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A77380 Ioabs counsell and King Davids seasonable hearing it. Delivered in a sermon before the Honourable House of Commons, at their late solemne fast, Feb. 22. By W. Bridges, preacher of the Gospell at Dunstans in the East, London. Bridges, Walter.; Bridge, William, 1600?-1670, attributed name.; England and Wales. Parliament. aut 1643 (1643) Wing B4484A; Thomason E92_21; ESTC R1548 15,640 32

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bloud Royall besides an infinite number of the commonalty these are sad effects and yet it might be drawne lower yet but I forbeare Such a warre hath dolefull by-standers Doctr. 3 Such are either friends or enemies good or bad 1. The Churches friends as Ieremy in his Alphabeticall Lamentations send forth sad expressions of sorrow for it grieves them to see her in the dust these yeeld bindings (e) 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Nazi up to the sores they take words * Hosea 14.2 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Basil and goe to God pleading with him as if they meant to silence him yea make him blush and shame him these like the Jewes in their Feasts breake their Glasses as Ierusalem was broken and sowe (f) 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Nazian seede in the long furrowes which the ploughers made upon our back 2. But are they bad and our enemies now they rejoyce and cry downe with her even unto the ground Psal 137.7 Now they consult Exod. 1.10 Come let us walke and worke wisely Now they conspire Geball and Ammon and Amalek the Philistines and them of Tyre how they may take the house and the cause yea and Kingdome of God too into their possession Well then Use 1 if warre be such a cause of misery what is the cause of warre Resp 1. You must looke upwards and God sayes he is the cause So Ezek. 14.17 If I bring a sword c. it is Malum poenae therfore not brought amongst us unlesse he doe it Amos 3.6 and Esay 45.7 Warre is amongst the treasury of Gods Judgements in the Magazine of his instruments of vengeance The Church feeles Lam. 1.12 13 14. c. And where it is not so perceived they may feele the smarting of the wound but beleeve it hardly runne right to the cure The people sin and God makes the sinne of the King the sinne of the peoples punishment See an instance for this Hosea 5.13 14. Oh that England might never forget that 2 Sam. 24.1 The wrath of the Lord kindled against Israel and he moved David c. How shall we be perswaded Oh I thinke it is impossible impossible I say though not in it selfe yet at least by accident for we knocke at deafe mens doores our people are deceived and God hath said Let them alone Hearing they shal heare and not understand c. Esa 6.9 10. First Hypocrisie hath overcome us We are like those Micah 6.6 7 8 9 10. like them in the question we would seeme to aske not like them in the Answer for wee cannot heare the rod nor who hath appointed it and indeed it is because the treasures of wickednesse are in the house of the wicked no power no will to be reformed Alas the sinne and punishment are Nationall so must the amendment be It was the old rule (g) Si veniam reus speret petat cum lachrymis petat fletibus totius Ecclesiae Amb. de poeniten l. 1. c. 16. If the private man in case of publique sinne desire pardon let him aske it with his owne yea and the teares of the whole Church also Secondly Deceit hath overcome us 2 Thess 2.10 God hath given them up to beleeve a lye the Note upon that Text is (h) Infatuati seducemur seducti judical untur Aug. that being infatuate they shall be seduced and being seduced they shall be punished There is the fearefull malignant the wilfull malignant the ignorant malignant and every one of these covers himselfe under falsehood making a lye his refuge Esay 28.15 The Sanctuary these men have in these sad times is like the covering under Jonahs Gourd or Adams Figge-leaves Oh that they could know that first under God there is no hiding place for in the time of trouble he c. Psal 27.5 secondly that upon God who casts himselfe (i) Nulla vis nulla fraus nullae jam illecebrae poterunt vel stantem dejicere vel subjicere dominantem Bern. no force no fraud can reach him Thirdly Schisme and division hath overcome us Manasses against Ephraim and Ephraim against Manasses but what shall I say so it hath beene will be must be Christ foretold it and we have found it true which is said Matth. 10.34 35. But what is this Schisme I le give three rules in answer First (k) Quando doct●inae seu praecepta in consetentias hominum obtendentur quae non dubitative sed directe contra verbum Dei aut legem humanam c. When things are thrust upon the conscience which are not doubtfully but directly against the Word of God schisme in this case is not active but passive a due separation from the errour not the body for to that we are united by the Spirit and love so farre forth as it is united to the truth of Jesus Christ the head thereof Apply this rule to the present state of our times Schisina 1 activum 2 passivum and then tell me what is Schisme or what Rebellion Secondly Schisme or Division likewise is cadent First Upon bad men in whom it is either 1. Through too much faith or 2. Through too little Charity Secondly Upon good men in whom it is either 1. Through errour of Judgement 2. Or scruple of conscience Apply this also and you shall finde the rash and heady malignant so to be divided First he beleeves all every promise every protestation And secondly which is worse he would cut the throat of him that will not so doe too The ignorant and better malignant he is divided otherwise he hath a little * Non est conscientia quae obligat sed lex illa quam intellectui conscientia praesentat revera conscientia semper praesumer●● scientiam conscience and that scruples almost the very word King or Parliament he hath lesse judgement and that is the reason his conscience is no better informed 3 Rule is for the Judges of what is Trouble Schisme Division Rebellion c. where you have 1. The greater part these say Judicium 1. Majoris 2. Melioris partis Elias troubles Israel 1 King 18.18 and the Apostles the world 2. The better part and they can tell you that this must be retorted out of the same Text. We have all this while looked upwards to finde out a cause of warre amongst us Now downewards and there we shall finde our sinne the cause of this so sad an effect Nihil in poenaquod non prius erat in pecate and there we will put a parallel betweene Davids time and ours in point of sorrow-bringing sinnes thus 1. Davids indulgence Is Absolom such a man a proper man a goodly head of haire but not a dram of grace no * Psal 45.13 14. inward beauty at all and yet the King cannot pull his heart from him although in the danger of the losse of a Kingdome 2. This Absolom hath a party and that in Israel too that will venture their lives in such a desperate