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A51563 The second part of an argument shewing that a standing army is inconsistent with a free government, and absolutely destructive to the constitution of the English monarchy with remarks on the late published list of King James's Irish forces in France.; An argument shewing, that a standing army is inconsistent with a free government. Part 2 Moyle, Walter, 1672-1721. 1697 (1697) Wing M3030; ESTC R17336 12,085 29

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the Publick God grant this be not the Condition of a Nation I know Well 't is all one for let a Standing Army be what it will still we must have it for this unanswerable Reason viz. The Defence of the Nation from a sudden Invasion for unless say they you have an Army to lie leiger you are liable to be over-run by a foreign Enemy e're you are aware and you will shew less Wit than Aesop 's Rhinoceros you will have your Men to raise and your Teeth to whet when you should use them This Thought I confess is very natural and obvious and therefore could not possibly escape our wise Forefathers yet we cannot learn that ever they put it in practice which is a great sign they did not like it No we are well assured that they would not have suffered a Mercenary Army to defend the Nation if they would have done it gratis They would rather have mistrusted it would double the Invasion and make it as big again as it was I do not speak this by guess but have it from the wise Sir Robert Cotton who being consulted 3 Caroli in a difficult State of Affairs amongst other things gave this Advice at the Council-Table Rushworth pag. 469. There must be to withstand a Foreign Invasion a proportion of Sea and Land Forces And it is to be considered that no March by Land can be of that speed to make head against the landing of an Enemy Then that follows That there is no such Prevention as to be Master of the Sea For the Land Forces if it were for an offensive War the Men of less Livelihood were best spared and we used formerly to make such Wars Purgamenta Reipublicae if we made no farther Purchase by it But for the Safety of the Commonwealth the Wisdom of all times did never intrust the Publick Cause to any other than to such as had a Portion in the Publick Adventure And that we saw in eighty eight when the Care of the Queen and of the Council did make the Body of that large Army no other than of the Trained Bands In the same Advice to the King he lets him know how the People resented his keeping up an Army in the Winter tho we were then in War both with France and Spain The words are these And the dangerous Distastes to the People are not a little improved by the unexampled Course as they conceive of retaining an Inland Army in Winter Season when former Times of general Fear as in eighty eight produced none such and makes them in their distracted Fears conjecture idly it was raised wholly to subject their Fortunes to the Will of Power rather than of Law and to make good some farther Breach upon their Liberties and Freedoms at home rather than defend us from any Force abroad And tells the King the Consequences of these Jealousies is worthy a prudent and preventing Care But what signify the Proceedings of former Ages to us say the Projectors the World is strangely altered and the Power of France is become so formidable that it can never be opposed in the Elizabeth way They still keep up an Army of three or four hundred thousand Men and how shall us defend our selves against all those without ten or fifteen thousand disciplined Troops I think the Author of the Argument page 18 and 19 hath sufficiently shewed the Difficulty if not Impossibility of a Foreign Invasion whilst we are superior at Sea the great improbability the French King should engage in such a Design and much greater he should succeed in it But that we may for ever lay this Goblin we will admit our Fleets to be kidnapp'd by an unlucky Wind whilst the French land twenty thousand Men in our Country Tho in gratitude for this Concession I hope my Adversaries will grant that their Fleet cannot get back again without our meeting with them since the same Wind that carries them home will carry us out or if they will not be so good-natur'd as to allow this I will undertake for them for we live in an undertaking Age that they will agree we shall intercept their Supplies Then the Case is thus That twenty thousand Men of which few can be Horse are landed in England without any humane probability of being supplied from abroad I say this Army shall never march twenty miles into the Country for they cannot put themselves in a marching posture in less than a fortnight or three weeks and by that time we may have 100000 Militia drawn down upon them whereof ten thousand shall be Horse and as many Dragoons as we please And if this Militia does nothing else but drive the Country cut off their Foragers and Straglers possess themselves of the Defilees and intercept Provisions their Army must be destroyed in a small time Of this kind I could give many Instances out of History but because Antient ones they say will not fit our purpose I will give you a late one out of Ireland 1st I think it will be readily agreed there are ten Men in England for one in Ireland 2dly That King William had more English and Scotch to join with him in Ireland than the F. K. hath Malecontents in England 3dly That even our Militia have more Courage than Irishmen And yet tho we had eight thousand Horse and above thirty thousand Foot in Ireland and a great part of the Country in our possession yet we were more than four Years in conquering the rest and almost a Miracle we did it then And I believe no Man will deny if we could not have supplied our Army from England but they had all there perished such is the Advantage of fighting upon one's own Dunghil And to shew what Treatment the French are like to meet with in England I will put you in mind of the Purbeck Invasion which was so private that it was seen only by an old Man and a Boy And yet tho the Country thought the Government against them we had above forty thousand Voluntiers in Arms in two or three days time who came thither on their own accord to give them the meeting and if they had been there I doubt not would have given a good account of them Our Court when it was over shewed their dislike of it and questioned the Sheriff of Dorsetshire about it And tho we have forgot it yet I believe the French will remember Purbeck for it shewed the true Spirit and Genius of the English Nation To conclude The whole management of this Project is ridiculous but the fatal Consequences of it require deeper thought For when we have fool'd our selves into the Bondage of a Standing Army how shall we ever get out of it again Not as the Nation freed themselves from the Court of Wards We cannot buy it off for two very good Reasons No Money will be taken for it and we shall have nothing to give which is not theirs already Our Estates Lives and Liberties will