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A46413	King James, his apopthegmes, or table-talke as they were by him delivered occasionally and by the publisher (his quondam servant) carefully received, and now humbly offered to publique view, as not impertinent to the present times / by B.A. gent.	Agar, Ben, 17th cent.; James I, King of England, 1566-1625.	1643 (1643)	Wing J127; ESTC R8288	14,692	16

KING JAMES HIS APOPTHEGMES OR TABLE-TALKE AS THEY VVERE BY Him delivered Occasionally AND By the publisher His quondam Servant carefully received AND Now humbly offered to publique view as Not impertinent to the present Times By B. A. Gent. London printed by B. W. 1643. The Preface or Induction to the Reader AS the Queen of Sheba declared the servants of Solomon to be happy which stood continually before him and that heard his wisdome 1 King 10. 8. I may as confidently affirm that never since hath any Age produced a Prince of so neere affinity or resemblance unto him who of so ample indowments in wisdome judgement and equity hath enlarged himselfe in his life time witnesse the many and manifold unparalelled Trophies of his excellencies yet remaining which flowed not alone from his pen and indefatigable dexterity but sacred lips also by eloquent discourses as well as profound documents and deep Commentaries whereof a late extraction is yet extant in view I therefore conceived it a needfull duty in pious imitation of the former to revive the memory of so just and learned a master in his ordinary discourses and Table-talke accounting my selfe the most happy though least worthy of many to partake of such gracious opportunities which those Halcian dayes did plentifully afford conceiving it might be objected against me as a piece of ingratitude to have deprived the time or posterlty of such Gems and inferences meet for discourse upon contingent occasions These were heedfully observed and carefully taken from the sacred mouth of the first Speaker King JAMES of famous memory accidentally falling long time since upon discourse and Table-talke at open meales in his Majesties royall presence or privy Chamber doubtlesse in the hearing and yet perfect remembrance of divers of his Majesties neere servitu●es and attendants yet living they were assiduously collected as well at his Majesties own standing houses as also in his forraigne progresse both in England and Scotland with the sundry times and places when where and upon what occasions or arguments they were uttered a Catalogue whereof I have presumed hereafter to insert for some peculiar use of these refractory times all which I may boldly affirme have been providently preserved and newly revised and published in times of distemper and distraction who knoweth otherwise then to make good and accomplish the ancient and moderne prophesies and predictions of those contingencies which have reference to the Royall Person of so incomparable a Soveraign whereof some have had their period already in and upon his Person living and now since his decease may from his Corps and Ashes reflect some analogy and resemblance as for example in that of Mother Shepton That England should tremble and quake for dread A dead man that should speake c. Before I dare not conclude or determine but then in fine I am assured when together with that royall sacred and divine Spirit of his soule and body re-unite each single person no lesse members as glorious Saints of God with Angels and Archangels shall in a joyfull and heavenly Quire with the Church Triumphant sing Gloria in excelsis c. for evermore Amen To wa●● the Vulgars Cataract and quit each single stake I 've 〈◊〉 the light growne dim by what a dead King spake Per me B. A. KING IAMES HIS APOPTHEGMES OR TABLE-TALKE 1. THAT it is a Maxime in the Romish Religion declared by most of their own Writers That the Pope may if he will at one Masse free all the soules out of Purgatory His Majesties inference on this Position was with abnegation of the Popes Charity and admiration of his unparalel'd cruelty that being granted to have power so to doe doth not nor may not apply his will unto it If it were possible for one man to free all the world from hell ought he not to doe it c. 2. That the wearing of Leeks on St. Davids day by the Welchmen was a good honourable and commendable fashion seeing that all memorable acts have by their Agents something worne for distinction and also to preserve the memory thereof unto posterity even as the Passeover was to the Jews that when their children should aske why they went girded with staves in their hands they might shew them the cause c. So the Welchmen in commemoration of the great fight by their black Prince of Wales doe weare Leeks as their chosen Ensigne c. 3. At Cambridge c. That an infallid thing may be discerned and knowne by a fallid meanes as for example our senses are fallid but by them wee know many things infallid c. whence the Papists inferre that because the Church is visible therefore the chiefe Head must be visible The Universall Church consisteth of two parts one visible the other invisible to wit a visible body and an invisible spirit and therefore the chiefe Head of the Church should rather be visible but we grant many visible substitutes over the Church as subordinate Rulers under the Chiefe c. 4. His Majestie observed a quaint Interrogatory put to a jealous Lover out of that famous Comedy of Ignoramus the which his Majestie highly commended viz. whether he desired most or rather to be termed Publius Cornolius or Cornelius Tacitus In further approbation of which Comedie beside in opposition and dislike of another Comedie performed and acted before his Majestie by the Schollers of the Universitie of Oxford that as in Cambridge one Sleepe made him Wake so in Oxford one Wake made him Sleepe 5. Doctor Baily holding conference with the King touching the Popes Arrogancy alluding to Christs Answer to his Apostles He that desires to beare rule let him be the least among you and therefore the Pope doth sometimes colourably terme himselfe Servus Servorum c. To which the King replies that by such Argument or inference he could prove the Pope to be humbly minded to which the Doctor answeswered that he did not alwayes so account himselfe save onely when he had purpose to delude or deceive otherwise he esteemed himselfe Dominus Dominantium c. His Maiesties determination on the Point was that the Popes calling himselfe Servus Servorum c. was rather in a more strict and peculiar sence as th●t he was Servus Petri c. sive Mariae Virgims c. and so by consequence Servus servorum Dei c. toward all other Dominus Dominantium c. So likewise to be a professed Catholike is to be a true Christian but to be a Romane Catholike is it which marreth the matter It was the reproofe of the Donatists which were accounted Catholiques but confined their profession into one corner of Affrica So also the Romanists whereas the true Catholique is universall 6. At Edenbrough in Scotland tertio dei Junii Anno Dom. 1617. That whereas our Saviour saith It is as easie for a Camell to passe through the eye of an needle as for a rich man to enter into the Kingdome of Heaven c.

it so doe the pleasures of the world delight the men of the world Thirdly It maketh men drunken and light in the head so doe the vanities of the world men are drunken therewith Fourthly He that taketh Tobacco saith he cannot leave it it doth bewitch him even so the pleasures of the world makes men loath to leave them they are for the most part so inchanted with them Besides the former allusion it is like hell in the very substance of it for it is a stinking loathsome thing so is hell it goeth in at the mouth and out at the nose so doth the smoke of hell through the body and head 11. That he hath heard an old Minister say touching conformity that it would be a scandall for himselfe to conforme yet will allow that his son may doe it as if he living a foole all his life desired so to die c. Nono die Januar. An. Dom. 1617. That the Puritan Ministers doe give growth unto the Papists and are a scandall to the true Protestant profession c. That on Christmas day last past there were Sermons preached in divers parts of Scotland viz. At Glas●oc Holyredoes and at Saint Andrewes and chose Texts concerning the Nativity of Christ which was more than had been done there long before That the Rector of Saint Andrewes after the Kings last being there said that in his Kirk he would constrain the Communicants to stand or kneele for hee would have but few at one time and where they received should be neither Stool nor Forme so that of necessity they should either stand or kneele That a Minister in Edenborough did baptize a Childe through favour to the Parents contrary to their Presbyterian Canons the which thing to doe none can be drawne unto by the Canons of the Church of England As for example whereas it is by their Lawes that no baptisme shall be administred but upon one certaine day and at a Sermon and in the Church and not elsewhere upon any occasion no not in case of necissity when the child is like to die without it this is their Law absolute there is no minister will be wrought by the King or Canons of the Church to do otherwise yet upon a time this Minister through favor of some perticuler parsons did goe to baptise a child that was sick upon another day without any Sermon and comming hastily to the Church and finding the doores shut did baptise the same child without the walls of the Church in the yard without any scruple of conscience and yet being induced thereunto by the King and Cannons of the Church of England he refused to do the like c. That some of the ministers of Scotland did confesse that they were in as great extreame on the one side as the Papists were on the other The like was observed for the Sacrament to the sick at home they refused in all cases of necessity yet it was once done through savour to one particular person in which case I confesse they did not amisse but very ill in refusing to do it by the Kings order That a certaine minister did refuse to do as the King bade him albeit it were a thing no way contrary to Gods command or word and said peremptorily if hee did it he was damned being demanded his reason thereof said I am Gods Ambassador and if I performe any thing but what he expressely commands by his word I am a Traytor and so consequently I am damned 12. Anno Dom. 1618. That no man can thrive that keepeth a whoore at rack and manger to wit openly with iustification c. That to rove is proper to expresse the action of the body but to rave is an action of the mind That miracles are now used and maintained among the Papists to the end to confirme a false beleef on Saints according as at first Christ used miracles to cause and confirme a true beleefe on himselfe Evanglikes are not all Evangelists c. That he is not of opinion that all specches in Scripture touching beasts or foules by allegory doth agree with the proper and Peculiar natures of them as of that Be Wise as Serpents c. or that comparison in Job to the Ostridge that seemeth to neglect her young by leaving her eggs in the dust c. which is not the proper nature of them as hath been approoved by Barbary marchants that have seen them but it seemeth so outwardly because she hideth her eggs in the sand and so removeth a little from them but surely for no other end but to protect them that at the time of need and in the hatching to break the shell which of it selfe cannot 13. Anno Dom. 1619. That there was never any noted Heretique but the Sect of him were much more hereticall That he could find more arguments in the papists works for the Pope then the Pope himselfe could doe c. That the Canonists are the very Divels of all the rest c That Peter seeing Malchus his Kinsman witnesse against him made him feare the more and so denyed his Master That if they had accused Christ of ryot the same witnesse would have proved matter to declare his Divinity in healing his eare againe To commit a sin against the letter of the law morall is greater then a sin against the consequent as for example adultery is a greater sin then fornication c. That he stiled a booke once sent him by the name of Melchisedecke being without beginning or ending c. That he readeth more Papists bookes then Protestant and from thence findeth matter to confirme him in the Protestant Religion That taking all things to the strait tenor of the written letter is the matter of jarre 'twixt Puritans and Us That Henry 4. of France would have sent Cardinall Peron to convert him the which he denyed for that he held him weake and shallow and refused to loose a heavenly crowne for an earthly c. That he would not admit a publike disputation between 12. Papists 12. Protestants himselfe being chosen Umpire because he might loose more that would not be satisfied then he could win although the Papists side were convicted That in 88. he almost converted a Papist untill he heard of the Spanish invasion 14. 4. Novemb. Anno Dom. 1620. At Theobalds c. Discourse concerning Alchymy The Alchymists from a true position doe produce a false assumption to maintaine their practise as for example every creature or thing hath a naturall inclination to the perfection of the same kind as poore silly wormes by change of climat may become Serpents and in all Minerals the perfection is gold so all inferiall Mettals have inclination to gold which is but as we say the quintessence fat or creame of other Mettals and not consisting in any veine of it selfe Now from this generall position the Alchymist with a certaine composition with other Mettals most having some gold in them doe thinke to ripen them

The Pope perverteth that saying for that none shall have no Pardons but such as pay for them so consequently the rich are more easie to enter into heaven then the poore because the one can have pardon when he will but the other is not able to purchase it and thereupon His Majestie concluded the Pope to be iustly called a Merchant of mens soules as it is set forth in the 18. of the Revelation c. 7. Concerning that saying That the gates of hell shall not prevaile c. that therefore their Church of Rome cannot fall because of the certainty of Gods promise to his Church which they falsely attribute unto themselves The question only remaines in the circumstance of time as betweene their Church and the true Church to wit whether it be already past or shall be hereafter for they deny not but there shall be a generall defection Antichrist shall be revealed c. but they deny it yet to be and we say it is already past and fulfilled in themselves but his Majesties absolute determination upon this point was the question between them and us to be the same which is yet between the Jewes Christians for they deny not but that a Messiah and Saviour must and shall come and yet have him in a dayly expectation but the Christian holdeth that he is come already hath bin in the world and hath performed all things preappointed of God his Eternall Father even such or the very like is the question between the Papists and Protestants concerning the right and true worship of that Messiah The Church Millitant his Majestie compared to the Moon so full of Changes his reason for this opinion he gave was for that he could not see a Church in any place peaceably setled but before he could duly consider thereof he forthwith perceived the face of it changed except it were those of Germany and the low Countries as the Lutherans and Calvinists c 8. At Edengbrough and Fawkeland and other places in the Kingdome of Scotland c. 23. Junii 1617. God is never better honored then in giving him true worship and in Loving good men The King at that time declared himself resolved alwayes to kneele at the Sacrament and that for to testifie his humility toward God being a King and the rather for example sake to others that are set under him he said he would not retaine willingly a gout in the knee alluding to Doctor Lawds Sermon a little before made upon that subiect His Majestie confessed the gout in the knee very troublesome offensive indeed and that by a particular experiment of his owne upon an accidentall hurt which he received on his foot at Newmarket being to receive the holy Communion on Christmasse day following and resolved to take the same kneeling as aforesaid provoked his whole body into a very great sweat and anguish and therefore concluded the gout in the knee to be a maine impediment for sacred duties and so conceived it the easier way to sit and then the mind might have the better opportunity to rove and wander after other prophane and wanton cogitations His Majestie did acknowledge that we could never doe too much worship toward God should we not said he exceed the Turkes who in their false worship doe fall often flat on their faces rise often in the night to performe false worship and this they are injoyned to doe or otherwise they account themselves damned he confessed too much worship might be rendred to our Lady and other Saints but doubtlesse never too much to God and Christ his anointed On the contrary his Majesties opinion concerning the essence of Gods deity and how some will seem to flatter him c. And thereupon commended a translation that was so direct as it described God as he was for he cannot bee flattered As for example God is said to be omnipotent it is true yet there are some things that he cannot have done as he would in respect of mans depraved nature Againe he made all things true all that we can behould but there was a place in which he was before he made the world Agayne it is said that he is every where true but as a King is by his Ambassadors not personally every where Againe it is further said that God is unchangeable yet it is also said many times that he repents and therfore though Kings may somtimes be flattered yet God never can c. That he did not know nor read of above three Iewes converted in 20. yeers c. That the Turk sent him Ambassage since his comming to England to follow the steps of Queene Elizabeth and not to professe Idolatrie for that would overthrow his Crowne c. That the Turks will not suffer the Iewes among them to sacrifice for that was flat against their Lawes As we will not suffer the Papists to worship the masse because against our Lawes c. That the Iewes had been so bitten with punishments for Idolalrie that they would never indure any shew of it That the Religion of the Turks was composed of the Iewish Religion of the Christian and of the Arrians and the pollicy thereof was to draw infinites of people to his subiection that were uncertainly affected as in the low Countries they use diversities of Religions to strengthen their power c. but this was observed by the King to be a strange pollicy That he confessed the Turk to be the greatest Prince in the world and yet that he did not commannd the tenth part of them which professed mahometisme c. That there was ten of his Religion to one that professed any kind of Christianity and therefore the Popes universality convinced That through the divers compositions of the Turks Religion a great part of the world was infected as both the Indies America Persia c. The King professed that he would choose rather to turn Turk then in some fables beleeve Bellarmine c. 9. Octavo die Julii Anno Domini 1617. At Fawkeland That a Germane was naturally the most constant to himselfe for although hee could well fashion himselfe to any Country that he travelled into yet returning home to his owne he would appeare to any mans iudgement nothing changed from the manner and condition of his own Nation and so in him is most truly fulfilled Coelum non ani●um mutant qui transmare currunt but with the English or any other Nation for the most part it is not so That he oft heard the Lord of Northampton say that a Frenchmun though never so grave and sober of countenance yet at one time or other would have his friske of vanity 10. That Tobacco was the lively image and patterne of hell for that by allusion it had in it all the parts and vices of the world whereby hell may be gained To wit first it was a smoake so are the vanities of the world a smoake and vapour Secondly it delighteth them who take