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B12208 The copie of a leter, vvryten by a Master of Arte of Cambrige, to his friend in London concerning some talke past of late betvven tvvo vvorshipful and graue men, about the present state, and some procedinges of the Erle of Leycester and his friendes in England. Conceyued, spoken and publyshed, vvyth most earnest protestation of al duetyful good vvyl and affection, tovvardes her most excellent Ma. and the realm, for vvhose good onely it is made common to many. Morgan, Thomas, 1543-1606, attributed name.; Parsons, Robert, 1546-1610, attributed name. 1584 (1584) STC 5742.9; ESTC S108682 125,586 206

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admitted to the Crovvn Yonge Arthure also Duke of Bretaigne by his mother Constance that matched vvith Geffray K. Henrie the secondes sonne vvas declared by K. Richard his Pol. lib. 15 Flor. hist 1208. vncle at his departure tovvardes Ierusalem and by the vvhole Realm for lavvfull heire apparent to the Crovvne of England though he vvere borne in Bretaigne out of English alleagiaunce and so he vvas taken and adiudged by all the vvorlde at that day albeit after king Richards death his Kinge Ioh● a Tyraunt other vncle Iohn moste Tyrannouslie toke both his kingdome and his lyfe from him For vvhich notable iniustice he vvas detested of all men both abrode at home and most apparentlie scourged by God vvith grieuous and manifolde plagues both vppon him selfe and vppon the Realme vvhich yeelded to his vsurpation So that by this also it appeareth vvhat the practize of our countrie hath bene from tyme to tyme in this case of forreine birth vvhich practize is the best interpretor of our common English lavv vvhich dependeth especialie and moste of al vpon custome nor can the aduersarie aleage anie one example to the contrarie Their sixt is of the iudgement and sentence of K. The sixt reason The iudgement and sentence of K Henry the seuenth Henrie the seuēth and of his Councell vvho being together in consulation at a certaine tyme about the mariage of Margaret his eldest daughter into Scotland some of his Councell moued this doubt vvhat should ensue if by chaunce the kinges issue male should faile and so the succession deuolue to the heires of the said Margaret as novv it doth VVherunto that vvise and moste prudent Prince made ansvvere that if anie such euent should be it could not be preiudicial to England being the bigger parte but rather beneficial for that it should dravve Scotland to Englād that is the lesser to the more euen as in tymes paste it hapened in Nor mandie Aquitane and some other Prouinces VVhich ansvvere apeased all doubtes and gaue singular contention to thes of his Councell as Polidore vvriteth that liued at that tyme and vvrote the special matters of that reigne by the kinges ovvn instruction So that hereby vve see no question made of K. Henrie or his Councellours tovvching forreine birth to let the succession of Ladie Margarets issue vvhich no doubt vvould neuer haue bene omitted in that learned assemblie if anie lavv at that tyme had bene estemed or imagined to barre the same And thes are sixe of their principalest reasons to proue that neither by the vvordes nor meaning of our common lavves nor yet by custom or practize of our Realm an Alien may be debarred frō claime of his interest to the Crovvn vvhen it falleth to him by rightful discent in blood and successiō But in the particular case of the Q. of Scottes and her The seuenth reason The Q of Scot. and her sonne no Aliens sonne they do ad another reason or tvvo therby to proue thē in verie deed to be no Aliens Not only in respect of their often cōtinual mixture vvith English blood frō the beginning and especialie of late the Q Graūdmother husbād being English so her sonne begoten of an English father but also for tvvo other causes reasōs vvhich seme in trueth of verie good importaunce The first is for that Scotland by al Englishe men hovv so euer the Scottes denie the same is taken holdē as subiect to Englād by vvay of Homage vvhich manie of their kinges at diuers tymes haue acknovvledged cōsequētlie the Q. and her sonne being borne in Scotland are not borne out of the aleagiaunce of England and so no forreyners The second cause or reason is for that the forenamed statute of forreyners in the fyue and tvventie yeare of K. Edvvard the third is intituled of those that are borne beyond the seas And in the bodie of the same statute the doubt is moued of children borne out of English aleagiaunce beyond the seas vvherby cannot be vnderstood Scotlād for that it is a peece of the cōtinent land vvithin the seas And al our olde recordes in England that talke of seruice to be done vvithin thes tvvo countries haue vsualy thes latin vvordes infra quatuor Maria or in frensh deins lez quatre mers that is vvithin the foure seas vvherby must needes be vnderstood as vvel Scotland as England and that perhapes for the reason before mentioned of the subiectiō of Scotland by vvay of Homage to the Crovvn of England In respect vvherof it may be that it vvas accompted of olde but one dominion or aleagiaunce And consequently no man borne therin can be accompted an Alien to England And this shal suffice for the first point touching forreine Natiuitie For the secōd impedimēt obiected vvhich is the The second impediment against the Q. of Scot. and her sonne vvhich is K. Hērie the eight his Testament Testamēt of K. Hērie the eight authorized by parliamēt vvherby they affirme the successiō of Scotland to be excluded it is not precisely true that they are excluded but only that they are put back behīd the succession of the house of Suffolk For in that pretended Testamēt vvhich after shal be proued to be none indeed king Henrie so disposeth that after his ovvn children if they should chaunce to die vvithout issue the Crovvn shal passe to the heirs of Fraunces and of Elenore his neipces by his yonger sister Marie Q. of Fraunce and after them deceasing also vvithout issue ●he succession to returne to the next heires againe VVherby it is euidēt that the successiō of Margaret Q. of Scotlād his eldest sister is not excluded but thrust back only frō their due place and order to expect the remainder vvhich may in tyme be left by the yonger VVherof in mine opinion do ensue some considerations Forreine birth no impediment in the iudgment of K. Henry the eight against the present pretenders them selues First that in K. Henries iudgement the former pretended rule of forreine birth vvas no sufficient impedimēt against Scotlād for if it had bene no doubt but that he vvould haue named the same in his aleaged Testament and therby haue vtterlie excluded that succession But there is no such thing in the Testament Secondlie yf they admit this Testament vvhich The succession of Scotland nexte by the iudgment of the cōpetitours alloteth the Crovvn to Scotlād next after Suffolk then seing that al the house of Suffolk by thes mens assertion is cexcluded by Bastardie it must needes folovv that Scotland by their ovvn iudgement is next and so this testament vvil make against them as indeed it doth in al pointes moste apparentlie but onelie that it preferreth the house of Suffolk before that of Scotland And therfore I think Sir that you mistake somvvhat about their opinion in aleaging this Testament For I suppose that no man of my Lord of Huntingtons faction vvil aleage or vrge the testimonie of
of Condie in the contrarie parte vvould King of Nauarre Prince of Condye think them selues greatlie iniuried by the state of Fraunce vvhich is different from them in religion at this day if after the death of the king that novv is his brother vvithout issue yf God so dispose they should be barred frō inheriting the Crovvn vnder pretence onlie of their religion My Lord of Huntingtō him self also is he not knovvē to be of My L. of Huntingtons religion a different religiō from the present state of Englād and that yf he vvere king to morovve next he vvould alter the vvhole gouernment order condition state of religion novv vsed estblished vvythin the Realm But as I said in the beginning yf one of a vvhole familie or of diuers families be culpable or to be The title of thos vvhiche ensevve the Q. of Scottes touched herein vvhat haue the rest offēded therby vvil you exclude al for the mislike of one And to descend in order yf the first in K. Henries line after her Ma. may be touched in this point yet vvhy should the rest be damnified therby The king of Scotland her sonne that next ensueth to speake in equitie vvhie should he be shut out for his religion And are not al the other in like maner protestantes vvhos discent is consequent by nature order and degre SCHOL For the yong king of Scotland quoth I the trueth is that alvvayes for mine ovvn parte I haue had great hope and expectation of him not onlie The yōg k●ng of Scotland for the conceipt vvhich commonlie men haue of such Orient youthes borne to kingdomes but especialie for that I vnderstod frō tyme to time that his educatiō vvas in allearning prīcelie exercises instruction of true religiō vnder rare and vertuous men for that purpose VVherby I conceyued hope that he might not onelie become in tyme an honorable and profitable neighbour vnto vs for assurance of the ghospel in thes partes of the vvorld but also yf God should depriue vs of her Maiesty vvhithout issue might be a meane by his suc●ssion to vnite in Concord and Gouernment the tvvoe Realmes together vvhich heretofore hath bene sought by the price of manie a thousand mens blood and not obteyned Marie yet novv of late I knovv not by vvhat meanes ther is begon in mens hartes a certaine mislike or grudge against him for that it is giuen ou● euerie vvhere that he is inclyned to be a Papist an enimie to her Ma. proceedinges VVhich argueth him verelie of singular ingratitude if it be true considering the great helpes and protection vvhich he hath receyued from her highnes euer sithence he vvas borne GENTL And are you so simple quoth the Genleman as to beleeue euerie report that you heare of this matter knovv you not that it is expedient for my L. of Leycester and his factiō that this youth aboue al other be held in perpetual disgrace vvyth her Ma. and vvyth this Realm You knovv that Richard The deuice to set out her Ma vvith the yong king of Scotlād of Glocester had neuer bene able to haue vsurped as he did if he had not first persvvaded kīg Edvvard the fovverth to hate his ovvn brother the Duke of Clarence vvhich Duke stood in the vvaye betvvene Richard and the thing vvhich he moste of al thinges coueted That is the possibility to the Crovvn and so in this case is ther the lyke deuice to be obserued For truelie for the yong king of Scotlands religion it is euident to as manie as haue reason that it cā be no other of it self but inclined to the best both in respect of his education instruction cōuersation vvith thos of true religion as also by hi● former Actions Edictes Gouernment and priuat● behauiour he hath declared Marie thes men vvhos profit is nothing lesse then that he or any other of that race should do vvel do not cease daylie by al secrete vvayes driftes and molestations possible to driue him either to mislke of our religion or els to incur the suspitiō therof vvith such of our Realm as othervvise vvould be his best friendes or if not this yet for verie need feare of his ovvn lyfe to make recourse to such other Princes abrode as may most offend or mislik this state And for this cause they suborne certaine busie felovves of their ovvn crevv and faction perteyning to the ministerie of Scotland but vnvvorthy of so vvorthie a calīg to vse such insolēcy tovvards The intolerable procedinges of certayne Ministers in Scotlād agaīst they● kig by s●bornation of ●ys ●●ymyes in England their king and Prince as is not onlie vndecent but intollerable For he may do no thing but they vvil examin and discusse the same in pulpit If he go but on hunting vvhen it pleaseth them to cal him to their preaching if he make but a dinner or supper vvhen or vvhere or vvyth vvhom they like not if he receiue but a coople of horses or other presēt frō his friendes or kinsmen beyond the seas yf he salute or vse courteouslie anie mā or messiger vvhich cōmeth from them as you knovv Princes of their nobilitie courtesie are accustomed though they come frō their enimies as often hath bene seene highlie commended in her Ma. of England yf he deale familiarlie vvyth anie Ambassadour vvhich liketh not them or finalie if he do say or signifie any one thing vvhatsoeuer that pleaseth not their humour they vvil presentlie as seditious tribunes of the people exclame in publique and stepping to the pulpit vvher the vvord of the Lord only ought to be preached vvil excite the commonaltie to discontentation inveying against their souerain vvith such bitternes of speech vnreuerend tearmes and insolēt controlmentes as is not to be spokē Novv imagine vvhat her Ma. her graue coūcell vvould do in England if such procedinges should be vsed by the cleargie against them STHOL No doubt quoth I but that suche vnquiet spirites should be punished in our Realm And so I said of late to their moste Reuerend and vvorthie Prelat Primat the Archbisshop of S. Andrevves vvith vvhom it vvas my Luck to come acquainted Sir Patrik Adamson Archbishop of S. Andrevves in London vvhether he vvas come by his kings apointment as he said to treate certaine affaires vvith our Quene and Councell And talking vvith him of this disorder of his Ministerie he confessed the same vvith much greife of minde tolde me that he had preached therof before the king him self detesting and accusing diuers heades therof for vvhich cause he vvas become verie odious to them and other of their faction both in Scotland Englād But he said that as he had giuen the reasons of his doinges vnto our Quene so meaneth he shortlie to do the same vnto Monsieur Beza and to the vvhole church of Geneua by sending thither the articles of his and their doinges Protesting vnto me that the procedinges
shevv the mans good fortune in seeing them dead vvhom for causes he vvould not haue to liue And for his arte of poysoning it is such novv and reacheth so far as he holdeth al his foes in Englād and els vvher as also a good manie of his friendes in feare therof and if it vvere knovven hovv manie he hath dispatched or assaulted that vvaye it vvould be meruailous to the The Lord Chamber layne posteritie The late Earle of Sussex vvanted not a scruple for manie yeares before his death of some dramme receyued that made him incurable And vnto that noble gentleman Mōsieur Simiers Monsieur Symiers is vvas disconuered by great prouidēce of God that his lyfe vvas to be attempted by that arte and that not taking place as it did not through his ovvne good circumspection it vvas concluded that the same should be assaulted by violēce vvherof I shal haue occasion to saye more herafter It hath byn told me also by some of the seruaunts of the late Ladie Lenox vvho vvas also of the blood Royall by Scotlād as all men knovv cōsequentlie The poisoning of the Ladie Lenox lytle lyked by Lecester that a lytle before her death or syknes my L. toke the paynes to come and visit her vvith extraordinarie kyndenes at her house at Hackeny bestovvīg lōge discourses vvith her in priuate but as soone as he vvas departed the good Ladie fell into such a Flux as by no meanes could be staied so long as she had liffe in her bodie vvhervpon both she her selff and all such as vvere neare about her and savv her disease and ending daye vvere fullie of opinion that my Lorde had procured her dispatche at his being ther. VVherof let the vvomen that serued her be examined as also Fovvler that then had the chiefe doinges in her affayres and synce hath byne enterteined by my L. of Lecester Mallet also a straunger borne that then vvas about her a sober and zelous man in religion and othervvise vvell qualified can say somevvhat in this poynt as I think if he vvere demaūded So that this arte and exercise of poysoning is much more perfect vvith my Lord then praying and he seemeth to take more pleasure therin Novv for the second point vvhich I named touching mariages and contractes vvyth vvomen you must not meruayle though his Lordship be somvvhat diuers variable and inconstant vvyth him Leycester moste variable dealing vvyth vvemē in cōtractes mariages self for that according to his profit or his pleasure and as his lust and lyking shal varie vvherin by the iudgement of all men he surpasseth not onlie Sardanapalus and Nero but euen Heliogabalus him self so his Lordship also chaungeth vviues and Minions by killing the one denying the other vsing the third for a tyme and the favvning vpon the fourth And for this cause he hath his tearmes pretences I vvarrant you of Contractes Precontractes Postcontractes Protractes and Retractes as for example after he had killed his first vvyfe and so broken that contract then forsooth cōtractes vvould he needes make him self husband to the Q. Ma. and so defeat al other Princes by vertue of his precontract But after this his lust compelling him Preconts actes Postcontractes to an other place he vvould needes make a postcōtract vvyth the Ladie Scheffield and so he did begetting tvvo children vpon her the one a boye called Robin Sheffield novv lyuing some tyme brought vp at Nevvington and the other a daughter borne as is knovven at Dudley Castle But yet after his concupiscence chaunging agayne as it neuer stayeth he resolued to make a retracte Retract of this postcōtract though it vvere as surelie done as I haue said as Bed and Bible could make the same to make a certaine nevv protract vvhich Protract is a contynuation of vsing her for a tyme vvyth the vvidovv of Essex But yet to stop the mouthes Leycester tvvo Testamēts of-out-cryars and to burie the Synagogue vvyth some honour for thes tvvo vvyues of Leycester vvere merrilie vvittilie called his olde and nevv Testamentes by a person of great excellēcie vvithin the Realm he vvas content to assigne to the former a thovvsand povvndes in money vvyth other petie considerations the pitifullest abused that euer vvas poore Ladie and so betake his lymmes to the later vvhich later notvvythstanding he so vseth as vve see novv confessing novv forsvvearing novv dissembling the mariage as he vvyll alvvayes yet kepe a voyde place for a nevv surcontract vvyth anie other vvhen occasion shall require SCHOL Novv by my truth Sir quoth I I neuer heard nor red the like to this in my lyfe yet haue I red much in my tyme of the carnalitie and lycentiousnes of diuers outragious persons in this kind of sinne as namlie these vvhom you haue mentioned before especialie the Emperour Heliogabalus vvho passed all other and vvas called Varius of the varietie of filth vvhich he vsed in this kinde of carnalitie varius Heliogabalus his moste in famous death or carnall beastlines VVhose death vvas that being at length odious to al men and so slaine by his ovvn souldiours vvas dravven through the Citie vpō the ground like a dogge caste into the cōmon priuie vvyth this Epitaphe Hic proiectus An Epitaphe est indomitae rabide libidinis catulus Here is throvven in the VVhelp of vn●evvlie and raging luste vvhich epitaphe may also one day chance to serue my L. of Lecester vvhom you cal the Beare-vvhelp yf he go forvvarde as he hath begonne and die as he deserueth But good Sir vvhat a commpassion is this that amonge vs christians and namlie in so vvel gouerned A pitteful permissiō and religious a common vvealth as ours is such a riot should be permitted vpon mens vviues in a subiect vvheras vve read that among the verie heathēs lesse offences then these in the same kinde vvere extremelie punished in Princes them selues and that not onlie in the person delmquent alone but also by extirpatiō of the vvhole familie for his The extirpation of the Tarquinians sake as apeareth in the example of the Tarquinians amonge the Romans And here also in our ovvn Realm vve haue regestred in Chronicle hovv that one king Edvvin aboue six hūdreth years past vvas An. Do 959. depriued of his kingdom for much lesse scandalous factes then thes GENTL I remēber vvel the storie quoth the gentleman ther by do easilie make cōiecture vvhat differēce ther is betvvyxt those tymes of olde our dayes novv seing thē a Crovvned Prince could not passe vnpunished vvyth one or tvvo ontragious actes vvheras novv a subiect raysed vp but yesterday frō the meaner sorte rangeth at his pleasure in al licentiousnes The into lerable licentiousnes of Lei. carnalitie and that vvith secu●itie void of feare both of God and man No mans vvife can be free from him vvhom his firie lust liketh to abuse nor their husbādes able to
daughters to vvit the daughters of Frauncis and Elenor if that they had any to any such condition Thirdlie ther may be diuers causes and argumentes The third reason The presupposed vvil is not Authentical aleaged in lavve vvhy this pretēded vvil is not authentical if othervvise it vvere certaine that king Henrie had meant it First for that it is not agreable to the minde and meaning of the Parliament vvhich intended onlie to giue authoritie for declaration and explication of the true title not for donation or intricating of the same to the ruin of the Realm Secōdly for that ther is no lavvful Authentical Copie extant therof but onlie a bare inrolment in the Chauncerie vvhich is not sufficient in so vveightie an affaire no vvitnes of the Priuie Councel or of Nobilitie to the same vvhich had bene conuenient in so great a case for the best of the vvitnesses therin named is Sir Iohn Gates vvhos miserable death is vvel knovvē no publike Notarie no Probation of the vvil before anye Bishop or anie lavvful Court for that purpose no examination of the vvitnesses or other thing orderlie done for lavvful authorizing of the matter The disprouing of the vvil by vvitnesses The Lord Pagett But of al other thinges this is moste of importaunce that the king neuer set his ovvn hande to the foresaid vvil but his stamp vvas put therunto by others either after his death or vvhen he vvas paste remembrance as the late L. Paget in the beginning of Quene Maries dayes being of the priuy Councel first of al other discouered the same of his ovvn accorde and vpō mere motion of consciēce confessing before the vvhole Councel and aftervvard also before the vvhole parliament hovv that him self vvas priuie therunto and partlie also culpable being dravven therunto by the instigation and forcible authoritie of others but yet aftervvard vpon other more godlie motions detested the deuice and so of his ovvn free vvil verie honorablie vvent and offered the discouerie therof to Sir Edvv. Mōtague the Councel As also did Sir Edvvard Montague Lord chiefe iustice that had bene priuie and presēt VVillm Clarcke at the said doinges and one VVillm Clark that vvas the man vvho put the stamp vnto the paper and is ascribed among the other pretensed vvitnesses confessed the vvhole premisses to be true purchased his pardō for his offence therin VVher vpon Q. Marie and her Councel caused presentlie the said inrolment lying in the Chauncerie to be canceled defaced and abolished And sithence that tyme in her Ma. dayes that novv liueth about the 11. or 12. yeare of her reign if I compt not amisse by occasion of a certen litle boke spred abrode at that tyme verie secretlie for aduauncing of the house of Suffolk by pretence of A meting together about this matter of the nobility this testament I remember vvel the place vvhere the late Duke of Norfolke the Marques of VVinchester vvhich then vvas Treasurer the olde Earls of Arundell and Penbrooke that novv are dead vvyth my L. of Penbrooke that yet liueth as also my L. of Leicester hīself if I be not deceyued vvith diuers others met together vpō this matter after long conferēce about the foresaid pretēsed vvil manie proffes reasons layd dovvn vvhy it could not betrue or authētical the olde Earle of Pēbrook protesting that he vvas vvyth the K. in his Chābet frō the first day of his sicknes vnto his last houre therby could vvel assure the falsificatiō therof at length it vvas moued that from that place they should go vvyth the rest of the nobilitie and proclaime the Q of Scotland heire aparent in Cheapside My L. of Leycester agayne playeth double VVherin my L. of Leycester as I tak it vvas thē as forvvard as anie man els hovv be it novv for his profit he bee turned aside and vvould turne back againe to morovv next for a greater commoditie And albeit for some causes to them selues best knovvē they proceeded not in the opē publishīg of their determination at that time yet my Lord of Penbrook novv liuing can beare vvitnes that thus much is true and that his father the olde Earle The olde Earle of Pēbroks admonition to the Earle his sonne yet liuīg at that tyme tolde him openlie before the other noble men that he had brought him to that assemblie and place to instruct him in that trueth and to charge him to vvitnes the same and to defende it also vvyth his svvorde if need required after his death And I knovve that his Lordship is of that honour and nobilitie as he can not leaue of easilie the remembraunce or due regarde of so vvorthie an admonition And this shal suffice for the second impediment imagined to proceed of this supposed testament of king Henrie the eight As for the third impediment of religion it is not The third impediment of Religiō general to al for that onlie one person if I be not deceyued of al the Competitours in K. Hērys line can be touched vvyth suspition of different religiō from the present state of England VVhich person notvvythstanding as is vvel knovven vvhile she vvas in gouernmēt in her ovvn Realm of Scotlād permitted al libertie of conscience free excercise of religion to thos of the contrarie profession and opiniō vvythout restreynt And yf she had not yet do I not see either by prescript of lavv or practize of thes our times that diuersitie of religiō may stay iust inheritours from enioying their due possessiōs in anie state or degre of priuate men and much lesse in the clayme of a kingdom vvhich alvvayes in this behalf as hath bene said before is preferred in priuilege This vve see by experience in diuers countries Princes of Germanye and partes of the vvorld at this daye as in Germanie vvhere among so manie Princes and so de in religiō as they be yet euerie one succedeth to the state vvherto he hath right vvythout resistaunce for his religion The examples also of her Ma. that novv is and of her sister before is euidēt Q Mary Q Elizabeth vvho being knovven to be of tvvo different inclinations in religion and the vvhole Realm deuided in opinion for the same cause yet both of them at their seueral tymes vvyth general consent of al vvere admitted to their lavvful inheritaunce excepting onlie a fevv * The Dudleys Mōsieur traytours against the former vvho vvythstood her right as also in her the right of her Ma. that is present that not for religion as appeared by their ovvn confession after but for ambition and desire of reigne Monsieur the kings brother and heire of Fraunce as all the vvorld knovveth is vvel accepted fauored and admitted for successoure of that Crovvne by al the protestantes at this day of that Countrie not vvythstanding his opinion in religion knovven to be diffeferent And I doubt not but the king of Nauarre or Prince