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A63855 The full narrative and further discovery of Edward Tvrbervill of Skerr in the county of Glamorgan, Gent. of the horrid Popish Plot containing many remarkable passages concerning the trial of William late Viscount Stafford : with an account of the Gent. of Greys-Inn, who appeared in court before the Lord High Steward to invalidate Mr. Turbervill's evidence. Turberville, Edward, 1648?-1681. 1681 (1681) Wing T3251A; ESTC R6968 9,814 20

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done he again repeated to me the great Advantages that would accrue both to my self and the whole Catholick Cause if I stood firm and prosper'd in what I was to undertake and then told me in direct Terms That I might make my self and the Nation happy by taking away the Life of the King of England who was a Heretick and consequently a Rebel to God Almighty This being a Proposal very surprizing I desir'd his Lordship to allow me some short time to consider of it and promis'd withall to give him my answer at Diepe where his Lordship at that time had signify'd his intentions to me to embarque for England Accordingly I went before to the place appointed but my Lord altering his Journey went with Count Grammont to Calais and from thence sent word to me expecting him at Diepe to make haste for England and to attend him at London But then growing sensible of the Impiety of the Proposal made me and well knowing that my answer would be nothing satisfactory to his Lordship I resolv'd to go for England and so to avoid all farther Importunities from his Lordship by receiving any farther Obligations from Him I enter'd into the French Service and had the Honour to be admitted into the Duke of Monmouth's Regiment by a particular Recommendation from his Grace at the humble Request of my Worthy Friend Sir Ed. Stradling Having spent some time in the French Army I return'd for England and by the Kind favour of Philip Hoby Esq continu'd with him at his house at Neath Abby in the County of Glamorgan till the late Levies of Souldiers for Flanders at which time I made haste away for London and understanding the Lord Powis was not a little in the favour of his Royal Highness the Duke of York I made my addresses to his Lordship to recommend me to the Duke for an Employment giving his Lordship an accompt of my Condition and desiring him to believe That though I could not conform to a Religious Life yet I made no question but by my Services in the Field I should retreive the good will of his Lordship and the rest of my Friends and Relations His Lordship with a seeming Compassion made answer That I ought in the first place to implore the Heavenly Assistance and that in order thereunto I should go and make my Confession to the Earl of Castlemaine who was then in my Lords Chamber ready to say Mass Accordingly I went and made my Confession in obedience to his Lordships Directions But notwithstanding my compliance in Spirituals I was altogether neglected as to those Temporal Favors which I daily sought by his Lordships means For which as I have just cause to suspect I have great Reason to thank his Countess who is so much a Romanist as never to trust a Person whom she has once injur'd Thus finding the Professors of the Romish Religion so full of Treachery Malice Hypocrisie and Revenge I absolutely renounc'd all future hopes and dependencies upon it and seriously resolv'd sincerely and heartily to conform to the Discipline of the Church of England And I hope there is no true Protestant will have the worse opinion of Me for listening to the Voice of Conscience and choosing to follow the Light of Truth because I was once a wanderer in the By-wayes of Popish Darkness 'T is not to be thought but that I must expect to be prosecuted and pursu'd by the Malice of their Tongues For indeed it was a main endeavour of my former Friends and still unkind Relations because I could not confine my self to one of their Cloysters by exposing me to hardship and necessity to precipitate me into evil Courses that so I might become obnoxious to their Fury But as I am one that know they can fix nothing upon me for Truth so I value not their Scandals or Reproaches from which I make no Question but to clear my self when ever there shall be occasion At the time of the Tryal of William Viscount Stafford when I was to give my Evidence I was not a little concern'd at first not doubting but that all the Opposition in the World would be made against me and that all the Scandals and Reproaches would be thrown upon me that all the Craft of Papistical Equivocations could fix upon my shoulders But on the other side I was not a little encourag'd when I saw who the persons were that after so long a preparation were brought to make their appearance against me The first was the Lord Powis's Butler whose particular interest and dependance I leave to publick Censure The second a Gentleman of Grey's-Inn who has often declar'd to the World his calamitous Condition that he was so Pocky and so poor that he was weary of his life and for that reason provok'd several people to cut his Throat to the end he might be quit of his misery but by the charity of a Gentleman who is Physitian to the Lords in the Tower he was patch'd up and supported till he was call'd to the Barr by the credit whereof he marry'd a Wife with a small Fortune which is now almost spent Now I leave it to all the World to judge what such a man unprincipl'd would not do to gratifie a Person that had preserv'd him from Starving and to ingratiate himself with a Party which he thought would be prevalent and from which no doubt he had very large Promises according to the usual custome of those People My Brother appear'd next who declar'd that my Elder Brother gave me Seven pounds never to see me more which Money he said I received after I went from Doway though in truth I never did A very kind Brother to give and certainly a very much injur'd Brother to be satisfy'd with such a small pittance of his future Expectations for the continuance of such a Mortal Separation But 't is no wonder since the Difference in Religion engages Brother against Brother that they who could prevail with my Elder Brother to dis-inherit me could prevail with a Younger Brother to play the Fool in publick by appearing against me to so little purpose However I believe he was deluded to it and so I pardon him The last that appear'd against me was my Lord Castlemaine's Steward which was more then his Lord himself could do and therefore a testimony of little value He pretended That for Three Years he had not bin half a Week out of my Lord's Company though upon examination it was found that he had mistaken Fifteen Months in his accompt From all which we may make this Judgment What a sort of People we have to deal with and what difficulties we labour under that we are not only requir'd to give in Evidence upon Oath but must be forc'd to prove by collateral Testimonies of our Lives and Conversations that Truth is Truth and that our Evidence must be cavill'd at by those that bring such poor and pitiful Sons of reproach to confront us Hoewever it was my happiness that my Circumstances were attested by several Persons of great Estates and unquestionable Reputation FINIS
very great Disorder Upon which I ran away to my Chamber and lock'd my self in not without some bodily fear of what might have bin the reward of my pretended Mistake had I staid But soon after the Father or Master of the Novitiates came to my Chamber and bid me not be surpriz'd at the sight of such a severe Penance as being the effect of an extraordinary zeal to subjugate and mortifie our Sins of the Flesh Which would have bin a very sowr piece of Mortification indeed had the punishment bin as terrible as they made the World believe by the terrible visage of their Instruments of Execution Believing therefore that neither Hypocrisie nor Nastiness were any Signs or Marks of True Religion I resol'vd to make my Escape from those Dens of Lice and Dissimulation which I did soon after though not without great difficulty For whether they suspected my Intentions or no I cannot tell but this I am sure of that some few dayes before I got loose one Father Cudworth Guardian of the Monasterie told me That if I did not continue with them I should lose both my Life and my Friends Adding farther That the King meaning his Majestie should not last long and that his Successor should be wholly for their purpose And after my escape meeting with Father Cross the Provincial of the said Monks he told me That had he bin at Doway when I made my escape I should never have come into England again With such a mortal hatred they pursue all those that have had the Opportunity to have any knowledg of their vain and abominable Superstitions Upon my Return into England I found my Entertainment very cold For the Earl of Powis and his Lady together with all the rest who had encourag'd me to betake my self to a Monastic Life were become my utter Enemies threatning to take away my Life or at least to get my Brother to dis-inherit me Which vast piece of their Malice and Revenge they easily wrought upon my Brother to accomplish Being thus left Friendless and destitute in England I went over to Paris where I had another Brother that was a Benedictine Monk in that City At Paris I staid a considerable time and during my Residence there came acquainted with one Father Clifford who told me among other things relating to this Kingdom That the Lord Stafford was a Person of that undoubted and extraordinary Zeal that he would run the utmost hazards for the benefit and advantage of the Church of Rome further saying That there were a great many devout and zealous people in Staffordshire that were Persons of Discretion and such as were fit to be entrusted in the management of any Affair that tended to the Support of the Roman Catholic Faith Another time one Latham a Priest and Benedictine Monk being upon his departure with Cardinal Howard for Rome with great Confidence told me That though the Retinue of the Cardinal were at that time but ordinary and slender yet he did not doubt to see his Eminency return into England with a Splendor befitting his degree and dignify'd with the highest Characters that the Pope could bestow upon him And that for his part though he had been proffer'd to be made Prior of the Benedictines at Paris he had refus'd it rather choosing to follow the Cardinal's Fortunes and to depend upon the Hopes of that preferment which he was well assur'd he should obtain by the means and favour of the Cardinal And indeed it was the general discourse among the Monks at Paris especially the English who should be an Abbot and who a Prior upon the suddain Restoration of the Catholic Religion in England More then that an Eminent Monk of the great Abby of St. Germains declar'd in public That the English were a very unhappy Nation that had not a Man who had the Courage to Restore Religion by taking away the Life of one Single Person And that the World may be sensible that there was no Degree in the Church of Rome that did not concern it self in the Grand Design a Father of the Carthusians told me That were he not oblig'd by the Vow of his Order never to stirr from his Convent He himself although he were not of the English Nation would be the person that would undertake the Work for the General Good of the Universal Church of God One Mr. Rivers also a Gentleman well known to many of this Nation advis'd me to get the Recommendations of the Prior of the Benedictines at Paris and of the Lord Thomas Somerset who was a Canon of St. Peters in Rome then at Paris with what other Recommendations I could get and to hasten to Rome by which means there was no question but I might get to be admitted into Cardinal Howard's Family who would shortly be in great Authority in England adding further That had he not engag'd himself to be Tutor to Sir Charles Shellies Children with whom he was then going for La Fleche he would take the same course as he had propos'd to my self For that upon the Restoration of Religion they who had taken the most pains would be the best provided for But these Arguments not prevailing I was by my Brother perswaded to return into England and in order to that Journey by my said Brother and the said Prior of the Benedictines recommended to the acquaintance of the Lord Stafford then at Paris by whom about the latter end of Novemb. 1675. I was readily entertain'd and being look'd upon as a Gentleman had the Honor of a Frequent and Free access to his Lordship During my Attendance upon my Lord which was about three Weeks his Lordship having as I am apt to believe receiv'd some private Intimations from the Prior and my Brother began very gradually with me telling me in the first place That being a Gentleman who had bin bred up to no Calling and was now deserted by my Friends and Relations I must inevitably fall into such ill Courses as would bring me to some unhappy end For the preventing whereof it would be better for me to undertake an Action wherein if I succeeded it would make me happy in this World or if I miscarry'd would procure me an everlasting Crown in Heaven Having thus rais'd my Expectations at another time he added That he had a piece of Service to propose to me that would not only restore me to the good Opinion of my own Relations but for ever oblige both them and their Posterity As I was willing to embrace all Opportunities to advance my own Fortunes so it may be certainly thought that I was no less inquisitive what piece of Service it was that was expected from me But my Lord Stafford being unwilling presently to commit so great a discovery to my knowledg would by no means open his Mind to me but exacted from me all the Imaginable Obligations to Secresie which I gave his Lordship in the most solemn manner he could possibly invent Which being