at Paris whereat was praesent the Popes Legates In whiche time was Frederike the. 2. Emperour out of doubt saith Auentinus an other Charles the great and without all controuersie most pr●fitable for the Christian common wealth whiche not onely helde the priuileges aforesaide in Apulia and Sicilia but in all his dominions and about this mater tamed diuer Popes called and kepte diuerse Councelles aswel by his Sonnes as by him selfe ordeined certaine Ecclesiasticall lawes againste diuerse Heretiques condemninge their heresies and appointing how they should be ordered ordeininge likewise many priuileges for Ecclesiasticall personnes In whiche time Henry the. 3. Kinge of Englande helde a solemne Councell in the whiche bothe by the sentence of the Kinge and of the Princes not a fewe priuileges were taken away from the order of priesthoode at what time the Popes Legate required a tribute of all the Cleargy but it was denied him Robert Grosthed whome yée call S. Robert wrote vnto the Pope a sharpe Episile bicause he greeued the Churche of Englande with ●askes and paymentes against reason of whiche when he sawe no redresse he with other Prelates of the lande complained vnto the Kinge of the wass of the goodes and patrimonie of the Churche by the Popes neare kinseman and other alient Bisshoppes whome the Kinge auoyded out of the Realme To whome also the Emperour Frederike wrote that it was a shame for him to suffer any longer his Realme to be oppressed with the Popes tiranny Lewes the Frenche kynge called S. Lewes who as Antoninus saith was so instructed euen from his infancie in all the wisedome of diuine and good orders that there was not founde his like ▪ that kept the lawe of the high God c. made a lawe againste th●●e that blasphemed the name of the 〈◊〉 adioyninge a penaltie of a whoteyron to be printed in the transgressours forehead Also in the yeere of the Lorde 1228. He made a Lawe againste the Popes fraudes concerninge the preuentions and reseruations of the reuenues and dignities Ecclesiasticall complayninge that the Pope had pulled from him the collations of all Spirituall promotions ordeininge that from hence foorth the election of Bisshoppes Prelates and all other what so euer shoulde be free forcible and effectuall to the electours patrones and collatours of them Also the same yeere he set foorth an other Lawe againste Simonie complaininge of the bioyng and sellinge of Ecclesiasticall dignities He made also certaine godly Lawes againste whoredome and Fornication Laste of all in the yéere of the Lorde 1268. he set foorth the Lawe commonly called Pragmatica Sanctio wherein amongest other Ecclesiasticall matters againste the Popes pollinges he saithe thus Item in no case we will that exactions or greuous burdens of money beinge laide on the Churche of our Kingedome by the Courte of Rome whereby our kingedome is miserably impouerished be leuied or gathered nor any hereafter to be layde excepte onely for a reasonable godly and moste vrgent cause of necessitie that can not be auoided and that the same be doone by our expresse biddinge and commaundement of our owne accorde Conradus Conradinus and Manfredus still kepte the priuilege of the foresaide Ecclesiasticall matters in Sicilia and Apulia Shortly after this time Charles the Kinge of Sicilia and Apulia had all or most of the dooing in the election and makinge of diuerse Popes as of Martyn 4. Celestyn 5. Bonyface 8. c. Edwarde the firste Kinge of Englande aboute this time made the Statute of Northampton So that after that time noman shoulde geue neither sell nor bequeath neither chaunge neither bye title assigne landes tenementes neither rentes to no man of Religion without the Kinges leaue whiche acte sence that time hath beene more straightly enacted and diuised with many addicions thereunto augmented or annexed The whiche Lawe saithe Polydore he made bicause he was Religionis studiosissimus c. moste studiouse of Religion and moste sharpe enemie to the insolency of the Priesies At this time Philip le Beau the Frenche Kinge beganne his reigne brought vp in the studie of diuinitie vnder Aegidius the Romaine diuine by whose admonitions and also of other diuines the Kinge beinge instructed in his duety aboue al other thinges endeuoured him selfe aboute the reformation of Religion and orderinge of Ecclesiasticall matters Whereuppon lookinge to the state of the Cleargy he deposed a certaine Bishoppe for Heresie and gaue his Bishoprike to an other and besides claymed the inuestiture of all other Bishoppes in his dominions and callinge Councelles at home in his owne Realme woulde suffer none of his Cleargy to goo to the Popes Councelles He caused the Popes Bulles to be burned He commaunded the Popes Legates to auoyde his realme He commaunded that no money shoulde be caried out of the Realme to the Pope He sette foorth a Lawe that no man should goo to Rome out of his kingedome He called a Councell at Paris and caused to be gathered thither all the Prelates and Barons of Fraunce to iustifie his dooinges He shewed vnto them why he tooke vppon him to call a Councell He enueighed againste the Pope for Heresie Symonie Homicide Pride Ambition c. and that of righte he ought therefore to be deposed He demaundeth of the
Churche commaunded that no Legate of the Churche of Rome shoulde be suffred to entre into Germany with out he were called or hyred of the Emperour nor woulde suffer that any man vnder the maner of appellation shoulde goo vnto the Courte of Rome After the death of Adrian the fowrth the Cardinals fel out amongest them selues for the Election of a newe Pope some stryuinge to haue Rowlande other some cōtendinge to haue Octauian a man saith Vrspurg in all pointes honest and Religious Herevpon sprange an horrible Schisme and greate discorde Rowlande sent his Legates to the Emperour Fredericus 1. and desired him that he woulde take vp and ende this contention by his authoritie The Emperour commaundeth them both to come vnto him at Ticinum where foorthwith he sommoned a coūcell to be holden about this matter mindinge to examine bothe their causes and by searchinge to trye whose cause was the more honest Rowlande beynge afraide to haue the matter come to this tryall getteth him to William of Sicilia the Emperours mortall enemie and within twelue daies putteth on his Cope and nameth him selfe Alexander for he purposed béelyke to make a conquest of the matter He alleaged his ellection to be good out of al doubte and that he sente for the Emperours ayde and not for his arbytrement and therefore thought not good to bringe his case into doubtfull question The Emperour beynge offended with him for that he woulde not obey his appoinctement sente twoo Bishops to cite him to come vnto the Councell by the name of Cardinall and not Pope But Rowlande refused confutinge their Citacion with this Maxime or Principle Romanum Pontificem a nemine iudicari debere the Pope ought not to be iudged of any man But whē these Legates from the Emperour came to Octauiā he straight ways obeied theybrought him to Papia Vrspur saith that Rowlande was oftentimes monished to come and did contemne all those monitions The Emperour satte in the Councell as Radeuicus Frisingensis who wrote his actes witnesseth and made an oration vnto the Bishoppes wherein he declareth and that by the example of his auncestours Constantinus Theodosius Iustinianus and of later time of Carolus Magnus and other that the power and authoritie to call Councelles where the Churche is troubled with any schismes or other perillous distourbance belongth to the Emperour Notwithstandinge he committed the difininge of the controuersie to their wisedome and gaue them thereunto authoritie The councell debateth the cause consulteth with men learned in the lawe and so concludeth that Octauians election was good and adiudgeth him to be the right Bishop of Rome When they had thus tryed out the matter ●redericus the Emperour saith Platina Confirmat Octauianum Pontificem Confirmed Octauian Pope The Emperour within a while after sente Octauianus new confirmed Pope towardes Rome who dyed in the iourney After whose death the Emperour called an other councel at Wirtzberge as Auentinus writeth wherein were a greate number of Archebishoppes and other Bishoppes and also may of the nobles and states of the Empyre In this Councell a statute or Decree was made by common consente That from hencefoorth none shoulde be Pope onelesse he were created by the consent of the Emperour accordinge as the custome had bene of longe and auncient time This worthy Emperour whom the Chroniclers call Christianissimum moste Christian for his zeale towardes Goddes Churche endeuored not without great perill to him selfe and his estate to reteine the iurisdiction due to the Princes and thereby to refourme the horrible disorders that were growen so highe that they ouerwhelmed the Churche as in lyke sorte diuers other Emperours and Kinges bothe before and after had attempted but in vayne for the wealthy pride the fierce power and trayterous treachery of the Pope and his Prelates was so mighty violent and subtile that there was no earthly power able to withstande or matche with them And therfore Erasmus compteth the Popes of this time and those that folowed to be the Vicars and successours of Iulius Caesar of Alexander the the great of Croesus the ryche and of ●erxes the mighty rather then of Christe the onely Emperour gouernour of the Churche Bernarde calleth Eugenius 3. in his great pompe and pride rather the successour of Constantinus the highe Emperour then of Peter the humble Apostle And Abbas Vrspurg who lyued at this time when the Popes had spoyled the Emperour and other Princes welnighe of all iurisdiction rulinge all by theyr owne Decretalles nowe aboute this time set foorth as they listed maketh a lamentable complainte of the horrible pryde and couetousnesse of the whole clergie and concludeth with these woordes Gaude mater nostra Roma c. Reioyce O our mother Rome bycause the scluses of the hidden treasures in the earthe are opened that riuers and heapes of money maye flowe vnto thee in great abundance Be glad of the iniquitie of the sonnes of men bicause money is geuen to thee for the recompence of so great euilles Be mery and iocund for discordes sake which is thy helper bicause she is rushte out of the infernal pit that plētiful rewardes of money might be heaped vpō the thou hast that which thou hast alwaies thyrsted after synge pleasant balades for through mennes malitiousnesse not by thy Godlinesse thou hastouercome the worlde About this time the kinge of Cicilia and Apulia had a dispensation from the Pope for money to Inuesture Archebishoppes or Bishoppes with staffe or crosier rynge palle myter sandalles ●r slippers and that the Pope mighte sende into his dominions no Legate onlesse the kinge shoulde sende for him Our Englishe Chroniclers make report that the Kynges of this Realme hadde not altogeather leafte of their dealinge in Churche matters but continued in parte their Iurisdiction aboute Ecclesiastical causes although not without some trouble The Popes Legate came into Englande and made a councell by the assent of kinge William the Conquerour And after that in an other Councell at Winchester * were put downe many Bisshops Abbottes and Priours by the meanes and procurement of the Kinge The kinge gaue to Lanfranke the Archbisshoprike of Cantorb and on our Lady day the Assumption made him Archebishop On whit Sonday he gaue the Archbishoprike of Yorke vnto Thomas a Canon of Bayon When Thomas should haue béene consecrated of Lanfranke there fell a strife betwixt them about the liberties of the church of Yorke The controuersie beinge about Churche matters was brought and referred to the Kinges iudgement and Thomas by the Kinges commaundement was faine to come againe to Lanfranke to be sacred And afterwarde when there grew greater contention betwixt these twaine about Churche matters the Bishop of Rome remitted the matter to be determined before the Kinge and the Bisshoppes of Englande and so at Windesour before kinge VVilliam and the Cleargy the cause was treated Also an other cause was mooued before
Councell vnto whome they be lawfully sworne and of whome they haue receiued their dignities They all answeare that they are all the beneficiaries of him alone and that mindefull of their Faith and the Kinges estate they woulde suffer death for his glory power and saulfegarde Thereuppon he setteth foorth a pragmaticall sanction or forceable lawe to diminis he the dignitie of the Pope Many other Ecclesiasticall Lawes he made againste the Iewes againste the Templars against adulterie c. He made also Clement the fifth Pope and swore him to certaine cōdicions before hande by whose importune meanes also the Generall councell of Vienna was holden In whiche Councell he laboured to haue Pope Boniface condemned for an Heretique affirminge that he woulde proue him so But the mater was taken vp and to satisfie the kinge it was decreed that all the processes of Bonifacius against the kinge were vniust and the kinges doinges in any point against the Pope should not be preiudicial to him or to his heyers About the time of this Councell at Vienna the famous schooleman Durandus setteth foorth a booke wherein as he rekeneth vp diuerse and great enormities in Church matters so for the reformacion of them he alwaies ioyneth the kinge and secular Princes and the Prelases and to this purpose citeth the fourme of the auncient Councelles and many times enueigheth against and complaineth vppon the vsurped authoritie of the Romaine Bishop warninge men to beware how they yéelde vnto him and prescribeth a rule for the Princes and the Prelates to refourme all these enormities not by custome were it neuer so auncient but by the woorde of God About this time also the Emperour Henry the. 7. came into Italy with great power to reduce the Empyre to the olde estate and glory of the auncient Emperours in this behalfe And on the day of his coronation at Rome accordinge to the maner of other Romaine Emperours he set foorth a Lawe or newe authentique of the most high Trinitie and the Catholique faith Nexte to Henry 7. was Lewes 4. Emperour who had no lesse but rather greater conflictes with the Popes in his time about the reformation of abuses than any had before him the Pope nowe claiminge for an Ecclesiastical matter the confirminge of the Emperour as before the Emperours were wonte to confirme the Popes About whiche question the Emperour sent and called many learned Clerkes in Diuinitie in the Ciuill and Canon Lawe from Italy Fraunce Germany Paris and Bononia whiche all aunswered that the Popes attemptes were erronious and derogating from the simplicitie of the Christian Religion Whereupon the Emperour willed them to searche out the matter diligently and to dispute vpon it and to gather into bookes their mindes therein whiche diuers did as Marsilius Patauinus Ockam Dantes Petrarche c. By whome whan the Emperour vnderstoode the Popes vsurpation he came to Rome called a councell and deposed the Pope placed an other in his rowme In whiche councell the Romaines desired to haue their olde order in the Popes election ratified by the Emperour to be renewed This Emperour also called avery great coūcell at Frākeforth where besides the Spirituall and Secular Princes of Germany the kinge of Englande and the king of Beame were present where by the greater and sounder part the Popes aforesaid vsurpation was abolished Which sentence the Emperour confirmed and published writing therof that his authoritie dependeth not of the Pope but of God immediatly and that it is a vaine thinge that is wont to be saide the Pope hath no superiour The Actes of this councell against the Popes processe were ratified by the Emperour as appeareth by his letters patentes thereupon beginning thus Lodouike the fourth by the grace of God c. To all Patriarches Archebisshoppes Bisshoppes and Priestes c. and ending thus VVherfore by the councell and consent of the Prelates and Princes c. VVe denounce and determine that all suche processes be of no force or moment and straightly charge and commaunde to all that liue in our Empire of what estate or condition so euer they be that they presume not to obserue the said sentences and curses of the Popes interdiction c. An other Councell he called afterwardes at the same place about the same matter bicause Pope Clement called it Heresy To saie that the Emperour had authoritie to depose the Pope whiche heresy as principal he laide first to the Emperours charge Item that the Emperour affirmed that Christ and his Apostles were but poore Item the. 3. heresy that he made and deposed Bysshops Item that he neglected the Popes interdightmēt c. Item that he ioyned certaine in mariage in degrees forbidde he meaneth forbidden by the Popes Lawes and deuorceth them that were maried in the face of the Churche Whiche in deede was nothing els but that amōgest other Ecclesiastical lawes that the Emperour set forth were some for mariages and deuorcementes contrary to the Popes decrees In Fraunce king Charles denied the Pope the tenthes of his Clergie But Philip de Valoys that followed reformed and tooke away many late vpstart Ecclesiasticall abuses in the Clergy and Prelates in his Realme of the whiche diuerse complaintes being made vnto the king he called a councel at Paris and sommoned thither the Bishoppes as appeareth by his letters wherein he complaineth that they haue enchroched from him and his officers a great many of rightes bringing in their nouelties not due and vnwonted grieues vnder the pretence of Ecclesiastical causes whereby they haue broken the concorde of the Clergie and the Laity and therfore willing to prouide so muche as he can by Goddes helpe an healthfull remedy He requireth and neuerthelesse commaundeth them to appeare before him at Parys personally c. The Prelates appearing at the daye assigned before the kinge in his Palayce Archebisshoppes Bisshoppes and makinge reuerence to the kinges maiestie being set downe with his councell and certeine Barons assisting him a certeine knight of the kinges councell spake publykely for the kinge in the presence of them all takinge for his theme this texte Geue that vnto Caesar that belongeth to Caesar and that vnto God that is due vnto God c. The kinges admonition being made a great many complaintes were put vp vnto the king by his nobles and officers against the Clergies vsurpation in medling with contractes of mariages in their priuileges of Clerkes In citations to their Courtes in their excommunicatiōs in willes and hereditamentes in callinge of prouinciall councelles in making synodall Decrees and statutes in medling with realties in perēptory writes in examinations of mens beleues in enioyning of money penances In shauing of children and vnlauful persons making thē Clerkes in whoordome and fornication in wyddowes goodes in bloudshead in the Churcheyarde in inuentories c. and in a great many mo matters whiche ye call Spirituall or Ecclesiasticall causes the
the Kinge of the misorder of Thurstan whome the Kinge had made Abbot of Glastonbury by whose iudgement the Abbot was chaunged and tourned to his owne Abbay in Normandy but the Monkes scattered aboute by the Kinges hest After this the kinge bestowed many Bishoprikes on his Chaplaines as London Norwiche Chester Couentry c. And ruled both the Temporalty and the Spirytualty at his owne will saithe Polychronicon He tooke noman fro the Pope in his lande he meaneth that the Kinge woulde suffer no Legate to enter into the lande from the Pope but he came and pleased him he suffered no Councell made in his owne countrey without his owne leaue Also he woulde nothinge suffer in suche a councell but as he woulde assent So that in geuinge or translatinge of Spiritual promocions in geuing his assent to councels and suffring nothing to passe without his cōsent in hearing and determining Ecclesiasticall causes in restreining the Popes libertie without his speciall licence and in ruling the s●iritualtie at his owne wil king William sheweth plaine that he tooke him selfe for the supreame gouernour within this Realme in all maner of causes so well Ecclesiasticall as Temporall In like maner did his sonne William Rufus who made Anselme Bishoppe of Yorke and afterwardes translated him to Cantorbury But within a while strief and contention fell betweene him and Anselme for Anselme might not call his Synodes nor correct the Bisshops but as the king would the king also challenged the inuestiture of Bishoppes This king also forbad the paiyng of any money or tribute to Rome as saith Polychronicon The like inhibitiō made Henry the first and gaue Ecclesiasticall promocions as his auncestours had doone wherefore Anselme fel out with the king and would not consecrate suche Prelates as he beynge a Lay man had made but the Archebishop of Yorke did consecrate them and therefore Anselme fledde the Realme In an other councell at London the Spiritual condescended that the kinges officers should punishe Priestes for whoordome The cause of this decree as it seemeth was that a Cardinall named Ioannes Cremensis that came to redresse the matter after he had enueighed against the vice was him selfe the same nyght taken tardy In the whiche councell also saith Polydore the king prouided many thinges to bee enacted whiche shoulde greatly helpe to leade a Godly and blessed life After this the kinge called an other counsell at Sarisbury Sommoning thither so well the chief of the Clergie as the people and swore them vnto him and vnto William his sonne Whereupon Polydorus taketh occasiō to speake of the order of our Parliament though it haue a French name yet in deede to be a councell of the Clergy and the Laitie whereof the Prince hath a ful ratifiyng or enfringing voyce And not only saith he this king did make Bisshoppes and Abbottes whiche he calleth holy rites Lawes of Religion and Church ceremonies as other likewyse cal it Ecclesiasticall busines but the Princes of euery nation began euery where to claime this right vnto them selues of naming and denouncing of Bisshoppes the whiche to this daie they holde fast with toothe and nayle Also Martinus here noteth Vntill this time and from thence euen till our daies the king of Hungary maketh and inuestureth according to his pleasure Bisshops and other Ecclesiastical persones within his Dominions And here sithen I am entred into the noting of the practises of other countries in this behalfe I might not onely note the doinges about this time of Frederike king of Sicill and Iames the king of Spain his brother in reformation of Religion in their Dominions as appeareth in their Epistles writen by Arnoldus de noua Villa but also make a digression to the state of other partes in Christendom as of the Churches of Grece of Armenia of Moscouia c. that acknowledged not any but onely their Princes to be their supreme gouernours in all thinges next to Christe as especially also to note that most aunciēt part of Christendome southwarde in Aethyopia conteining 62. kingdomes vnder y e ruling of him whom we misname Presbyter Ioannes as who saye he were a Prieste and head Bishoppe ouer those Christian Realmes hauinge suche a power with them as the Popes vsurpation hath challenged here in Europe to be an head or vniuersall Priest and kinge If we may beleue Sabellicus who sayth that he hath bothe often talked with the marchauntes that haue their traffique there and hath also diuerse tymes enquired the matter by an interpretour of the inhabitauntes there borne they all saie that his name is neither Presbyter Ioannes nor Pretto Ianes but saye they his name is Gyā that is mightie and they marueile greatly what the Italians meane to call him by the name of Priesthoode But this they saie that all the suites or requestes euen of their greate Bisshoppes are brought before the kinge him selfe and that all their benefices or Spirituall promotions be obteined at his handes So that there beynge as Sabellicus telleth further an exceadinge great nomber of chiefe Prelates or Metropolitanes and vnder euery one Prelate at the least twenty Bishoppes all their sutes and causes Ecclesiasticall beyng brought vnto him and he the maker of all these Prelates Bishoppes and other Ecclesiasticall persones he is called ouer them all Clergie or Laye in all causes Ecclesiasticall or temporall Cyā the mightie that is the supreme Ruler and Gouernour and euen so hath continued sithen those partes were first Christened as they saye of Thomas Dydimus the Apostle vntill our time But this by the waye nowe from them to retourne to our owne countrey In England also king Stephan reserued to him self the inuestitures of the Prelates as likewise after him did Henry the seconde that made Thomas Becket Archebisshoppe of Cantorburie who thereat was sworne to the kinge and to his Lawes and to his Sonne In the ninth yeere of his reigne this kinge called a Parliament at Northampton where he entended reformation of many priuileges that the Clergie had and amongest these was one that although one of the Clergie had committed felonie murder or treason yea● might not the kinge put him to death as he did the Laye menne The whiche thinge with many other the kinge thoughte to redresse in the saide Parliament Thomas Becket resisted him but he mighte not praeuayle againste the kinge For well neere all the Bisshoppes of Englande were against him In the 17 ▪ ●ere of his reigne the king made a iourney into Ireland wherewith great trauaile he subdued the Iris he and after with the helpe of the Primate of Ar●●ch he refourmed the manners of the people and dwellers in that countrey and that in three thinges especially ●irst in rulinge and orderinge of the Churche by the Curates and howe they shoulde order their diuine Seruice and minister the Sacrament of matrimonie as it was in Englande and other Christian Regions The seconde was howe
Frenche kynge prouing them to be as in deede they were no other but temporall neuerthelesse not standinge muche about the name nor taking them all away from their iurisdiction he onely said he would reforme them Neuerthels for certeine daies there was muche disputing to and fro whether they belonged to the kinge to reforme or no till the king by his foresaide procuratour gaue them the kinges determinat aunswere declaring vnto them howe that they ought not to be troubled bicause the kinges intention was to keepe those rightes and customes of the Churche and Prelates which were good and reasonable but by reason of their faults the iudgement whiche were good and reasonable apperteined not vnto thē to determine but to the king Bicause the Decree Nouit c. saieth that the kinge of Fraunce in matters de Facto hath not his superiour c. VVhereuppon hee concluded that the kinge woulde heare all the informations And those Customes of the whiche he shoulde be fully enfourmed that they were good and reasonable he woulde make onely to bee obserued In cōclusion the Prelates made such importune labour that the forsaide attourney aunswered them for the kinge that if the Prelates themselues would amende those thinges that were to be amended and corrected the king would abide till the feaste of the Natiuitie next to come within whiche terme he woulde innouate nothing but if within the saide terme the Prelates had not amended those thinges that were to be amended and corrected that then the kinge would put to suche remedy as should be acceptable to God and the people Whiche in conclusion the king was faine to do by a sharpe seuere Lawe whan he sawe howe the Prelates dallied him of with faire wordes and therefore he him selfe Composuit rem sacerdotum did set in order the matters of the Priestes In England at this time many abuses about Ecclesiasticall causes were reformed although the Pope his Clergie did earnestly mainteine them by king Edwarde the. 3. who wrote his letters to y ● Pope admonishing him to leue of his disordered doinges whan that woulde not serue he redressed them by act of parliament and as Nauclerus saith he commaunded that from thenceforth no body shoulde bring into the Realme any kinde of the Popes letters vnder the paine of drowning and expelled all persones out of his kingdom that weare by the Pope promoted to any benefice Next to Lewes was Charles the. 4. chosen Emperour who helde a councel at Mentze with y e Prelates Princes in the yere of the Lorde 1359. wherein he much reproued the Popes Legate for his disorders and commaunded the Archbishop of Mentze to reforme his Clergie and the disorders amongest them for otherwise he woulde see to it him selfe The Popes Legate seyng howe the Emperour tooke vpon him gate him to his shippe and saylled to Colayn as one that fledde awaye With whiche doynges the Emperour became very famouse for he was a man of great workes who dyd lyghten the kyngdome of Boheme bothe with the the settinge foorth of Religion and with the discipline of Lawes and good manners At this time wrote Nilus the Bishoppe of Thessalonica declaringe the onely cause of the diuision betwéene the Gréeke and the Latine Churche to be for that the Pope will not suffer frée and generall Councelles to be called by the Emperours accordinge to the auncient custome that his authoritie is not by the Lawe of God but by the positiue Lawes of Princes graunted onely because that than Rome was the greatest Citie in the worlde and hath no prerogatiue of Christ or Peter more than any other Bishoprike Kinge Richarde the. 2. called a Councell at VVestminster saith Polydore wherein it was thought good to the Kinge and the Princes for the weale of his realme of Englande if a parte of the Popes authoritie were bounded within the limites of the Occean sea he meaneth that it were driuen out of the Isle of Britaine wherfore it was decreed that hereafter it shoulde be lawfull to no man to trie any cause before the Bishop of Rome nor that any man be publikly pronounced wicked or enemy of Religion that is to wit as the common people terme it be excommunicate by his authoritie nor that if any man haue any suche commaundement from him they execute the same The penaltie ordeined to those that violate this lawe was that losinge all his goodes he shoulde be caste into perpetuall pryson The Churche of Rome at this time was maruailously torne in sunder with an horrible Schisme whiche continued about xl yéeres hauinge at ones thrée heades callinge them selues Popes euery one of them in moste despitefull wise calling the other Antichrist Schismatique Heretique tiraunt thiefe traytour the sonne of perditiō sower of Cockle the childe of Belial c. diuerse learned men of that time inueighed against them all thrée as Henricus de Hassia 10. Cerson Theodorych Nyem secretary before this to Pope Boniface who prooueth at lardge by good reasons by the woorde of God and by the Popes decrées that the refourmation of these horrible disorders in the Churche belonge to the Emperour and the secular Princes Sigismunde the noble Emperour vnderstandinge his duetie herein amongest other his notable actes called a Councell togeather at Constantia and brought againe to vnitie the Churche deuided in three partes whiche Councell saithe Nauclerus beganne by the Emperours commaundement and industry in the yeere 1414. To the whiche Councell came Pope Iohn before the Emperours comminge thinkinge to haue outfaced the Councell with his pretensed authoritie till the Emperour came who geuinge to all men in the Councell free libertie to speake their mindes a great companie of horrible vices were laide streight way to his chardge To the whiche when he was not hable to answeare he was deposed and the other twoo Popes also and an other chosen chiefly by the Emperours meanes called Martyn the. 5. After these thinges finished they entred into the communication of a reformation bothe of the Cleargie and the Layty to whiche purpose the Emperour had deuised a booke of Constitucions and also willed certaine learned Fathers there but specially the Bishoppe of Camera a Cardinall there presente to deuise what faultes they coulde finde and how they shoulde be redressed not sparinge any dégrée neither of the Prelates nor of the Princes them selues Whiche the Bishoppe did and compiled a litle booke or Libell entituled a Libell for reformation of the Churche gathered by Peter de Aliaco c. and offered to the Churche rulers gathered togeather in Constaunce Councell by the commaundement of the Emperour Sigismonde c. In this Libell of reformation after he hath touched the notable enormities in the Pope in the Courte of Rome in the Cardinalles in the Prelates in Religious personnes and in Priestes in exaction in Canons and Decretalles incollations of benefices in fastinges in the diuine seruice in Piaures in
Electiōs reseruations expectatiues Annates vnfit pastours pardons tythes the spiritual courtes c. beseching him to haue some redresse herein Who being moued with the admonitions aduisementes and exhortatiōs of the learned Clergy the godly Princes at the length called a councel at Triers Colayn for the redresse of these and other enormities in the yere of the Lorde 1512. whiche was the fourth yere of the reigne of the moste renoumed kinge of England king Henry the eight In this councel amongest other thinges bicause there was a suspicion of a Schisme breedinge and of greuaunces in the Church it was necessarily decreed that the Emperour and Princes electours with other Princes and states of Thempire should loke about them and wel consult by what meanes these greeues might be taken away most commodiously and the Schisme remoued and euill thinges reformed to edification It was decreed also against blasphemours to paie either a somme of money limited or to suffer death And that all men should know this decree it was thought good to the Princes and states of the Empire that al preachers and persones should at all high feastes preache vnto the people thereof faithfully This being doon Maximilian set forth a decrée for y e takinge away of the forsaid Ecclesiastical greuaunces wherein he declareth that though of clemency he haue suffered the Pope the Clergy herein as did his father Frederik Yet not withstanding sith that by his liberalitie the worshippe and seruice of God hath fallen to decaie it apperteineth vnto his dutie whome God hath chosen vnto the Emperial throne of Rome that amongest all other moste great businesses of peace and warres that he also looke about him vigilantly that the Churche perishe not that Religion decaie not that the worship of the seruice of God be not diminished c. In consideration wherof he prouideth that a man hauing in any citie a Canonship or Vicarship enioy not any prehende of an other Churche in the same citie c. making other decrées against suing in the Ecclesiasticall courtes for benefices for defence of Lay mens patronages for pensions against bulles and cloked Symony c. After this the Emperour Lewes the French king concluded together to call a general coūcel at Pise to the whiche also agreed a great part of the Popes Cardinals Many saith Sabellicus began to abhorre the Popes Courtes saying that all thinges were there defiled with filthy lucre with monstruous and wicked lustes with poysoninges Sacrileges murders and Symoniacall fayers and that Pope Iulius him selfe was a Symoniake a dronkarde a beaste a worldling and vnworthely occupied the place to the distruction of Christendome and that there was no remedy but a generall Councell to be called to helpe these mischiefes to the whiche his Cardinalles accordinge to his othe desired him but they coulde not obteyne it of hym Maximilian the Emperour being the authour of it with Lewes the Frenche king bicause the histories doo beare recorde that in times past the Emperours of Rome had wont to appointe councels they appointe a councell to be holden at Pyse Maximilian the Emperour Lewes the French king and other Princes beyonde the seas were not more carefully bent and moued by their learned men to refourme by their authoritie the abuses about Church matters thā was king Henry the eight at the same time king of Englande of most famous memory who following the hūble suites and petitions of his learned Clergy agreynge thereupon by vniforme confent in their conuocation toke vpon him that authoritie and gouernement in all maner matters or causes Ecclesiasticall which they assured him to belonge vnto his estate both by the worde of God and by the auncient Lawes of the Churche and therfore promised vnto him in verbo sacerdotii by their priesthood not to do any thing in their councelles wiehout his assent c. And this Clergie was not onely of Diuines but also of the wysest moste expert and best learned in the Ciuil and Canon Lawes that was than or hath been sence as D. Tonstal Bishop of Duresme D. Stokesley B. of Londō D. Gardiner Bishop of Wynton D. Thirleby Bishop of Westminster and after of Norwiche your olde maister D. Bonner who succeded Stokesley in the sea of Londō and many others by whose aduise consent there was at that time also a learn●d booke made published De vera differentia Regiae potestatis Ecclesiasticae whiche I doubt not but yée haue séen longe sythen Neither was this a newe deuise of theirs to please the king with al or their opinion onely but it was and is the iudgement of the moste learned Cyuilians and Canonystes that when the Cleargie are faultie or negligent it apperteyneth to the Emperour to call generall councelles for the reformation of the Churche causes as Philippus Decius a famous Lawyer affirmeth And the Glossator vppon this Canon Principes affirmeth that the Princes haue iurisdiction in diuers sortes within the Churche ouer the Cleargie when they be stubbourne ambitious subuerters of the faith falsaries makers of Schismes contemners of excommunication yea also wherein so euer the Ecclesiasticall power faileth or is to weake as in this Decree He meaneth where the power of the Churche by the woorde of doctrine preuaileth not therein must the Princes authoritie and iurisdiction take order for that is the plaine prouiso in the decrée The woordes of the decree are as followe The seculer Princes haue oftentimes within the Churche the highest authoritie that they may fence by that power the Ecclesiasticall discipline But within the Churche the powers of Princes shoulde not be necessary sauinge that that thinge whiche the Priestes are not able to dooe by the woorde of doctrine the power of the Prince may commaunde or obtaine that by the terrour of discipline The heauenly kingedome dooth oftentimes preuaile or goo forwarde by the earthly kingedome that those whiche beinge within the Churche doo against the faith and discipline may be brought vnder by the rigour of Princes and that the power of the Princes may lay vppon the neckes of the proude that same discipline whiche the profite of the Churche is not hable to exercise and that he bestowe the force of his authoritie whereby to deserue woorship Let the Princes of the worlde well knowe that they of duety shall rendre an accompte to God for the Churche whiche they haue taken of Christe to preserue For whether the peace and discipline of the Churche be encreased by faithfull Princes or it be loosed He doth exact of them an accompt who hath deliuered his Churche to be committed to their power To this effect also writeth Petrus Ferrariensis a notable learned man in y e Lawes saying Thou ignorant man thou oughtest to know that the Empire the Emperour ones in times past had bothe the swoordes to witte bothe the Temporall and Spirituall in so much that the Emperours then bestowed all the Ecclesiasticall
Emperours wordes for as Sozomenus one of y e Tripartite Ecclesiasticall historians affirmeth this suite to be made by catholike Bishops of Hellespōtus Bithinia vnto Valentiniā and that this was his answere to their peticion Euen so Socrates an other of the same tripartite historiās affirmeth that this suite was made by the Macedonians vnto Valens the Emperour who graunted them their petition the rather supposing that the mater should haue ben determined in that councel after the mindes of Eudoxius Acatius And it is not from the purpose to note which of these Emperours caused this councel to be called for the one of thē Valentiniā was a catholique Emperour the other Valens an Arian Secondly you do falsely report the story for the Bishops of Hellespontus Bithinia did not make suite vnto Themperour Valentinian that he would be praesent in the councel but by their messenger did humbly beseche him that he would cōmaunde al the Bisshops as Nicephorus reporteth it or y t he wold suffer and geue leue vnto the Bishops to haue a Synode or councell which they held after licēce obteined at Lampsacum as Socrates and Sozomenus the Tripertite Historians make relation Thirdly the Emperour dooth not simply refuse or denie the searche and diligent enquyrie of these matters as thinges nothing apperteining to his office or not lawfull for him to enquire of as ye woulde haue it seeme but excuseth himselfe by his earnest busines and want of leysure saiyng It is not lawfull meaning that his leisure from the waighty matters of the common weale and iust oportunitie woulde not easely nowe suffer him to trauaile in those causes and therefore referreth the exact sifting of those thinges to them whose offices and charge was properly to be occupied in those matters That this is the true purporte of his wordes in his right sense and meaning appereth plainly by the due circumstances set foorth in the story and also by Nicephorus an Ecclesiastical historiā who rightly vnderstode his meaning and reporteth it in these wordes Mihi negotijs occupato reip curis distento res eiusmodi inquirere nō facile est It is no light or easy matter for me that am nowe occupied with businesses and filled so ful as I may be with the cares ef the cōmon weale to enquire or searche suche matters Last of al whether the catholique Bishops of Helespontus and Bithynia required the Emperours presence in the councell as ye affirme or they required therwith his labour and trauaile in the debating or searchinge the truthe of matter whiche may seeme at the first by the bare woordes of his aunswere or they desiered onely licence of him and permission to assēble togeather in Synode or councell to defermine and decrée with the truthe against the Arianismes whiche the moste and best parte of the Historians agree vnto Their sute and humble peticion maketh plainly against your presumpteous assertion in that they acknoweledged thereby the iurisdiction to call councelles to be in the Emperour and not in Bishoppes or Priestes without speciall leaue licence commission from the Prince For if the power and iurisdiction to call councels had ben in them selues without the Emperours cōmission what neaded them to haue craued licence of the Emperour And if it had not béene lawfull for the Emperour to haue béene present in the Councell and to haue dealte in the diligent searche and debating of matters in Religiō then these Catholique Bishoppes did wickedly who as you say mooued him thereunto Although yée vntruely report the story of Theodosius the Emperour and Ambrose the Bishop of Myllaine yet can you not by any meanes wraste it to serue your purpose any whit at all For if it were true that Ambrose forbadde Theodosius the Emperour the entraunce into the Chauncell or that the Emperour had said to him that he had learned the difference betwixt an Emperour a Priest yet can you not conclude therof therfore Bishoppes and Priestes haue power authoritie to make lawes orders and decrées to their flockes and cures and to exercise the seconde kinde of Cohibytiue Iurisdiction ouer them Theodosius as the authour writeth came into the Chauncell to offer his oblacion whereat S. Ambrose founde no fault But when he stayed there still to receiue there the holy Mysteries S. Ambrose sent him woorde to goo foorth and abide with the other of the Church for that place was onely for the Priestes For which monicion the Emperour was returned to Constantinople and came on a time into the inwarde place or Chauncell to offer his oblation and went foorth againe so soone as he had offred Nectarius the Bishop demaunded of him wherefore he taried not still within meaninge to receiue the holy mysteries To whom the Emperour maketh answeare saying I haue scarcely learned the difference betwixt an Emperour and a Priest Fekenham M. Iohn Caluyne intreatinge of the Histories betvvixte these Emperours Valentianus Theodosius and S. Ambrose after alonge processe vvherein he maketh good proufe that all Spirituall iurisdiction doth apperteine vnto the Churche and not vnto the Empyre he hath these vvoordes follovvinge Qui vt magistratum ornent Ecclesiam spoliant hac potestate non modo falsa interpretatione Christi sententiā corrumpunt sed sanctos omnes Episcopos qui ●am multi à tempore Apostolorum extiterunt non leuiter damnant Quod honorem officiumque Magistratus falso praetextu fibi vsurpauerint How they doo spoyle the Churche of that authority thereby to adorne temporall Magistrates not onely by corruptinge Christ his appointment and meaninge therein But also they lightly condemne and set at naught all those holy Bishops which in so great number haue continued from the time of the Apostles hitherto which honour and office of Spirituall gouernement they haue saith Iohn Caluin vsurped and taken vppon them by a false pretext and title made thereof And againe Iohn Caluin saith Qui in initio tantopere extulerunt Henricum regem Angliae certe fuerunt homines inconsiderati Dederunt illi summam omnium potestatem Et hoc me semper grauiter vulnerauit erant enim blasphemi cum vocarent ipsum summum caput Ecclesiae sub Christo They whiche in the beginnyng did so much extoll Henry kinge of England and which did geue vnto him the highest authority in the Churche they were men whiche lacked circumspection and of small confideration whiche thing saith Iohn Caluin did at all times offende me very muche for they did commit blasphemy and were blasphemets when thei did call him the Supreme head of the Churche The B. of Wynchester The collectour of your cōmon places did beguile you which you would haue perceiued if you had redde M. Caluin with your owne eyes He entreateth not in that place of the Histories betwixt the Emperours Valentinianus Theodosius and S. Ambrose He confuteth the opinion of such as thinke the Iurisdiction that Christ gaue vnto his church to be but for a time whilest the