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A05353 A treatise concerning the defence of the honour of the right high, mightie and noble Princesse, Marie Queene of Scotland, and Douager of France with a declaration, as wel of her right, title, and interest, to the succession of the croune of England: as that the regiment of women is conformable to the lawe of God and nature. Made by Morgan Philippes, Bachelar of Diuinitie, An. 1570.; Defence of the honour of the right highe, mightye and noble Princesse Marie Quene of Scotlande and dowager of France Leslie, John, 1527-1596. 1571 (1571) STC 15506; ESTC S106704 132,510 314

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and intent of the said law Now in case these two causes and cōsiderations wil not satisfie th Aduersarie we wil adioine therevnto a third which he shal neuer by any good and honest shift auoid And that is the vse and practise of the Realme as wel in the time foregoing the said statute as afterward We stand vpon the interpretation of the cōmon law recited and declared by the said statute And how shal we better vnderstand what the law is therein then by the vse and practise of the said lawe For the best interpretation of the lawe is custome But the Realme before the statute admitted to the Croune not only kings children and others of the first degre but also of a farther degre and such as were plainely borne out of the Kings allegeance The soresaid vse and practise appeareth as wel before as sithens the time of the Conquest Among other King Edward the Confessour being destitute of a lawful Heire within the Realme sent into Hūgary for Edward his Nephew surnamed Outlaw son to King Edmūd called Irōside after many yeres of his exile to returne into Englād to th' intent the said Outlaw should inherite this Realme whiche neuerthelesse came not to effect by reason the said outlaw died before the said king Edward his Vncle. After whose death the said king apointed Eadgar Etheling sonne of the said Outlaw being his next cosen and heire as he was of right to the Croune of Englād And for that the said Eadgar was but of yong and tender yeares and not able to take vpō him so great a gouernement the said king cōmitted the protection as wel of the yong Prince as also of the Realm to Harold Earle of Kent vntil suche time as the said Eadgar had obteined perfit age to be hable to weld the state of a King Which Harold neuerthelesse cōtrary to the trust supplanted the said yong Prince of the Kingdome and put the Croune vpon his own head By this it is apparent that foraine birth was not accōpted of before the time of the Cōquest a iust cause to repel and reiect any man being of the next proximitie in blood frō the Title of the Croune And though the said king Edward the Cōfessors wil and purpose toke no such force and effect as he desired and the law craued yet the like succession toke place effectuously in king Stephen and king Hēry the secōd as we haue already declared Neither wil th' Aduersaries shift of foramers borne of father and mother which be not of the kings alegeāce help him forasmuch as this clause of the said statut is not to be applied to the kings childrē but to others as appeareth in the same statute And these two kings Stephē and Henrie the 2. as they were borne in a forain place so their fathers and mothers wer not of the kings allegeāce but mere Aliens and strāgers And how notorious a vaine thing is it that th' Aduersarie would perswade vs that the said K. Henrie the secōd rather came in by force of a cōposition then by the proximitie and nearenes of blood I leaue it to euery man to cōsider that hath any maner of feling in the discours of the stories of this realm The cōpositiō did procure him quietnes and rest for the time with a good and sure hope of quiet and peaceable entrance also after the death of King Stephen and so it followed in deede but ther grew to him nomore right therby then was due to him before For he was the true heir to the Croune as appeareth by Stephen his Aduersaries owne confession Henry the firste maried his daughter Mathildis to Henry the Emperour by whome he had no childrē And no dout in case she had had any children by th'Emperour they should haue ben heires by succession to the Croune of England After whose death she retourned to her father yet did King Henry cause all the Nobilitie by an expresse othe to embrace her after his death as Queene and after her her children Not long after she was maried to Ieffrey Plantagenet a Frenchman borne Earle of Aniowe who begat of her this Henry the second being in France Whervpon the said King did reuiue and renue the like othe of allegeāce aswel to her as to her sonne after her With the like false persuasiō the Adueruersarie abuseth him selfe and his Reader touching Arthur Duke of Britanie Nephew to King Richard the first As though forsooth he were iustly excluded by Kinge Iohn his vncle by cause he was a forainer borne If he had said that he was excluded by reason the vncle ought to be preferred before the Nephewe though it should haue ben a false allegation and plaine against the rules of the lawes of this Realme as may wel appeare among other thinges by King Richard the second who succeded his grādfather king Edward the third which Richard had diuerse worthie and noble vncles who neither for lacke of knowledge coulde be ignorant of the right neither for lacke of frendes courage and power be enforced to forbeare to chalenge their title and interest yet should he haue had some countenance of reason and probabilitie bicause many arguments and the authoritie of many learned and notable Ciuilians doo concurre for the vncles right before the Nephewe But to make the place of the natiuitie of an inheritour to a kingdom a sufficiēt barre against the right of his blood it seemeth to haue but a weake and slender holde and grounde And in our case it is a most vnsure and false ground seeing it is moste true that King Richard the first as we haue said declared the said Arthur borne in Britanie and not son of a King but his brother Geffreys sonne Duke of Britanie heire apparent his vncle Iohn yet liuing And for such a one is he taken in al our stories And for such a one did all the worlde take him after the said King Richard his death neither was King Iohn taken for other then for an vsurper by excluding him and afterward for a murtherer for imprisoning him and priuily making him away For the which facte the French King seased vpon al the goodly Coūtries in France belonging to the King of England as forfeited to him being the chiefe Lorde By this outragious deede of King Iohn we lost Normandie withall and our possibilitie to the inheritance of all Britanie the right and Title to the said Britanie being dewe to the said Arthur and his heires by the right of his mother Constance And though the said king Iohn by the practise and ambition of Quene Elenour his mother and by the special procurement of Huberte then Archebishop of Caunterburie and of some other factious persons in Englād preuēted the said Arthur his nephew as it was easy for him to do hauing gotten into his handes al his brother Richardes treasure by sides many other rentes then in England and the said Arthur being an infante
and remaining beyond the sea in the custody of the said Constance yet of this fact being against al Iustice aswel the said Archbishop as also many of th' other did after most earnestly repent considering the cruel and the vniust putting to death of the said Arthur procured and after some Authours committed by the said Iohn himself Which most foul ād shamful act the said Iohn neded not to haue committed if by foraine birth the said Arthur had bē barred to inherit the Croune of England And much lesse to haue imprisoned that most innocent Ladie Elenor sister to the said Arthur in Bristow Castle wher she miserably ended her life if that gay Maxime would haue serued to haue excluded these two childrē bicause thei wer strāgers borne in the partes beyond the seas Yea it appeareth in other doings also of the said time and by the storie of the said Iohn that the birth out of the legeāce of England by father ād mother foram was not takē for a sufficiēt repulse and reiectiō to the right and title of the Croune For the Barōs of Englād being then at dissension with the said King Iohn and renoūcing their allegeance to him receaued Lewis the eldest sonne of Philip the Frēch king to be their King in the right of Blanch his wife whiche was a stranger borne albe it the lawful Neece of the said Richard and daughter to Alphonse king of Ca●til begotten on the bodie of Elenour his wife one of the daughters of king Henrie the second and sister to the said king Richard and king Iohn Which storie I alleage only to this purpose thereby to gather the opinion of the time that foraine birth was then thought no barre in the Title of the Croune For otherwise how could Lewis of Frāce pretēd title to the Croune in the right of the said Bblach his wife borne in Spaine These examples are sufficient I suppose to satisfie and content any man that is not obstinatly wedded to his own fond fantasies and froward friuolous imaginatiōs or otherwise worse depraued for a good sure and substantial interpretation of the cōmon law And it were not altogether from the purpose here to consider and weigh with what and how greuous plagues this Realme hath bene oft afflicted and scourged by reason of wrongful and vsurped titles I wil not reuiue by odious rehearsal the greatenes and number of the same plagues as wel otherwise as especially by the contention of the noble houses and families of York and Lancaster seeing it is so fortunately and almost within mans remēbrance extinct and buried I wil now put the gentle Reader in remembrance of those only with whose vsurping Titles we are nowe presently in hand And to begyn with the most aunciēt what became I pray you of Harold that by briberie and helpe of his kinred vsurped the Croune against the foresaid yong Eadgar who as I haue said and as the old monumēts of our Historiographers do plainly testifie was the true and lawful Heire Could he thinke you enioy his ambitious and naughty vsurping one whole entier yere No surely ere the first yeare of his vsurped reigne turned about he was spoiled and turned out both of Croune and his life withal Yea his vsurpation occasioned the conquest of the whole realme by Williā Duke of Normādie bastard sonne to Robert the sixt Duke of the same And may we thinke al safe and sound now from like danger if we should tread the said wrong steppes with Harolde forsaking the right and high way of law and iustice What shal I now speake of the cruel ciuil warres betwene King Stephen and King Henry the second whiche warres rose by reason of the said Henry was vniustly kept frō the Croune dew to his mother Maude and to him afterwardes The pitiful reigne of the said Iohn who doth not lament with the lamentable losse of Normandie Aquitaine and the possibilitie of the Dukedome of Britanie and with the losse of our other goodly possessions in France whereof the Croune of England was robbed and spoiled by the vnlawful vsurping of him against his nephew Arthur Wel let vs leaue these greuouse and lothsome remembrances and let vs yet seeke if we may finde any later interpretation either of the said statute or rather of the cōmon law for our purpose And lo the great goodnes and prouidence of God who hath if the foresaid exāples would not serue prouided a later but so good so sure so apt and mete interpretatiō for our cause as any reasonable hart may desire The interpretatiō directly toucheth our case which I meane by the mariage of the Lady Margaret eldest daughter to King Hēry the vij vnto Iames the fourth Kīg of Scotlād and by the opiniō of the said most prudēt Prince in bestowing his said daughter into Scotlād a ma ter sufficient inough to ouerthrow al those cauilling inuētiōs of the aduersarie For what time King Iames the fourth sent his ambassadour to king Hēry the seuēth to obteine his good wil to espouse the said Lady Margaret there were of his Counsaile not ignorant of the lawes and Customes of the Realme that did not wel like vpon the said Mariage saying it might so fal out that the right and Title of the Croune might be deuolued to the Lady Margaret and her childrē and the Realm therby might be subiect to Scotlād To the whiche the prudent and wise King answered that in case any such deuolution should happen it would be nothing preiudicial to England For England as the chief and principal and worthiest part of the I le should drawe Scotland to it as it did Normandie from the time of the Conqueste Which answere was wonderfully wel liked of al the Counsaile And so consequ●tly the mariage toke effect as appereth by Polydor the Historiographer of this Realm and such a one as wrote the Actes of the time by the instruction of the King him selfe I say then the worthy wise Salomon foreseeing that such deuolution might happen was an interpretour with his prudente and sage Counsaile for our cause For els they neaded not to reason of any such subiection to Scotlande if the children of the Ladie Margaret might not lawfully inherite the Croune of England For as to her husband we could not be subiect hauing him selfe no right by this mariage to the Title of the Croune of this Realme Wherevpon I may wel inferre that the said newe Maxime of these men whereby they would rule and ouer rule the succession of Princes was not knowen to the said wise King neither to any of his Counsaile Or if it were yet was it taken not to reache to his blood royall borne in Scotlande And so on euery side the Title of Quene Marie is assured So that now by this that we haue said it may easely be seen by what light and slender consideration the Aduersarie hath gone about to strayne the wordes Infantes or children to the first degree
only Of the like weight is his other cōsideration imaginīg and surmising this statute to be made bicause the King had so many occasiōs to be so oft ouer the sea with his spouse the Queene As though diuers Kings before him vsed not often to passe ouer the seas As though this were a personal statute made of special purpose and not to be takē as a declaratiō of the cōmon law Which to say is most directly repugnant and contrary to the letter of the said statute Or as though his children also did not very often repaire to outward Countries as Iohn of Gaunt Duke of Lancaster that maried Peters the King of Castiles eldest daughter by whose right he claimed the Croune of Castile as his brother Edmūd Erle of Cambridge that maried the yongest daughter as Lionell Duke of Claraunce that maried at Milaine Violāt daughter and heir to Galeatius Duke of Milan But especially Prince Edwarde whiche moste victoriously toke in battaile Iohn the French King and brought him into England his prisoner to the great triumphe and reioysing of the Realme whose eldest sonne Edward that died in short time after was borne beyond the seas in Gascome and his other sonne Richard that succeded his grandfather was borne at Burdeaux as these noble King Edwardes sonnes maried with forainers so did they geue out their daughters in mariage to foraine Princes as the Duke of Lancaster his daughter Philippe to the king of Portingale and his daughter Catherin to the King of Spaine and his Neece Iohan daughter to his sonne Earle of Somerset was ioyned in mariage to the King of Scottes Iohan daughter to his brother Thomas of Wodstocke Duke of Gloucester was Queene of Spaine and his other daughter Marie Duchesse of Britannie Now by this mans interpretation none of the issue of al these noble Women could haue enioyed the Croune of England when it had fallen to them though they had bene of the neerest roial blood after the death of their Auncestours Which surely had bene against the auncient presidentes and examples that we haue declared and against the common Lawe the whiche muste not be thought by this Statute any thing taken away but only declared and against al good reason also For as we would haue thought this Realme greatly iniured if it had ben defrauded of Spaine or any of the foresaid coūtreies being deuolued to the same by the foresaid Mariages as we thincke our self at this day iniured for the withholding of France so the issue of the foresaide noble womē might and would haue thought them hardly and iniuriously handled yf any such case had happened Neither suche friuolous interpretation and gloses as this man nowe frameth and maketh vppon the statute woulde then haue serued nor nowe wil serue But of all other his friuolous and folish ghessing vpon the clause of the statute for Infantes de Roy there is one most fond of al. For he would make vs beleue such is the mans skil that this statute touching Infantes de Roy was made for the great doubte more in them then in other personnes touching their inheritance to their Auncestours For being then a Maxime saieth he in the lawe that none could inherite to his Auncestours being not of father and mother vnder the obedience of the King seing the King him selfe could not be vnder obedience it plainely seemed that the Kinges children were of farre worse condition then others and quite excluded And therefore he saith that this statute was not to geue them any other priuilege but to make them equall with other And that therefore this statute touching the Kinges children is rather in the superficial parte of the worde then in effecte Nowe among other thinges he saieth as we haue shewed before that this word Infantes de Roy in this statute mentioned must be taken for the children of the first degree whiche he seemeth to proue by a note taken out of M. Rastal But to this we answer that this mā swetely dreamed when he imagined this fonde and fantasticall exposition And that he shewed him selfe a very infante in law and reason For this was no Maxime or at lest not so certaine before the making of this statute whiche geueth no new right to the Kinges children nor answereth any doubt touching them and their inheritance but saith that the law of the Croune of England is and alwaies hath bene which lawe saith the King say the Lordes say the Commons we allowe and affirme for euer that the Kinges children shal be hable to inherite the Landes of their Auncesters where●oeuer they be borne Al the doubt was for other persons as appeareth euidētly by the tenour of the statute whether by the cōmon law they being borne out of the allegeance were heritable to their Auncestours And it appeareth that th' Aduersary is driuē to the hard wal when he is faine to catch hold vpon a selie poore marginal note of M. Rastal of the Kinges childrē and not of the Kings childrens children Which yet nothing at al serueth his purpose touching this statute But he or the Printer or who so euer he be as he draweth out of the text many other notes of the matter therin cōprised so vpō these Frēch wordes Les enfants de Roy he noteth in the Margēt The Kings childrē but how far that word reacheth he saieth neither more nor lesse Neither it is any thing preiudicial to the said Queenes right or Title whether the said wordes Infants ought to be takē strictly for the first degree or farther enlarged For if this statute toucheth only the succession of the Kings children to their Auncestours for other inheritāce and not for the Cround as most men take it and as it may be as we haue said very wel takē and allowed then doth this supposed Maxime of forain borne that seemeth to be gathered out of this statute nothing anoy or hinder the Queene of Scotlandes Title to the Croune as not therto apperteining On the other side if by the inheritance of the kings childrē the Croune also is meant yet neither may we enforce the rule of foraine borne vpō the kings children which are by the●presse wordes of the statute excepted neither enforce the word In●●●s to the first degree only for such reasons presidents and examples and other prouffes largely by vs before set forth to the cōtrarie seing that the right of the Croune falling vpō them they may wel be called the kings Childrē or at the lest the childrē of the Croune Ther is also one other cause why though this statute reach to the Croune and may and ought to be expoūded of the same the said Queene is out of the reach and cōpasse of the said statute For the said statute can not be vnderstanded of any persons borne in Scotlande or Wales but onely of persons borne beyond the sea out of the allegeance of the King of England that is to wrtte France Flandres and such like For England
burge who therby inioyed the Countie P●latine The like may be said of diuers oth● partes of the Germanical Empire yea a w● mā hath ruled and gouerned the said who Empire as it is euident in Agnes the wi● of the Emperour Henry the third duri● the time of the minoritie of her sonne H●rie the fourth And yet the same Empire ye wote wel passeth by choise and election and not by lineal succession of bloode ye● many hundereth yeares ere she was borne and in the florishing time of the olde Ro●maine Empire Mesa Varia grandmother to the Emperour Heliogabalus and Alexander Seuerus sate with the Senate at Rome heard and examined the weighty causes o● the Empire and set her hand also to suche thīgs as passed touchīg the publike affaires I do now adioyne the kingdom of Sicile and Naples in Italie of the whiche Italie Noah whom the prophane Writers cal Ianus made Crana his daughter ruler and Quene wher also Lauinia reigned after the death of Aeneas And as for Naples this presidēt of womanly Gouernment is not there only of later yeares in both the Queenes called Iohanne but euen from very auncient time which thing the stories do recorde in Amalasintha that gouerned after the death of her father King Theodoricus with her sonne Athalaricus The said Amalasintha was mother to Almaricus King of Spaine and after his death ruled her self the said Realme Let vs nowe adde farther the Dukedoms of Loraine and Mantua the kingdome of Swetia and Dania and of Noruegia whereof Margaret the daughter of Waldemarus was gouernesse and Quene the kingdom of Beame and of Hūgarie And to draw nere home the Realm also of Scotlād which realm hath denomination of a woman as their stories report as hath likewise Flaunders The like some of our stories report of Englād wherin I wil make no fast footing Now touching the feminine Success● to the right of the Croune of England it● no new found Succession and much le● vnnatural We reade in our Chronicles Queene Cordel the thirde heire and daug●ter of King Leyre the tēth King of Eritan● that restored her father to the kingdom● being deposed by her two other sisters W● reade that about three hundered fifty an● fiue yeares before the Natiuitie of Christ● Martia Proba during the nonage of he● sonne did gouerne this Realme ful politik●ly and wisely and established certaine lawe● called Leges Martianae There be aswel of our owne as of exterternal historiographers that for a most certeinty affirme that Helena the noble Constantine his mother was a Britaine and the only daughter and heire of Coelus King of Britanie and that the said Constantine was borne in Britanie Surely that his father Cōstantinus died in Britanie at Yorke and that the said Constantinus began his noble Victorious race of his most worthy Empire in Britany it is reported by auncient Writers and of great faith and credit And that likewise long before the said Helens time women bare the greatest sway both in warre ●nd peace and that the Britaine 's had womē or their Capteines in warfare Amōg other Cornelius Tacitus writeth thus His at●e allis inuicem instructi Voadica generis regij ●mina Duce neque enim sexum in Impertis ●scernunt sumpsêre vniuersi bellum We haue now already shewed of Henry he seconde who obteined the Croune by ●he mothers right Which said King by the Title of his wife and after him his Succes●ours Kings of England did inioy the Duke●omes of Aquitania and the Dukedome of Poiters as the said Kings Successour should ●aue done also as we haue shewed before the Dukedome of Britanie if Arthur King Richardes Neuew had not by the vsurping of King Iohn and his vnnatural crueltie died without issue And by what other right then by the womans inheritance dew to King Edward the third by his mother the Frenche Kings daughter doe the Kinges of this Realme beare the Armes and Title of the Kings of Frāce And though the Frēch men thinke their parte the better against vs it is not but vpō an old politike law of their owne as they say and not vpon any suche fonde ground as ye pretende that women Regiment is vnnatural Which Regimēt ye stoutly affirme to b● farre a sunder from any natural Regimēt ye● truely as farre as was the boies head frō the shoulders the last Bartholmew Faire at Lōdon which many a poore foole did beleeue to be true For as the boies head remained stil vpon his necke and shoulders though i● seemed by a light liuely legerdemaine to be a great way from the bodie so would you now cast a mist before our eies and make vs beleue that womans gouernmēt and nature be so diuided and sundred that they may i● no wise be lincked and coupled together But surely the French nation was neuer so vnwise to thinke this kind of Gouermēt repugnant to Nature or to Gods holy Word For then they would neuer haue suffered their Realme to haue ben so often gouerned and ruled by women in the time of the nonage or absence of their Kings As by Adela the mother of King Philip and by Blanche the mother of S. Lewis and by the wife of the late King Frauncis taken prisoner at Paura and by diuers others Neither should the said Adela and Blanche haue ben so cōmended of their said noble and worthy rule and ●uernmēt The said Frenchmē though by ●oli●ie they haue prouided to exclude fo●iners from the inheritance of the Croune 〈◊〉 they themselues holde at this day by ●e womās title and interest the Dukedom ●f Britanie with diuers other goodly pos●ssions And we haue shewed before how ●ewis the Dolphin of France made a Title 〈◊〉 the Croune of this Realme in the right ●f his wife Thus I haue as I suppose sufficiently proued that this kinde of Regimēt 〈◊〉 not against Nature by the auncient and ●ontinual practise of Asia Aphrica and Eu●●pa For the perfecting of the whiche laste ●●rte of Europa and of the whole three ●artes I ende with the notable Poet Virgils verses Filius huic fato Diuûm prolesque virilis Nulla fuit primaque oriens erepta iuuenta est Sola domum tantas seruabat filia sedes We knit vp therfore our conclusion against you after this sort That law and vsage cānot be compted against the law of nature or ius Gētiū which the most part of al coūtries and one great or notable part of the whol world doth and hath vsed but this lawe or vsage is such Ergo it is not against the law of Nature The Maior nedeth no proufe and fo● the proufe of the Minor we neede to imploy no farder labour then we haue already done Whervpon the consequēt must nede● be inferred that this law or vsage doth we● agree and stand with the law of nature The reason thereof is that it
good reason and lawe to stande at defence and onely to auoide as easely we may their obiections which principally and chiefly are grounded vpon the common lawes and Statutes of this Realme yet for the bettering and strengthening of the same we shal lay forth sundrie great and inuincible reasons cōioyned with good and sufficient authoritie of the law so approued and confirmed that the Aduersaries shal neuer be able iustly to impugne them And so that we trust after the reading of this Treatise and the effectes of the same wel digested no maner of scruple ought to remaine in any indifferent mans hart concerning her right and Title Whose expectation and conscience allthough we truste fully in this Discourse to satisfie and doubt nothing in the worlde of the righteousnes of our cause yet must we nedes confesse the manner and forme to entreate therof to be ful of difficultie and perplexity For such causes of Princes as they be seldome and rare so is it more rare and strange to finde them discoursed discussed and determined by any lawe or statute albe it nowe and then some statutes tende that waye Neither do our lawes nor the Corps of the Romaine and Ciuil law lightly meddle with the princelie gouernement but with priuate mens causes And yet this notwithstanding for the better iustification of our cause albe it I denie not but that by the cōmon law it muste be knowē who ought to haue the Croune and that the common lawe muste discerne the right aswel of the Croune as of subiectes yet I saye that there is a greate difference betwene the Kings right and the right of others And that the Title of the Croune of this Realme is not subiect to the rules and principles of the common lawe of this Realme as to be ruled and tryed after such order and course as the inheritance of priuate persons is by the same For the prous whereof let vs consider what the common lawe of this Realme is and how the rules thereof be grounded and do take place It is very manifeste and plaine that the common lawe of this Realme of England is no law writtē but grounded only vpon a common and generall custome throughout the whole realme as appeareth by the Treatise of the auncient and famous Writer of the lawes of the realme named Ranulphus de Glanuilla who wrote in the time of the noble King Henrie the second of the law and Custome of the realme of England being then and also in the time of the raigne of King Richarde the firste the chiefe Counsailour and Iustice of the same King and also by the famouse Iustice Fortescue in his booke whiche he wrote being Chauncellour of England De laudibus Legum Angltae And by 33. H. 6.51 and by E. 4.19 Whiche Custome by vsage and continuall practise heretofore had in the Kinges Courts within this Realme is only knowen and mainteined wherein we seeme much agreable to the olde Lacedemonians who many hundred yeres past most politikely and famously gouerned their common Wealth with lawe vnwritten whereas among the Athenians the writen lawes bare al the sway This thing being so true that with any reason or good authoritie it can not be denied then we are farther to consider whether the Kinges Title to the Croune can be examined tried and ordered by this common Custome or no. Yf ye say it may then must ye proue by some recorde that it hath bene so vsed otherwise ye only say it and nothing at all proue it For nothing can be said by lawe to be subiecte to any custome vnlesse the same hath ben vsed accordingly and by force of the same custom I am wel assured that you are not able to proue the vsage and practise thereof by any record in any of the Kings courts Yea I wil farther say vnto you and also proue it that there is no one rule general or special of the common lawe of this Realme which ye ●●ther haue shewed or can shewe that 〈◊〉 bene taken by any iuste construction to 〈◊〉 tende vnto or bind the King or his Crou●●● I wil not denie but that to declare and see forth the prerogatiue and Iurisdictiō of the King ye may shewe many rules of the lawe but to binde him as I haue sayde ye can shewe none Ye say in your booke that it is a Maxime in our lawe most manifest that who so euer is borne out of England and of father and mother not being of the obedience of the King of England can not be capable to inherite any thing in England Whiche rule being general without any wordes of exception ye also say must nedes extende vnto the Croune What you meane by your law I knowe not But if you meane as I thinke you do the common lawe of England I answere there is no such Maxime in the common lawe of this Realme of Englande as hereafter I shal manifestly proue But if it were for argumentes sake admitted for this time that it be a Maxime or general rule of the cōmon law of England yet to say that it is so general as that no exception can be taken against the same rule ye shewe your selfe either ignorant or els very carelesse of your creditte For it doth plainely appeare by the Statute of 25. E. 3. being a declaration of that rule of the Lawe whiche I suppose ye meane terming it a Maxime that that rule extendeth not vnto the Kinges children Whereby it moste euidently appeareth that it extendeth not generally to al. And if it extende not to binde the Kinges children in respect of any inheritance descended vnto them from any of their Auncestours it is an Argument à fortiori that it doth not extende to binde the King or his Croune And for a ful and short answere to your Authorities sette foorth in your marginall Notes as 5. Ed ward 3. tit Ayle 13. Ed war. 3. tit Bref 31. Edw. 3. tit Coson 42. Ed war. 3. fol. 2. 22. Henric. 6. fol. 42.11 Henric. 4. fol. 23. 24. Litleton ca. vilenage it may plainly appeare vnto all that will reade and pervse those Bookes that there is none of them al that doth so much as with a peece of a word or by any colour or shadow seeme to intende that the Title of the Croune is bounde by that your supposed general rule or Maxime For euerie one of the said Cases argued and noted in the said Booke are onely concerning the dishabilitie of an Alien borne and not Denizon to demaunde any landes by the lawes of the Realme by suite and action onely as a subiect vnder the King and nothing touching any dishabilitie to be laied to the King himselfe or to his subiectes Is there any controuersie about the Title of the Croune by reason of any such dishabilitie touched in any of these Bookes No verely not one worlde I dare boldely say As it may most manifestly appeare to them that wil reade and pervse