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A91468 Goliahs head cut off with his own sword; in a combat betwixt little David, the young stripling, who stands in the power and strength of his God, and great Goliah the proud boaster, who stands in his own strength, glorifying in the arm of flesh, and contemning and despising little David, because of his youth. In a reply to a book, set forth by an un-named author, under pretence of an answer to thirty six queries, propounded by James Parnell, whom he in scorn calls, the young Quaker. And also an answer to severall counter-queries, propounded by the same unnamed authour, whom I understand to be one Thomas Draton, a teacher of the world, at Abbey Rippon, in Huntingtonshire, ... and also he that takes his part, who writes himself W.P. who knowes not the power of God, and therefore glories in the length of time, and the multitude of years. ... / Given forth from the spirit of the Lord in the behalf of Israel against the armies of the aliens, who muster up themselves against the Lord, and his authority: by a friend to the common-wealth of Israel, who is known to the world, by the name James Parnel. Who is a sufferer in outward bonds, for the testimony of the everlasting truth, in Colchester Castle. 1655. Parnell, James, 1637?-1656. 1655 (1655) Wing P531; Thomason E861_1; ESTC R203310 65,568 94

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abroad to preach the Gospel 0 neither allowed them 100 or 200 pounds by the yeare as thou hast but they chose out those that were strong in the faith and set them to watch over the weake but those Churches was gathered by the power and Spirit of God and was turned from darknesse to light and was washed clensed and sanctified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God but out of your Church cast Drunkerds and Swearers and Liers and Proud and Covetous ones and adulterous and Idolaters and Quarrellers and Fighters and Scoffers 1 Cor. 6.11 and Scorners and Backbiters and Envious ones and Prophane and wanton ones and the like who are neither washed nor sanctified and then see where will be the Church of England and the Pastors Teachers and Elders Rv. 3. and all then you that profess your selves to be the Church of Christ will be found the synagogue of Satan whose Minister thou art and also Paul and Barnabas who ordained them Elders was men indued with the holy Spirit of the Lord and was immediately called and chosen to the Ministry and had a Spirit of discerning to know who was fitted for the Elder-ship and all this was done without an University or serving seven yeares to learne Arts and Sciences or taking Degrees without which you can do nothing and also those Superiors and Governours that ordaine you teachers and governours have nothing but what they have gotten by art and study and reading of others experiences but are ignorant of the power of God neither knowes whether there be any Holy-Ghost yea or nay but by the hearing of the eare but scofs and scornes and and persecutes those that now do witnesse these things and they themselves was also first ordained by the will of man and thus thou hast but so much the more manifested thy selfe to the world in going about to prove thy selfe a called Minister by the Scripture which doth altogether witnesse against thee And whereas thou would'st have me to prove my Call by an infallible Testimony I tell thee without an infallible Testimony I do not goe neither without an infallible Testamony doe I desire to be received or owned and to this the infallible Spirit of truth beares Testimony in all the Children of truth and thou that hast not an infallible Testimony either with me or against mee art still in darknesse and knowes not the truth then farre unfit to be a teacher to others Whether thou art guided by the same infallible Spirit that gave forth the Scripture 3 Query And in thy answer thou saist P. Ans that we our selves teach that all men are taught and guided by that Spirit at times and secondly thou saist thou praises God for it thou art guided and assisted by that Spirit which is alwaies infallible and thirdly thou saist thou doubt whether any of those that are called Quakers are alwaies guided by that Spirit Here all that are guided by any measure of that Spirit may easily see thy lies and confusion for thy first is a lie Rep. that any of us doe teach that all men are taught and guided by that Spirit at times for I deny that thou art who art now taken with a lie in thy mouth which all that understands our doctrine will witnesse against and secondly that thou art guided by an infallible Spirit is a lie against the Holy-Ghost for no lie comes from that Spirit And againe thou belies the Spirit of truth to say thou art guided by it and yet cannot give an infallible Testimony whether those thou calls Quakers are guided by an infallible Spirit yea or nay but art in thy doubts Joh. 8.44 but that Spirit is without doubts which now judgeth thee to be a lier and thy God thou praises to be the Devill the Father of lies who must both be tormented together Whether they that are guided by that Spirit need study how or what to say 4 Qu. And in thy answer thou saist P. An Timothy had that Spirit in a greater measure then James Parnell yet Paul saith thus unto him as in 1 Tim. 4.13 14 15 16. And thou saist if the Apostles had beene put to it to preach upon a short Text or Theme Methodically as by long practice in the Church is expected from you they must oft times have studied for it as thou conceivest though if you were left at large to speake as the Spirit of God mo es you and giveth matter in thou hopes some of you by Gods assistance should speake as togood or better purpose then any whonow pretend to the spiritsactings Here thou hast sufficiently manifested thy spirit Rep and thy ignorance of the spirit of God to any who understands the things of the spirit of God and all these Scriptures which thou hast brought concerning Timothy doth not at all prove that he that is guided by the spirit of God need study how or what to preach But Paul exhorted Timothy to the gift that was in him which was given him by or for prophesie for in so doing he should save himself and those that heard him which you never do by the fruit of your study but rather destroyes them witness the fruits of your Ministry this many years in this Nation who have wrought no better Reformation amongst your hearers and also this Scripture doth not at all prove that Paul bid Timothy study old Authours and heathenish Commentators as you do neither to study Arts and Sciences as you do who with your Philosophy Col. 2.8 and vain deceipt do spoile the people for thou hast manifested thy selfe to be altogether ignorant of the spirit of God who by thy own conceivings judgest the spirit of God to be unsufficient to instruct and teach the Apostles what to speak at all times without study when as Christ himselfe exhorteth them to take no thought what to speak for it should be given them in the very same houre Mat. 10.19 20. for saith he It is not you that speaks but the spirit of your Father that speaketh in you which spirit speaketh not without method which spirit you Teachers of the Church of England are great strangers to who think that the spirit of God can be limited to a Text or a Theme as thou confessest you are but thou lier where is now thy infallible spirit who thus speakest thy own conceivings and therefore be ashamed hence forward to pretend to an infa lible spirit who hast here so openly manifesied thy ignorance of it and its movings so that if thou wast left at large to speak from that spirit in thee was shut out of thy Liberary from any Text or Writing Isay 56.10 thou wouldst plainly manifest thy self to be one of the dumb Dogs that could not bark which I saiah from the spirit of the Lord declared against without study for I do believe that if thou and the rest of the nationall
will deny the profitableness of your teaching for like people like Priest Hos 4.9 2 Tim. 4.3 as the Prophet said and you are the heaps of teachers that deceive the world and draw itching eares after you who cannot endure sound Doctrine with your fained entising words of mens wisdom but the Teacher of the true Church is but one which is its head even Christ who speaks with Power and Authority and not as you Scribes whose teaching is a profitable teaching as is much witnessed in these latter dayes Mat. 7.29 to your great shame and grief who have been the professed Teachers of the Church of England this many years neither doth any of these Scritpures prove that ever Christ or his Apostles took a Text of Scripture and by humane art and study did raise Uses Points Trialls and Motives as you do which is a commendable teaching 1 Cor. 1.18 1 Cor. 2.4 by the wise ones of the world who know not the wisdom of God but to them the preaching of the Crosse is foolishness as was accounted amongst the Greeks because the Apostle came not with entising words of mens wisdom as you do to please men but in plainness of speech spoke the word of the Lord faithfully and also said If he yet sought to please men he should not be the Servant of Christ Gal. 1.10 but this is all your care whose trust is in man and not in Christ and in all those Scriptures when Christ or his Apostles spoke of a Text of Scripture out of the old Testament it was to shew the fulfilling thereof or to witness to what they had said but you will take these Scriptures for to give your carnall meanings and interpretations of them and so from them speak a divination of your own brain for gain and lucre and this is the use you make of these points as thou calles them which the Scriptures before mentioned will not at all maintain and yet thou canst impudently quote this Scripture in Mat. 6.25.34 which forbids taking thought what to eat what to drink and wherewithall to be cloathed when it is so publickly known that it is your greatest care and that which thou hast been here much labouring to maintain all along to prove it lawful for thee to take nigh 200. or 300. pounds by the year of the world yea and for a Law to compell them if they refuse to give it and yet thou art not ashamed to say that thou dost not go in the way of Balaam for gifts and rewards and the chiefest Scripture which thou hast here quoted will witness against thee as 2 Tim. 3.16 17. which saith the Scripture was given by inspiration of God and is profitable for Doctrine for reproof for correction and instruction in righteousness that the man of God may be perfected throughly furnished unto every good work but thou hates to be reproved and calles them foul-mouthed currs and the like that do reprove thee and thou teachest for Doctrine the traditions of men as to call a house of Lime and Stone a Church and the like as is before proved And how have you by all your Doctrines reproof correction and instruction this many years perfected any when as the professors therein are earthly minded as thou sayst P. Ans and you that are therefore Teachers the most of all and most of you denies perfection in this life and though thou with thy tongue profess it yet in life denies it which is worst of all and so I take thee and though thou hast been so pleading for thy way yet thou sayst you would change it for a better if any can shew it you and make your hearers beleive that it would be more advantages for them but thou saist this trade of interpreting the Scripture is an old and a good trade which to prove thou quotes Iob. 33.23 Psal 10.2 3. Pro. 1.6 Act. 8.3 Here thou blind guide Reply thy nakednesse is open to the world and thy hearers may consider it who have looked upon thee as their Teacher this many yeares and yet thou thy selfe still to learne which is the best way when as there is but one true way then thou who art ignorant of this true way must needs be in a false way then how hast thou deluded thy hearets this many yeares Jer. 32.39 and also belyed thy selfe in thy Booke And if the Teacher be ever learning then what must the herers of such a one be let the wise-hearted judge and I beleive and know that your hearers would soone beleive the same if the Preachers of truth might have liberty to speake when they come amongst you but if any come in that intent you are ready to set your people upon them to hale them out with force and also you have a law to cast them into Prison as many of us do witnesse at this day and therefore thou liar the convincing of your hearers of a better way is not your greatest care but rather your greatest feare least any should be drawne from you and so your trade come to faile as thou callest it but this I know is your greatest care that any body would shew you a better way to get mony by and also perswade your hearers into it or else thou thinks you are never the better and then you would leave interpreting the Scripture which now thou calles a good trade but thou Marchant of Babylon where doth any of these Scriptures which thou hast quoted prove or terme interpreting the Scripture a trade though you Marchants of Babylon make a trade of it to get lucre by and so call it a trade who think gaine is godliness but well may others accuse you for making a trade and a gaine of the Scriptures while you your selves confesse it and thus thou wrests the Scripture for thine own ends and paints thy work with Scripture for to make the ignorant believe it is grounded upon Scripture oh be ashamed to take it into thy mouth to make a trade of it which was freely spoken forth by the holy men of God as they was moved by the Holy-Ghost and thou makes the people believe it is of some private interpretation and so thou makes Marchandize of the people and so out of thy own mouth art judged to be a lier who before denied it Whether thou dost speake as thou art moved by the Holy-Ghost Que. 20 as they did who spoke forth the Scripture And in thy Answer thou sai'st that thou hast answered to this allready P. Ans that thou usually dost speake at the motion or assistance of the Holy-Ghost thou praises God for it But thou hypocrite I have also in this already proved thee a lier Reply 2 Cor. 4.4 and thy God to be the Father of lies who is the God of the blind world in which thou art a blind guide and an enemy to the Holy-Ghost where he is witnessed to rule and this James Parnel and those thou