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A10345	The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.	Rainolds, John, 1549-1607.; Hart, John, d. 1586. aut; Rainolds, John, 1549-1607. Sex theses de Sacra Scriptura, et Ecclesia. English. aut	1584 (1584)	STC 20626; ESTC S115546	763,703	768

thirtéenth a most louing father of the Churches children Rainoldes Whether that these Popes or other haue béene good and their elections lawfull it is not the question Perhaps you praise them for affection perhaps they haue béene good as Popes For Popes in our daies are praysed for their goodnes when they surpasse not the wickednes of other men as a good historian who knew and loued them well doth note in Clemens the seuenth Marcellus the second dyed the two and twentéeth day of his Popedome not without suspicion of poyson saith your Genebrard because some men thought that he would be to good Pius the fourth Pius the fifth and Gregorie the thirtéenth haue held the Popedome longer If they were good Popes I trust they were not too good As for their electious the daies are yet too young to sée the faithfull stories of them But if they were chosen as their predecessours according to the custome of the Church of Rome then by the elections of Pius the third Iulius the second Leo the tenth Clemens the seuenth and Cardinall Woolseis letters suing to succéede Clemens wise men may coniecture how lawfully they were chosen You say that there were many tumultes and schismes chiefly through the Emperours meanes before the Popes election could bee wrested from them and brought to the Cardinals but after that time thinges began to mende In déede they haue mended as sower ale doth in summer For of thirtie schismes in the Church of Rome so many as no Church can boast of besides the worst and the longest hath béene sith that time euen the nine and twentieth which lasted by the space of fiftie yeares together first with two Popes at once then with three And if the Emperour Sigismund had not béene through whose meanes the Councell of Constance was assembled and the three remoued by this time your Church might haue had as many Popes as in the Reuelation the scarlet coloured beast hath heads But to leaue the Emperours and proue the point in question that since the Popes were chosen onely by the Cardinals there haue béene as monstrous Popes as were before and haue come in as vnlawfully there are so many examples that it is hard to make choise or know where to beginne amongst them Let him be the first who compiled part of the canon law and that lusty decretall of the Popes supremacy euen Boniface the eighth Who being inflamed with desire of the Popedome induced Pope Caelestin a simple man to resigne it whether by perswading him that hee was not able to wéelde a charge so weighty or by procuring some to sound vnto him in the night a voice as it were from heauen that if he would be saued he must resigne the Popedom or by both these practises but he induced him to resigne it and not looking to be called by God as was Aaron he got it to him selfe by vnorderly meanes all that ambition could deuise Neither did he gouerne it better then he got it For being a man of intolerable pride and thirsting after gold vnspeakeably he bore himselfe as Lorde of spirituall thinges and temporall throughout the whole world He tooke vpon him at his lust to giue and take away kingdomes to banish men and to restore them and sought to bréede terrour rather then religion in the mindes of Emperours of Kinges of Princes of peoples and of nations He was the first autour of your yeare of Iubilee proclaiming full remission ofsinnes to all them who came in pilgrimage to Rome a great gaine to him and his and at that Iubilee he shewed himselfe in his solemnities one day attired like a Pope an other like an Emperour and hauing a naked sworde before him he sate and saide with loude voyce Beholde the two swordes here He cast his predecessour Caelestine into prison and brought him there vnto his graue He vexed the countrie of Italie with warres and nourished discords amongst them He saide that both the land and persons of the Scottes belonged to his Chappell that vnder that pretense hée might trouble England and cite king Edward to his iudgement He refused to accept of Albert chosen Emperour by the Princes of Germany because they made choise without his authoritie who had he said him selfe the right ofboth swordes Hee depriued the French king of his kingdome vpon displeasure and moued the king of England to make warre against him and graunted to Albert that he should be Emperour on condition that he would take the realme of Fraunce also and thrust the lawfull king out of it And more he would haue done of such Papall affaires vnlesse the French king to tame his pride had tooke him prisoner whereupon he dyed within a few dayes for griefe This is that Boniface ofwhom the saying goeth He entred like a foxe he raigned like a lyon hee dyed like a dogge An other like to him but in an other kinde is Iohn the three and twentéeth Who got while he was Cardinall a great deale of mony and finding the Cardinals somewhat poore and néedy gaue them gentle rewardes Whereupon they seing him to be a liberall man made him Pope for it But that liberalitie was his chiefest vertue For he was fitter for the campe then for the Church for profane thinges then for the seruice of god as knowing no faith nor religion at all an oppressour of the poore a persecuter of iustice a mainteiner of the wicked a sanctuarie of Simonie an ofscouring of vices giuen wholy to sleepe to fleshly lustes wholy contrarie to the life and maners of Christ a mirror of vnhonest and infamous behauiour a deuiser a profound deuiser of all vilanies in a worde so lewde and wretched a caitife that amongst them who knew his conuersation he was called commonly a diuell incarnate Yet these most holie Lordes Boniface and Iohn are nothing in comparison of Alexander the sixth For although they both did get the triple crowne corruptly yet they conueyed it closely Alexander the sixth did buy the voyces of many Cardinals openly partly with money partly with promises of his offices and liuinges chiefely the voyce of Cardinall Ascanio for which hee did couenant to giue the chiefest office of the Court of Rome and Churches and castles and a palace full of moueable goods of marueilous great value According vnto which beginning he went forwarde and proued as it was thought he would most pernicious to Italie and all Christendome For though hee excelled in sharpenes of wit in iudgement in eloquence and was verie carefull and quicke in matters of importance yet hee passed farre these vertues with his vices maners most beastly not sinceritie not modestie not truth not faith not religion couetousnes vnsatiable vnmeasurable ambition

are not so flatt and perfite in the Latin as you doo english them For vpon the name of Damasus it foloweth qui etsi quaedam de donis Constantini dicit tamen alij insignes eccl●siarum doctores Rainoldes But if you reade it so the clause ensuing is vnperfit and hath no sense at all A very manifest token that somewhat is a misse through either the writers or printers or correctours faute And that is qui mistaken as I gesse for neque and put out of his place where it ought to folow vpon the name of Damasus etsi quaedam de donis Constantini dicit tamen neque alij insignes ecclesiarum doctores But howsoeuer the words are to be amended the sense must néedes be as I saide touching Damasus For the sentence is plaine so farre that neither Ierom nor Damasus haue mentioned that donation of Constantine as plaine as that which foloweth that it is not mentioned by other famous Doctors neither And who can imagin that the Centurie-writers should say that Damasus wrote of it when it is so cléere that he wrote not that your Hieronymus Paulus Cusanus do bring his autoritie for a speciall reason against the donation The right therefore of it is not proued by Damasus Now is the possession proued any better out of Ammianus Hart. Ammianus Marcellinus an heathen doth closely signifie some such thing while he complaineth and grudgeth at the Popes wealth and power in the seuen and twentieth booke of his story Rainoldes Ammianus saith Genebrard doth closely signifie some such thing In déede some such thing but so farre from that thing that better nothing were said of it For thus saith Ammianus Marcellinus an heathen of Damasus suing to be Pope Damasus and Vr●icinus burning with immoderate ambition of getting the Bishopricke of Rome did fall to very sharpe bickrings through partes taken in so much that the matter grew betweene them to the shedding of blood and to man-slaughter Which tumult Viuentius who was the Lord Deputie being neither able to pacify nor to redresse was forced through their outrage to withdraw himselfe out of the citie into the suburbes and Damasus through the valiant behauiour of his faction got the conquest in the fray And it is certaine that in the Church of Sicininus where Christians make their assemblie there were found a hundred thirtie and seuen carkasses of men slaine in one day and the people furiously bent a great while was afterwarde hardly asswaged Neither do I deny considering the brauerie and pompe vsed in Rome but they who aspire thereto should striue with might maine to obteine it sith when they haue gotten it they shall bee at such ease enriched with the giftes and offerings of matrones and caried abroad in wagons and going in gay apparell and folowing so riotous fare that their bankets are more then princely who might in deed be happy if they would contemne the statelinesse of the citie which cloake they vse for their vices and would liue as certaine Bishops doo in prouinces whom great moderation in vse of meat and drinke and meanenes●e of apparell and modestie of countenance commend as pure and shamefast to God and to the godly Behold this is the wealth and power of the Pope which Ammianus Marcellinus complayneth off and grudgeth at Some such thing it is as Constantine donation but it is not it For the wealth is the pompe and brauery that they maintained by the offrings of matrones The power is a faction of cutters so desperate that when they slew aboue a hundred in a fray the Lord Deputie could not helpe it But the verie naming of the Lord Deputie sent thither by the Emperour should haue taught Genebrard that the Emperour kept the citie still as his owne and was the soueraine Lorde of it Wherefore that which he findeth in Ammianus Marcellinus touching the Popes wealth and power is in respect of wealth the donation of matrones in respect of power the donation of cutters but in respect of neither the donation of Constantine Hart. Nay in that I thinke you are deceiued greatly that you say the Emperour kept still the citie as his owne because he sent a Deputie thither For that Deputie or Lieutenant was there to kéepe the citie not for the Emperours vse but for his safegarde onely Rainoldes Not for his vse but for his safegard Hart. I least the Pope growing dayly mightier by reason of wealth and bordering vpon him should encroch on somewhat of his vpon occasion As Princes now adayes are wont to haue their Deputies and Lieutenants resident in cities néere their territories for their owne safegard and not to keepe the cities as theirs which are not theirs Rainoldes Embassadours or Agents perhaps they may haue in realmes or cities néere them But that the French king should haue a Lieutenant or Deputie in London or that the Quéene of Englands Deputy in Ireland should kéepe it not for her vse but for her safegard onely Princes now a dayes I hope vse not that sure the Emperours did not For they had their Lieutenants in the citie of Rome not as Agents but as Regents and their Lieutenants kept it both to their safegard and their vse as Symmachus a famous Lieutenant of the citie and the Emperours who deputed him doo manifestly shew Yea euen Ammianus him selfe to go no further doth import as much in the verie place alleaged by Genebrard where both the Lieutenant is called the ruler of the citie and his gouernment is namely noted So farre off was he from dreaming any such thing as you doo imagin of Constantines donation Hart. It is no great matter though Ammianus Marcellinus a heathen doo not proue it Rainoldes Not so great as that Gilbert Genebrard a Christian doth falsly charge a heathen with the proofe of it But will you go forward to the rest of his witnesses Hart. Iustinian the Emperour confirmed that donation a hundred yeares after and then Arithpert the king of the Lombards P●pine Charles the great Lewes the godly and last of all Otho the great in a publike councell of Rauenna as the Centurie-writers also do report vsing these very wordes Centur. 10. chapt 10. pag. 538. in Leo the eighth and Iohn his successour perhaps out of that Authentike as they call it or constitution of Iustinian That the Church of Rome should enioy the prescription of a hundred yeares Rainoldes A proofe of some weight if all this be true that the Centurie-writers report yea and report it vsing these verie wordes that Iustinian the Emperour confirmed that donation a hundred yeares after and Arithpert Pipine Charles Lewes and Otho But what if these be not the verie wordes in which the Centurie-writers doo report it What if the Centurie-writers doo not report it at all As in déed they doo not For these are their wordes Pope Leo the eighth to shew his thankfullnes