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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A68619	The arte of English poesie Contriued into three bookes: the first of poets and poesie, the second of proportion, the third of ornament.	Puttenham, George, d. 1590.; Puttenham, Richard, 1520?-1601?, attributed name.; Lumley, John Lumley, Baron, 1534?-1609, attributed name.	1589 (1589)	STC 20519.5; ESTC S110571	205,111	267

them but as our ordinary talke then which nothing can be more vnsauourie and farre from all ciuilitie I remember in the first yeare of Queenes Maries raigne a Knight of Yorkshire was chosen speaker of the Parliament a good gentleman and wise in the affaires of his shire and not vnlearned in the lawes of the Realme but as well for some lack of his teeth as for want of language nothing thing well spoken which at that time and businesse was most behooffull for him to haue bene this man after he had made his Oration to the Queene which ye know is of course to be done at the first assembly of both houses a bencher of the Temple both well learned and very eloquent returning from the Parliament house asked another gentleman his frend how he liked M. Speakers Oration mary quoth th' other me thinks I heard not a better alehouse tale told this seuen yeares This happened because the good old Knight made no difference betweene an Oration or publike speach to be deliuered to th' eare of a Princes Maiestie and state of a Realme then he would haue done of an ordinary tale to be told at his table in the countrey wherein all men know the oddes is very great And though graue and wise counsellours in their consultations doe not vse much superfluous eloquence and also in their iudiciall hearings do much mislike all scholasticall rhetoricks yet in such a case as it may be and as this Parliament was if the Lord Chancelour of England or Archbishop of Canterbury himselfe were to speake he ought to doe it cunningly and eloquently which can not be without the vse of figures and neuerthelesse none impeachment or blemish to the grauitie of their persons or of the cause wherein I report me to thē that knew Sir Nicholas Bacon Lord keeper of the great Seale or the now Lord Treasorer of England and haue bene conuersant with their speaches made in the Parliament house Starrechamber From whose lippes I haue seene to proceede more graue and naturall eloquence then from all the Oratours of Oxford or Cambridge but all is as it is handled and maketh no matter whether the same eloquence be naturall to them or artificiall though I thinke rather naturall yet were they knowen to be learned and not vnskilfull of th' arte when they were yonger men and as learning and arte teacheth a schollar to speake so doth it also teach a counsellour and aswell an old man as a yong and a man in authoritie aswell as a priuate person and a pleader aswell as a preacher euery man after his sort and calling as best becommeth and that speach which becommeth one doth not become another for maners of speaches some serue to work in excesse some in mediocritie some to graue purposes some to light some to be short and brief some to be long some to stirre vp affections some to pacifie and appease them and these common despisers of good vtterance which resteth altogether in figuratiue speaches being well vsed whether it come by nature or by arte or by exercise they be but certaine grosse ignorance of whom it is truly spoken scientia non habet inimicum nisi ignorantem I haue come to the Lord Keeper Sir Nicholas Bacon found him sitting in his gallery alone with the works of Quintilian before him in deede he was a most eloquent man and of rare learning and wisedome as euer I knew England to breed and one that ioyed as much in learned men and men of good witts A Knight of the Queenes priuie chamber once intreated a noble woman of the Court being in great fauour about her Maiestie to th' intent to remoue her from a certaine displeasure which by sinister opinion she had conceiued against a gentleman his friend that it would please her to heare him speake in his own cause not to cōdēne him vpon his aduersaries report God forbid said she he is to wise for me to talke with let him goe and satisfie such a man naming him why quoth the Knight againe had your Ladyship rather heare a man talke like a foole or like a wise man This was because the Lady was a litle peruerse and not disposed to reforme her selfe by hearing reason which none other can so well beate into the ignorant head as the well spoken and eloquent man And because I am so farre waded into this discourse of eloquence and figuratiue speaches I will tell you what hapned on a time my selfe being present when certaine Doctours of the ciuil law were heard in a litigious cause betwixt a man and his wife before a great Magistrat who as they can tell that knew him was a man very well learned and graue but somewhat sowre and of no plausible vtterance the gentlemans chaunce was to say my Lord the simple woman is not so much to blame as her lewde abbettours who by violent perswasions haue lead her into this wilfulnesse Quoth the iudge what neede such eloquent termes in this place the gentleman replied doth your Lordship mislike the terme violent me thinkes I speake it to great purpose for I am sure she would neuer haue done it but by force of perswasion if perswasiōs were not very violent to the minde of man it could not haue wrought so stāge an effect as we read that it did once in Aegypt would haue told the whole tale at large if the Magistrate had not passed it ouer very pleasantly Now to tell you the whole matter as the gentlemā intēded thus it was There came into Aegypt a notable Oratour whose name was Hegesias who inueyed so much against the incōmodities of this transitory life so highly commended death the dispatcher of all euils as a great number of his hearers destroyed themselues some with weapō some with poyson others by drowning and hanging themselues to be rid out of this vale of misery in so much as it was feared least many moe of the people would haue miscaried by occasion of his perswasions if king Ptolome had not made a publicke proclamation that the Oratour should auoyde the countrey and no more be allowed to speake in any matter Whether now perswasions may not be said violent and forcible to simple myndes in speciall I referre it to all mens iudgements that heare the story At least waies I finde this opinion confirmed by a pretie deuise or embleme that Lucianus alleageth he saw in the pourtrait of Hercules within the Citie of Marseills in Prouence where they had figured a lustie old man with a long chayne tyed by one end at his tong by the other end at the peoples eares who stood a farre of and seemed to be drawen to him by the force of that chayne fastned to his tong as who would say by force of his perswasions And to shew more plainly that eloquence is of great force and not as many men thinke amisse the propertie and gift of yong men onely but rather of old