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A93704	A warning-piece discharged: or, Certain intelligence communicated to His Excellencie the Lord General Cromvvel, with all the real and cordial officers and souldiers under his command. Wherein the present tempers of each society of people in this Commonwealth, under each degree or notion whatsoever, are inserted and controverted, in relation to the election of a new representative. As also, a brief and full parallel betwixt the history of Israel and our late and present series of affairs. In which simile, our present general is compar'd with Moses, as he was their deliverer, judge, and general. By John Spittlehouse, a late member of the Army.	Spittlehouse, John.	1653 (1653)	Wing S5016; Thomason E697_11; ESTC R203634	20,397	27

of the Lord of Hosts be it spoken so that by the good hand of God upon him he hath born us up as it were upon the wings of an Eagle and hath been unto us as the good shepherd that feedeth his flock in green pastures by the waters of comfort Even he I say hath under God been the chief man that hath with the aforesaid Moses taken us from under the power of our Egyptian Pharaoh and from the iron furnace of Tyrannie and from the Brick-kilns of Papacy Prelacy Presbytery those three dayes journey to serve the Lord in our present wilderness-condition he it is I say c. that hath brought destruction upon our Pharaoh and all his host and that hath led us through the red sea of a bloody war which we have by Providence passed and in which our aforesaid Pharaoh and all his host have been destroyed He it is I say that with David hath pluckt us out of the claws and paws of the Lyon and the Bear viz from tyranny and spritual idolatry which we were subject unto as also from the late bosome-vipers which with Paul he hath shaked off his hand into the fire where they have perished with the faggot out of which they arose which neither he nor we did once think there had been such danger in He it is that hath conquered our Sihon King of the Amorites and Og the King of Bashan viz Charles the first as King of England Scotland and Ireland and Charles the second as King of Scotland Object To what purpose have you cull'd out these expressions Answ To the end all the cordial members of this Common-wealth may henceforth look upon our present General as the aforesaid Israelites did upon Moses Object As how Resp As the chief Ruler appointed by God over us Obj. Moses did not usurp Authority over his brethren Resp Pray shew me where or when Moses received either Commission or Honour from the aforesaid people of Israel either as he was their Deliverer General or Judge Object It must needs be acknowledged that Moses received not his Commission from the Commonwealth of Israel in any of the aforesaid respects but he received the same immediately from God which the present General hath not Resp From whom hath our present General the Authority and Power he doth exercise hath he it from Man or from God Object We cannot say he hath he it from Man for that he cannot have until it be given him by a new Representative Resp If he have it not from Man as you have truly said he hath not then it must consequently follow that he hath it from God viz. by the hand of Providence as had Moses so that as I said before we are now put into the same estate and condition with the aforesaid Israelites in their wilderness-condition and if so can we say that the people of Israel did assume such a power unto themselves as to turn Moses out of that condition the Lord had so placed him in as you now thirst to do Did any of them I say unless that enviovs Corah Dathan and Abiram with their accomplices ever attempt such Pride Arrogancie as in the least to question his then-Power and Authority over them and which the Lord had been pleased to bestow upon him And what was the reward the Lord gave to the aforesaid persons for such their insolence Read that story therefore consider it seriously I beseech you lest you be found such persons as are risen up out of that pit which swallowed them up for such their presumption or lest the heavie wrath of God fall upon you as it did upon the foresaid Corah his accomplices Again let the several other murmurings of the like ingrateful people be a warning to you lest the like punishment befal you lest the Lords destroying Angel be sent amongst you for be assured the Lords hand is not shortned in point of Justice more then in point of Mercy for the like sins will certainly produce the like punishments Obj. To whom should we appeal in case of injustice c. if the General so consequently the Army assume still the Supreme Power Authority of the Nation unto themselvs as at present they do Resp Have you any cause to complain of his or their present carriage towards you since they so took the same upon them if not what cause have you to complain either of him or them Obj. He hath not dealt justly with us in that hee hath usurped our interest in the supream power it being as properly our birth-right as his own in that we have been found as faithfull and real throughout the whole Series of Affaires as himself Resp Have you been more to him then the Israelites were to Moses did not they as well aid and assist Moses in that enterprize as you have the present General did Moses fight the Amalekites alone did not the Israelites assist him therein And if so what priviledge ought you to claime in the supream power more then they Consider seriously with your selves I beseech you and see what you do in effect say less then the aforesaid Corah c. viz. Oliver Cromwell thou hast taken too much upon thee inasmuch as we ought to be equal sharers with thee the Councel which thou hast chosen of thy own head without our consent or approbation who are as holy as much in favour with God as thy self it being our birth-right as well as thine own inasmuch as we have engaged our all as well as thee or those thou hast taken unto thee as thy assistants What if some of us were but the keepers of the stuff whilst you fought the field ought not we to have an equall share of the spoil as well as your selves viz. of all the benefits that have accrued by the victories you have attained besides have not many of us hazarded our lives as well as your selvs in the high places of the field Again what legal power hast thou of thy self to do as thou dost or hast done since the death of the late King was not all the Regall power cut off from the power from which thou hadst thy power by that one blow which separated his head from his body who had a just right after that blow to give thee a Commission or what Commission hast thou for the present since thy late dissolution of the Parliament if thou hast who gave it thee or when was it given thee hast thou not put thy self in possession of all the power of this Commonwealth meerly by thy strong arm and long sword what then is this thou hast thus taken upon thee except thou intendest to make thy self altogether a Prince or King over us Numb 16. 13. Resp Hearken and consider O ye stupid and ingrateful people Are not these your present thoughts against the General And if so hath he deserved them at your hands Have you been like minded heretofore Have your hearts

valor of the other but only that I would single him forth as the daughters of Israel did David from Saul in which sense I am confident I may truly ascribe him his ten thousand for the others thousand For besides all his memorable victories as in his conquest of Ireland and Scotland in general had not he the chief hand in all the former and latter ones in England Where can you almost name any one considerable victory where he bore not the Bell from all the field besides for the truth where of I appeal as aforesaid in that I abhor to flatter the man as much as he can to be flattered but meerly as there is a constraint upon mee in relation to that I have taken upon me to make good viz. That our present General ought to be esteemed the same to us as Moses to the Israelites as he was their Deliverer Judge and General Object We do acknowledg that God hath made him very instrumental in turning of the great wheel of Providence but not to be compared with Moses for he was immediately sent from God with direction both what he was to say and do before his brethren the Israelites as also in the sight of Pharoah King of Egypt Answ Pray shew me where the Lord did acquaint Moses beforehand with any more then three signes of all which he was to shew before the aforesaid persons which if you cannot then it must needs follow that Moses himself was led as much in the dark in the management of that great transaction as our present General hath been in that which hath passed through his hands during the whole Series of the war and the counter-change that hath happened therein whether in relation to Church or State Object It is cleer that the Lord told Moses that he intended to smite Egypt with all his wonders Resp But did he particularize any more then three can you conceive that Moses did plainly know of the plague of Frogs before the plague of turning the water into blood was over Or of the plague of Lice before the plague of Frogs was over Or of the plague of Flies before the plague of Lice was over Or of the murrain of Beasts before the plague of Flies was over And so consequently of all the insuing plagues Again after the death of the first born can it be in reason imagined that Moses knew he was to divide the Sea when they were pursued by Pharoah or that he had knowledge thereof untill he had sent up his ejaculatory prayers to heaven for a speedy deliverance from the imminent danger they were then in Exod. 14. 15. Durst he advance forward untill the Lord commanded him was it not in his minde to have them stand still yea did he not command them so to do Object Doubtless Moses would not have commanded them to stand still but that he had some fore-knowledge that the Lord would deliver them as the following words of that verse do declare for he doth not only bid them stand still but biddeth them that they should not fear and they should see the salvation of the Lord which he would shew unto them that day for saith he the Egyptians which ye have seen to day ye shall see them again no more for ever The Lord will fight for you saith he and ye shall hold your peace Resp All that can be collected from that his expression is that the Lord had in some small measure given him satisfaction that he would help them in that their perplexity that he that had brought them so far would not now leave them or forsake them but that he would work some wonderful deliverance for them But what it was or how it should be effected certainly he did not know For had Moses known the manner of their deliverance he would not have bid them stand still but rather have bid them march forwards which he did not do untill the Lord had so ordered him as also what he was to do and what should be the effect thereof Again after that their miraculous deliverance who can conceive that Moses knew either how he should either feed or cloath so great a multitude for the space of forty years in the wilderness Again was he not constrained to cry unto the Lord at Marah where the water was so bitter that they could not drink it did he then know how to sweeten the same until he was shewed a tree which should effect it Again when they wanted bread did Moses know beforehand how to furnish them untill the Lord had told him he would rain them down bread from heaven as also in relation to flesh Again when they wanted water at Rephidim Chap. 17. did Moses know before-hand what to do in that case no certainly for then he would not have concealed the same so long as he did viz untill he had been like to have been stoned by the people but contrariwise it is manifest that he was again necessitated to cry unto the Lord and to ask him what he should do in that great strait And is it not there said that the Lord directed him after he had so prayed what he should do Quest What will you infer from what you have said Resp That Moses was altogether as ignorant of Gods intended proceedings in that enterprise he had then in hand as our present General hath been in the management of those things he hath been carried forth to do which I am confident hath been far beyond his first thoughts or imaginations Yea I do verily believe that had our present General known before-hand the several troubles and hardships he hath passed he would have been as hardly perswaded to have undertook the same as Moses in the case aforesaid he would not easily have been perswaded to have purchased his honor at so dear a rate especially had he known he should have been envied for such his honor being so obtained So that the Lord hath been most evidently seen in carrying forth our present General through all the difficulties wherein many have formerly fainted lagged because they could not see to the end of the Lords intentions in his great work which he hath done since they left off and is yet to do which thing hath also been the cause of all the murmurings at the apparent hand of Providence in several particulars as at the expulsion of the 11 Members the second purge of the Parliament the bringing of the King to justice and now the late dissolution of the Parliament And therefore under God we are the most ingaged to the present General of all the men in the Nation because the Lord hath every way fitted him with the strength courage and valor of the aforesaid Moses in that I say it hath not been in the least abated but hath rather been renewed as the Eagle at the casting of her bill viz. at every of the aforesaid changes notwithstanding the several desertions and murmurings as aforesaid to the praise

been formerly possest with such prejudices towards him whilst ye were under the Egyptian Pharaoh whilst ye were suffering in the aforesaid Iron-furnace or labouring in the aforesaid Brick-kilns whilst he was chiefly instrumental in working all the Miracles upon Pharaoh and all his servants and host whilst he turned their Babylonish sun of Monarchy into darkness their moon of Church-Government into blood whilst he plucked their stars of Honor from their Orbs and their planets from their Spheres whilst he was the instrument of God to strike thorow Kings in the day of his wrath whilst he was as Judge amongst the Heathen whilst he filled the places where he came with dead bodies whilst he wounded the heads over many countries whilst he trod upon the Lion and the Dragon whilst he trod the young Lion and Dragon under his feet viz. Charles 1. and Prelacie and Charles 2. and Presbytery whilst he brought you thorow the aforesaid Red-sea of blood whilst he went thorow the many straits and hardships in England Ireland and Scotland whilst he was put to make his several addresses unto God by prayer supplication in his many great straits and hardships was it so with you I say during those times Nay was he not contrarywise looked upon by you as a Prince and Deliverer indeed Did not you then court him at every turn with congratulatory Petitions magnifying him beyond what I am confident he desired from you And is the case now so altered with you How is it I say that you can harbour the least jealousie of such a Noble person who hath not spared to venter his dearest blood to bring you into the condition you are in and which you so much desired Consider seriously whether you have not just cause to repent of such your fond imaginations as to have the least symptome of an evil conjecture of such a right worthy Patriot What can such your vanity be compared unto except with the wanton carriage of the aforesaid Israelites who when the aforesaid Moses had put them into a condition of fulness they presently waxed fat and Jesurun-like kicked against the Lord and his servant Moses And what is the present General that you should murmur against him is not your murmuring against God who hath so honored him in the midst of you as your eyes have seen yea hath it not for a long season been your daily complaint that he was the only means of obstructing the work of God in that he had all the power in his hands might do what he would were you not then offended he did not put his power in execution as by displacing such as were then in present power and would not manage the same as you thought they ought and might have done And are you now angry with him that he hath done according to such your desires Object He might and ought to have acquainted us before he had done it and not to have done it so rashly upon his own accord without our privity and consent in the least Resp Were you not in such haste for the execution thereof as that you seemed to think every day a year until it should be done witness all your several meetings at B. F. and elsewhere to hasten the execution thereof and were you not by so doing in a great measure made agents in the same viz. by your many invocations to God that he would give them courage and boldness whom you deem'd fit instruments to accomplish the same but it seemeth your fingers would be dabling in every dish being neither well fasting nor full Hath not the honest man think you somewhat to do with you that he is thus necessitated to take himself off from what he might otherwise have done by this time to publish declaration after declaration to give you satisfaction as to that he hath done for otherwise what reason hath the conqueror to court the conquered into obedience Are they to be looked upon in any other qualification viz. in the condition they are in then the mixed multitude that came along with the people of God out of Egypt Such as are indeed in the Common-wealth but not properly of the Common-wealth Object We look upon him at present as a very honest and cordial man but such a place of singular eminency as he hath now voluntarily taken upon him will be a very great temptation unto him for experience hath taught that those that were sometimes famous for their Countrie as the Earle of Strafford whilst Sir Tho. Wentworth whom when once poisoned with the aforesaid delicious bait of honor became presently as bad as ever he was before good c. Resp And what of that must therefore the Government lye destitute of governors because good men are subject to become evil by such-like advancements or would you therefore have no good persons to undertake the present burthens of the Nation Again what degree of honor doth the honest man desire more then he hath formerly had from you Nay I am confident would you call him Mr. Crumwel or Oliver Crumwel Esquire he would not be offended with you Again suppose this thrice-Noble Gentleman as he hath been the chief instrument under God of subduing or conquering 1 England 2 Ireland and 3 Scotland and hath now out of his deep affection towards the publick good so courteously taken your burthens upon his own shoulders should have refused so to have done after he had dissolved the late Parliament c. what course would you have taken for the management of the same Object Had he and the other secret Manigers of the aforesaid Action made us acquainted with what they intended to doe wee could then have prepared a new Representative against those then in present Power had gone out Respon Indeed had they done so they had shewed themselves very excellent Statesmen indeed O that Men are so stupid to speake so absurdly and ridiculously was it not cleare that the Actors for recruting a new Representative was driving it on as furiously as Jehu his Chariot which when once finished and directions sent for calling such persons whom they intended unto them had it then been a fit time thinke you for the Generall to have published those his intentions to all the world viz. as that on such a day he intended to dissolve the present Parliament c. I wonder any wise Men can have such fond imaginations for by so doing you had been voted traytors every Man of you before you could have accomplished your designe and what would have been the event of such an enterprise if not another warre I know not In as much as they had so linked the Rabi Priests unto them by their continuation of their tythes and the Lordly power they had given them to choose Pastors as they call them as that doubtles they would not onely have fitted them with fit Members for their supply but also have blowne the bellows of dissention in every Pulpit by magnifying the

one and nihilating the other untill they had kindled another flame in the bowels of this Common-wealth which how easily they might have done amongst so much combustible matter I leave to all rationall Men to judge Object Hee needed not to have done it so publickly as you speak of but privately to some few persons Respon And must not those persons have published it privately to others untill all the reall party had been acquainted therewith for why should not all have been made privie thereunto as well as some and that through England Scotland and Ireland For if not all why any but such as must of necessitie which was accordingly done And therefore without dispute it was the onely wise course that could have been taken had Seneca himselfe been living and had had a hand therein Againe Suppose they had made you privie to such their designe what sort of persons would you have made choice of for the Management of the aforesaid imployment Object Such as wee were confident are both able and faithfull Men to the interest of the Common-wealth Respon Doth not this your Answer secretly imply that the persons now in present Power are neither faithfull nor able And if such be your construction of them are they not very much beholden to you for such an Opinion after such their so long and ample demonstrations of their reall and Cordiall affections towards you but I hope better of you though I thus speake Againe Did you judge them able and faithfull why should you not rather encourage them to goe forwards then in the least to dishearten them for can you have fitter persons then able and faithfull Men to governe you Object Wee acknowledge we cannot but by suffering such persons to govern us as at present wee shall for ever be cut out of all our birth-rights for not onely this Generall but all that shall succeed him will claime the like priviledge ad infinitum Respon Can you say the present Generall claimeth more power and authoritie then did Moses and was Moses reputed by the Israelites as their King No surely for such was the envious expressions and suggestions of Corah and his Rebellious Accomplices for otherwise hee was onely esteemed as a Deliverer Captain and Judge Object Had he not the same power as hath a King Respon No for wee see there was a vast difference betwixt the Judges and Kings of Israel as appeares by 1 Sam. Cap. 8. For Samuel telleth the Israelites there of no old matter or manner of Government when he describeth unto them the nature and qualities of the Kings of the Nations whom the said Israelites then thirsted to imitate By which discourse it appeareth that the Judge did not exact one tenth of the State or Power which the said Kings claimed as their Prerogative Royall Which the said Israelites found to their cost in Solomons dayes as by wofull experience they told his sonne Rehoboam 2 Chro. Cap. 10. Object Wherein consisted the chiefe difference betwixt Moses and a King Respon The Prophet Samuel telleth you in the aforesaid Chapter where when the Israelites had desired a King to judge them Mark Like all the Nations viz. the Heathen Which must unavoydably be the Consequent for if Israel was the onely peculiar people of God then all the rest of the Nations must needs be Heathens at that time when them words were spoken the partition wall not being then broken downe Object But wherein lay their sin in desiring of a King like all the Nations Respond In that by such their desires they did in effect forsake God and become Heathen as 1. In desiring a King like all the Nations was plainly to betake themselves to be governed by the Lawes of the Nations and so consequently in a desperate manner to forsake the Law of God and so consequently God himselfe as in 1 Sam. 8. 7. 10. 19. And hence it was that the Lord to signifie his detestation to such their desires inforceth them by his judgements to confesse and that before their King that they had added to all their sinnes this evill to aske them a King Cap. 12. 19. 2. The evill of having a King like all the Nations was to put themselvs into the condition of the Nations who were accustomed to attribute all their victories deliverances to their Kings as the Scriptures doe plentifully declare and that without ascribing them in the least to providence And hence it was that when they had a King the Lord doth upbraid them for their Idolatrous humor to Monarchie as in Hosea 13. where he useth these expressions to the aforesaid Israelites viz. When Ephraim saith he spake trembling he exalted himselfe in Israel but when he offended in Baal he dyed c. Yet saith he I am the Lord thy God from the Land of Aegypt and thou shalt know no God but mee for there is no Saviour besides mee I did know thee in the wildernesse in the land of great drought According to their pasture so were they filled they were filled and their hearts were exalted therefore have they forgot mee Therefore will I be unto them as a Lyon as a Leopard by the way will I observe them I will meet them as a Bear that is bereaved of her whelpes and will rent the cowle of their heart and there will I devoure them like a Lyon the wild beasts shall tear them O Israel thou hast destroyed thy selfe but I will be thy help I will be thy King where is any other that may save thee in all thy Cities And thy Judges of whom thou saidst Give mee a King and Princes I gave thee a King in mine anger and took him away in my wrath For the fuller illustration of this read 1 Sam. 8 15. 16 Chapters so that Israel is chiefly said to have undone it selfe by asking a King to judge them like all the Nations or Heathen 3. The evill of having a King c. was to change them from being the people of God to become Heathens as to imitate them in all their licentious courses for certainly a King like unto the Nations must needs Act in all things according to the Kings of the Nations Or otherwise hee degenerateth from being such a King for to be like them is by imitating them and not otherwise And commonly where such a King is there will be like Subjects without the great restraining power of God to prevent the same So that the good Kings of Judah acted rather like Judges then Kings as by making the Lawes of God the rule and square of all their actions Whereas they that ruled as did the Kings of the Nations viz. according to Samuels description as aforesaid were all Idolaters as were the Kings of the Nations Yea it is evident that many of them indeavoured as farre as in them lay to out-strip the Heathens in wickednesse instance Manasseh c. So that as I said before the consequence of desiring to be ruled by Kings is