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A02683 The English concord in ansvver to Becane's English iarre: together with a reply to Becan's Examen of the English Concord. By Richard Harris, Dr. in Diuinitie.; Concordia Anglicana de primatu Ecclesiæ regio. English Harris, Richard, d. 1613? 1614 (1614) STC 12815; ESTC S119023 177,281 327

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qui_fw-la ecclesiastican_n &_o temporalem_fw-la iurisdictionem_fw-la habet_fw-la &_o quidem_fw-la supremá_fw-la the_o king_n be_v a_o person_n mix_v to_o wit_n that_o have_v both_o jurisdiction_n ecclesiastical_a and_o temporal_a &_o that_o in_o the_o high_a degree_n etc._n etc._n and_o yet_o more_o p._n 144._o perleges_fw-la ecclesiasticas_fw-la in_o hoc_fw-la regno_fw-la approbatas_fw-la unus_fw-la sacerdos_n duo_fw-la beneficia_fw-la habere_fw-la non_fw-la potest_fw-la nec_fw-la bastardus_n sactis_fw-la initiari_fw-la verùm_fw-la rex_fw-la ecclesiastica_fw-la potestate_fw-la &_o iurisdictione_n quam_fw-la habet_fw-la in_fw-la utroque_fw-la dispensate_a potest_fw-la by_o the_o ecclesiastical_a law_n appron_v in_o this_o kingdom_n of_o england_n one_o priest_n may_v not_o have_v two_o benefice_n nor_o a_o bastard_n be_v make_v a_o priest_n but_o the_o king_n by_o the_o jurisdiction_n and_o power_n ecclesiastical_a which_o he_o have_v can_v dispense_v in_o both_o etc._n etc._n 3._o m._n tompson_n and_o m._n burhill_n do_v absolute_o deny_v it_o m._n thomson_n pag._n 80._o of_o his_o book_n write_v thus_o primatus_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la definiendus_fw-la per_fw-la iurisdictionem_fw-la ecclesiasticam_fw-la sed_fw-la per_fw-la gubernationem_fw-la supremam_fw-la the_o primacy_n of_o the_o church_n be_v not_o to_o be_v define_v by_o jurisdiction_n ecclesisstical_a but_o by_o supreme_a government_n etc._n etc._n and_o again_o pag_n 95._o diximus_fw-la regem_fw-la gubernare_fw-la quidem_fw-la ecclesiastica_fw-la sed_fw-la non_fw-la ecclesiasticè_fw-la we_o have_v say_v before_o that_o the_o king_n indeed_o do_v govern_v ecclesiastical_a thing_n but_o not_o ecclesiastical_o and_o why_o i_o pray_v you_o because_o for_o sooth_n be_v have_v not_o jurisdiction_n ecclesiatical_o but_o onoly_a temporal_a and_o heerounto_o agreath_n must_v buchill_n pag._n 234._o grant_v this_o negatine_n proposition_n rex_fw-la say_v he_o nullam_fw-la habet_fw-la 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their_o desert_n he_o may_v depose_v as_o solomon_n do_v abiathar_n in_o the_o mean_a time_n 27._o 1._o reg._n 2._o ver_fw-la 27._o the_o king_n allow_v not_o that_o any_o bishop_n especial_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n shall_v rule_v over_o all_o the_o christian_a world_n this_o jesuit_n bring_v in_o our_o king_n here_o deny_v that_o he_o will_v meddle_v with_o the_o matter_n of_o other_o man_n not_o his_o subject_n as_o on_o the_o one_o side_n he_o deserve_o commend_v our_o gracious_a king_n therein_o so_o on_o the_o other_o side_n he_o just_o condemn_v that_o busybody_n the_o pope_n intermeddle_v in_o matter_n of_o the_o king_n &_o his_o subject_n endeuc●ring_v impious_o and_o impudent_o to_o avert_v his_o subject_n from_o swear_v allegiance_n unto_o their_o sovereign_n against_o the_o law_n of_o nature_n &_o nation_n against_o the_o law_n of_o god_n and_o man_n therein_o show_v himself_o indeed_o to_o be_v that_o wicked_a man_n that_o son_n of_o perdition_n that_o very_a 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320._o whereas_o he_o know_v he_o shall_v be_v condemn_v and_o if_o he_o be_v to_o be_v send_v for_o they_o may_v better_o do_v it_o that_o be_v near_o to_o he_o and_o not_o so_o far_o distant_a as_o i_o be_o becan_n exam._n 115_o pag._n 115_o if_o these_o proposition_n be_v equivalent_a viz._n the_o king_n have_v not_o primacy_n ecclesiastical_a the_o king_n can_v execure_v office_n sacerdotal_a or_o episcopal_a than_o it_o follow_v that_o they_o who_o deny_v the_o king_n canexeci●te_fw-fr officas_fw-la sacerdot_n all_o deny_v the_o king_n to_o have_v primacy_n ecclesiastical_a or_o spiritual_a and_o they_o who_o hold_v that_o the_o king_n have_v primacy_n spiritual_a affirm_v that_o he_o may_v execute_v office_n episcopal_a this_o be_v rather_o to_o increase_v then_o to_o take_v away_o the_o jar_n dr._n harris_n reply_n here_o the_o jesuit_n play_v the_o wrangle_a sophifter_n &_o he_o elench_v be_v as_o the_o school_n term_v it_o a_fw-la dictosecundum_fw-la quid_fw-la addictum_fw-la 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to_o be_v no_o head_n nor_o to_o call_v counsel_n etc._n etc._n shall_v hereafter_o in_o their_o due_a place_n receive_v also_o their_o full_a answer_n ❧_o becans_n jar_n iii_o question_n whether_o the_o king_n by_o virtue_n of_o this_o primacy_n may_v be_v call_v primate_n of_o the_o church_n master_n henry_n salclebridge_n do_v absolute_o affirm_v it_o for_o thus_o be_v write_v pag._n 140._o dico_fw-la regem_fw-la angliae_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la anglicanae_n primatem_fw-la esse_fw-la i_o say_v that_o the_o king_n of_o england_n be_v primate_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n nay_o he_o will_v have_v this_o point_n to_o be_v so_o certain_a and_o out_o of_o all_o doubt_n that_o he_o think_v whosoeur_fw-fr shall_v deny_v it_o to_o offend_v against_o the_o public_a profession_n of_o england_n for_o so_o he_o say_v pag._n 177._o angliae_fw-la regen_n anglicanae_n ecclesiae_fw-la primaten_fw-mi esse_fw-la in_o professione_n publica_fw-la anglicana_n veritasis_fw-la sacris_fw-la litter_n be_v nixae_fw-la ponitur_fw-la that_o the_o king_n of_o england_n be_v primate_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n be_v found_v in_o the_o public_a english_a profession_n of_o truth_n ground_v upon_o the_o sacred_a letter_n 2._o m._n tooker_n and_o m._n burhill_n do_v absolute_o deny_v it_o for_o thus_o write_v m._n tooker_n pag._n 3._o olere_fw-la autem_fw-la malitiam_fw-la ac_fw-la clamitare_fw-la audaciam_fw-la tuam_fw-la illud_fw-la videtur_fw-la cùm_fw-la regen_n caput_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la primatemque_fw-la consingas_fw-la it_o may_v seem_v to_o savour_n of_o malice_n and_o cry_v out_o upon_o your_o sauciness_n when_o as_o you_o feign_v the_o king_n head_n and_o primate_n of_o the_o church_n etc._n etc._n and_o ma._n burhill_n pag._n 133_o nec_fw-la primatem_fw-la quidem_fw-la omnino_fw-la regem_fw-la nostrum_fw-la dicimus_fw-la multò_fw-la vetò_fw-la minus_fw-la primatem_fw-la ecclesiasticism_n neither_o do_v we_o at_o all_o call_v our_o king_n primate_n and_o much_o less_o 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