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A09109 A temperate vvard-vvord, to the turbulent and seditious VVach-word of Sir Francis Hastinges knight vvho indeuoreth to slaunder the vvhole Catholique cause, & all professors therof, both at home and abrode. Reduced into eight seueral encounters, vvith a particuler speeche directed to the Lordes of her Maiesties most honorable Councel. To vvhome the arbitriment of the vvhole is remitted. By N.D. Parsons, Robert, 1546-1610. 1599 (1599) STC 19415; ESTC S114162 126,552 136

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parasite pratleth but vpon ●ome other cause giuen rather from England as himself after page 57. of his libel confesseth in these woords The king of Spain and Popes malice saith he to the Queen is not for that she is daughter to king Henry the eight and sister to Queen Marie but because she hath banished the Pope that Antechriste of Rome c. ergo the Q. began with the Pope and the Pope not with her But secondly let it be considered in what maner this banishment of the Pope was contriued that in this time of peace between Rome and England after the Queens entrance what was donn at home by vs against the Pope to stir him to this act of hostilitie First not only the whole body of religion was changed that had indured aboue a thowsand years and this contrarie to expectation and promes but diuers peculier statutes were made also against the Bishop of Rome by ●ame with the most spiteful and opprobrius woords termes that any malice of man could deuise all the whole Catholique body of England enforced to sweare against him and his authoritie by name or els to incur most greeuous and capital damages the like detestable othe was offered and repeated again and again to all such and as often as they were to take any degree of preferment within the land All the clergie was deposed and depriued of liuings libertie only for adhering to the Popes religiō the Bishops other principal prelates of our land committed to prisons holds and restraints for the same cause and there continued vnto their dying day for that they refused to subscribe to so violent a statute Then such as would leaue the realme or fle were inhibited those that staied at home were inforced to participate not only of these other but also eating new deuised Sacrament b●ead against their consciences condemned also and anathemazed by the lutherās first founders of this new religiō The Pope euery where was cried out of reuiled made a matter of scorne infamy not only in all sermons pulpits and conuenticles but also in comedies pl●ies and interludes by euery base and contemptible companion In the schooles of vniuersities most ridiculous propositions were set vp as paradoxes to be defended that the Pope forsooth was Antechriste the man of sinne talked of by S. Paule and other like toyes And that which moued perhaps more then all the rest was that these things were not only practised alowed of in England and Ireland subiect to her Maiestie but were begun to be introduced also by ou● meanes that is by the turbulent attempts and practises of protestants her Maiestie perhaps knowing litle therof in all the realmes and regions round about vs and namely in France Flanders and Scotland where the warres tumults rebellions deuisions sects heresies and other outrages came to be so many and excessiue great as the lawful● and naturàll princes of those contries seeing themselues so far indomaged and highly endaungered therby were inforced first of all to complain vnto the Pope as chief pastor and common father of all to vse such spirituall redresse as he might for his party in respect o● his ecclesiasticall souereigntie whilest they prepared also to defend● themselues and their troobled countries by force of armes Not malignitie then of the Pope and his adherents agaynst he● Maiesties crown and diadem wherunto willingly they had concur●● and assisted moued this first breach and bickering as this malignan● barking-whelp would beat into mens eares but necessities of great●● violence inforced the same And if perhaps we in England after the change made in religion had taken that course which Protestants did in Germany to follow our new opinions without gawling of others none of these open hostilities had euer insued And let this stand fo● the second notandum wherby is ouerthrown all this slanderous ca●lumniation of the kinght The third note may be to consider with indifferency what this ac● of the Popes excomunication is in it self or how far it may in reason and iustice without malice and calumniation be streched against th● Catholique subiects of England In it self it was an act of iurisdiction between two superiours th● one Ecclesiastical the other temporal wherin the subiects sentenc● or consent was neuer asked nor admitted Secondly it was no new thing for that we see and read that th● like hath happened often and vpon many occasions between th● Bishops of Rome and diuers other great princes common-wealthes Emperours Kings and monarchs and sometymes also with kings of England and of late with the king of France as all the world knoweth And yet the subiect is neither afflicted nor accused for it nor ●nforced to change their old receaued beleef about the Popes autho●itie in such matters though in that particuler fact for reuerence of ●heir naturall Prince and dew respect in lyke manner to the other ●hey will not medle nor yet discuss the question whether the Pope ●ad iust reason or sufficient information whervpon to proceed but with dutifull loue and honour to the one and to the other they chuse ●ather to commend the matter to almightie God which is the only ●hing that resteth for a pious and dutiful subiect to perform in such ●ases when two superiours shall disagree vntill God by his goodnes ●hall determine the controuersy and bring all to some happie end as ●e hath donn of late in France where after the foresaied excomuni●ation by the see Apostolique the same king hath receyued exceeding great fauours and benefytes from the same sea and Bishop which almightie God graunt we may once see also in our countrie to the con●entment of all parties and therby all such hastie hoate-spurres as this ●s who still would kindle more fier and bring all to desperation may ●e reiected and put to silence And with this I might end the matter of her Maiesties perils were 〈◊〉 not that this playntiffe proceedeth on with a long rehersal of other ●ostile actions committed as he sayth by English Catholiques also ●gaynst her Maiestie As the rising of the two earles in the north ●orthumberland and VVestmerland the rebellion of diuers of the ●obilitie in Irland Doctor Sanders going thither Mayster Francis ●hrogmortons practises in England M. Charles Pagets going ●orth of the land the other two earles of Arundell Northumber●ands commitment and the like All which are ouer long to examine more in particuler and all put together do weigh so litle in the matter we haue in hand as by that which followeth shal appeare None of all these actions brake out to any hostilitie sauing only ●he two earles rysing and gathering their tenantes together in the ●orth where yet there followed neither battayle nor bloodshed and ●hey were no sooner almost together nor heard of at the courte ●ut they were seuered agayn and retyred into Scotland Flanders And this is all the actual rysing that hath byn among Catholiques within
to our posteritie And albeit for the present there be warres and hostilitie between our nation and our prince and theirs and that especially in respect of religiō yet our trust is our prayers are cōtinually to our euerlasting God of peace that he will once finish well that controuersie to all our comfortes and benefites And in the mean space I do presume so much of the good natures and ciuilitie of most protestants in England that they alow not of such bitter and barbarous proceeding as Sir Francis Hastinges hath vsed to his owne discredit and dishonor of our nation in these malignant calumniations against so modest a prince In which respect also I haue bin somwhat the bolder to giue him his check with more freedom and feruor I pray God it may do him the good I wish or at least keep others from being deceiued by him THE REMISSION OF THE VVHOLE ANSVVER TO THE IVDGEMENT and arbitrement of the Lords of her Maiesties most honorable Councel vvith the ansvverers opinion and petition for the ending of these dissentions and controuersies ANd now right honorable hauing brought to an end so much as I thought expedient to be answered at this tyme to Sir Francis Hastinges iniurious libel none occurred more fit vnto me to haue the first sight and view and iudgement of the whole then your Lordshippes who though in the controuersie it self between him and his and vs and ours I cannot expect to haue you equall iudges nor indifferent arbiters you professing the religion you do yet in the manner of prosecution thereof I presume so much of the good partes that God hath indued your Lordshippes withall as I dare remit the arbitrement to your selues to whome if this rayling wachword had byn first presented before it was punished as in right it ought to haue byn you being by office the wachmē of that commonwealth and not Sir Francis who intrudeth himself I think verely that either it had byn wholy stopped and repressed or at least wise so moderated as it should not haue geuen the offence that it hath and will do for vnto graue men such troblesome sticklers as these are euer commonly and ought to be vngratefull and suspected and vnto wise Councelours and honorable persons such rayling and slanderous tongues are contemptible odious and to all good natures and ciuill conditioned men be they of what estate or profession soeuer such base detractions and contumelious fictions as heer you haue heard are insufferable and rather seuerely to be punished then any way to be permitted But yet so much the more in this case of ours where the iniurie is not offered only to your owne home-born subiects whome yet in all rightful quarrel your place requireth that you protect and defend but also to great and potent anoynted princes with whome you haue had and may haue again most honorable freindship heerafter and negotiation in important and weightie afaires whose honors you ought not to permit iniuriously to be violated by the passion and rage of any particuler man which cannot after make recompence with any humane abilitie that he hath though his life also should go therin for the hurt ensewing therof Diuers authors do note that the cheef flame of that furious hatred which grew to be implacable afterwardes betwixt Marius and Sylla Pompey and Caesar in the Roman commonwealth was inkindled first by certayne opprobrious speaches vttered by some followers of those Princes which yet the parties iniured interpreted to come from their patrons that bare them out and therof followed such warres murthers and other lamentable tragedies as all the world can wel remember And our English chronicles do also make mention that some reprochfull wordes cast out by King Harold agaynst Duke VVilliam of Normandy and his daughter whome he had promised to take to wyf stirred him cheefly to make that fatal armie by which he conquered England and brought all the English nation in to his subiection As also an other scof vttered by king Phillip of France against the same VVilliam now king touching his fat belly cost France full dear and many thowsand men their lyues of both sides so impacient are princes comonly of contumelyes and do easier remit and forget any other kinde of iniurie then reprocheful speaches VVherfore my first petition to your Lordships wisedome and moderation should be to restraine such turbulent spirits as those are which more of a mad and malitious kinde of wantonnes then of wit do loose their tongues with ouer much libertie against the honors of mightie Catholique princes abrode and thereby do put in aduenture to trooble the waters of common-wealthes more deeply then either themselues or others can easily calm again afterwards My next desire and humble supplication should be in the same matter but of far more moment that your Lordships by this occasion and by some fit concurrance of times and busines which at this present may seeme to offer themselues would voutsafe to enter more seriously into the consideration of matters depending between your Lordships and the Catholique parte of her Maiesties subiects who for many yeares haue had a hard conceyt and heauie hand born ouer them and are brought to tearmes of extreme affliction and that your Lordships as fathers of your common-wealth would resolue at length to be mediators vnto her Maiestie contemning the dangerous and seditious eggings of vnquiet spirits to further extremitie for some more gentle milde merciful course to be taken with them Vnto which resolution me thinketh that many circumstances might iustly moue your Lordships wisdomes which though by the same wisdome you wil better consider of then I yet for that it may be I desire it more then you and consequently haue more thought thereon albeit more for your good also and the publique then for any particuler interest of myn owne I shal with your good leaue represent some before you in this place And first of all the time it self doth seeme to inuite greatly to som such cogitation when great princes and monarchies round about vs that had greater differences and difficulties then these are haue not only treated but concluded also a most honorable peace and frendship and the great most Christian King of France shewing himself worthie of that name hath remedied the very roote of al calamities springing to his noble realme before by returning to the vnion of the Apostolique sea of Rome which sea as commonly it falleth out hath byn the principal meanes of this so great and general a good to all those nations that are included within that peace and league which are many and great as by the articles thereof doth appeer And no lesse curteously and honorably is her Maiestie inuited also to the same and all that desire the true good both of her person state and crowne do wish and hope that it may take effect And truly neuer could this weightie afaire be treated as it seemeth with