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A04988 A Catholicke apologie against the libels, declarations, aduices, and consultations made, written, and published by those of the League, perturbers of the quiet estate of the realme of France Who are risen since the decease of the late Monsier, the Kings onely brother. By E.D.L.I.C.; Apologie catholique. English Belloy, Pierre de, ca. 1540-1613.; Aggas, Edward, attributed name. 1585 (1585) STC 15137; ESTC S108196 138,975 314

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the same spoken of To conclude therefore I will now cōtent my self with warning euery one to mark and consider the meanes which such alwaies as haue gotten the vpper hand of a Lordship whereto they had no other right but habilitie haue houlden and then I hope they will thincke that the gouernment of a naturall Prince is gracious louing and fauourable in respect of y e mistrustfull suspicious and tyrannous straunger vnto whom not onely the deedes and wordes but also the gesture behauiour yea the goodes and welth of his Citizens are suspected because he feareth his owne shadowe Remember the auncient Fable of the Pigeons who when they had elected the Ringdoue to rule them were soone wearie of her courteous and gentle gouernment which they termed soft and delicate and in her roume chose the Kite who in liew of wel entreating of thē did eate beate and dayly teare some one among them in sunder with her beake and wings whereat these miserable fooles being offended could haue bene cōtent to haue returned vnder the yoke of their first election but the Kites tyrannie could neuer brooke it whose successors do yet to this day practize their roine vpon them Once it fell out that the Frenchmen through wicked counsaile in liew and place of their naturall Prince whom they bare somewhat heauy were suborned to elect one Giles a Romaine of whom they were soone wearie after they had casted what it was to liue vnder one whose humour and birth did not agree with his subiects and it fell our well for them that their King was of power sufficient to resume them againe into his protection The ende of the third part ❧ THE CONTENTS OF THE FOVRTH part of this Booke 1 The authorities of Doctors for the preferment of the Neuewe before the Vnckle 2 Examples of the preferment of the Neuewe before the Vnckle 3 Reasons in law for the Neuew against the Vnkle The Neuewe succeedeth in the eldership of his father in proper person as being substituted to his late father 4 The right of eldership is transmissible perfect wanting but execution 5 The right of eldership is legall or custumary 6 The Lord Cardinall of Bourbons acknowledgemēt in the fauour of his neuew the K. of Nauarres mariage 7 Answere to the examples of the Vnckle alleadged against the neuewe 8 Answer to the Vnkles reasons against the neuewe Substitutions and continuatiō frō the father to the sonne in collaterall ligne by Iustinian 9 Successiou once roored in a ligne neuer departeth the same vntill it be finished or worne out 10 The order of Tutorship and the succession of free borne Libertines is vnlike 11 The Kings youth neuer debarreth thē from the Crowne The opening of the saying that personall right is not transmissible 12 Successions made by ciuill lawe and custome confessing the right of eldership are farre vnlike THE FOVRTH PART OF the Cath. Apologie IN the fourth Obiection the King of Nauarres aduersaries doe oppose against him the Lord Cardinall of Bourbon his Vncle as neerer by one degrée and nowe by the decease of the late Anthonie of Bourbon Father to the sayd Lorde King of Nauarre the eldest of the house of Bourbon 1 This question is one of the most tossed of all others and can not be decided by the arrestes of the Salicke Lawe that wee haue in these words De terra verò Salica in mulierem nulla portio haereditatis transit sed hoc virilis sexus acquirit hoc est filij in ipsa haereditate succedunt sed vbi inter nepotes pronepotes post longum tempus de Allode terrae contentio suscitatur non per stirpes sed per capita diuidantur But the decision hereof we must séeke in the Commentaries of our Doctors which Accurtius Odofrede Pope Innocent the fourth Durand Ric. de Malumbris Iohn Andrew Alberick de Rosatis Barth Balde Paule de Casiro Angel Aret. Martin de Lande Iohn Faber Pet. de Ancar Barbat Felin Ausrerius Wil. Benedict Cassanee Lewes Bolognine Matth. de Afflictis Andreas Sicul. Abbas Panormitanus Bartholomeus Sosinus Iason Alciatus Tiraquel Lewes Charond Choppinus and many other haue concluded in fauour of the Neuewe against the Vncle who termeth himselfe eldest by his brothers decease either indirect or collaterall lyne in successions indeuided as Realmes Empires Duchies Coūties and Marquisates Yea Decius imitating Socinus doth write that amōg the Interpreters of Ciuill Canon law hi qui pondere numero mensura praeualent haue alwayes consulted and determined against the Vnkle so that by the authoritie of so many skilfull persons the sayd Lorde King of Nauarre hath the better cause of the Cardinall his Vnkle Secondly the foreiudgements must be alledged for the decision of this controuersie Balde ho●ldeth that euermore it hath so bene obserued and decided in all contradictorie iudgements of France and England And Paul maketh mention of the Spanish law in this respect solemnly sworne vnto by the states of the same lande in deede we reade goodly examples both of these and many others 2 First in France for the same house of Bourbon in the time of Lewes the Fat king of France about the yeere 1110. Hanno had expulsed his Neuewe Arcembault a young child sonne to his elder brother pretending that the Lordship perteined to him as being entred into the Lawe of the eldership by the decease of his elder brother But the French Nobility forced the vnkle to giue place to the Neuew whom they substituted in the roume and place of his brother reseruing to Hanno onely some portion of the goods as to one of the Children of the same house An other example we haue in the posteritie of Henry the second K. of England who had three sonnes Richard Cordelion Secondly Geffrey who had maried Constance the Heyre of Brittaine and dyed in his Fathers time leauing his Wife great of Arthure afterward Duke of Britaine and Iohn surnamed without land Soone after the fathers death dyed Richard also without issue whereupon Phil. Augustus King of Fraunce who raigned about the yere 1141. adiudged the Dutchy of Normandy with other the Landes that the said Richard held in Fraunce vnto Arthure sonne to G●ffrey his elder brother but afterward the sayde Iohn made peace with Augustus through the mariage of his sonne Lewes vnto Blanch. Neece to the sayd Iohn by his Sister wife to the King of Castile togither with some Lands that the saide Iohn habandoned to the sayd Phillip So that Arthure still prosecuting his right was slaine by his vnkle Iohn wherevpon the King of Fraunce tooke occasion for that fellony to confiscate all those landes as hauing alwayes fauoured and aucthorised the cause of the sayd Arthur The third iudgement passed in the tyme of Charles the Fayre King of Fraunce about the yeere 1331. for the Earle of Flaunders for Lewes of Neuers was by the Peeres of the Realme declared Earle of Flaunders and preferred before his
friuolous causes and of no importāce whose sentence neuerthelesse was confirmed and againe published by Innocent the fourth successor to the sayd Gregorie and after by Boniface the eight inserted into his sixt booke of Decretals in which place he vseth these wordes of the Scripture Quodcúnque ligaueris c. as an authoritie wherein to ground the execution of his will Bald also and Iohn Andrew very Catholicke Glozers doe confesse that in deede he seemed rather a partie then a Iudge Ni●holas the 3. who followed soone after seeking to take the whole gouernement of the Towne from all but the Pope forbad y t neither King Duke Earle or Marquize should be established or accept the authoritie of Senator or Gouernour therein declaring that the Iurisdiction thereof belonged priuatly to the holy Sea before all other not in respect of Constantines donation but through these wordes In omnem terram exiuit sonus eorum and such other which hee interpreteth as hee thincketh good Which in effect are the very reasons whereupon Boniface the eight excommunicated King Phillip the Faire of France and gaue his Realme for a praye to the first that could seaze vpon it as we reade in his constitution in deede extrauagant in the which he exempteth neither Emperour nor King from his subiection euen in Temporall causes as he saith Also by vertue of that great power Clement the fifth disanulled the sentence giuen by the Emperour Henry the seauenth of Luxēbourg against Robert King of Sicille after hee had procured the proysoning of the same Emperour by a Muncke in ministring to him the Eucharist Which Balde confesseth to haue bene a presumpteous and wrongfull deede Finally by those Tragedies that Iohn the 22. Benedict the 12. and Clement the 6. stirred vp throughout Christiandome against the Emperour Lewes of Bauiere as also in our daies Alexander the sixt and Iulius the second did no lesse neither had any other ground We may see the causes whereby the Popes do pretend authoritie to depose Kings subuert Realmes and giue them in pray to whomsoeuer they thinke good True it is that such of them as haue most dissembled haue euer exēpted the Realm of Frāce Innocent the third writing to the Prelates and French Nobilitie for Iohn without land King of England declareth that he will enterprize nothing against the Maiestie of the French King But Hostiensis who knewe the Storie doth in this place write that the Protestation was contrary to the effect because the sayd Innocent went about to hinder King Phillip Auguste from vsing his feudall right ouer the Dutches of Normandie Guyenne and other the Lands holden by the English and fallē into the lapse through the murder committed vpon Arthur his elder brothers sonne In an other decretal Epistle the same Pope confesseth that the French King in Temporall causes and gouernment of his Realme acknowledgeth no superiour Clement the fifth in his extrauagant for appeasing King Phillip the Faire who was stirred vp by the insolencie of Boniface the eight disanulled reuoked his declarations against the Realme of France and aduowed the same not to be subiect to his Sea by vertue of the sayd constitution The same Pope also protested that the power which his Officers vsed against the said Kings subiects during his being in the Realm was by the permission of the sayd Lord King as appeareth by the protestation the same time enrouled in the Court of Parliamēt for in trueth it hath euer more bene resolued and is a cace most certaine that the King of France doth vpon earth acknowledge no superiour in whatsoeuer cōcerneth the pollicie gouernement of his Crowne neither was euer subiect to the Romain Empire from the which he wrested the Gaules with the point of the sworde And although the French Kings were sometimes Emperours them selues yet did they neuer submit this Crowne to the Diadem Imperiall whereupon the Kings Atorney general would not suffer the Emperour Charles the fourth beeing in the Parliament there to make a Knight without king Charles the 5. his expresse permission As also the Emperor Charles the fifth passing through Fraunce obteyned the good will of King Frances the first to pardon sundry offenders because no other then his Maiestie hath power or authoritie ouer the temporall causes of his Realm among which is vndoubtedly the punishing of transgressions yea euen of heresie of the which wee now speake the notice and Iurisdiction whereof haue euer more bene left and with good reason belongeth to the seculer Magistrate because we ought to consider the lawe of God first in this world whereto the politicke and temporall Magistrate preseruer of the societie of men and earthly policie for the auoyding of confusion and trouble forceth euery one to obeye Secondly in the worlde to come wherein God onely iudgeth and punisheth not leauing in this worlde in respect of himselfe any Magistrate to be the auenger of the iniurie to him done in y ● transgression of his ordinances For the Priestes who are the guardians and Schoolemasters of Gods lawe are not cōstituted Iudges but easie Phisitions to the soule and Gods commaundements are no such Sanctions as importe punishment but most louing doctrine and admonitious otherwise if by the sworde we should be forced to the obseruing of Gods lawe the desert were small Vppon which poynt the Apostle sayd Not that wee rulee ouer your faith but are helpers to your ioye And in an other place All Scripture is inspired frō aboue and is profitable to teach to conuince to correct and to instruct to righteousnesse Hee saith not to force or to punish Chrisostome very carefully deuideth the royall power from the ministerie of the Gospell saying that the ministerie is a function committed by God to the ende to teach without weapons also that it is no power to giue or take awaye Realmes neither to make lawes for politick gouernment Our French Bishop S. Hilarie writeth as much to the Emperour Constantius also against Auxentius Bishop of Millan And this the good Fathers learned at the mouth of the Sonne of God our Lord Iesus Christ when he sayd to his Apostles The Kings of the nations haue dominion ouer them but it shall not be so with you In an other place hee promiseth them that they shall sit with the Sonne of God whē he shal come in Maiestie to iudge mankinde but that contrariwise so long as they remaine in y e world exercizing their Ministerie they shall bee brought before Kings and politicke Magistrates for his sake so farre shall they be from being Kings and Iudges themselues The head of the Church euen Iesus Christ fled when they sought to make him King declaring y ● his Kingdome was not of this worlde wherfore he would not be iudge among those that were at controuersie yea he submitted himself to the Kings of the earth paying vnto them the tribute which was vnto
Vnckle after the decease of Earle Robert because he was sonne to the elder who dyed afore his father True it is that for entering vpon the sayd Countie and taking vpon him the title of Earle before he had taken his oath done homadge to his Maiestie he was arrested at Paris and imprisoned in the Castle of Louure from whence he was soone after deliuered againe An other solemne arrest passed in the tyme of Phil. of Valois about the yeere 1328. for the Dutchie of Brittain by reason of the decease of Duke Iohn who dyed without issue leauing behind him his third brother Ih. Earle of Montfort and the daughter of his second brother Guy Vicountie of Limoges then wife to Charles Earle of Blois vnto whom by sentence of the Court the sayd Dutchie in the yerre 1341. was adiudged because Charles of Blois shewed y ● by the custumes of Brittaine the succession belonged to the eldest thē to the second and lastly to the third thereupon inferring that his wife daughter to the second did represent the same person But where the house of Montfort did afterward enioye the same Dutchie that came by vertue of a certaine agreement afterwarde made at the entrie of Charles the fifth in the yeere 1364. An other sentence passed in the tyme of Frances the 1. in the yeere 1517. for the Countie of Foix and other the landes belonging to the same famely betweene Odet of Foix Lord of Lautrect and Villemur and Henry of Albret King of Nauarre Grandfather to the King of Nauarre now raigning for Gaston of Foix and Eleanor of Nauarre had two sonnes Gaston the eldest and Iohn Vicountie of Narbonne the yonger Gaston dyed before both father and mother leauing suruiuours by his wife Lady Magdalem of Fraunce daughter to Charles the seauenth two children Philip Phebus and Ratherine whereupon their Vnckle Iohn Vicountie of Narbonne hauing maried the sister of King Lewes the 12. made suite against the sayde Phebus his neuewe pretending eldership by the decease of his brother Gaston The cause pleaded in the Court of Parliament was by the Counsaile compounded in the yere 1488 but soone after began againe by Gaston of Foix Duke of Nemours sonne to the sayde Iohn being in great fauour with his Vnkle King Lewes the 12. but because hee dyed at the battaile of Rauenna without issue it seemed this processe might haue ended but it fell out otherwise for Odet of Foix his Cossen and pretended heire tooke the same cause in hand against Katherin sister to the sayd Phebus deceased and proceeded so farre that by arrest of the Court in the yeere 1517. he was put by the sayd Coūtie together with other the Lordships of the same famelic adiudged vnto Henry of Albret sonne to the sayde Katherine and his posteritie of whom as is aforesayd is discended the now Lorde King of Nauarre In England after the decease of Edward the third in the yeere 1378. Richard sonne to Edw. Prince of Wales was without contradiction crowned and preferred before his Vnckles the Dukes of Lancaster of Clarence of Glocester and Yorke but aboue twentie yeeres after for his euill behauiour and misgouernment he was deposed and his Cossen Henry sonne to Iohn Duke of Lancaster set vp in his place In Portugall King Alphons the fifth had two children Fernand and Henry who beeing the elder deceased before his father leauing a sonne named Iohn after the decease of the said Alphons the said Iohn commonly called Iohn the second whō the common Histories doe falsly terme sonne to the sayd Alphons did peaceable enioye the Crowne from the yeere 1482. vnto the yeere 1495. when he dyed without issue and then his Cossen Emanuell sonne to Ferdinand succeeded him The sayd Emanuell hauing raigned 22. yeres among other children left his sonne Iohn the third who was crowned after him and Henry the Cardinal Iohn the 3. during his raigne had a sonne of the same name who dyed before his father leauing his wife with childe of Sebastien who after his Grandfather Iohn the 3. was preferred before his great Vnckle Henry brother to the sayd Iohn the 3. notwithstanding the sayde Sebastiens father was neuer King and that the said Henry might haue obiected the same but he raigned not vntill the sayd Sebastien dyed and left no issue which question sayth Tiraquell doth so resemble ours as one Bee may an other In Castile King Alphons the 10. had two sonnes the elder Ferdinand who maried Blanch daughter to S. Lewes and of her begat Ferdinand and Alphons The younger called Sanxi who seeing his elder brother dead and waying his neuewes right to the Realme could not tary the decease of his father the sayde Alphons but during his life time raised warres to the ende to procure himselfe to bee declared heire whereat this good olde man was so wrath that he accursed him Besides that the French King Phillip the third Vnckle by the mother to the sayde yong Princes after he had therevpon asked aduise of the wise men of his Realme led an armie vnto the frontiers of Spayne and had gone forward had not the Popes Legat lingered him with wordes together with the assurance which the sayde Alphons made him viz. that he would vpholde the right and cause of his sayd neuewes which neuerthelesse he soone after he forgat and sent out his Letter sealed with gold and his owne Image therein grauen to his subiects repugnant to the former and by meanes of the same by forc●establish●d Sanxi his seconde sonne so as the orphelins were not ouercome but with the swor● without any shewe of reason as the historie doe import In Sicill the like quarell being moued betweene the sonne and the neuewe of Agathocles in the extremitie of his sicknesse the neuewe by the will and iudgement of God ouerthrew his sayd Vnkle and remayning victor was King ouer the whole Land In Germany vpon the like controuersie vnder Henry the 3. after vnder Ottho the Great the histories doe report that the States of the Empire met and agreed that this debate should as the custome of that time required be ended by a cōbat wherein the defendants of the cause of y ● neuew sonne to his brother y t would haue had his fathers roume were conquerors and thereupon the sayd Estates did so conclude and adiudge it More solemne also is the sentence which Licurgus the true Oracle of humaine wisedome gaue in his owne cause about the 17. Olimpiade in the time of Numa King of the Romaines for wee reade that his father Enomus King of the Lacedemonians had two sonnes Polidectes and Licurgus the first dyed before his father leauing his wife with childe Enomus dead Licurgus tooke the royall Diadem and kept it a fewe moneths vntill at a banquet among his friendes his neuewe the after borne was offered vnto him whome hee named Charilaus withall set the Crowne vpon his head To