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A44078	Humble proposals for the relief, encouragement, security and happiness of the loyal, couragious seamen of England, in their lives and payment, in the service of our Most Gracious King William, and the defence of these nations humbly presented to the two most Honourable Houses, the Lords and Commons of England, in Parliament assembled / by a faithful subject of His Majesty, and servant to the Parliament and nation, and the seamen of England, in order for safety and security of all aforesaid, W. Hodges ; to which is added, a dialogue concerning the art of ticket-buying, in a discourse between Honesty, Poverty, Cruelty and Villany, concerning that mystery of iniquity, and ruin of the loyal seamen.	Hodges, William, Sir, 1645?-1714.	1695 (1695)	Wing H2329; ESTC R2277	51,833	63

Port and some in another Whether the Ships must wait until they are well and how the same Men can get to their own Ships again when they are gone And if they continue sick or die or go on board of other Ships or be sent to the Hospitals and Run out of their Pay whether this be not Injustice Cruelty Opression Discouragement to the King's Service and that whereby no Man in England can be safe to Serve his King and Country for time to come nor no Man safe to trust a Seaman or Seaman's Wife and Family one Groat that is in the King's Service on those terms since the Stoutest Man and Honestest Man in England by keeping long on Board may fall Sick and Die or continue Sick and that a Year or two and if not go on Board or be Prest on board another Ship and so loose his Pay I do protest in the presence of the Lord before whom I Write this I fear if there be none in these Nations to be found to consider these dreadful Cases but suffer Cruelty and injustice to be smugled up that God will Chastise these Nations until they Learn what it is to Ruin Men and Families in their Lives or Pay thousands and ten thousands as by the King's Pay-books and Muster-books will appear and they I appeal to they are such a Register the Nation never saw in the Sea Affairs and the blame must lie somewhere and I suppose some hardened Hearts will say the Running them out of their Pay is right enough but it may be they will not consider that their turning from Ship to Ship until Sickness or Death came was the Cause of a great part and I hope they will not be so Case-hardened as to say they were served well enough to be Run out of their Lives so many ten thousands also I remember the English Nation in some former times was mighty industrious to find out and Punish the Instruments that Ruined the King's Liege-People in their Lives and Estates and had we had but the tenth part of Landmen's Poor Families Stripped of all they had in the World as there hath been Seamen stripped of their Pay it would have made a dreadful out-cry in England And indeed if our Poor in England had been forc'd to be turned from Master to Master without a Penny of Mony for some Years as many Seamen have from Ship to Ship and their miserable Wives and Children Live on Credit or Starve and if at last they should under the burden of all by discouragements fall sick and be Run out of their Mony they had worked for several Years as many have been out of their Pay in several Ships it would look dreadfully bad And some well-meaning men would have nothing said of it to acquaint the Government for fear our Enemies should know it as if the French who hath taken so many hundred Ships from us and near twenty thousand Men Captive this War and hath so many Spies and Treacherous Villains here and doth to outward appearance know a great deal better where to meet our India Ships and Berbado's Ships in several places to take them Home to France than ours did to send Convoys to take them Home to England and yet some seeming Honest Men are afraid the French that take our Ships and Men should know our Case and in short I fear he knows it a great deal more exactly than some do or will do in England for I do think some in England seem to do like what is said of the Woodcocks to hide their Heads in a Bush and think none can see them and so if they let the King Country and Seamen be all Cheated it will continue to be all smuggled up but my Pen runs thirteen to the Dozen and yet the knavery of the Bakers is such that if care be not taken I am afraid some of our Seamens Families will be ready to starve but to that I should propose a Remedy that Seamen may not be Cheated of their Health Lives and Pay altogether First if as many as is possible might be Paid off every year and that it may be would save most of their Lives most of their Healths and all their Pay besides and we might have Ships enough for a Winter Squadron besides and if any did fall Sick then if the Ship goeth away and leaves him set on shoar then if he cannot come on Board to set him in the Ships Book dis-sick at such a place and time and the Man if well to go on Board another Man of War and to have the Captain of the Man of War send up a Certificate to the Office That such a man that was in such a Ship is now in his Ship and this to be Entered in the other Ships Book in the Office to save the Poor Seamens Pay and if the other Ships Book be not there to have a Register Book to enter it in the mean time and if the Man continues Sick or Dies the Surgeon of the place he is sent to to be bound to give a Certificate of his Case to save his Pay since it must needs seem to me to be a barbarous thing towards any for time past to be turn'd from Ship to Ship for several Years until they fall sick and die and then be Run out of their Pay and it may be their poor Ruined Wives who hardly have seen their Husbands this War it may be they must come 100 or 200 Miles to shew cause why they must have any mony and why their Husbands went not on Board their own Ships again and it may be the Ships Journal if looked into at the Office would shew the Ship went away in 24 hours And if God will bring every work to Judgment I doubt our Ships Books and Ships Journals will be sad Witnesses against the Cruelty of some in those Offices to Run poor Wretches out of their Pay that the men are as the Sentence is against those that are to be hanged Dead Dead Dead And therefore if I find not any Remedy against Ruining the Fatherless and the Widow I will not expect any great Security of our Ships and Merchandise And so much to that God is a Jealous God If we Ruin the Poor of Thirty Thousand Pounds the Year by some sort of Tools and God suffers the Nation to lose so many Hundred Thousand Pounds in Riches and the King his Custom by the Ignorance Carelessness and Treachery of others if our own Folly be not too hard for us I fear the Judgments of God will and therefore I advise some way for these Nations to break off their sins by Repentance and their Iniquities by shewing mercy to the Poor and Mercy and Justice both will teach ways to secure Ruined Seamens Pay when wounded or dead or in the Hospitals 9. It is a miserable thing that when men are turn'd over or dead or sick that their poor Wives cannot be informed whether their poor Ruined Husbands are Run

HUMBLE PROPOSALS FOR THE Relief Encouragement Security and Happiness of the Loyal Couragious Seamen of England in their Lives and Payment in the Service of our Most Gracious King William and the Defence of these Nations Humbly Presented to the Two Most Honourable Houses the Lords and Commons of England in Parliament Assembled By a Faithful Subject of his Majesty and Servant to the Parliament and Nation and the Seamen of England in order for Safety and Security of all aforesaid W. Hodges To which is added A DIALOGUE concerning the Art of Ticket-buying In a Discourse between Honesty Poverty Cruelty and Villany concerning that Mystery of Iniquity and Ruin of the Loyal Seamen Printed in the Year 1695. To the Lords Spiritual and Temporal and Commons in Parliament Assembled Humbly sheweth THAT the Providence of our most gracious God having stirred me up to see and consider and lament the most dreadful Ruin and Destruction of the Loyal Seamen of England in their Lives and Pay that ever these Nations did behold and to Represent the same in all Humility to your Honours and considering also that some of their Miseries were in my Judgment against Grace and Reason and Common Sense and also sometimes against those other Four Things that used to be esteemed of as Jewels in England that is Religion Liberty Property and their Lives To say nothing of the Fifth without Law made me to dread the Consequent and I did observe that it was hidden from his Majesty and your Honours so long until there was the Loss as I represented to you of the Lives of above Forty Thousand and of the Pay of above Sixty Thousand of them and if there had been occasion to question the Truth of it I would have proved at any time by the King's Books in twenty Four Days time without Two Pence Charge to the King or Nation and considering that his Majesty has spoken for their Relief and your Honours who had raised money enough before to have kept them from Ruin and to have spared a Million or Two of it by Capt. St. Lo's Rule Besides if they had been but managed as the English Seamen were in former days and as the Dutch and the French do at this day to save near half their money and most of their Seamens Lives But I say Your Honours being now also Resolved to study their Relief I presume in all Humility to cast in my Mite also Now in order to the same which I would intreat your Honours to accept of as Rough and Unframed Timber to be squared and fitted to what part your Honours please and one thing is many crooked pieces are made use of in the building of Shipping that when placed aright not only serve to strengthen the Ship and help to preserve the Lives of the Seamen but formally use to help tohold the Ships together while they daily beat their Enemies and tho these Pieces may not be always so readily known to all Landmen I will presume some may serve now and some another time And I do assure your Honours if I had better at hand I would present them to you But they are my own and so saved me the trouble of begging borrowing or which is worse stealing and I intreat your Honours Patience for their Miseries being so dreadful and so many years a growing and so many times Ten Thousands as they could not have been easily represented except one should have said their Case was almost all together Miserable But blessed be God that it is not They have a good King and good Countrey for their Friends if their Cases are not blinded from them And as to their Remedies it requires a great deal of Care and Inquiry And when I look back to what I represented before and forward to what strange need there is of them now and when I hear that a great many there is that are in Droves travelling in other Countries without Shooes or Stockings seeking to enter into the Service of the Merchants of England there or to serve other Nations and Run away from che Merchant-Ships also and lose their Pay some of them not being willing to come home for fear of the Press This makes my Heart dread the Effects of it and do suppose these Two Things would be worth while to be inquired into by the Parliament to know how the Case stands with them in these respects First Let every Man of War's Book that hath been in the Streights or Spain or Portugal be searched to see what Numbers Run away out of any Ship or every Ship at any Port or Place And Secondly To have an Account of the Men of War and Merchant-Ships lost this Eighteen Months to the French with the whole Number of Men taken in each Ship and in the whole Shipping lost and then have also the Number of Men return'd from France in that time that did belong to those Ships and what is wanting may be supposed to be entred into the French Service if not dead and if of the East-India Ships taken there be come home short near an Hundred of those men that were taken it is to be fear'd the rest will stay until warm weather and then get some Money and Cloaths if our Press is so great this Winter that they meet the poor Captive Wretches when they Return home in their Lousie Cloaths from France and beg their way near an Hundred and Fifty Miles then before they come to London catch them and carry them on Board Rags and Lice as they Run put them down in the Hold of the Vessel to lie on the Boards or Ballast or what they please if they be without Bedding and as Queen Esther said if they perish they perish This is a Notable Age to tame Prodigals in if they be ordinary Seamen but if they be Double-Pay Officers then it may be they Run up and down and be as bad or worse than before and so it may be will not be worth some of them a Groat a Dozen when the War is over tho they most times Live For the Officers that have Liberty to come on Shore die very few of them But this by the way But I am too large in the Introduction I did think to say something more as to the Seamen's Encouragement in this Preface as that without the Seamen be paid off yearly on Shore and have a Fortnight's or Month's Liberty to Recruit their Healths I am afraid they will never be encouraged to come into the Service neither stay there and if they do and die it is as bad as Running for if they Run away in England and the Merchants get them it is an help to Trade and the King may have them again and I could never know the Reason of that pretence of keeping the Seamen in such slavery in their payments in this Age more than any other to be paid on Board as if his Majesty's Service was not as good as in any Age of the World For

no Victuals short since the King allows enough of all these things if men shuffle it not away and also to see the men mustered every week all the Voyage on board to prevent their being entred that never come on board neither they kept open that Run away And that also the Seamen extra might be Learning to carry a Ship to Sea in any part of the World and consulted with in case of Danger that Ships might not be knockt on the head or fool'd away for time to come so madly as in some times past and these men to have six shillings the Month more than Able Seamen and to be preferr'd if deserving 21. In regard that the Boatswains Gunners and Carpenters are Places of great Care and Trust and some Expences in the getting in and taking care of and accounting for their Stores and their Wages being it may be under-valued in respect of those who have double Pay if his Majesty and the Honourable Houses would advance their Pay half as much more as they have now and this would be the way to encourage them to be honest faithful and cheery in the Service and they that are not honest to be punished if they are found to steal the King's Store then they and the Parties who are the Receivers which are as bad as the Thieves to be every man that is found guilty marked on the Little Fingers and transported for Servants to the West-Indies all their Days as those that would infect others if they staid here And to find out all Theft if there were this Encouragement That whatever Seamen 2 or 3 could prove the same to have their discharge from the Ship on the Conviction of the Offender and Tickets for their own mony to be paid presently at the Pay-Office and a Protection for One Year from the Press except they can be preferr'd in the time to some place into some other Ship And this would be the way to have almost all the Thieves in the Fleet and in the Yards discovered and without Charge or Loss to the King But if men who discover Cheating be abused brow-beaten and back-beaten and confin'd to endure it all their days no marvel if there is seldom any Thievery found out if never so much committed 22. No Pursers or Captains Clerks or any Officers to give a List of Names to others to forge Powers or to deliver out Tickets to any but publickly and to those who have Powers that are Lawful to take the same and none to sell or receive any Seaman's Pay or Ticket except their own Indenture-Servants on Pain of Felony as being worse than Highway-men 23. There to be a Committee to hear the Complaints of ●hose who have been oppressed cheated or ruined in their Pay and to hear all Complaints freely and to restore Justice to the oppressed as those who would not have the hand of God go out against our Navigation any more to the suffering either our own Folly or the Enemies Subtilty to ruin us 24. That whenever Ships are put up for Re-calls at Broadstreet for Pay there be a certain time appointed for each Ship and publick notice given at least 6 days before-hand for all parties to appear that have Mony due that they may not lose their Pay or come at such uncertainties for small sums that the trouble and charge and loss of time is worth more than the Mony receiv'd 25. That there may be also an appointment of some of the Commissioners that state the publick Accounts to hear and receive all Informations wherein the King and Nation have been cheated and liberty to grant a safe Conduct to any one to come and appear before them to make a full and free discovery and to let them depart home without molestation again and if their Information be worthy of a Pardon that it might be interceeded for if not that they might be left open to the Law as before And that if any one that hath been guilty of Cheating and forging of Powers can discover two others as bad as themselves so as they may be convicted then the first to be pardoned and the other two punished And if the other two can either of them discover two more that is four as bad as themselves the two to be excused and the four corrected unless any of them could double their Information as aforesaid and this would be one way perhaps to find out how the King and the Nation and the Seamen may be modestly Judged to be cheated of 100 or 150000 l a year this War And now I having proposed this it may be I shall meet with some Enemies that will envy me ten times worse than the Thieves envied him that wrote the Book that is called The English Rogue and yet if they were so wise as to keep their own Counsel none would know I meant them for indeed I bless God I aim not against persons but Villany and if I meet with any that is offended at me for discovering the Method of the Navy-Cheats I shall think it is some body that is galled and scabbed and that I touched them tho I did not see them and therefore they kick and bite as some Horses will do And so much to that I would advise them to keep their own Counsel that others may not laugh at them and if they laugh themselves and are pleased the World will be ready to judge they are glad if I can hunt out the Scabby Sheep out of their Flock But I would propose concerning those many thousands that are taken captive into France if it were in English Ships 26. That they that are taken may have their several miseries considered of how they are used in France and if their sufferings be so great that they are ready to perish there for want it would be well if some Relief were ordered them that they might not die and perish there or be forced to enter into the French Service for Liberty Bread and Cloaths and therefore to be sent for away also so soon as possible they can conveniently 27. When come to Plimouth or any Sea-Port Town in England to have at least a penny a mile allowed every Seaman for Travelling Charges to London if in Men of War and to where their Friends live if in Merchant Ships that they may not be forc'd to beg or starve for near 200 miles and at last be forc'd away into other Ships without one penny of mony to buy them Clothes for to shift them And it may be considered if it be not a barbarous thing to meet men as far as Kingston coming home out of France with nothing but their Lousie Old Cloaths the French give them and when they have begged 150 miles to carry them away lay them in the Hold in Press-Ketches without Bedding or any thing to lie under or over them and it may be the poor Wretches sickly and weak some of them And this is now at this time one Fruit of our

would say it is well for all the Nobility's and Gentry's and Yeomen's Horses in England that they have not Pursers to feed them that if their Masters allow them 10 or 20 Quarters of Oats for a Stable the Grooms that should feed them take a third of them and sell them and drink away the mony between the Drivers and the Grooms and reckon so many Pecks a day and if the Horses are abroad at work and come not in time charge their Oats to the Master's Account tho they are sold away and they eat none in 2 or 3 days or a week And indeed bad Drivers and bad Feeders is enough to spoil any Team of Horse in the World I have heard among Countrymen in Kent some say There is half in half difference in driving Cattle some will beat them and whip them and knock them over the Pate and swear and damn like Devils at the Cattle and spoil them that they will hardly drive at all or it may be break their Traces and run away and spoil the Team at last whereas if another that knows how to manage them with care and cheereth them up clappeth them on the back with his hand and chirups lovingly to them they will draw like Lions And in short I will appeal to all the Yeomen in Kent many of whom are my Relations if ever they knew a Team of Horse get a Groat clear Gains for their Masters at 7 Years End whose Drivers and Hostlers had ruined them half and near starved some of the rest and cheated their Masters in the mean time of more a great deal than their Provender came to But I had need intreat pardon for my rambling but sometimes there may be Abundance of homely Truths spoken in Jest and it may be too true to make a Jest of But however now to the Seamen of England They are Really as true to the Interest of King William to the last as any sort of men whatever and many of those who have stood in the King's Books as Run-aways are either dead in his Service and that is the last they can do for him and others are still in his Service to this hour tho Run out of their Pay in other Ships And in short it looks very miserable also to be Run out of their Pay in other Ships and cannot obtain leave once in 3 or 4 Years to come to shew Cause or hear Reason why they should have their mony I remember the Heathen Romans are said to take care not to condemn men without being heard speak for themselves and also seeing their Accusers Now if it be objected that it cannot be expected all that are made Run should see their Accusers yet for the 2d they might have this priviledge Heathens allowed of speaking for themselves And therefore I think in the next place 40. It is but Reason and Justice the Seamen that are made Run should be protected 14 days to petition to get off their R. S. But I am much afraid that it will be found Cruelty at last to make men lose their Pay that are dead a-shore or sick in the Hospitals or not a month out of the King's Service these several Years or discharged fair by Tickets signed by all the Officers And this I would ask Whether the King's Service be a perpetual bondage That tho a man be Really sick and have a Ticket given him to discharge him sick signed by all the Officers to clear him and get his Pay whether it be not Oppression and Cruelty in those that should pay the mony to deprive these men of their mony because they that they left their Powers with do not know presently where the man is or whether living or dead or in what Ship and it may be it is some Years past since he was discharged and whether this way of management be like to encourage the Seamen or any that trust them or the like In plain English Such managers would fright away the Seamen and fright others from trusting them And now I have said this it may be some will think I write this for interest and am concerned with such a Case To that I answer No for I left off buying 3 Years past and now write only to serve God and my King and Country And if I were in another Country and should hear these things it may be I might be ashamed of those kind of Actions and Abundance more that I fear are against Law and Gospel and Honesty and Policy yea and I fear against good Heathen Morality and seems to be all Arbitrary But now I hope our Gracious King and Loyal Parliament have espoused the Seamen's Cause they will as an honest Gentleman of the House of Commons said endeavour to do them Right And this short Prayer I will put up for the Seamen for time to come That the King and Parliament would not leave them and their Families to the tender mercies of the wicked for the Scripture that cannot lie saith That the tender mercies of the wicked are cruel And it may be some that have been a year a getting a Petition for Justice Answered may understand something of the meaning of that when they come to beg nothing but their own that was due to them by plain Justice bare and thread-bare and stark naked Justice and Honesty Therefore if there be not some way to secure poor Seamen's Pay for time to come it is past my skill to warrant our Sea-Port Towns will send their Men Children or Servants into the Service so freely as before and it may be they that have been so served as aforesaid if they are not dead yet will not come without good words And 41. Therefore if I might humbly presume to give my thought I would suppose it requisite not only to take all care imaginable to secure the Seamen's Lives and Pay and Health but also to have the Act for their Encouragement read in every Ship once a quarter and an Abstract of the Encouragement set up in the Sea-Port Towns of England or at least the Heads of it put in the Gazette that the Nation may see for time to come that they do not pay their many and the Seamen ruined but that the Seamen shall be encouraged and also honestly paid 42. That they might be paid in London that the City of London that is always ready to assist his Majesty with money may have some again from the Seamen and not let those who manage the Seamen put the King to extraordinary charge to pay the Seamen several miles off to the depriving the City of their Trade and the spoiling of near half the Seamens Pay besides For in short in London the Seamen can buy all things at best hand can send home their mony to their Families to any part of England or Scotland And if they but spend their mony here or send it home to their Families and injoy a months Liberty and fresh Air and fresh Victuals the Sea will