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A02683 The English concord in ansvver to Becane's English iarre: together with a reply to Becan's Examen of the English Concord. By Richard Harris, Dr. in Diuinitie.; Concordia Anglicana de primatu Ecclesiæ regio. English Harris, Richard, d. 1613? 1614 (1614) STC 12815; ESTC S119023 177,281 327

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excommunicate_v as_o elizabeth_n with_o you_o have_v hear_v what_o our_o canon_n think_v of_o this_o matter_n it_o be_v plain_a mulierem_fw-la 33._o q_o 5._o ca._n mulierem_fw-la that_o the_o woman_n be_v subject_a to_o the_o dominion_n of_o the_o man_n or_o her_o husband_n &_o have_v no_o authority_n for_o she_o can_v teach_v nor_o be_v a_o witness_n nor_o judge_v how_o much_o less_o may_v she_o command_v or_o reign_v monialibus_fw-la de_fw-fr sentent_fw-fr excommunicationis_fw-la cap._n de_fw-fr monialibus_fw-la and_o again_o if_o nun_n or_o moniall_n lay_v violent_a hand_n upon_o themselves_o their_o convert_v or_o clerk_n they_o ought_v to_o be_v absoln_v by_o the_o bishop_n of_o that_o diocese_n wherein_o their_o monastery_n be_v hence_o the_o canonist_n gather_v that_o abbess_n can_v absolve_v and_o therefore_o can_v excommunicate_v their_o moniall_n and_o this_o be_v observe_v in_o our_o practice_n see_v suarez_n tom._n 5._o d._n 2._o sect._n 2._o et_fw-fr 3_o dr._n harris_n reply_n the_o reverend_a bishop_n of_o ely_n assert_v the_o abbess_n with_o papist_n to_o have_v or_o dinary_a jurisdiction_n spiritual_a and_o therein_o to_o be_v equal_a with_o abbat_n and_o that_o