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A84661 The French Lucian made English; By J.D. Esq; Nouveaux dialogues des morts. Part 1. English. Fontenelle, M. de (Bernard Le Bovier), 1657-1757.; Dryden, John, 1631-1700, attibuted name.; Davies, John, 1625-1693, attributed name. 1693 (1693) Wing F1412C; ESTC R202364 37,387 157

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other men call themselves wise persons Cab. Ah! What is it you say All men point at one another with their finger and Nature has very judiciously setled that Order The Solitary Man laughs at the Courtier but to be even with him he goes not to trouble him at Court The Courtier laughs at the Solitary Man but he lets him alone in quiet in his retirement If there were ever a side to be taken that were known to be the only reasonable side every one would embrace that side and there would be too much crowding it is better to be divided into several little Troops that embroil not one another because some laugh at what the other do Brand. As dead as you are I find you are a great fool with a●● your Arguments you are not well recovered yet of the Drenc● was given you Cab. And this is the Idea whic● a fool must always conceive of another True Wisdom would too much singularize those enjo●ed her but the Opinion of Wi●dom renders all men equal a●● does no less satisfie them The Fifth Dialogue Agnes Sorel Roxelana Agnes Sorel TO tell you the truth I do not understand your Turkish Gallantry The Beauties of the Seraglio have a Lover that need only say My Will is so they never taste of the pleasure of Resistance and they never afford him the pleasure of Victory that is to say that the Sultans and their Sultanesses do never enjoy the delights of Love Roxelana What will you have the Turkish Emperors who are strangely jealous of their Authority have upon Reasons of Policy neglected those so refined delights of Love They were afraid that such Beauties as did not absolutely depend upon them would assume too great a power over their mind and meddle too much with Affairs Agnes Sorel Why well How know they whether it would be a misfortune Love is often good for many things and I that speak to you if I had not been Mistress to a King of France and if I had not had a great power over him I know not whereabouts France would have been by this time Have you heard in what a desperate condition our Affairs were in under Charles the Seventh and into what a plight the whole Kingdom was reduced the English being almost Masters of it all Roxelana I have as this History has made a great noise I know that a certain Maid did preserve France You are then the Maid And how were you the same time Mistress to the King Agnes Sorel You mistake your self I have no concern with the Maid you have been told of The King of whom I was beloved had a mind to leave his Kingdom to Strangers that were Usurpers and go and hide himself in a Country full of Mountains whither I should not have been very well contented to follow him I bethought my self of a Stratagem to divert him from this design I sent for an Astronomer whom I dealt withal under-hand and after he had made a shew of studying my Nativity he told me one day in presence of Charles the Seventh that all the Planets were Cheats or I should inspire a passion of long continuance into a great King I presently said to Charles You will not take it ill then Sir that I go over to the Court of England for you will be no longer King and you have not loved me long enough to fulfil my destiny His fear of losing me made him resolve to be King of the French and he began at that very time to re-establish himself Behold how much France is obliged to Love and how gallant that Kingdom ough● to be though it were but by way of acknowledgment Roxelana 'T is true But ● must to my Maid again Wha● did she do then Could History be so much mistaken as to attribute to a young Country Mai● that which did belong to a Cour● Lady the King's Mistress Agnes Sorel If History should ●e so far mistaken it would be ●o great wonder Yet 't is most certain that the Maid did highly encourage the Soldiers but I had ●efore-hand animated the King She was a great help to this Prince whom she found ready to engage with the English but had it not been for me she would not have found him in that posture In short you will no farther question the share I have in that great Affair when you shall know the testimony which was given in my behalf in this by one of Charles the Seventh's Successors in this Quatrine Gentle Agnes more Honour is thy due The Cause being France for to rescue Then what in a Cloister can be done By devout Hermit or enclosed Nun. What say you to it Roxelana You will own that if I had been a Sultanness like you and had not had a Right to threaten Charles the Seventh as I did he had been undone Roxelana I wonder at the vanity you take in this petty Action You had no difficulty to gain very much upon the mind of a Lover you that were free and your own Mistress but I as much a Slave as I was I did for all that make the Sultan submit unto me You made Charles the Seventh King almost against his Will and I made Soliman my Husband in spight of himself Agnes Sorel But how They say the Sultans never marry Roxelana I grant it However I was resolved to marry Soliman though I could not bring him to it out of hopes of an happiness which he had not as yet obtained I will tell you a stratagem that goes beyond yours I began to build Temples and to do several other works of Piety after which I made shew of a deep Melancholy The Sultan asked me the reason of it a thousand and a thousand times and when I had made as much a do as was necessary I told him that the cause of my trouble was because all my good Actions as our Doctors had told me did me no good and that as I was a Slave I did but labour sor Soliman my Lord. Hereupon Soliman made me free to the end that the Merit of my good Actions might redound to my own self But when he had a mind to live with me as formerly and treat me like a Beauty of the Seraglio I made as if I were much surprised and represented unto him in a very serious manner that he had no Right over the Person of a free Woman Soliman had a tender Conscience he went to a Doctor of the Law with whom I did deal under-hand to consult about this Case His Answer was that Soliman should beware of pretending any thing over me who was no more his Slave and that unless he did marry me I could be no longer his Now he is more in Love than ever He had but one Choice to make but a very extraordinary one and dangerous to boot for a Sultan However he made it and married me Agnes Sorel I must confess 't is a brave thing to make those submit who do so fore-arm
beyond that of Ithaca I kept you in hand several years and in the end I laughed at you Duke Here are in this place some certain Dead that would not yield that you were altogether like Penelope but there are no comparisons that are not defective in some kind or other Q. Eliz. If you were not as great a Buzzard still as ever and that you could mind what you say Duke That is well be serious now I advise you Thus you have ever made your Bravado's of Witness that great Country of America which you made be called Virginia in memory of a very doubtful quality If by good luck that place were not in another World the name it bears would be very improper but it is no matter this is not the business in question Do so much as give me a reason for your mysterious Conduct and for all those projects of Marriage which came to nothing Is it that the six Marriages of Henry VIII your Father did teach you not to marry as the continual Courses of Charles V. taught Philip II. to stay constantly in Madrid Q. Eliz. I might keep to the reason which you supply me with Indeed my Father spent his whole life in marrying himself and unmarrying again in repudiating some of his Wives and causing others to be beheaded But the true secret of my Conduct is that I found nothing more pretty than to frame Designs make Preparatives and execute nothing Enjoyment of what a man does ardently desire abates of the esteem of it and things do not pass from our imagination to reality without some loss You come into England to marry me then nothing but Balls Feasting Rejoycings nay I go so far as to give you a Ring Hitherto every thing smiles as much as possible all consists but in Preparatives and in Ideas Besides that which does perfect the delight of Marriage is already exhausted Here I stick and dismiss you Duke To be free with you your Maxims would not have suited with me I should have desired something more than Chymeras Q. Eliz. Ah! if men were debarred of Chymeras what pleasures would they have left them I see well enough that you have had no sense of all the pleasures which attended your life but you are very unhappy indeed that you did lose them Duke How What delights were there in my life I never sped in any thing I was like to be King four several times first of all Poland was the place in agitation then England and the Low-Countries at last France in all appearance was likely to fall to me yet for all this I am come hither without Reigning Q. Eliz. And this is the happiness you were not aware of Always imaginations hopes and never any reality You did nothing but prepare your self for Royalty all your life-time as I did all along prepare my self for Marriage Duke But as I believe that a real Marriage might have fitted you I tell you truly that a real Royalty would have pleased me well enough Q. Eliz. Pleasures are not solid enough to bear a search into their depth they must be but just smelled unto They are like those boggy Grounds which a man is obliged to run lightly over without ever settling his foot upon them The Fourth Dialogue William of Cabestan Albertus Frederick of Brandebourg A. F. of Bradebourg I Love you the better for having been a fool as well as my self Tell me a little what your folly was Cabestan I was a Poet of Provence much set by in my Age which caused my ruin I fell in love with a Lady whom I had rendred famous by my Writings But she took such a liking to my Verses that she began to fear lest I should some time or other apply them to some other person and the better to secure her self of the constancy of my Muse she gave me a cursed Drink that turned my Wits and made me incapable of writing any more Brand. How long have you been dead Cab. Near upon four hundred years Brand. Sure Poets were ever scarce in your Age since people had so much esteem for them as to poyson them in this manner I am sorry you were not born in my time you might have made Verses for all kind of handsome Women without any fear of Poyson Cab. I know it I see none of all those great Wits that come hither make their complaints of having had my destiny But you in what manner became you a fool Brand. After a very reasonable manner A King turned fool after having had something appear to him in a Forest But what I saw was far more terrible Cab. And what did you see Brand. In what manner my Wedding was to be kept I did marry Mary Eleonora of Cleve and all along this great day of rejoycing I made such judicious reflections upon Marriage that they put me out of my Wits Cab. Had you any good intervals in your sickness Brand. Yes Cab. So much the worse and I for my part I was yet more unfortunate I recovered my Wits again Brand. I should never have believed that that was a misfor●une Cab. When a man turns Fool he must be an absolute one and continue such an one These Alternatives of Reason and Folly and these Returns again of perfect Reason is the property of your petty Fools only that are so but by accident and which are but inconsiderable in number But behold those which Nature does daily produce in her natural course and wherewith the World ●s filled they are always Fools ●n an equal manner and are never cured Brand. For my part I should have imagined that it were best ●o be as little Fool as one could Cab. Ah! do you not know the ●se of folly Folly hinders a man ●rom knowing himself for the ●●ght of his own self is a sad one ●nd as 't is never time to know ●nes self so folly must not forsake ● man one single moment Brand. You may say what you will you shall not persuade me that there be any other fools than those that are so as both of us have been The rest of men have all Reason else the loss of a man's Wits would be no loss and one could not distinguish the Frantick from such as were in their right Senses Cab. The Frantick are only fools of another kind The follies of all men being of one same nature have agreed together with so much ease that they have been instrumental to the making up of the strongest ties of Humane Society witness that desire of Immortality that false Glory and several other Principles which give a motion to all that is done in the World And none are called fools now but some certain fools that are as one may say out of employment and whose folly could not suit with that of the rest nor enter into the common dealings of life Brand. Those that are frantick are such great fools that for the most part they call one another fool but your