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A66598	Conscience satisfied in a cordial and loyal submitting to the present government of William and Mary in three discourses justifying the Williamites against the Jacobites : the first being animadversions on a book intitutled The doctrine of non-resistance, or, Passive obedience no way concerned in the controversies now depending between the Williamites and the Jacobites, the second on I Sam. 23.30 ... the third on Dan. 5.20 ... / by Tim. Wilson, rector of Kingsnoth in Kent.	Wilson, Timothy, 1642-1705.	1690 (1690)	Wing W2949; ESTC R38313	57,754	74

Redress Grievances when he thought it necessary if Abishai would kill King Saul he might for him he is not bound to assist It is God's Providence who pulls down one and sets up another Doth not God and Man abhor such Sophistry and Collusion Well fare Passive Obedience it deserves contempt and scorn and to be rooted out of the world if this be it And Good men will make it their business to ridicule and confute it P. 37. for this is one of the worst and most exploded Doctrins of the whole World P. 35. I am sorry he gives such advice as I cannot hearken to to speak modestly of it especially as he hath represented it P. the last And indeed Passive Obedience began to be ridicul'd and exploded by divers of the Clergy and Laity in my hearing some Months before we dreamed of the Prince of Orange's coming to deliver us from our cruel Task-masters the Jesuits and Evil Councellors being convinced of this Error and the many Mischiefs thereof by sence and experience the Mistriss of Fools according to the Proverb as this Gentleman saith P. 22. And now I dare say without transgressing that Rule of Christianity of not rendring railing for railing we are even with this Gentleman for calling us Rebels and inferring this absurd Consequence from our Doctrine That it is Lawful for every man to rebel against his Lawful Prince whenever he thinks it necessary Object But if Defensive Arms are Lawful who shall be Judge when we are oppressed Answ In our Case this Gentleman hath already determined for us that never any Nation was more oppressed And if any man will not stand to his Determination he must I think be wilfully blind However there is no Judge but right Reason for what hath God made us reasonable Creatures but to Judge between Good and Evil Why even of your selves judge ye not what is right is our Saviour's question Luk. 12.57 But indeed great and universal oppression is commonly a thing sensible of which our Senses may be Judges We who justifie Defensive Arms in some Case are as zealous for Government in General and for Monarchy and the English Government and for King William in particular as this Gent. For we have ventured Lives and Fortunes with Him which the Author confesses he hath not And at the rate that he Writes all the Subjects of England or Scotland who came over in Arms with King William are Rebels all that Joyned with Him all that Prayed for his Good Success all the Protestants who defended themselves in Ireland especially Mr. Walker and the London-Derry Protestants are all Damned Rebels because they were Subjects and ought not in any Case to resist the late King And is this the manner of Man O Lord God as he saith But let this Gent. know that the Innocent I mean the Legally Innocent may defend themselves by the Law of Nature and this is written in his and every mans heart And he saith P. 1. The contrary Doctrine was dangerous to the Prince of Orange at his first Landing And indeed if half the People had believed Passive Obedience as most of the Clergy taught and most of the Army seemed to believe He might have lost his Head by venturing to Save us But blessed be God Englishmen would not be frighted out of their senses by a causeless Curse from some weak Prophets or full of prejudice And how any man could declare too soon for the Prince of Orange his now Majesty and so forget his Duty as he saith P. 3. is a Mystery that I would have this Gent. unfold If his Cause was good and just as this Author acknowledgeth who could declare too soon for him Passive Obedience deserves to be rooted out of the World if for no other reason yet for this because it hath blinded this honest Gentleman that he cannot speak well of his best Friends I mean of those who have been Instruments of his Deliverance from that Infatuated Monarch as he writes under whose Government he dreads to live again I hope we have no Court-Parasites and Flatterers who follow the old Maxim Oblige your Enemies Neglect and slight your Friends Cursed be such Policy I confess I am for forgiving Enemies and encouraging the Penitent I hate Cruelty or Severity especially considering so many misled Souls as we have had in England May the King's Throne be Established in Righteousness and may Mercy and Truth preserve the King But let not those who have cheerfully spent their strength in this Cause be slighted or exposed to the Malice of their Enemies Object Christ and his Apostles and the Primitive Christians did not resist the Heathen Roman Persecuting Emperors And this was true Doctrine in Tertullian's time Apol. 1. Cap. 37. as he quotes Pag. 10. If we Christians would become your publick and declared Enemies or secret Revengers of our own Wrongs should we want Force and Number to support it We exceed the Moors the Marcomans and the Parthians or any other one single Nation in the whole World we are but of Yesterday and yet we have filled all your Places your Cities your Islands Castles Corporations Councels Tribes Companies Palace Senate and Forum or Market-Place and we have left you nothing to Enjoy alone but your Temples Now we who so willingly lay down our Lives are we not thereby fitted and prepared do you think to manage any War tho' we were very much inferiour in Number if our Religion did not oblige us rather to suffer Death than to Inflict it We might without Arms or Resistance barely by disagreeing with you and the Envy of a Separation very much endanger and disquiet you for if so great a part of the Empire as we now make should break it self off from the rest and retire into any remote Corner of the World it would certainly confound your Dominions to lose so many Subjects be their quality what it will yea our very departure from you would be a severe Punishment the Desolation and Silence we should leave behind us would strike you with an Horror and Amazement as if the World were expiring you would be forced to seek for new Subjects to supply our places and perhaps we should leave you more Enemies than Subjects or Defenders This place hath been often cited to prove the Doctrine of Passive Obedience and in truth it is a Noble Testimony of the Faith and Patience of those Saints Answ The Laws of the Empire were against them Now Christ came not to destroy or alter Political Government but left it as he found it And he sent his Apostles to reform the world to turn men from darkness to light and from the Power of Satan unto God And accordingly their Weapons were not Carnal but Spiritual They did not like Mahomet and his Followers Conquer the World by force of Arms but did Convince and Convert Jews and Gentiles by working Miracles by the Sword of the Spirit by the Word of God and by Reason Disputation

words of our Royal Martyr of ever Blessed Memory King Charles the First 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 p. 295. with me Gods wise Providence we know often permits many Events which his revealed Word the only clear safe and fixed Rule of good Actions and good Consciences in no sort approves Let not the meanest in understanding mistake me I am not for Election every Reign but for Succession just as it is in England But I say Election is the true Title of all Government originally and this is the Foundation of all the various Forms in the World Power is Gods but the Form as St. Peter saith is an Humane Creation Constitution or Ordinance I never loved to lye for God's Cause it needs it not nor daub with untempered Mortar God forbids it For my part if I did not in Conscience believe that the late King by his Male-administration deserved what he hath suffered not only from the hand of God but also from the hand of his Subjects and that in this Revolution they are innocent who defended themselves and the Laws of their Country against his Arbitrary Proceedings I should think my self bound by the Oath of Allegiance to pray for his Restauration But because he hath broken his Covenant Coronation Oath and Promise I am sure our part of the Bond and Covenant is cancelled also And that Kings were at first by Election I prove thus in the words of a great Divine not much altered What first invested such a Family with Regal Power more than another It must be either God from Heaven designing it as David or man appointing it or taken by Force there is no fourth It was not the first and to say the third is right is an extream wrong to the King If meer Force can give right then whosoever is most forcible hath right It must therefore be something else What can that be but the consent of the People in Parliament to such a Family which is in effect all one with Election you may give it what name you will But saith this Gentleman P. 28. The Primitive Church in the best times took the words of S. Paul in their plain and literal sense The Powers that are 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 i.e. in Possession are ordained or ordered of God Rom. 13. They never formalize or make any Exception but Conquest Election Vsurpation were to them all alike if once the man was Established in the Throne Answ I will not here take occasion to consider what learned Criticks say about the word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 on which he seems to lay some stress but they say it signifies the True or Lawful Powers nor will I expatiate in Analyzing this Text tho' I have a Discourse upon this subject by me And I have read such Doctrine as this in some Oliverian Pamphlets in our late Anarchy and Confusion And if occasion be I can produce one which perhaps this Gent. hath seen and hath been corrupted by it or by some like it But sure he never read this Doctrine in any Book written by any Divine of the Church of England I have before distinguished between a Lawful and an Usurped Magistracy according to the best Divines of all Churches that ever I read insomuch that I wonder at this Gentleman who professeth himself of the Communion of the Church of England According to this Doctrine it is a poor weak thing to be a Martyr or to suffer for Loyalty to our King or Country Whereas it hath in all Ages not only among Christians but also among Heathens by the light of Nature been accounted a most Heroick Virtue to lay down our Lives for these If this Gent. had been alive and of years to advise no Subject should have suffered with King Charles the First if he had been their Counsel I am so angry that if I knew Thieves designed to rob this Gent. House I would not counsel one Neighbour to assist against these Rogues but would commit it to God to determine as he thought fit as his Cant is P. 3. which vergeth very near to Blasphemy And this very Phrase makes me think that this honest Gent. hath been misled by some Fanatick Book I cannot think that he ran into this Error wittingly and willingly and deliberately he is a good Christian surely because P. l. he speaks against those that despise all revealed Religion and that sort of Men who have their All in this world and pretend to nothing in the next and therefore I must in Charity believe he hath the Hope of a Christian but I cannot but explode his Doctrine O put'd Divinity Phy upon this gross Machiavelian and Hobbean Policy But to be serious seeing this Gent. hath advised us I will return kindness for kindness and for once be so free with him as to advise him Good Sir In the fear of God review that part of your Discourse which concerns God's Providence and the Government of Kingdoms and States and learn to distinguish between good and bad perhaps your second thoughts may be wiser Consult with some learned and conscientious Divine and see if he will tell you that in the Primitive times their Loyalty was one of their lesser Virtues upon which they never valued themselves as you say P. 3. You discourse in so loose and extravagant a manner that I must beg leave to enter my Dissent and Protest against this Dose of Opium And I never read so much Poison administred with a good design before in my life And if any applaud you for this Discourse I will pray with our Church in the Litany Lord have mercy upon us Christ have mercy upon us Lord have mercy upon us for surely we are not in our senses God save King William and Queen Mary from such Defenders of their Right and Title If you will not be admonished to revoke this in my Opinion you deserve to speak plain English for by God's Providence and King William's Protection we Priests of the Church of England breathe in a free Air. I wish all of us could see our own happiness I hope in time mens Prejudices will be removed and through the Clemency of His most Gracious Majesty chearfully perform their Duty I say you deserve not only to be Excommunicated the Church of England but also the whole Church of God for this wicked Error But I hope our English Blood is still Noble and will count it their Honour and the Glory of their Religion to die for their King and Country when occasion is and God shall call them thereunto And this is true Church of England Loyalty and approved by all the Churches of God But at the rate that you talk if Corah Dathan and Abiram had had success it had been God's Providence and Approbation and so farewel Moses If Absalom had been prosperous and in Possession of the Throne right or wrong see to thy house David What need we commend the Fidelity of Ittai that loyal Heart that noble and constant

Spirit when he saith As the Lord liveth and as my Lord the King liveth surely in what place my Lord the King shall be whether in death or life even there also will thy Servant be 2 Sam. 15.21 And they that furnished David with Provisions especially Barzillai the Gileadite according to this Gent. Doctrine and indeed his whole Discourse of this Matter is meer Enthusiasm as if God did all things without means might have been wiser and saved Charges and committed the thing to God to determine as he thought fit But I am weary of lashing this Doctrine with which none but poor weak crazy Heads can be deceived or vile leud and Atheistical men because it teacheth such Nonsensical Disloyal Unchristian and Unnatural Behaviour towards our King and Country Voluptuous and Effeminate Epicures indeed by this Doctrine may sleep in a whole skin as we say but if they do not betray they will do no service to the Throne and Kingdom in time of Difficulty And as much as I think the late King was to blame I cannot but pity him if all his Adherents were of this Gent. Mind But let God be true and every Man a Liar Is there no distinction to be made between Lawful Kings and Usurqers or Tyrants in Title And again between Lawful Kings having Authority and ruling according to Law and Princes that have Authority but are Tyrants in Exercise and would subvert the Ancient Government and rule Arbitrarily Again he doth not distinguish between God's extraordinary and immediate and his ordinary and mediate Providence between what he doth by his Almighty Power immediately and what he doth mediately by Men as Instruments and these Instruments are Good or Bad. And here should be considered in what manner he works by good Instruments and in what manner by bad And tho' this Subject is difficult yet surely the Primitive Doctors and Fathers of the Church made distinction I have ever thought that all Government in Church and State stands most firm upon its own Foundation Let us have true Divinity and true Policy once more in England for God's sake Fourthly I must consider what he saith to the Williamites And here what he saith P. 35. is true We are satisfied and highly pleased with the present state of Affairs But I observe here that he fails in the usual Complement and Address of a Gent. He might if he had thought of it have honey'd the bow with us as we say in our Country and at his first Aggress given us thanks for assisting in our several Callings and Places to preserve our Religion and that Church of which this Gent. saith he is a Member and our Laws Liberties and Properties But oh this Passive Obedience I have a mind to say once more that I would have it rooted out of the world because this ingenious Gent. and verily in my heart I believe a good Christian hath forgotten the common courtesie of the Nation and falls foul upon us with some morosity He saith VVe have appeared very pertly against the Doctrine of Non-resistance and Passive Obedience Very pretty This Gent. in Conscience could neither resist nor assist and therefore tho' he is glad of the Deliverance yet he cannot thank the Deliverers Well but at least he might be silent and not speak evil of those who with a good Conscience could and thorough God's blessing did deliver him from that Bondage under which he ●●●ned If I were in the mire and the greatest Villain upon Earth helper me out so far I would be thankful to him and own his kindness as not to expose him when I am not bound in Conscience But this Gent. design is to put an End to this unseasonable Controversie p. 2. Very well Why then does he assert and defend Passive Obedience as the Glory of the Church of England and the Bulwark of all Religious Kings and States against the rage of mutinous and rebellious Spirits who pretend to fight for God's Truth against the Laws and Governments of their Countries P. 36. This foolish and sottish Charge would move a stone as we say Surely he had a mind to provoke us and quicken this Controversie almost buried in the Grave of Silence I could here fairly illustrate and make it probable that Passive Obedience hath been I will not say the Cause but the Occasion of the Ruin of two Kings and of a Civil War and of the Church of England once and almost the second time for what reasonable man indued with flesh and blood can indure this Church Tyranny that in any case whatsoever we must not resist Would to God this Gent. would have been quiet Does he think that we will be beat out of our Senses once more and that so soon after our eyes have been opened I will rebuke him in the words of Job cap. 27. verses 5 6 7 8. God forbid that I should justifie you till I die I will not remove my Integrity from me My righteousness I hold fast and will not let it go My heart shall not reproach me so long as I live Let my Enemies be as the wicked and he that riseth up against me as the unrighteous For what is the hope of the Hypocrite tho' he hath gained when God taketh away his Soul I will stand by it there is no other way in Conscience to justifie our cause but by asserting defensive Arms in some Case But says this Gent. VVe had no disloyal Exhortations from the Press or Pulpit to perswade men to sight against their Prince nor had we any to perswade us to sight for Him but the thing was committed to God to determine as he thought fit P. 3. God a mercy Prejudice I Suppose our Reverend Fathers and Brethren can give an Account to the world of their own Behaviour without asserting God's Providence in this Gent. wild notion But for once I will write a Latin Sentence Turdus sibi●●●lum cacat Every man must Answer for himself I 'le blame no man that does not blame me But some Writings from the Press we had and from the hand of a Person who is now dignified in the Church if we are not all mistaken And he is highly approved of by His present Majesty and all the Clergy that are without Prejudice and honour real worth speak honourably of him As for our Gracious King the whole series of his Proceedings since He Landed on English Ground shews his most Excellent Virtues Justice Mercy Clemency Fortitude and Magnanimity And I am confident He can say what the Emperor Trajan said to a Tribune when he set him over the Praetorian Band delivering the Sword Vse this for me when I Command just things and against me when I Command unjust things And now with due Submission to my Governours in Church and State I come to the main Matter of Controversie First I assert That Defensive Arms are in some case Lawful and consequently that the Doctrine of Passive Obedience and Non-resistance is false This I