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A29201 A replication to the Bishop of Chalcedon his Survey of the Vindication of the Church of England from criminous schism clearing the English laws from the aspertion of cruelty : with an appendix in answer to the exceptions of S.W. / by the Right Reverend John Bramhall ... Bramhall, John, 1594-1663. 1656 (1656) Wing B4228; ESTC R8982 229,419 463

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england_n not_o material_a 2_o king_n 18.4_o sect._n 2._o conc._n turor_fw-la r●sp_n ad_fw-la art_n 3._o 48._o it_o be_v lawful_a to_o withdraw_v obedience_n from_o papal_a authority_n corrupt_v prince_n the_o last_o judge_n of_o the_o injury_n do_v to_o their_o subject_n by_o pope_n bish._n epist._n ad_fw-la reg._n jocob_n p._n 11._o rom._n 13.1_o &_o 2._o prov._n ●_o 15_o kingly_a authority_n from_o god_n not_o papal_a sect._n 3_o the_o ground_n of_o our_o separation_n an._n 30._o sect._n 4._o the_o pope_n new_a article_n of_o faith_n a_o just_a cause_n of_o separation_n the_o de●●ining_n of_o the_o cup_n in_o the_o sacrament_n a_o just_a cause_n of_o separation_n odoardus_fw-la barlosa_fw-la forma_fw-la celebrandi_fw-la etc._n etc._n papist_n right_o heir_n of_o the_o donatist_n optat._n l._n 2._o whether_o protestant_n and_o papist_n differ_v in_o essential_o psal._n 139.16_o sect._n 5._o papist_n acknowledge_v possibility_n of_o our_o salvation_n as_o much_o as_o we_o of_o they_o 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upon_o uncertain_a suspicion_n no._n in_o doubtful_a case_n it_o be_v always_o presume_v pro_fw-la rege_fw-la &_o lege_fw-la for_o the_o king_n and_o for_o the_o law_n neither_o be_v it_o lawful_a as_o a_o father_n say_v some_o virgin_n who_o cast_v themselves_o desperate_o into_o a_o river_n for_o fear_v of_o be_v deflower_v to_o commit_v a_o certain_a crime_n for_o fear_n of_o a_o uncertain_a yea_o to_o rise_v yet_o one_o step_n high_o though_o it_o be_v lawful_a yet_o it_o be_v not_o prudence_n but_o folly_n for_o a_o man_n to_o thrust_v himself_o into_o more_o more_o apparent_a more_o real_a danger_n for_o fear_v of_o one_o lesser_a less_o apparent_a and_o remote_a danger_n or_o for_o fear_n of_o charybdis_n to_o run_v headlong_o into_o scylla_n he_o who_o forsake_v the_o english_a church_n for_o fear_n of_o schism_n to_o join_v in_o a_o strict_a communion_n with_o rome_n plunge_v himself_o in_o great_a and_o more_o real_a danger_n both_o of_o schism_n and_o idolatry_n and_o 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