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this_o treatise_n for_o whereas_o he_o will_v make_v our_o cross_n in_o baptism_n the_o same_o that_o it_o be_v in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n both_o in_o name_n and_o in_o form_n and_o in_o religious_a 14._o pag._n 14._o though_o not_o idolatrous_a use_n as_o he_o speak_v it_o will_v appear_v upon_o due_a examination_n to_o be_v utter_o untrue_a for_o to_o grant_v that_o they_o be_v the_o same_o in_o name_n for_o they_o be_v both_o call_v cross_n &_o in_o form_n for_o they_o be_v both_o cross_a line_n draw_v in_o the_o air_n and_o yet_o i_o must_v tell_v the_o treatiser_n that_o their_o use_v many_o cross_n in_o the_o same_o thing_n do_v diversificare_fw-la formam_fw-la make_v the_o form_n diverse_a from_o we_o that_o use_v but_o one_o yet_o the_o religious_a use_n of_o they_o be_v notorious_o different_a for_o first_o they_o give_v unto_o their_o cross_n divine_a power_n and_o virtue_n as_o if_o it_o can_v sanctify_v thing_n cross_v therewith_o drive_v away_o devil_n heal_v 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