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A30388 The life of William Bedell D.D., Lord Bishop of Killmore in Ireland written by Gilbert Burnet. To which are subjoyned certain letters which passed betwixt Spain and England in matter of religion, concerning the general motives to the Roman obedience, between Mr. James Waddesworth ... and the said William Bedell ... Burnet, Gilbert, 1643-1715.; Bedell, William, 1571-1642. Copies of certain letters which have passed between Spain & England in matter of religion.; Wadsworth, James, 1604-1656? 1692 (1692) Wing B5831; ESTC R27239 225,602 545

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the affections those things that tended to edification ought only to be used And thought it would be hard otherwise to make stops for upon the same pretence an infinity of Rites might be brought in And the sense he had of the excesses of superstition from what he had observed during his long stay in Italy made him judge it necessary to watch carefully against the beginnings of that disease which is like a green Sickness in Religion He never used the Common Prayer in his Family for he thought it was intended to be the solemn Worship of Christians in their Publick Assemblies and that it was not so proper for private Families He was so exact an observer of Ecclesiastical Rules that he would perform no part of his Function out of his own Diocess without obtaining the Ordinaries leave for it so that being in Dublin when his Wife's Daughter was to be married to Mr. Clogy that is much more the Author of this Book than I am and they both desired to be blest by him he would not do it till he first took out a Licence for it in the Archbishop of Dublin's Consistory So far I have prosecuted the Relation of his most exemplary discharge of his Episcopal Function reserving what is more personal and particular to the end where I shall give his Character I now come to the conclusion of his life which was indeed suitable to all that had gone before But here I must open one of the bloodiest Scenes that the Sun ever shone upon and represent a Nation all covered with Blood that was in full peace under no fears nor apprehensions enjoying great plenty and under an easie yoke under no oppression in Civil matters nor persecution upon the account of Religion For the Bishops and Priests of the Roman Communion enjoyed not only an impunity but were almost as publick in the use of their Religion as others were in that which was established by Law so that they wanted nothing but Empire and a power to destroy all that differed from them And yet on a sudden this happy Land was turned to be a Field of Blood Their Bishops resolved in one particular to fulfil the Obligation of the Oath they took at their Consecration of persecuting all Hereticks to the utmost of their power and their Priests that had their breeding in Spain had brought over from thence the true Spirit of their Religion which is ever breathing cruelty together with a tincture of the Spanish temper that had appeared in the conquest of the West-Indies and so they thought a Massacre was the surest way to work and intended that the Natives of Ireland should vie with the Spaniards for what they had done in America The Conjuncture seemed favourable for the whole Isle of Britain was so imbroiled that they reckoned they should be able to master Ireland before any Forces could be sent over to check the progress of their butchery The Earl of Strafford had left Ireland some considerable time before this The Parliament of England was rising very high against the King and though the King was then gone to Scotland it was rather for a present quieting of things that he gave all up to them than that he gained them to his Service So they laid hold of this conjuncture to infuse it into the people That this was the proper time for them to recover their ancient Liberty and shake off the English Yoke and to possess themselves of those Estates that had belonged to their Ancestors And to such as had some rests of Duty to the King it was given out That what they were about was warranted by his Authority and for his service A Seal was cut from another Charter and put to a forged Commission giving warrant to what they were going about And because the King was then in Scotland they made use of a Scotch Seal They also pretended that the Parliaments of both Kingdoms being either in rebellion against the King or very near it That the English of Ireland would be generally in the interest of the English Parliament so that it was said That they could not serve the King better than by making themselves Masters in Ireland and then declaring for the King against his other rebellious Subjects These things took universally with the whole Nation and the Conspiracy was cemented by many Oaths and Sacraments and in conclusion all things were found to be so ripe that the day was set in which they should every where break out and the Castle of Dublin being then as well stored with a great Magazine which the Earl of Strafford had laid up for the Army that he intended to have carried into Scotland had not the pacification prevented it as it was weakly kept by a few careless Warders who might have been easily surprized it was resolved that they should seize on it which would have furnished them with Arms and Ammunition and have put the Metropolis and very probably the whole Island in their hands But though this was so well laid that the execution could not have mist in all humane appearance and though it was kept so secret that there was not the least suspicion of any design on foot till the Night before and then one that was among the chief of the managers of it out of kindness to an Irishman that was become a Protestant communicated the Project to him The other went and discovered it to the Lords Justices and by this means not only the Castle of Dublin was preserved but in effect Ireland was saved For in Dublin there was both a shelter for such as were stript and turned out of all they had to fly to and a place of rendezvous where they that escaped before the storm had reached to them met to consult about their preservation But though Dublin was thus secured the rest of the English and Scotch in Ireland particularly in Vlster fell into the hands of those merciless Men who reckoned it no small piece of mercy when they stript people naked and let them go with their lives But the vast numbers that were butchered by them which one of their own Writers in a Discourse that he printed some years after in order to the animating them to go on boasts to have exceeded two hundred thousand and the barbarous cruelties they used in murthering them are things of so dreadful a nature that I cannot easily go on with so dismal a Narrative but must leave it to the Historians I shall say no more of it than what concerns our Bishop It may be easily imagined how much he was struck with that fearful storm that was breaking on every hand of him though it did not yet break in upon himself There seemed to be a secret guard set about his House for though there was nothing but Fire Blood and Desolation round about him yet the Irish were so restrained as by some hidden power that they did him no harm for many Weeks His House was in no
his office that distinguished him so much from others yet he could not be prevailed on to interpose in this matter nor to stop the injust Prosecution that this good Man had fallen under for so good a Work Indeed it went further for upon the endeavours he used to convert the Irish and after he had refused to answer in the Archbishop's Court it appears that he was in some measure alienated from him which drew from the Bishop the following Answer to a Letter that he had from him Most Reverend Father my honourable good Lord THE Superscription of your Grace's Letters was most welcome unto me as bringing under your own hand the best evidence of the recovery of your health for which I did and do give hearty thanks unto God For the Contents of them as your Grace conceived They were not so pleasant But the Words of a Friend are faithful saith the Wise Man Sure they are no less painful than any other Vnkindness cuts nearer to the Heart than Malice can do I have some experience by your Grace's said Letters concerning which I have been at some debate with my self whether I should answer them with David's demand What have I now done or as the wrongs of Parents with Patience and Silence But Mr. Dean telling me That this day he is going towards you I will speak once come of it what will You write that the course I took with the Papists was generally cryed out against neither do you remember in all your life that any thing was done here by any of us at which the Professors of the Gospel did take more offence or by which the Adversaries were more confirmed in their Superstitions and Idolatry wherein you could wish that I had advised with my Brethren before I would adventure to pull down that which they have been so long a building Again What I did you know was done out of a good intention but you were assured that my project would be so quickly refuted with the present success and event that there would be no need my Friends should advise me from building such Castles in the air c. My Lord All this is a riddle to me What course I have taken with the Papists what I have done at which your Professors of the Gospel did take such offence or the Adversaries were so confirmed what it is that I have adventured to do or what piece so long a building I have pulled down what those Projects were and those Castles in the air so quickly refuted with present success as the Lords knows I know not For truly since I came to this place I have not changed one jot of my purpose or practice or course with Papists from that which I held in England or in Trinity Colledge or found I thank God any ill success but the slanders only of some persons discontented against me for other occasions Against which I cannot hope to justifie my self if your Grace will give ear to private informations But let me know I will not say my Accuser let him continue masked till God discover him but my Transgression and have place of defence and if mine Adversary write a Book against me I will hope to bear it on my Shoulder and bind it to me as a Crown For my recusation of your Court and advertisement of what I heard thereof I see they have stirred not only laughter but some coals too Your Chancellour desires me to acquit him to you That he is none of those Officers I meant I do it very willingly For I neither meant him nor any Man else But though it concerned your Grace to know what I credibly heard to be spoken concerning your Court neither as God knows did I ever think it was fit to take away the Iurisdiction from Chancellours and put it into the Bishops hands alone or so much as in a dream condemn those that think they have reason to do otherwise nor tax your Grace's Visitation Nor imagine you would account that to pertain to your reproof and take it as a wrong from me which out of my duty to God and you I thought was not to be concealed from you I beseech you pardon me this one errour Si unquam posthac For that knave whom as your Grace writes they say I did absolve I took him for one of my Flock or rather Christs for whom he shed his blood And I would have absolved Julian the Apostate under the same form Some other passages there be in your Grace's Letters which I but I will lay mine Hand upon my Mouth and craving the blessing of your prayers ever remain Your Grace's poor Brother humble servant Will. Kilmore Kilmore March 29. 1630. The malice of Mr. King's Enemies was not satiated with the spoiling him of his Benefice For often it falls out That those who have done acts of high injustice seek some excuse for what they have done by new injuries and a vexatious prosecution of the injured person designing by the noise that such repeated accusations might raise to possess the World with an Opinion of his guilt which much clamour does often produce and so to crush the person so entirely that he may never again be in a capacity to recover himself and to obtain his right but be quite sunk by that vast encrease of weight that is laid upon him But I will give the Reader a clearer view of this invidious affair from a Letter which the Bishop writ concerning it to the Earl of Strafford Right honourable my good Lord. THat which I have sometimes done willingly I do now necessarily to make my address to your Honour by writing My unfitness for conversation heretofore hath pleaded for me and now your Lordship's infirmity allows and in a sort inforces it The occasion is not my love of contention which I have committed to God or any other matter of profit but God's honour and as he is witness yours I have lately received Letters from my Lord of Canterbury whereby I perceive his Grace is informed that Mr. King whom I imployed to translate the Bible into Irish is a Man so ignorant that the Translation cannot be worthy publick use in the Church and besides obnoxious so as the Church can receive no credit from any thing that is his And his Grace adds That he is so well acquainted with your Lordship's disposition that he assures himself you would not have given away his Living had you not seen just cause for it I account my self bound to satisfie his Grace herein and desire if I may be so happy to do it by satisfying you I do subscribe to his Grace's assured perswasion that your Lordship had you not conceived Mr. King to be such as he writes would not have given away his Living But my Lord the greatest wisest and justest Men do and must take many things upon the information of others who themselves are Men and may sometimes out of weakness or some other cause be deceived Touching
Letter from him requiring answer to the former from Madrid in Spain April 14. 1619. p. 282. 3. The Answer to the last Letter Dated Aug. 5. 1619. p. 284. 4. A Letter from Mr. Waddesworth upon the receipt of the former From Madrid dated Octob. 28. 1619. received May 23. 1620. p. 291. 5. The Answer to the last Letter June 15. 1620. p. 294. 6. A Letter from Mr. Waddesworth from Madrid June 8. 1620. p. 298 7. A Letter of Mr. Dr. Halls sent to Mr. Waddesworth and returned into England with his Marginal Notes p. 300. 8. A Letter returning it inclosed to Mr. Dr. Hall p. 304. 9. A Letter sent to Mr. Waddesworth together with the Examination of his Motives Octob. 22. 1620. p. 307. 10. The Examination of the Motives in the first Letter p. 308. The Heads of the Motives reduced unto twelve Chapters answering unto the like Figures in the Margent of the first of Mr. Waddesworth's Letters OF the Preamble The titles Catholick Papist Traytor Idolater The uniformity of Faith in Protestant Religion p. 311. Of the contrariety of Sects pretended to be amongst Reformers Their differences how matters of Faith Of each pretending Scripture and the Holy Ghost p. 319. Of the want of a humane external infallible Iudge and Interpreter The Objections answered First That Scriptures are oft matter of Controversie Secondly That they are the Law and Rule Thirdly That Princes are no Iudges Fourthly Nor a whole Council of Reformers The Pope's being the Iudge and Interpreter overthrown by Reasons And by his palpable miss-in●erpreting the Scriptures in his Decretals The stile of his Court His Breves about the Oath of Allegeance p. 328. Of the state of the Church of England and whether it may be reconciled with Rome Whether the Pope be Antichrist PAULO V. VICE-DEO OUR LORD GOD THE POPE The Relation de moderandis titulis with the issue of it p. 358. Of the safeness to joyn to the Roman being confessed a true Church by her Opposites Mr. Wotton's perversion printed at Venice The Badge of Christs Sheep p. 372. Of fraud and corruption in alledging Councils Fathers and Doctors The falsifications imputed to Morney Bishop Jewel Mr. Fox Tyndals Testament Parsons four Falshoods in seven Lines A tast of the Forgeries of the Papacy In the antient Popes Epistles Constantines Donation Gratian The Schoolmen and Breviaries by the complaint of the Venetian Divines The Father 's not untoucht Nor the Hebrew Text. p. 384. Of the Armies of evident Witnesses for the Romanists Whence it seems so to the unexpert Souldier The Censure of the Centurists touching the Doctrine of the Antients Danaeus of S. Augustines opinion touching Purgatory An instance or two of Imposture in wresting Tertullian Cyprian Augustine p. 409. Of the Invisibility of the Church said to be an Evasion of Protestants The Promises made to the Church and her glorious Titles how they are verified out of S. Augustine falsly applyed to the whole Visible Church or Representative or the Pope p. 422. Of lack of Vniformity in matters of Faith in all Ages and Places What matters of Faith the Church holds uniformly and so the Protestants Of Wickliff and Hus c. whether they were Martyrs p. 426. Of the original of Reformation in Luther Calvin Scotland England Whether King Henry the Eighth were a good Head of the Church Of the Reformers in France and Holland The original growth and supporting of the Popes Monarchy considered p. 429. Of lack of Succession Bishops true Ordinations Orders Priesthood The fabulous Ordination at the Nags-Head examined The Statute 8 Elizabeth Bonners slighting the first Parliament and Dr. Bancrofts answer to Mr. Alablaster The Form of Priesthood enquired of p. 453. Of the Conclusion Master Waddesworth's Agonies and Protestation The Protestation and Resolution of the Author and conceipt of Mr. Waddesworth and his accompt p. 481. THE COPIES OF Certain LETTERS Which have passed between SPAIN and ENGLAND In matter of RELIGION Salutem in Crucifixo To the Worshipful my good Friend Mr. William Bedell c. Mr. Bedell MY very loving Friend After the old plain fashion I salute you heartily without any new fine complements or affected Phrases And by my inquiry understanding of this Bearer that after your being at Venice you had passed to Constantinople and were returned to S. Edmundsbury in safety and with health I was exceeding glad thereof for I wish you well as to my self and he telling me further that to morrow God willing he was to depart from hence to imbark for England and offering me to deliver my Letters if I would write unto you I could not omit by these hasty scribled lines to signifie unto you the continuance of my sincere love never to be blotted out of my breast if you kill it not with unkindness like Mr. Ioseph Hall neither by distance of place nor success of time nor difference of Religion For contrary to the slanders raised against all because of the offences committed by some we are not taught by our Catholick Religion either to diminish our natural obligation to our native Country or to alter our moral affection to our former friends And although for my change becoming Catholick I did expect of some Revilers to be termed rather than proved an Apostata yet I never looked for such terms from Mr. Hall whom I esteemed either my Friend or a modester Man whose flanting Epistle I have not answered because I would not foil my Hands with a poetical Railer more full with froth of Words than substance of Matter and of whom according to his beginning I could not expect any sound Arguments but vain Flourishes and so much I pray let him know from me if you please Unto your self my good Friend who do understand better than Mr. Hall what the Doctors in Schools do account Apostasie and how it is more and worse than Heresie I do refer both him and my self whether I might not more probably call him Heretick than he term me at the first dash Apostata But I would abstain from such biting Satyrs And if he or any other will needs fasten upon me such bitter terms let them first prove that In all points of Faith I have fallen totally from Christian Religion as did Iulian the Apostata For so is Apostasie described and differenced from Heresie Apostasia est error hominis baptizati contrarius Fidei Catholiae ex toto and Haeresis est error pertinax hominis baptizati contrarius Fidei Catholicae ex parte So that he should have shewed first my errors in matters of Faith not any error in other Questions but in decreed matters of Faith as Protestants use to say necessary to Salvation Secondly That such errors were maintained with obstinate pertinacy and pertinacy is where such errors are defended against the consent and determination of the Catholick Church and also knowing that the whole Church teacheth the contrary to such opinions yet
sith you required a full Answer and the delay it self had need to bring you some interest for the forbearance And because you mention the vehemency of discreet Lawyers although methinks we are rather the Clients themselves that contend since our Faith is our own and our best Freehold let me entreat of you this ingenuity which I protest in the sight of God I bring my self Let us not make head against evident Reason for our own credit or fashion and factions sake as Lawyers sometimes are wont Neither let us think we lose the Victory when Truth overcomes We shall have part of it rather and the better part since errour the common enemy to us both is to us more dangerous For Truth is secure and impregnable we if our Errour be not conquered must remain Servants to corruption It is the first Praise saith S. Augustine to hold the true Opinion the next to forsake the false And surely that is no hard mastery to do when both are set before us if we will not be either retchless or obstinate From both which our Lord of his mercy evermore help us and bring us to his everlasting Kingdom Amen Your very loving Brother W. Bedell Horningshearth Octob. 22. 1620. THE COPIES OF Certain Letters c. Salutem in Christo Iesu. CHAP. I. Of the Preamble The Titles Catholick Papist Traytor Idolater SIR I Do first return you hearty thanks for the truth and constancy of your love and those best effects of it your wishing me as well as to your self and rejoycing in my safe return out of Italy For indeed further I was not though reported to have been both at Constantinople and Ierusalem by reason of the nearness of my name to one Mr. William Bidulph the Minister of our Merchants at Aleppo who visited both those places I thank you also that your ancient love towards me hath to use that Word of the Apostle now flourished again in that after so many Years you have found opportunity to accomplish your promise of writing to me though not as ye undertook of the state of Religion there yet which I confess I no less desired the Motives of the forsaking that you had professed here Whereof since it hath pleased you as ye write now to give me an account and by me to Mr. Dr. Hall with some expectation also as it appears of reply from one of us I will use the liberty which you give me and as directly as I can for the matter and in Christian terms for the manner shew you mine opinion of them wherein I shall endeavour to observe that Precept of the Apostle 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 whether it be to be interpreted loving sincerely or seeking truth lovingly Neither soothing untruth for the dearness of your person nor breaking charity for diversity of Opinion With this entrance my loving Friend and if you refuse not that old Catholick name my dear Brother I come to your Letter Wherein though I might well let pass that part which concerns your quarrel with Mr. Dr. Hall with aetatem habet yet thus much out of the common presumption of charity which thinks not evil give me leave to say for him I am verily perswaded he never meant to charge you with Apostasie in so horrible a sense as you count viz. A total falling from Christian Religion like that of Julian an obstinate pertinacy in denying the Principles of the Faith necessary to salvation or a renouncing your Baptism The term Apostasie as you know doth not always sound so hainously A Monk forsaking his Order or a Clerk his Habit is in the Decretals stiled an Apostata Granatensis saith not untruly That every deadly sin is a kind of Apostasie The Apostle S. Paul speaking of Antichrists time saith There must come an Apostasie before Christs second coming and how this shall be he shews elsewhere Men shall give heed to spirits of Error and Doctrines of Devils and such as speak falshood in hypocrisie Whereby it seems that Antichrist himself shall not professedly renounce Christ and his Baptism His Kingdom is a mystery of iniquity a revolt therefore not from the outward profession but inward sincerity and power of the Gospel This kind of Apostasie might be that which Mr. Hall was sorry to find in you whom he thought fallen from the Truth though not in the Principles of Christian Doctrine yet in sundry Conclusions which the reformed Churches truly out of them maintain He remembred our common education in the same Colledge our common Oath against Popery our common Calling to the same sacred Function of the Ministery he could not imagine upon what reasons you should reverse these beginnings And certainly how weighty and sufficient soever they be we are not taught by our Catholick Religion to revenge our selves and render reproach for reproach with personal terms much less to debase and avile the excellent Gifts of God as is Poesie the honour of David and Solomon by the Testimony of the Holy Ghost himself These courses are forbidden us when we are railed upon and calumniated how much more when as S. Peter speaks We are beaten for our faults as it falls out in your case if these Motives of yours be weak and insufficient which we shall anon consider You say you are become Catholick Were you not then so before The Creed whereinto you were baptized is it not the Catholick Faith The conclusion certes of Athanasius's Creed which is but a declaration thereof saith Haec est Fides Catholica Or is not he a Catholick that holds the Catholick Faith That which was once answered touching the present Church of England to one in a Stationers Shop in Venice that would needs know what was the difference betwixt us and the Catholicks It was told him none for we accounted our selves good Catholicks When he unwilling to be put off in his answer for lack of due form in his Question pressed to know what was the difference betwixt us and them there He was answered This That we believed the Catholick Faith contained in the Creed but did not believe the Thirteenth Article which the Pope had put to it When he knew not of any such Article the Extravagance of Pope Boniface was brought where he defines it to be altogether of necessity to salva●●on to every humane creature to be under the Bishop of Rome This thirteenth Article of the thirteenth Apostle good Mr. Waddesworth it seems you have learned and so are become as some now speak and write Catholick Roman That is in true interpretation Vniversal-particular which because they cannot be equalled the one restraining and cutting off from the other take heed that by straitning your Faith to Rome you have not altered it and by becoming Roman left off to be Catholick Thus if you say our Ancestors were all till of late Years Excuse me Sir whether you call our Ancestors the first Christian Inhabitants of this Isle or the ancient Christians of the Primitive Church neither those
Calvinists and these with Zuinglians who were of the first Protestants and differ little or nothing from those whom ye call Lutherans Whereof this may be a sensible proof that commonly their Adversaries and your self after call them by the same name The Protestant Churches in Germany France Holland and Geneva And Pope Leo the Tenth in his Condemnatory Bull and likewise Charles the Fifth in his Imperial Edict do reflect wholly upon Luther and his Followers without any mention of the other at all To conclude this matter as it is undoubtedly a sign of a good mind to dislike contention and diversities of Opinions and it may have pardon to apprehend sometime more than there is indeed like to the melancholick old Man in the Comedy whose suspicion makes him to multiply on this manner Qui mihi intromisisti in aedes quingentos coquos so to muster up empty names without any real difference as Puritans Cartwrightists Brownists to make differences in a few Opinions about Government or Sacraments Sects and Contrarieties hath not the character of ingenuous and sincere dealing which from you Mr. Waddesworth I did and do expect But some of these damn each other avouching their Positions to be matters of Faith not School Questions of Opinion only Here indeed there is fault on all sides in this Age that we cannot be content with the bounds which the ancient Church hath set but every private Opinion must be straightways an Article of Faith Every decision of a Pope every Decree of a Council And then as Men are easily enamoured of their own conceits and as Gerson wisely applies that of the Poet Qui amant sibi somnia fingunt as if the very marrow of Religion consisted in those Points those that think otherwise are Hereticks and in state of Damnation The Roman Faction goes further to Fire and Faggot and all exquisite Torments as if those things that make against the Papacy were more severely to be punished than the Blasphemies of the Jews or Mahometism it self I do not excuse the Reformers of this bitterness wherein after your departure out of England my nameless Adversary that undertook Mr. Alablasters quarrel giving me over in three of his demands ran riot in the first about this point of opposition among our selves and raked together all the vehement speeches of Luther and some of his Followers against those whom they call the Sacramentaries Why who will undertake to defend Luthers Speeches or all that falls from contentious Pens But even out of those Testimonies which himself brings for the worst that he could on the contrary part it appears this eagerness is not mutual And in truth both we in England and the Helvetians and French do maintain a brotherly affection towards them of Saxony how spitefully soever some of them write of us And even of those whom he calls Lutherans as I perceived while I was at Norimberg the moderater sort are alike affected towards us But as touching the avouching our Opinions to be matters of Faith which Exception is common to you with him that which I should have answered him if I had found in him any thing but spite and scorn I will say now to you Verily in some sort even the least conclusions in Divinity are matters of Faith For both Faith hath to do with them and they are fetched by Discourse from the first Principles holden by Faith whence our whole Religion is called by S. Iude The Faith once delivered to the Saints And the least error in them by consequence overthrows the same Principles whence they are deduced That makes some to move attention in their Readers to say The questions are not about small matters but of the principal Articles of Religion even about the Foundation As Curaeus whom he cites saith the question is of two Articles of Faith First of that which teacheth that in Christ two natures are united Secondly of the Article He ascended into Heaven Why do not both sides agree to these Yes But one side fetches Arguments against ubiquitie from these places and thereupon saith the question is about these Articles perhaps also chargeth the other to deny them He cites Pappus Writing thus Agitur inter nos de Omnipotentia Dei c. The controversie betwixt us is about the Omnipotency of God The personal Vnion of the two natures in Christ. The communication of Properties The glorious body of our Saviour c. Lo again every place of Argument or defence is made the matter of Controversie Out of these and such like Confessions on either side my nameless Adversary will needs inforce with great pomp and triumph What think ye That such sanctified Men this is his scoffing Language go not together by the Ears for Moon-shine in the Water Again That all those Myrmidonian Fights and bloody Encounters be not de lanâ Caprinâ aut de umbrâ Asini. Why who said they were I will set down here my Words that you may judge of the Conscience of this Man and have withal the substance of my Answer to this Objection And what if some outragious Spirits on each side transported with passion in their oppositions have used most bitter and unbeseeming speeches to their Adversaries and sometimes have shewed each other small humanity are you so simple as not to discern between the choler of some few opinionate Men and the consequence of their Opinions Have you forgotten S. Hierome and Ruffinus deadly fo-hood which was rung over the World or Epiphanius and Chrysostomes or Victors and the Greek Bishops which proceeded so far about a trifle that he excommunicated them which is little less I think than to condemn to the Pit of Hell And yet if I should put it to your judgment I am perswaded you would grant they held all truth necessary to salvation For you must remember Pope Boniface had not yet coyned the new Article of the Faith that I mentioned before What shall I speak of S. Paul and Barnabas which grew to such bitterness and that about a very little question of conveniency that though they were sent out together by the Holy Ghost they brake off company These be humane passions which wisdom would we should pity when they grow to such extremities upon so small cause rather than from their outrage to gather there is just cause to encrease Do we not see that even natural Brethren do sometimes defie one another and use each other with less respect than strangers Now from hence would you conclude they be not Brethren and hearten them on and say to the one that sith his half Brother is not so near to him as he with whom he is thus at odds he must fall out worse with him You should well so deserve the hate of God for a make-bate between brethren These were all my Words set down in answer to his objecting our own contentions and condemning each other to prove that therefore we could not hold continuity with the ancient Church of England