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A11213 The poore vicars plea Declaring, that a competencie of meanes is due to them out of the tithes of their seuerall parishes, notwithstanding the impropriations. Written by Thomas Ryves Dr. of the Ciuile Lawes. Ryves, Thomas, Sir, 1583?-1652. 1620 (1620) STC 21478; ESTC S116301 50,156 162

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my_o purpose_n be_v not_o at_o this_o time_n to_o persuade_v a_o parliament_n to_o make_v a_o law_n but_o to_o prove_v unto_o the_o world_n that_o the_o law_n be_v of_o force_n already_o and_o want_v nothing_o but_o a_o fit_a and_o a_o willing_a hand_n to_o put_v it_o in_o execution_n in_o pursuit_n of_o which_o point_n i_o listen_v not_o frame_v unto_o myself_o a_o adverse_a party_n rather_o i_o wish_v that_o the_o justice_n of_o the_o cause_n may_v never_o find_v a_o enemy_n neither_o will_v i_o be_v curious_a in_o forge_v argument_n against_o my_o own_o opinion_n for_o that_o be_v but_o like_o tilt_v at_o a_o saracen_n head_n only_o i_o will_v show_v that_o all_o those_o statute_n which_o most_o proper_o concern_v this_o matter_n make_v nothing_o against_o but_o altogether_o for_o the_o vicar_n maintenance_n in_o such_o sort_n as_o have_v be_v before_o declare_v wish_v and_o hope_v also_o that_o some_o religious_a professor_n of_o the_o common_a law_n may_v hereafter_o upon_o 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