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A71313 Vox cœli, or, Nevves from heaven Of a consultation there held by the high and mighty princes, King Hen.8. King Edw.6. Prince Henry. Queene Mary, Queene Elizabeth, and Queene Anne; wherein Spaines ambition and treacheries to most kingdomes and free estates in Europe, are vnmasked and truly represented, but more particularly towards England, and now more especially vnder the pretended match of Prince Charles, with the Infanta Dona Maria. Whereunto is annexed two letters written by Queene Mary from heauen, the one to Count Gondomar, the ambassadour of Spaine, the other to all the Romane Catholiques of England. Written by S.R.N.I. Reynolds, John, fl. 1621-1650.; Scott, Thomas, 1580?-1626, attributed name. 1624 (1624) STC 20946.8; STC 22096A; ESTC S114764 52,214 72

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the Oracle of the Netherlands but the Ornament and wonder of Europe ye●… of his time Q. E. See the fruites of Spaines Gold and the effects of his boundlesse Ambition for it is a common custome with him if not by the maine yet surely by the bye to breake the necke of Great Princes and free Estates publique Ministers whether they are great Souldiers or great Statesmen or both Q. A. Yea the Web of this Treason was so cunningly wouen and so subtilly and finely spun as if the Netherlands had not broken Barne●…elts necke he long ere this had assuredly broken the necke both of their libertie and State Q. M. Well Barnauelt is gone and now Spaine needs not feare his policy P. H. Nay Barneuelt being dead and Maurice that famous Prince of Orenge liuing Holland need not feare either the trechetie or force of Spaine H. 8. But Nephew I heare that the Vnited Prouinces of the Low-Countries will this Spring haue Warres with Spaine for their peace is neere expired and ended P. H. A braue noble and wise resolution of theirs E. 6. Heretofore England taught the Hollanders wit and valour and now they resolue to shew England the way to those two Vertues Q. M. But the Gold and Siluer of Spaine w●…ll preuaile against them and weigh them downe P. H. But the Hollanders had Ships enough of their owne and Gold Siluer and Men from England therefore they disdaine to feare Spaine nay rather they vow before the next Summer to make Spaine feare them H. 8. See see a handfull of men dare attempt that against Spaine which Great Brittaines huge infinitie will not Q. E. And yet their cause and reason is Englands viz. their Consciences Liues and Countries Q. A. Pray God England and France interpose not to crosse the Warres and seeke to conclude a Peace betwixt Holland and Spaine E. 6. But the Hollanders are resolued to make King Iames a large Offer to protect them against Spaine Q. M. But King Iames loues Spaine too well and therefore will not hearken to or regard their proffer for his Maiestie is resolued not to protect them P. H. The more is the pitty Q. E. The more my griefe Q. M. And without griefe or pitty the more is my ioy Q. E. I protected the Netherlands in despight of Spaine E. 6. But Spaine went neere by your Leicester to betray both you and them H. 8. If King Iames would now protect the Netherlanders how easily might he refetch backe Flushing the Brill and the 〈◊〉 E. 6. Nay how easily did his Maiestie depart with them to the Netherlands P. H. It infinitely reioyceth me to vnderstand the Hollanders braue resolution and forwardnesse to haue warres with Spaine Q. M. But there is a secret tricke to coole their courages which they least thinke of H. 8. As how Daughter Q. M. Why to Pistoll this Prince of Orenge as they did his Fat●…er Q. E. Heauen forbid it P. H. God defend it Q. M. Why 't is but one for another for he knowing Barnauelt a Traytor to his Countr●…y because a Pensioner to Spaine caused the Lords States to put him to death why then in exchange and requitall should not a Pensioner of Spaine either poison or pistoll the Prince of Orange E. 6. These Diabolicall resolutions and bloudy Positions come from Hell Q. E. And thither they goe that professe and practise them Q. M. The King of Spaine is too religious to authorise so execrable a Murther Q. E. But the Pope as holy as he is will pardon it and yet the World I hope knowes that the K●…of Spaine cannot be so religious as his Holinesse Q. A. It were good then for Holland to be carefull of their Prince of Orange his life as all the world knowes his Excellency is of their safetie and preseruations P. H. And it will likhwise behooue them to obserue withall as I hope they doe how subtilly and trecherously Spinola takes their neighbour Townes for the Emperour and keepes them for the King of Spaine his Master E. 6. And if the Warres goe on 'twixt Holland and Spaine as I hope they will it will be needfull for Spaine to haue a speciall care of his West-Indies from the Holland Fleetes H. 8. Wherefore only Spaines West-Indies or rather why not all the worlds West-Indies sith their red and white earth sets all the Would on fire and in Combustion Q. ●… Surely ere this Summer passe and the next appeare the Hollanders vow to haue a heaue at them Q. M. Nay I hope the contrary for the West-Indies is the maine and onely prop of Spaine which if once found out and taken away from them will quickly make the greatnesse of his Ambition and Empire totter P. H. Till when all other Kingdomes and Estates of Christendome may thinke themselues exempt from Spaines feare but shall neuer be from his danger Q. E. This Holland perfectly and apparantly knowes and it were a greater happinesse for the rest of Europe if they would herein imitate their Generositie Valour and Wisedome who stand on their Guards with their swords drawne and their Match lighted ready to giue fire as being constantly and vertuously resolued neither to loue trust nor feare Spaine ENGLAND H. 8. But now leaue we all other Countries and come wee to England from whence being descended wee by the Lawes of Nature are eternally obliged to honour and loue it yea to preferre it and its prosperitie and glory to all other Countries of the world wherefore let vs see Spaines Ambition and Enuy towards it and how he hath from time to time borne himselfe to the English Q. M. There is no Kingdome in the world that Spaine loues better then England Q. E. Nor no people vnder the Sunne that it hates more then Englishmen E. 6. For Peter King of Castille most ingratefully and basely abused our famous and generous Edward the Blacke Prince the Ornament of Armes the Glory of England and the Honour of the World and his whole Army in Spaine after that he had inthronised and seated the said Peter in his Kingdome and with his Victorious Armes expel'd Henry the Bastard who Vsurped it Q. M. If Spaine had not loued England and Englishmen King Philip would neuer haue married mee Q. E. Hee loued you well Sister but your Kingdome farre better for you were the Obiect of his zeale but England that of his Ambition H. 8. But Elizabeth hee hated you more then euer he loued Mary Q. E. And yet I dare truly affirme that King Philip loued my Kingdome farre more then euer he hated my Per●…on H. 8. To speake truth Daughter he neither loued you nor Mary his wife and Queene but only England P. H. And I haue heard that if he had neuer married my Aunt Mary shee had neuer lost Calais nor consequently England France E. 6. Though that Match were vnfortunate to England in the losse of Calais yet it was fortunate in that Philip and Mary had no Children Q.
Pope the King of Spaine Gond●…mar and all our Recusants will come short of their hopes for the Match H. 8. Daughter what benefits proposed you to the Parliament by your Match with Spaine Q. M. Strength Profit Honour which England King Iames and Prince Charles will likewise now finde if the Match hold E. 6. As for strength if England would know its selfe it neede not expect or hope for any from Spaine for Spaines assistance hath alwayes proued fatall and ruinous to those who haue vsed it And if England would assume the ancient generosity of her Ancestors and forsake her new fangled pride and prodigality Wee know it is strong enough to beat Spaine and all his Kingdomes and Prouinces and no way so weake to feare that Spaine should make England a Prouince for it were farre safer for England and Englishmen if they wore worse cloathes and had better hearts and swords and if they were more martiall and lesse effeminate Q. E. For Profit what Indies is richer then England for if England want money herselfe is still more powerfull and capable to inrich it selfe if it would be lesse vaine and more frugall and industrious c. what is a few hundred thousand Pounds to England if England be thereby exposed to the danger of Spaine or that it b●… againe fetcht from them by the Bye as it was brought in by the Maine for was profit euer cheape when it was bought with losse and repentance with teares and blood or shall not euery Ducket be weighed and counterpoised downe with a farre greater preiudice and inconueniency for if the Match hold will not our Recusants looke a loo●…e will not Spaniards bee so ambitiously insolent to attempt to out-looke English will not the Pope steale in by degrees and the King of Spaine breake in either like a torrent or a thunderbolt when his factors and agents haue made all things ripe and in a readinesse will this be Englands profit P. H. For Honour England and Scotland were Free Royall and ancient Monarchies when indeed Spaine was not Spaine but disioynted and disseuered Prouinces yea for Pompe State and Glory our Princes were Kings when their Kings were scarce Princes nor their Princes Nobles Therefore GREAT BRITTAINE by the Match can conferre and adde honour to Spaine but not Spaine to GREAT BRITTAINE Q. A. I could neuer yet affect the match of Spaine for either of the two Princes my Sonnes for the Spaniard is by nature as trecherous as proud and although Northampton perswaded me thereto yet I loued true-hearted Salisbury who alwayes diuerted me from it as in the depth of his Allegiance and the profunditie of his wisdome and Iudgement well fore-seeing they would proue ●…atall and ruinous to England E. 6. It is strange to see with what insatiable desire and Ambition Spaine couets England for hee hath already attempted it by trechery by force and now by the Match of his Daughter the Infanta to Prince Charles Q. M. You meane King Philip the 2. and not this present King Philip the third And as Don Iuan de Taris the Ambassadour of Spaine told King Iames at his first comming to the Crowne of England that the Ambition and malice of Spaine to England dyed with that Prince and was interred and buryed with him Q. E. But was this King Philip the third and his Councell neuer acquainted with that horrible Gunpowder Treason whereby it was intended and resolued that England should haue beene blowne vp ouerthrowne and ruined in a moment Q. M. O no he is too Catholique a King to haue hearkened much lesse to haue approued that Passionate plot Q. E. You might haue said that execrable and damnable plot of Treason but that you will seeke to diminish and extenuate Rome and Spaines Treasons Q. M. You infinitely wrong the Pope and King of Spaine to suspect much lesse to beleeue that they were acquainted with that Powder plot Q. E. No went not Faulkes that hellish Incendary once to Rome about it and the younger Winter twice to Vallidolide Q. M. Yea about some other businesse it may be although I must confesse it was very immediatly before that Treason was discouered P. H. Gondomar told me that both the Pope and King of Spaine abhord that Treason Q. A. I feare they abhord it for griefe it tooke not effect Q. M. If euer this King Philip hated England yee may be sure now he loues it for else he would neuer seeke to match his Daughter to it Q. E. What force and treachery cannot effect now affection in the match shall Wherein King Philip is of Lysanders minde who when the Lyons skinne will not serue he will sowe on a peece of the Foxes tayle E. 6. So he come into England he cares not by which way he ariue P. H. So the Daughter come not into England England neede not feare the comming of the Father Q. M. Count Gondomar will beate his head and his horse shoes but he will bring in the Daughter and already his hopes and the probabilities are great for he is exceeding great and familiar with King IAMES Q. E. Else he could neuer haue gotten open the Prison dores for the Romane Priests and Iesuites P. H. Nor haue made Raleighs head to caper beyond his body Q. A. Nor haue kept back an Army from my Sonne and Daughter the King and Queene of Bohemia when so many hundred thousand valiant English Souldiers desired and longed to haue serued them in their warres Q. E. Nor haue shipt away so great a quantitie of Ordnance for Spaine which one of these dayes will returne bullets to our hearts E. 6. Nor haue procured a gallant Fleete to secure the Coast of Spaine against the Turkish Pyrates vndeer coulour of going to Argier and Barbary P. H. That Fleete was fitter to haue gone to Mexico Q. A. So indeed it might haue returned with glory and Gold whereas now I feare it will with losse and repentance I will not say with shame Q. E. I know by Experience it is an excellent thing for England to fight with Spaniards but not to ioyne with Spaniards against others P. H. Why should not our English Fleetes goe for the West Indies Q M. If this proposition be broached then Gandomar will run madde E 6. What difference is there betwixt the East and West Indies P. H. As much as there is betweene Pepper and Siluer or white Feathers and yellow Gold H. 8. O but England neere this twenty yeares hath lost those golden times of going to the Gardens of Hesperides P. H. And now Holland after ten yeares tryall and patience resolues to finde them Q. E. Now we speake of Holland It againe exceedingly grieues me that England goes from Holland in that it will not protect it against Spaine Q. M. And truely it is my ioy and comfort to vnderstand it for the farther England goes from Holland I am sure the neerer Spaine comes to England P. H. Nay if the Match hold Holland can expect
no assistance from England for the Pope the King of Spaine Gondomar the Iesuites and English Recusants will in few yeares so shuffle and deale the cards as England shall not bee able to assist herselfe much lesse her Neighbours E. 6. Why that is the way in a few more yeares to make England a Prouince to Spaine Q. E. Yea yea there is the mysterie for if the match with Spaine hold the conquest of England will vndoubtedly follow then Gondomar can be no lesse then Vice-roy or great Commander of England for the King and Councell of Spaine will iudge him worthy of this honour because he hath deserued it P. H. It were better Spaine were Hell and Gondomar Vice-roy to the Diuell as he is now Ambassadour to the Catholicke King Q. A. But is it possible that the King of Spaine hath so little Iustice and charity and so much vanitie and ambition to desire it E. 6. The Kings of Spaine make this the tenth Article of their Creed that the Rules of Empire and State ought to giue Lawes but not to receiue any Q. E. But this is contrary to the Lawes of the KING of Kings Q. M. But in the Counsell of Spaine the Rules of State are alwaies too sublime and powerfull for those of Religion yea the Pope will easily dispence with the King of Spaine to make a Conquest of England either by treachery hostilitie or the match for it is against an Heriticke King and people who refuse to enter into the bosome of the Church and therefore lawfull in it selfe because it tends to the Catholique cause the displanting and rooting out of Heretikes and the establishing and pres●…uation of the Romane Catholikes in England Q. E. Those giddy and passionate Romane Catholiques of England who disire to fish in troubled waters who delight in nothing but in innouation and nouelty and who make a May-game of Conscience and an Ape of Religion may peraduenture flatter themselues with the false sunne-shine of these hopes but those of them whose hearts are better lodged and whose eyes and iudgements can see farther and clearer Those I say who know by the Lawes of Grcae and Nature what they owe to GOD to their lawfull Prince and Country those remember that the Duke of Medina Sydonta said in eighty eight who was then Generall of the Spanish Fleete that his Commission was not to distinguish of Religion but to make a passage with his Sword ore both Religions without exception that thereby the King his Master might haue the easier way and fairer passage to the Crowne and Kingdome of England Therefore wee neede no perspectiue Glasse or Spectacles to see that it is not the establishing of the Romane Religion but of himselfe in England whereat the King of Spaine still aymes Q. M. 〈◊〉 Count Gondomar is wise enough to prouide a playster for that sore for hee in netling the Nobler sort of Catholiques with the match hath in plaine tearmes giuen the lye to the Duke of Medina his speech and therefore he hopes they will beleeue him P. H. The nobler and more passionate and factious sort of them may beleeue Gondomnr herein but the wiser temporate and conscious will not and yet the Feminine Gender are Masculine sticklers and solicitors for him as hee and the Iesuites are for the King his Master Q. E. Nay the Romane Catholikes of England haue reason to beleeue Gondomar sith King IAMES loues him well as hee esteemes his speeches Oracles and Scripture and who with the quintessence of his Castillian or rather Galician braine hath now brought matters to this passe that no sincere aduise honest Letter Religious Sermon or true picture can point at the King of Spaine but they are called in and their Authors imprisoned in sted of rewarded though neuer so honest and loyall Subiects H. 8. But me thinkes that this is no subtill policie of Gondamar for the more he striues to suppresse the truth the more it will flourish and preuaile For for the good of England if one penne or tongue bee commaunded to silence they will occasion and set tenne at libertie to write and speake as Grasse or Cammomell which the more it is depressed the thicker it will spread and grow Q. M. But hath not Gondomar reason to strike whiles he findes the Iron hot and to take the benefit of the floud before the ebbe come or the tide be spent Q. A. Indeed they say hee reports that this Summer time the ayre of London and Islington is not sweete enough either for his Fistula or perfumed braine and that hee hath thereforefore gotten leaue of his Maiestie to lodge in a part of his Pallace of Greenwich which stands in so pure an Ayre vpon the pleasant Christall Riuer of Thames Q. E. That were a presumptuous part of Gondomar indeed to aspire to lodge in that pleasant and Royall Pallace of Greenwich Q M. But if it bee so I thinke it is not to lodge there himselfe but onely to square out the Infanta's Lodgings her Chamber of Presence and a Plot to build her Grace a Chappell against shee come whereof Iones Sir Innigo hath already the Modell in his braines P. H. If King IAMES my Father lodge Gondomar this Summer in Greenwich the next King Philip himselfe will hope to lye in White-Hall E 6. Nay soft first let his Daughter the Infanta come for shee must breake the Ice ere his Catholique Maiestie will dare aduenture to come passe the Seas hither Q. M. Aduenture to come why wherefore else saith Count Gondomar lyes King IAMES his Fleete at Alciant and Carthagena but to transport her for England this Summer Q. E. Vntill I am enforced to vnderstand that that Fleete is at Lisbone the Groyne or Saint Andera I will not beleeue it but then I will feare it Q. M. So the Heretike Protestants of France feared their Spanish matches and yet we see they prosper Q. A. It is the end which crownes the beginning not the beginning the end of a worke Q. E. What speake you Sister of the French matches with Spain●… to this of England and Spaine for all the World knowes that the Estates of England and France are Diametrically opposite in point of Religion for France hath fortie Papists for one Protestant and England fortie Prot-stants for one Papist Q. M. But those Protesting Heretikes of England will sing another tune when they see the King of Spaine hath made their Countrey his Prouince P. H. Heauen forbid that euer England should sing the tune of Spaines Ballad or Spaine liue so long to make England see that dismall and bloudy day Q. E It were farre better that Prince CHARLES were married to an English Milke-maid and the Infanta of Spaine mewed vp for a Nunne in a Cloyster Q A. Yea for how can my Sonne Prince CHARLES thinke the King of Spaine loues him when he sees that vnder-hand he is a mortall and professed Enemy to his Brother and Sister the King and Queene of
Bohemia Q. M. You mistake Madame for it is the Emperour Ferdinand and not King Philip that is their mortall Enemy P. H. If Philip had not vnder-hand powerfully assisted Ferdinand His Imperiall Maiestie had neither had legs to goe nor wings to flie into Prague and yet the King my Father will not asist his Son in Law King Frederick Q. A. Yes to recouer the Pallatinate if that were lost But Gondam●…r through his slye crouches and sugred insinuations hath extorred a hope and some say wrested a promise from King IAMES not to assist Bohemia but I hope the contrary Q. E. But will Spinola restore those townes he hath taken in the Pallatinate Q. M. Gondomar promised that Digby shall bring that home vnder his hand and seale onely he sayes t is fit that Spinola should be satisfied for his charges Q. E. That 's an old baffle and tricke of Spaine which vpon the matter will proue but a flat denyall Therefore if King IAMES please to hearken to my advise I would send an Army thither and re-fetch these Townes of the Pallatinate from Ferdinand Phillip Albertus and Bauari●… with the point of the sword in despight of Spinola Tilly and Cordo●…a P. H. If I were againe liuing in England I would so worke with the King my Father that this resolution of Queene Elizabeth should neuer dye but spedily bee put in execution for it is the safest cheapest shortest and honourablest way for England yea what would not England doe for my deare and Royall Sister of Bohemia if the King my Father would giue it the word of command Q. M. But content your selfe Nephew Count Gondomar hath promised that his Master King Phillip will giue King Iames content for his Townes of the Pallatinate Q. A. So Gondomar promised his Maiesty that Spinola should neuer attempt the Pallatinate and yet we see the contrary and being false in this how or what reason haue we to beleeue him to bee true in the match Q. M. England must beleeue him sith the King doth and will And herein I both triumph and glory P. H. Thus my Royall Father intreates where he should command and loues Spaine where he hath farre more reason to hate it Q. E And this is my truest griefe and deepest affliction that King Iames will still delight in contemplation when if his Maiesty will not all the world sees that King Phillip is vnder-hand deepe in actiō H. 8. It may be that King Iames thinkes King Phillip to be of Hanniballs minde who more feared Fabius not fighting then Marcellus fighting or of Pompe●… or of Marcus Crassus their opinion who were more afraid of C●…cero's gowne then of Caesars sword Q. M. Nothing lesse for King Phillip loues King Iames his Gowne and pen yet no way feares his sword Q. E. But if King Iames inherited my resolution as he doth my Kingdomes I would make Spaine feare his sword and Rome either loue or obey his pen and neuer consent to a Peace much lesse to the match Q. M. But why should King Philip feare King Iames his sword sith he neuer yet knew the way to drawe ir or why should his Catholike Maiesty feare the Counsell of England sith it is apparant to all the world that the eliment and delight of their King is bookes not battailes the pen not the pike H. 8. Why know you not Daughter that King IAMES hath lately established a Counsell of Warre and whereunto think you tends that Q. M. To peace I hope or rather assure my selfe Q. E. Then Sister you are of neere intelligence with Gondomar for not long since in one of his dispatches to Spaine he wrote the LL. of that Councell that they should not doubt nor feare of the Counsell or warre of England for it was said he but a scarre-Crow to feare not to hurt and would onely serue as a Vane on a house top rather for ornament then vse But if King IAMES were of my minde his Counsell of warre should strike rather then threaten and send a Royall Army into the bowels and heart of Castille ere they thought it could be ready to depart from the Ports of England Q. M. Not into Castille for then the peace were quite broken betwixt ENGLAND and SPAINE P. H. Why then into Bohemia the Pallatinate The Netherlands or the States of Uenice or wheresoeuer the Castillians Regiments disturbe the publique peace of Christendome E. 6. I see no reason to the contrary but England should be as soone in Armes and action as Spaine Q. E. But it is the inchanting melody of the match that brings England out of tune Q. M. But in this proposition and parlee of the match the King and Counsell of Spaine speake faire termes and giue reall not verball content to King Iames. Q. E. So did Philip your Husband and his Father by his Embassadours to mine at Bourbourg thereby to ●…ulle me a sleepe when his great Armado was in a manner ready to weigh Anchor and set Sayle from Lisbone to inuade me and my England Q. M. But King ●…Iames knowes Spaines affection and Gondomars sincerity to him and consequently to England in seeking this Match Q. A. But England knowes neither the affection of the Maister or the sincerity of the Seruant and therefore hath reason though not to feare yet to suspect both H. 8. It rather thinkes King Philip of Pericles his opinion and Ambition who desired that the ●…land in the port of Piree mought be remoued sith it was a moate and beame in his eye P. H. The morall is that Philip would 〈◊〉 England a prouince to Spaine but if the Match hold not Spaines Ambition Gondomars policie and both their treacherie will proue too weeke to performe so strong an execution Q M. Then the King of Spaine will hate Gondomar as much as he vaunts the King of England loues him But I must count Gondomar hath liued too long to dote or be made a Child in his old age P. H. No no Gondomar is too young to dot●… and too old to be a child therefore he is confident and sure that the Match will hold but withall he saieth the Parliament must be ended ere these Royall Nuptiall cerimonies can begin and I thinke so to E. 6. Indeed this Castillian Embassadour now sailes before winde and tide vnder fore sayle and maine top-sayle but very shortly he hopes to hoyst vp top and top-gallant P. H. He may chance to packe on so much sayle that he may at last crack the maine Mast of his policy or the maine stay of his hopes or be so busie and violent in the solicitation of this Match as he himselfe may giue himselfe a Shotte which may sinke either his reputation or iudgement or both betwixt winde and water Q. E. Intruth I found his predicessour Mendoza too busie and dangerous in my State and therefore I forbad him my presence and discharded him my Kingdom whereat I know not whether he or the King his Master more grieued
strueke such such amazment to the harts and terrour to the courages of Castille and her faint-hearted Castillians that euery Spanish Bird kept his owne Nest not powerfull enough to defend themselues much lesse to offend any and lest of all England who was then ●…n her Triumphes in her lustre in her glory P H. Grieue no more deare Aunt for the Nauy Royall of England for although Nottingam were remisse and carelesse herein yet braue Buckingham hath of late yeares set a new face on that Fleet and makes it not onely his delight but his glory to re-edifie and reforme them yea there is not a yeare passes him but hee brings some new forth from their Dockes and puts in other old although Cranfield resembling himselfe bites his lips at the charge thereof because he affirmes he hath other occasions to disburse and pay away the Kings Treasure Q. E. Nephew Wales I am glad to heare that Buckingham is so carefull of England Fleet-Royall and in very deed his Ambition Care and Zeale herein will infallibly purchase him much loue and honour of the whole Kingdome especially if he continue it H 8. Me thinks Scotland annexed and vnited to England should make it farre the stronger Q. E. But how can King Iames say England and Scotland is strong when he feares the powers of Spaine and will not know or beleeue his owne E. 6. Yea it were much honour to the King and happinesse to his Kingdomes and Subiects if in any poynt knowing the weakenesse thereof he would fortifie and reforme it Q. A. And it were a great happinesse for most Kingdomes and free Estates of Europe if they would follow the examples of the Venetians and Hollenders who will neither trust nor loue much lesse feare Spaine P. H. And among the rest if England would follow it they should drawe securitie out of danger whereas now her apparant danger is drawne and deriued from her apparant security Q. A. O that the King my Husband would thinke hereof P. H. O that the King my Father would make vse hereof Q. E. O that King Iames my Heire and Successour would not hearken or beleeue the contrary hereof H. 8. But this were the way to haue warres with Spaine and King Iames I vnderstand is resolued to liue and dye in peace with them Q. M. Warre cannot be bought at a cheape rate Q. E. But it is pitty that peace should be bought at too deare and dishonourable a rate P. H. I haue alwayes beene enformed that England still gets by her warres with Spaine Q. E. I got by my warres with Spaine and Spaine lost by it P. H. My Father and his Subiects lose by his Peace with Spaine and Spaine gets by it Q. M. When England hath lost her selfe she can lose no more Q. E. But Sister your death was the death of the Popes hopes and of Spaines pretences to England P. H. But they both seeme to reuiue and bud forth a fresh if the Match betweene my noble Brother P. Charles and the Infanta of Spaine take effect Q. A. May Heauen deny the first and the King your Father neuer consent to the second Q. E. So shall Spaine euer feare England but neuer England Spaine Q. M. But I hope the contrary for in these dayes the King of Spaines Gold and his Ambassadour Count Gondomar act wonders in England H. 8. Hath Gondomar propounded this Match to King Iames P. H. O long since and hee hath vowed to weare out his red leather Coach and greene Buckram Litter but he will see an end of it this Parliament Q. A. I thought indeede it was not for nothing that he makes Aesops Fables his daily pocket guest E. 6. How doth King Iames relish this Match Q. M. His Exchequer is poore and King Philips Indies rich and therfore his Maiestie likes it so well as he will hearken to no other H. 8. How doth Prince Charles himselfe like this motion P. H. I know not how my Brother likes it but for my part I should euer haue preferred a Daughter of Franc●… to that of Spaine and I hope the Match will not succeede because my noble Brother Prince Charles is wise valiant and generous E. 6. But how doth the braue and graue Parliament sauour this Spanish Match Q A. Fewe loue it most feare it But as the Match so the Parliament is not yet ended Q. E. This would be musicke indeede for the Romane Catholiques of England if it should take effect for the very first newes thereof made them flap their wings as if they were ready to crowe Q. M. Yea for they hope and which is more they know that if it proue a Match That the Infanta will soone introduce the Masse and Vsher in the Pope therefore they haue reason to reioyce at it P. H. But if the King of Spaine will not giue the summe which my Father King Iames demaunds will not they make it vp Q E. It is probable and credible That their Holy Father the Pope and themselues will stretch both their Purses and Credites to knit the Match H. 8. Why hath Gondomnr such power with King Iames to hope to see this Match effected Q. M. O yes for his Maiestie saith that his Master is an honest King and hee a wise Seruant The first all the world knowes and the second I hope England shall shortly feele at least if all hookes take P. H. Indeed if Gondomar can effect this match it is the direct way for him to be a Grande of Spaine and to procure a red Hat for his Sonne or Nephew Q. A. Was the Duke of Monteleone so rewarded for his French Matches Q. M. Hee is already a Grande of Spaine and hath the promise of a Hat Q. A. Why then Count Gondomar need not feare for hee hath as much policie as the Duke of Monteleone though not so much ost●…ntation H. 8. Who made and concluded the match with King Philip Q. M. My Selfe and the Parliament Q. E. Nay Sister put in Woolsey and Gardyner and leaue out the Parliament for you onely proposed it them but for forme and had secretly concluded it before hand your selfe Q. M. Suppose I did I might doe it of mine owne authority and prerogatiue Royall Q. E. But you offered no faire play to the Parliament though in asking their aduise when the Contracts were ready to be sealed Q. M. But I had reason to follow mine owne Iudgement not their Passions H. 8. Nay nay Daughter you contrariwise followed your owne passion not their Iudgements and so God gaue limits to Philips Ambition and your owne desires by making you ●…orsake Earth and he Eng●…and E. 6. But wise King Iames is opposite to my Sister Mary as well in Religion as sexe and therefore I hope nay I assure my selfe he will first consult this Match with his Parliament ere he conclude it with Spaine P. H. If the voyc●… of the Parliament be free and not enforced I make no doubt but the