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A56281 Remarks of A. Pulton, master in the Savoy, upon Dr Tho. Tenison's late narrative with a confutation of the doctors rule of faith, and a reply to A. Chresners pretended Vindication. Pulton, A. (Andrew), 1654-1710. 1687 (1687) Wing P4207; ESTC R5578 30,730 54

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Greek and Roman Emperours and of the Kings of Hierusalem France Spain England Aragon Cyprus and Hungary 'T was held in the year of our Lord 1215. by the Authority of Pope Innocent the III. in the time of the Emperour Frederick the II. For recovering the Holy-Land from the Turks and against the Heresies of the Albigenses and Almaricus and the Errours of Abbot Joachim In the midst of this Discourse about the Lateran Conf. p. 15. Council the Dr. brings in the passage of the Impertinent School-master with his Picture which ought to have been alledg'd six Pages before From Father Walsh the Dr. passes to A. P's Breviary Conf. p. 16. and Written Paper though A. P. produc'd no such Paper and having shew'd in one Paragraph how the question of Transubstantiation c. was now agreed on and that he appeal'd to the Fathers Though he would not take them for his Infallible Judge he presently taxes A. P. that he would p. 17. fix to nothing and soon after complains of Mr. M. whom the Dr. himself to avoid the hearing A. P's Testimonies had provok'd to it That he was drawing p 18. them away from their point So that here 's fixing and no fixing almost in a Breath But here Mr. M. intends to have a word with the Dr. The Dr. then says That He desir'd A. P. to read p. 19. out of his printed Paper the place out of Justin Martyr Which is a Misrepresentation For A. P. having at least twenty times offer'd at it in vain at last took occasion of the Dr's being out of Breath to oblige him to hear it After this the Dr. having given in his Narrative a far different Account of his Sense of the Real Presence from what he did in the Conference it self as appears in A. P's Account to which the Reader A. P 's Account of Conf. p. 12. is referr'd where he first granted it and then said he would not speak to that Point passes on to a Quaery put to A. P. by Mr. D. A. C. viz. What Dr. T 's Acc. of Conf. p. 20. kind of Phylosophy that was which maintain'd that Accidents subsisted without Substance and tells you that A. P. saying 'T was true Philosophy D. T. himself ask'd Whether it was true Philosophy to say there was Whiteness without a white thing c. And that it was answer'd GOD could do this A. P. stands to his Answer and desires to know of this Church-Divine who measures his Faith by his Phylosophy By what principle of Phylosophy he conceives GOD to have made all things of nothing to have Physically united his Divine to our Humane Nature to be Three and One in the same indivisible Substance What Phylosophy teaches the Resurrection of the Dead and the washing our Soul by Baptism Now A. P. has been instructed first to see what Faith Teaches and then to weigh it in the Ballance of Phylosophy and if it surpass the reach of Natural Discourse rather to renounce the Principles of Phylosophy than the Articles of his Faith. As for the Contradiction Mr. D. A. C. is said to have discover'd in the Doctrine of Transubstantiation A. P. asserts that Mr. D. A. C. shall never with all his skill in Logick be able to make a Syllogism that implies a Contradiction in any of the Tenets of the Roman Catholick Church It might be wish'd that the conceited Wits of our Time had more Humility and less Vanity For thence would proceed more Inclination to Faith and less to Atheism Then the Dr. alledges the Testimony of Costerus who grants that if CHRIST be not really present in the Eucharist The Worshiping of it would be worse Idolatry than that of the Laplanders who Worshiped a Red-cloath And A. P. adds that if CHRIST be really there for the belief of which there is fourty to one on A. P's side the denying it Divine Worship would prove the highest Impiety besides the violating a Divine Precept of Eating his Sacred Body incumbent on all who are arriv'd at the years of Discretion This puts me in mind of an Atheistical Expression which fell from one of our Protestant Bigots who seeing beyond-Sea a Person of great Quality and Riches leave all to become a poor Capucin said How will this poor Gentleman be gull'd if after all there be no GOD To which Sacrilegious Impiety a stander by reply'd But how will you be gull'd Sir if there prove to be a GOD To apply this How great will be the Confusion of Dr. T. at the day of Judgement when he shall find the Catholick Tenet true whereas if A. P. should to suppose an Impossibility find it otherwise he will not have the least Reason to appear confounded since he had the same Ground to believe Transubstantiation as the Blessed Trinity Here the Dr. repeats that A. P. was again Confer p 21. desir'd to stick to something where A. P. in near an hour and a half could only edge in two Quotations whilst the Dr. rambled through twenty impertinent Subjects most of which he has misplac'd though here you find him by his own account running on no occasion to that of St. Matthew Hear the Matt. c 18. Church Which every one sees how it was to the Quotations A. P. was always pressing him to A. P. Acc. of Conf. p. 13 14. hear Concerning which see A. P's account The Dr. adds That it was resolv'd that Dr. T. Dr. T 's Acc. of Conf. p. 22. should write of this matter and of St. Ambrose St. Cyril and Justin Martyr to Mr. P. and receive his answer In which there is as much Truth as in the matter of Fact he represented in his 4th Page The Dr. would willingly have what he said Ibid. p. 23. touhing Papists being Breakers of their Words to pass for a personal affront put upon A. P. But A. P. has given you a most sincere and modest Account of it in his Relation of the Conference and A P's Acc. of Conf. p. 14 15. Mr. M. being on this occasion most foully aspers'd by the Dr. will add to it what is pertinent The Dr. drawing to a conclusion of the Conference says That having charg'd A. P. with being of D. T 's Acc. p. 24 an Order who had brought in a Foreign Jurisdiction Note That A. P. only spoke of a Spiritual Jurisdiction A. P. asserted That the Pope had had a Right of Jurisdiction here a Thousand Years and that Dr. T. ought not therefore to call it Foreign and that Dr. T. said these were dangerous words A. P. in this matter refers himself to the Judgement of His most Sacred MAJESTY who alone can be injur'd by that Assertion As for what concerns the Bishops and Clergy of the Church of England they must either derive their Orders and Spiritual Power from the See of Rome or else they will never be able to make out they have any at all The Dr. here omits A.