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A36497 A discourse written by Sir George Downing, the King of Great Britain's envoy extraordinary to the states of the United Provinces vindicating his royal master from the insolencies of a scandalous libel, printed under the title of (An extract out of the register of the States General of the United Provinces, upon the memorial of Sir George Downing, envoy, &c.), and delivered by the agent De Hyde for such to several publick ministers : whereas no such resolution was ever communicated to the said envoy, nor any answer returned at all by their lordships to the said memorial : whereunto is added a relation of some former and later proceedings of the Hollanders / by a meaner hand. Downing, George, Sir, 1623?-1684. 1672 (1672) Wing D2108; ESTC R34994 50,712 177

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further alledg in their own excuse That they were so grateful as that they offered unto the Queen of England the Soveraignty of the Netherlands which she would not accept and therefore none of their fault that She obtained it not It is in reason truly answered That the Queen of England well knowing that she was in danger to draw a perpetual War on her Self and her Successors by the accepting such a Gift to which She had no right did wisely refuse their Liberality and yet for all that She continued to aid them without that chargeable obligation The Hollanders do further alledg That the Queen of England had the Cautionary Towns of the Brill and Flushing with other places delivered into her hands It is true She had so and thereby only enjoyed the benefit of being at the greater expence of Men and Money But pray take notice that most certain it is That the Hollander had no sooner made a Truce with the King of Spain and the Arch-Duke Albertus but he began presently to set the English at naught and take the Bridle out of their hands whereupon immediately ensued the bringing of English Clothes died and dressed into Holland and the adjoining Provinces without ever making the King of England or his Ambassador Leiger at the Hague acquainted therewith And to make amends for this their sawcy and insolent affront in a more high and peremptory way they demeaned themselves to King James himself For whereas the Duke of Lennox as Admiral of Scotland had by order from the Majesty of King James in the year 1616 sent one Mr. Brown to demand of the Hollanders then fishing on the Coasts of Scotland a certain ancient Duty called Size Herring they began to contest with him about it and after a long disputation they paid it as in former times it had been accustomed but not without some affronting terms That it was the last time it should be paid And it is most certain that the same Gentleman coming the year following with the same Authority and Commandment with one only Ship of His Majesty 's to demand the Duty aforesaid but by them he was denied it who as plainly as peremptorily told him That they were commanded by the States of Holland to pay it no more to the King of England Of which he took witness according to his Order from His Majesty This taking of witness did so startle them that without any more ado they pretended an Order to arrest him and so they carried him into Holland where a while he was detain'd Nay a little while after such was their insufferable abuse that when Mr. Archibald Ranthim a Scotch Gentleman and residing at Stockholm in Sweden where he sollicited for some sums of money due to the English Merchants at the same time in the same City was one Vandyke lying there as an Agent for the States of Holland who said unto some principal persons of the Swedes That they need not be so hasty in paying any moneys to the subjects of the King of England or to give them any high respect because the said Kings Promises were not to be believed nor his threatnings to be feared For which vile and insolent speeches being afterwards challenged by Mr. Ranthim he had no better excuse than to say He was drunk when he spake those words And by this means his excuse of playing the Beast did excuse him from playing the Man Now from these insolent Affronts by words let us proceed and come to what they have done by deeds more than what I have already declared in my preceding Discourse where in the first place we may observe their rude demeanour to out English Nation in the Northern Seas on the Coasts of Greenland and those parts about the fishing for Whales and the Commodity of Trayn-oyl where violently they have offered unpardonable abuses in an hostile manner driving the English away to their great loss and prejudice Their pride of heart was so high that it would not give their Reason leave to apprehend That Fishing at Sea is free for every man where it is not upon the Coast of any Countrey unto which the Dominion of the Sea belongeth by ancient Prerogative And yet all this is but inconsiderable in regard of their usage of our English in the East Indies where in open Hostility they have as fiercely set upon them as if they had been most mortal Enemies having in several Encounters slain many of our Men and sunk sundry of our Ships and when they had taken our men Prisoners they would use them in the sight of the Indians in such a contemptible and disdainful manner as if it at their own home and all places else the English in respect of them were but a sordid and slavish Nation and the Hollanders were either their Superiors and might use them at their own pleasure or the English were so spiritless or so unpowerful that they durst not be revenged but quietly must put up all the Affronts and Injuries which they received at their hands And as for the commodious and profitable Trade which the English have had in Muscovy for above these fourscore years and some other Countreys that lye upon the East and North which the Hollanders have now gotten quite out of their hands to the great grief and prejudice of several Merchants in London What shall we say seeing not long since they have been acting the same again with our English Merchants in Turkey And it is a practice so usual with them to spoil the Trade of other Nations that when they cannot find any occasion to do it they will show a nature so wretchedly barbarous that they will not stick to spoil one another And yet all this proceedeth out of an ignoble and sordid spirit for let them arrive to what wealth they will they can never be the Masters of a Noble and Generous Disposition Had it not been for their Neighbouring Nation of the English they had never arrived to the liberty of a free State yet so ingrateful have they been that they have endeavoured to forget all the Obligations of Humanity and have digged into the very bowels of those who did preserve them So many Examples of this nature may be instanced that I am forced to omit them for want of room The Perfidiousness and Ingratitude of the Hollanders to the English may be traced all along ever since they shook off their obedience to the King of Spain even unto this present time But we will pass from their Hypocrisie and Cruelty practised abroad and look on their actions at home How almost but the other day did they labour to impose upon His Majesty and Sir George Downing his Envoy Extraordinary by delivering Papers to many publick Ministers of State at the Hague as if his Majesty and his Envoy had been pre-possessed with them when they had not the least notice of any such thing How have they seemed to be most desirous of Peace when at the same
prompt their precipitate indeavours but if they think that our God above is deaf and doth not hear the loud cryes of the injured and oppressed and that his Vice-gerent here on Earth the King of England will not endeavour the redress of his abused Person and People they are worse then that impudent Impostor who in despight of his Saviour threw his dagger into the air as if he would have stab'd Heaven therewith but was at last forc't to confess Vincisti me Galilaee They will now find I hope a good God to direct a great and gracious Prince how to punish such a vild and ingrateful People not so supinous or careless as the Dutch abusively have pictured him with his hand in his Pockets as an idle-spectator looking on his Ships as they burn'd at Chatham I confess it was a suddain hot Feaverish fit and unexpected but let them have a care they have not many thousand shaking cold ones for it Nec Surdum nec Tiresiam quenquam esse Deorum They 'l find None of the Gods are either deaf or blind But to return where I left off my passion carrying me a little from my present subject though not from the present purpose Our Ambassadour complaining of this behaviour after two years sollicitation obtained an Order for the performance of these Articles but Commissioners being sent and two Ships to bring our Men away the Hollanders according to their former practises sent private Orders contradictory to these they had owned in publick whereby our Commissioners journy thither was to no other effect then to bring away the poorer sort of people and the prayers and cries of the wealthier for releif out of that captivity Whither this practice participate not of the Nature of Hell I will give any rational Man leave to judge since the mouth of that infernal place stands alwaies gaping to receive but will let none out Thus notwithstanding his Majesty made complaints by Letters to the States of Holland of this unjust detention yet never received one word of satisfaction It is not to be wondred that they venture on these outrages upon the English in remote parts when they dare be so bold with his Majesties Royal Person in their abusive pictures so grosly that as it is not fit to be named so none but a beastly boarish Flemming would do it But let De Wit look to it he that would have the States of Hollands Arms over his head and that of England pictured under his feet I question not but he will find that the Belgick Lyon with his crack't Sheafe of Arrowes cannot defend his sides from being gored by the Enlish Unicorn Yet still see is in bearing these Majesty was and still is in bearing these matchless contumelies and abuses represented in Pictures false Historical Medals and Pillars this one would think sufficient to exasperate his Majestie into an high displeasure since it is so evilly rescented by all his Majesties loving Subjects and will undoubtedly be revenged but his Majesty graciously declares it is not what relates to his particular Self but the safety of our Trade upon which the wealth and prosperity of England depends the preservation of his people abroad from violence and oppression and the Hollanders daring to affront us almost within our very Ports which move his just indignation against them and what English-man will not be assisting with his life and estate in so just a cause wherein the honour of his King and the welfare and safety of all his temporal concerns consist surely if we have left any thing of an English spirit we cannot but be herein active and as England never wanted men of courage so I hope she will not want power if confidence may be put in the Arm of flesh to chastise the Insolencies of our Enemies Who would have thought they durst have disputed the right of the Flag a Prerogative so Ancient it was one of the first of his Majesties Predecessors and ought to be the last from which this Kingdome should ever depart it was heretofore by them never questioned and I know not how it should it was expresly acknowledged in the Treaty at Breda and yet it was not only violated last Summer but afterwards justified and represented by them abroad as ridiculous for us to demand His Majestic may well call this an ungrateful insolence since in the time of King James and King Charles they never left cringing till they got a permission to fish in our Narrow Seas and thought it an high obligation although they paid a large Tribute for so doing large did I call it no but small considering the vast benefit that did accrew unto them thereby And now I think it will not be amiss here in this place to give you some account of this fishing-trade according to my best information The Coasts of Great Britain do yeild such a continual Sea-harvest to all those who with diligence labour in the same that no time or season elapseth in the year in which industrious men may not employ themselves in fishing which continueth from the beginning of the year to the latter end in some Port or other upon Coasts and therein such infinite shoales of Fishes are offered to the Takers as may justly move admiration the Hollander I am sure is not ignorant hereof The Summer fishing for Herrings begins about Midsummer and lasteth to the latter end of August the Winter fishing for Herring lasteth from September to the mid'st of November both which extend from Bughoness in Scotland to the Thames mouth The fishing for Cod at Almby Wirkinton and White-haven from Easter to Whitsontide The Fishing of Hake at Haberdeny Abarswith and other places between Wales and Ireland from Whitsontide to Saint James-tide The Fishing of Cod and Ling about Padstow within the Lands and Severn from Christ-tide to Midlent The Fishing for Cod on the West part of Ireland from the beginning of April to the latter end of June The Fishing of Pilchars on the West of England from St. James-tide to September The Fishing for great Scalping and many other sorts of Fish about the Islands of Scotland and in several parts of the Brittish Seas all the year long And that you may know what plenty of fish we have in our Seas not many years since upon the Coasts of Devonshire in one day were taken five hundred Tun of fish and about the same time three thousand pounds worth of fish in one day were taken at St. Ives by Cornwal in small Boats others of the same Party adventuring in a Calm among the Holland Busses not far from Robinhoods-bay returned presently to Whitby full fraught with Herrings and reported that they saw some of those Busses take ten twenty and four and twenty Lasts of Herrings at a draught most of them returning with an hundred Lasts of Herrings in one Buss into Holland At another time it was observed that a Fleet of Colliers returning from New-Castle to London about the Well
near Flamborough-head met with such multitude of Cod Ling and Herrings that one among the rest drew up in a small time as many as were sold for neer upon as much as her whole lading of Coales amounted to and some hundreds of Ships might have been there laden in two dayes and two nights Out of which wonderful affluence and abundance of Fish swarming upon our Seas that we the better perceive the infinite gain which the Dutch make thereof and by that means how infinitely beholding they unto us I shall insist upon the number of fishing Vessels they have formerly and lately imployed upon our coasts and by their vast income how they have increased in Shipping in Mariners in Trade in Towns and Fortifications in Power abroad in publick Revenue in private Wealth and lastly in all manner of Provisions and store of things necessary How poor and low these Hoghen Moghens were in Q. Elizabeths time is unknown to few at which time France tyred with labour the striving of her own Children had caused in the bowels of her state and child by the cold distrust conceived of the revolted Hollanders success rebelling against their lawful Soveraign deserted them into despair as well as other Neighbouring Princes then may they remember how England opened her tender arms to receive their Fugitives and her purse to pay their Soldiers so that a foot of ground cannot be called theirs that owes not a third part to the expence Valour or Counsel of the English of whom such glorious spirits have expired in their defence as have been thought at too too mean a rate to double the value of what they thought for Did not the English dispute their Title at Ostend till they had no Earth to plead on the very ground failing them before their Vallours yet whilst fighting there not only against the Flower of the Spanish Army but the Plague Hunger and cold despair so that it may be said without Hyperbole the Nobility and Gentry Queen Elizabeth lost doubled the number the cruelty of Spains great Philip had left you The Assistance that wise Queen gave them was good self-policy she made them able to defend themselves against Spain and was so at the Pole but they who inable them to offend others as her successors have done have gone beyond it questionless had this Thorne been removed out of the Spaniards side he might have been feared too soon to grasp his long intended Monarchy were the Spaniard possessed Lord of the Low-Countries or had the States General the wealth and power of Spain the rest of Europe might be like a People at Sea in a Ship on Fire that could only chuse whither they would drown or burn We have cherished this starveling Viper too long in our warm bosomes and now doth not only hiss at but indeavour to sting those who brought them to life from almost an irremediless condition Since we succoured them abroad and gave them leave to fish in our Seas pray consider their vast increase of Shipping They had many years since seven hundred Strand-boats four hundred Evars and four hundred Gallies Drivers and Jod-boats wherewith the Hollanders fisht on their Coasts every one of these employing another Ship to fetch Salt and carry the Fish into their own Country being in all three thousand sail maintaining and setting at work at least fourty thousand Persons Fishers Tradesmen Women and Children Besides they have an hundred Dager-boats one hundred and fifty tuns a peice or thereabouts seven hundred Pinds and Well-boats from sixty to an hundred tuns a peice which altogether fish upon the Sea of England and Scotland for Cod and Ling only and these too for the most employ other Ships to bring them Salt and carry the Fish home making in all sixteen hundred Ships which maintain and imploy at least four thousand Persons of all sorts For the Herring season they have at least sixteen hundred Busses all of them only fishing on our Coasts and every one of these maketh work for three other Ships which attend her the one to bring in Salt from forrein parts the other to carry that Salt and Cask to the Busses and to bring back the Herrings and the third to transport the said Fish into forreign Countries so that the total number plying the Herring-fishing is six thousand four hundred Moreover they have four hundred Vessels at least that take Herring at Yarmouth and there sell them for ready-money so that the Hollander besides their three hundred Ships fishing on their Coasts have at least eight thousand and four hundred Ships only maintained by the Seas of Great Britain by the which means principally Holland being not so big as one of our Shires in England conteining not above twenty eight miles in length and twenty three in bredth have increased the number of their Shipping to at least ten thousand sail and to that number they add in a manner daily although the Country it self affords them neither Materials nor Victuals nor Merchandise to be accounted of towards their setting forth Secondly let us consider the increase of their Mariners from the number of their Ships fishing on our Coasts which as we said before were eight thousand four hundred we must allow more hands to the fishing concern then for bare sailing if suppose ten men to every ship one with another the total of Marriners and Fishers will amount to fourscore and four thousand out of which number they continually furnish their longer Voyages to all parts of the World for by this they are not only inabled to brook the Sea and to know the use of the Tackle and Compass but are likewise instructed in Trade and in the Principles of Navigation and Pilotage insomuch as their chiefest Navigators have had from home their education and breeding and hence they are become as skilful and knowing in all the Sands Sholes Creeks and Channels belonging to our Coasts as the best of our Pilots Thirdly by reason of those multitudes of Ships and Mariners they have extended their Trade to all parts of the world and therein to speak the truth have out-thrown all ever yet have used the Sea many Bars length exporting in most of their Voyages Herring and other Fish returning in exchange the several commodities of other Countries From the Southern parts as France Spain and Portugal for our Herrings they return Oyl Wine Prunes Hony Wool Grain with store of forraign coyn from the Streights Velvets Sattins and all sorts of Silk Allom Currants all Grocery ware with much Money From the East Country for our Herrings they bring home Corn Wax Flax Hemph Pitch Tar Soap-ashes Iron Copper Steel Clap-board Wainscoate Masts Timber Deal-boards Polish-dollars and Hungary-gilders From Germany for Herrings and other Salt-fish Iron Steel Glass Mill-stones Rhenish-wines Battery-plate for Armour with other munitions also Silk Velvets Rashes Fustians Poratoes and such like Frankfort Commodities with store of Rixdollars From Brabant they return for the most part ready-Money with
his being cast in his passage out of Spain as his Father Charles the Fifth was upon the British shore knowing the English were cordial in your preservation then ever to suffer him to come and goe in Peace when he came on so bloody an errand 6. And though he as a Magnanimous Prince and so great a Monarch as he was yet he did often desire his Sister of England to hear his just defence for his so rigorous proceedings She refusing to dispute the truth of your complaints presuming it more probable for a stranger to be a Tyrant then that the Natural Inhabitants upon a slighter cause cast themselves into the no less bloody then scorching flames of a Civil and uncertain War She seeming rather to forget the Obligations She owed him either as a private Person or Brother when he was King of England then her Neighbours oppressions I shall not need here draw blood in your faces by application your Consciences if you have any such thing left will do it for me 7. Were not your messengers received into England in the quality of Embassadors they being then too modest to own higher Titles then of Poor Petitioners casting themselves prostrate at the feet of no less Potent Tribunal then what you were admitted to in the quality of Embassadors the other day and the which you now fight against at which time I blush to think thereof your Embassadors was pleased to say that in this conjuncture they would condescend to strike to Us if we would assist them against the French but upon condition that it should never be taken for a President here after to their prejudice this was such a condition which would soon have reduced us to a miserable and contemptible condition Did not your Embassadour forget himself what and where he was to be admitted into the quality of an Ambassadour was an honour you could never have attained to but through the Clemency of a gratious Prince your Messengers in the same quality but narrowly escap'd the Gallowes when they went with their Petition to his Catholick Majesty And did not his late Sacred Majesty out of his Princely goodness imbroider your Messengers with Titles unworthy such ingratitudes as you afterwards shewed him and his against your Alliance then made and professed 8. Have you not opened your Arms to receive those into your Councils and pay that even the whole World doth blush at the reflection of so horrid an Act such is it that tears fall on my Pen at its Relation as if it should say thou art not able to express blackness Wherein Holland canst thou glory not with colouring it with a charitable Protection O no! Then what satisfaction can you give the World or fancy to your selves when you shew a President how to protect the most horrid Regicide that ever drew breath such as are culpable of no less crime then the blood of the best of Kings and one who espoused you as it were into his Royal Family 9. Nay see farther your ingratitude that no sooner Providence had measured out the Kingdom into Peace by restoring our dread Soveraign unto his undoubted Right and the words of a firm Alliance and Amity concluded betwixt him and you scarce cold in his mouth but what wonderful outrages you committed on our Ships and Merchants in allmost all places and Ports where you could either find or meet them but especially there where you were able to treble the English power and strength who if equally but Man'd or Shipt would have reduced your Brandy-courages into that combustion which they say that Wine bears and that only by its flames to behold your own ruines nay such was your ingratitude as if nothing were more indifferent to you then who were happy so England were miserable 10. If you were not willing for those many years to come stealing and bribeing the Usurpers so long for your fishing why should you be so tutchy now with such as inquire whether it was worth your cost or their honour to defend the propriety thereof to the utmost hazard of their lives and fortunes I understand that the late Usurpers did not only give you the fish but baits to catch them Lampries I mean loaden by boat-fulls out of the Thames which they would never have done had they been as full of circumspection as that Creature is reported to be of eyes this kindness to you as all other kindnesses shown to you use to do made you so insolent as to fly in their face sor which they were forced to bring you into better manners witness the several Victories they obtained over you in the year 1652. But more especially that neer Portland wherein you were totally overthrown imputing your want of success to want of powder but I think those few of yours which were left they sent home with a powder Lastly all this considered why may not his Majesty assume to himself the rights of disposure and regulation of that which is undoubtedly his own and why may he not take till by you that never questioned style of Lord of the British Ocean as well as you at Guiny and the East-Indies that strive with your Maker who shall be most High and Mighty With these Expostulations pray take some of these following Queries Some pertinent and necessary Queries to the present Subject 1. What other Alliance can afford you so safe Harbourage in case of foul weather at Sea as England Scotland and Ireland if none whether contingencies driven in by storm under our shelter your West and East India and Straits men may not exceed all the Coales and Tobbacco Prizes De Ruyter or any under him shall scrape up in his Naval expedition If the raising a Flying Army in the Netherlands may not one time or other be reduced to such a faction especially when headed by one that cannot keep the same Consort with you as to cause the resolving you into the first Principles of both Poor Distressed and Oppressed Nay it may be further reduce you to be Vassals to some of your right or left hand Neighbours whose aim is wholly to root up that Vine which they perceive is likely to ecclipse but more willing to destory the glories of their rights and benefits of their Traffick and Trade 3. If Venice may not unproperly be called the Signet on Neptunes right hand whether England and the Netherlands being in a strait confederacy may not be styled his two Arms By which in relation to their shipping he embraceth the Universe 4. Whether your Maiden Towns as you call them may not longer enjoy that Title under the Alliance of England who hath many more rich and beautiful Havens and Harbours then any other Neighbouring Nation 5. Whether the making an honourable Peace with England by complying with her just commands may not be accounted putting of Money to more than common Interest 6. In case it so happens whether their Wisdomes do not cease too dangerous and chargable Wars the which