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A44522 Four tracts by A. Horneck ...; with a preface by Mr. Edwards.; Selections. 1697 Horneck, Anthony, 1641-1697. 1697 (1697) Wing H2831; ESTC R4616 55,346 154

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this_o number_n a_o article_n of_o faith_n quest_n 7._o why_o do_v not_o you_o allow_v of_o public_a service_n in_o latin_a or_o in_o a_o tongue_n not_o understand_v by_o the_o people_n answ._n 1._o because_o st._n paul_n write_v a_o whole_a chapter_n against_o it_o 1_o cor._n 14._o 2._o because_o the_o public_a service_n ought_v to_o be_v for_o the_o edification_n of_o the_o people_n and_o service_n in_o a_o unknown_a tongue_n can_v edify_v 3._o the_o practice_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n be_v against_o it_o 4._o some_o of_o the_o wise_a man_n in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n themselves_o find_v fault_n with_o this_o public_a service_n in_o a_o unknown_a tongue_n 5._o this_o practice_n in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v only_o to_o serve_v some_o worldly_a ends._n quest._n 8._o why_o do_v not_o you_o admit_v of_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o mass_n answ._n 1._o because_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n tell_v we_o that_o they_o do_v sacrifice_n christ_n every_o day_n in_o the_o mass_n which_o be_v direct_o contrary_a to_o the_o 9th_o chapter_n of_o the_o epistle_n to_o the_o hebrew_n heb._n 9_o 25_o 26_o 27_o 28._o 2._o because_o there_o can_v be_v no_o true_a and_o proper_a sacrifice_n without_o death_n and_o it_o find_v dreadful_a to_o a_o christian_a ear_n that_o the_o priest_n kill_v christ_n every_o day_n or_o which_o be_v all_o one_o put_v his_o god_n to_o death_n 3._o it_o destroy_v the_o end_n of_o a_o sacrifice_n which_o be_v to_o testify_v our_o subjection_n to_o god_n but_o in_o this_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o mass_n the_o offerer_n who_o be_v the_o priest_n must_v be_v great_a than_o the_o offer_n 4._o the_o lord_n supper_n be_v only_o a_o commemoration_n or_o representation_n of_o christ_n sacrifice_n and_o a_o sacrifice_n of_o thanksgiving_n but_o no_o proper_a or_o true_a propitiatory_a sacrifice_n quest._n 9_o why_o do_v not_o you_o believe_v a_o transubstantiation_n in_o the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n answ._n 1._o it_o be_v against_o all_o sense_n for_o we_o may_v see_v and_o feel_v and_o hear_v and_o taste_v and_o smell_v that_o the_o bread_n and_o wine_n after_o consecration_n be_v bread_n and_o wine_n still_o 2._o it_o be_v against_o reason_n that_o christ_n body_n and_o blood_n shall_v be_v in_o a_o thousand_o place_n at_o once_o 3._o it_o be_v against_o scripture_n for_o christ_n protest_v that_o his_o flesh_n profit_v nothing_o joh._n 6._o 63._o 4._o it_o be_v against_o the_o nature_n of_o a_o sacrament_n which_o be_v a_o outward_a visible_a sign_n of_o something_o spiritual_a and_o transubstantiation_n destroy_v the_o sign_n 5._o christ_n himself_o explain_v what_o he_o mean_v by_o say_v this_o be_v my_o body_n when_o he_o add_v do_v this_o in_o remembrance_n of_o i_o which_o remembrance_n suppose_v the_o absence_n of_o his_o natural_a body_n 6._o it_o be_v against_o that_o article_n of_o our_o faith_n which_o say_v that_o christ_n be_v to_o continue_v in_o heaven_n till_o the_o restitution_n of_o all_o thing_n and_o there_o be_v no_o necessity_n we_o shall_v take_v the_o word_n literal_o any_o more_o than_o the_o word_n in_o jo._n 10._o 7._o i_o be_o the_o door_n etc._n etc._n 7._o this_o be_v my_o body_n be_v a_o phrase_n or_o form_n of_o speech_n exact_o like_o that_o of_o the_o lamb_n in_o the_o passover_n this_o lamb_n be_v the_o passeover_n i._n e._n the_o memorial_n of_o it_o 8._o these_o word_n this_o be_v my_o body_n do_v not_o natural_o infer_v a_o substantial_a change_n by_o the_o confession_n of_o some_o papist_n themselves_o 9_o they_o themselves_o can_v be_v sure_a of_o this_o change_n because_o they_o say_v it_o depend_v upon_o the_o intention_n of_o the_o priest_n 10._o the_o absurdity_n that_o flow_v from_o the_o doctrine_n of_o transubstantiation_n be_v innumerable_a for_o then_o christ_n must_v have_v eat_v himself_o the_o disciple_n must_v have_v eat_v up_o their_o master_n christ_n body_n may_v be_v lock_v up_o in_o a_o box_n for_o half_a a_o year_n together_o and_o long_o etc._n etc._n whereas_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n that_o the_o bread_n represent_v christ_n body_n and_o upon_o that_o account_n be_v his_o body_n have_v no_o inconveniency_n in_o it_o 11._o transubstantiation_n be_v against_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n which_o call_v the_o bread_n the_o figure_n of_o christ_n body_n quest._n 10._o why_o do_v not_o you_o think_v it_o lawful_a for_o layman_n to_o receive_v the_o communion_n in_o one_o kind_n only_o answ._n 1._o because_o christ_n say_v express_o to_o the_o disciple_n drink_v you_o all_o of_o this_o 2._o the_o practice_n of_o the_o universal_a church_n of_o christ_n for_o a_o thousand_o year_n together_o be_v against_o it_o 3._o the_o council_n of_o constance_n in_o the_o year_n 1416._o be_v the_o first_o that_o dare_v venture_v
use_v as_o a_o mean_n to_o get_v money_n 5._o by_o these_o indulgence_n man_n be_v hinder_v from_o a_o true_a repentance_n for_o they_o pretend_v to_o release_v man_n by_o they_o both_o from_o sin_n and_o punishment_n at_o least_o the_o people_n be_v suffer_v to_o think_v so_o if_o they_o do_v but_o say_v so_o many_o prayer_n or_o go_v in_o pilgrimage_n to_o such_o a_o place_n or_o fast_o so_o many_o day_n from_o some_o kind_n of_o meat_n or_o give_v a_o large_a sum_n of_o money_n for_o the_o build_n of_o a_o church_n or_o go_v to_o war_n against_o infidel_n etc._n etc._n quest._n 15._o why_o do_v not_o you_o think_v auricular_a confession_n to_o a_o priest_n necessary_a to_o salvation_n here_o you_o must_v note_n that_o we_o be_v not_o against_o confession_n in_o the_o church_n of_o england_n nay_o our_o church_n press_v it_o both_o public_a and_o private_a to_o god_n and_o confession_n to_o a_o pious_a and_o able_a minister_n if_o the_o conscience_n be_v burden_v and_o upon_o a_o deathbed_n but_o we_o dare_v not_o say_v as_o they_o do_v in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n that_o a_o man_n can_v be_v pardon_v or_o save_v except_o he_o confess_v to_o a_o priest_n 1._o we_o allow_v not_o of_o it_o in_o the_o sense_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n because_o there_o be_v nothing_o in_o the_o word_n of_o god_n that_o make_v the_o neglect_n of_o it_o damnable_a 2._o the_o confession_n use_v in_o the_o primitive_a church_n be_v make_v by_o scandalous_a sinner_n public_o in_o the_o congregation_n and_o therefore_o be_v not_o the_o same_o with_o that_o practise_v in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n which_o command_v the_o confess_v all_o mortal_a sin_n with_o their_o circumstance_n into_o the_o ear_n of_o a_o priest_n at_o set_a time_n and_o before_o the_o receive_n of_o the_o sacrament_n 3._o since_o it_o be_v not_o of_o divine_a but_o ecclesiastical_a institution_n it_o can_v be_v absolute_o necessary_a to_o salvation_n 4._o it_o can_v be_v a_o sacrament_n as_o they_o make_v it_o in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n because_o it_o want_v christ_n institution_n 5._o this_o confession_n to_o a_o priest_n as_o it_o be_v manage_v in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v no_o check_n but_o rather_o a_o encouragement_n to_o sin_n quest._n 16._o why_o do_v not_o you_o believe_v that_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v the_o only_a catholic_n church_n and_o the_o mistress_n of_o all_o other_o church_n answ._n i_o can_v never_o believe_v that_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v the_o only_a catholic_n church_n 1._o because_o there_o be_v vast_a multitude_n of_o christian_n in_o the_o world_n which_o be_v not_o in_o actual_a communion_n with_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n and_o yet_o be_v member_n of_o the_o catholic_n or_o which_o be_v the_o same_o of_o christ_n universal_a church_n disperse_v all_o the_o world_n over_o 2._o to_o say_v that_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v the_o catholic_n church_n be_v to_o say_v that_o a_o part_n be_v the_o whole_a or_o that_o a_o house_n be_v a_o whole_a city_n or_o that_o one_o member_n be_v the_o whole_a body_n 3._o the_o primitive_a christian_n do_v not_o take_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n for_o the_o only_a catholic_n church_n 4._o god_n have_v no_o where_o in_o scripture_n declare_v so_o much_o 5._o to_o say_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v the_o only_a catholic_n church_n be_v a_o most_o uncharitable_a doctrine_n and_o to_o damn_v the_o great_a part_n of_o the_o christian_a world_n 6._o all_o church_n that_o do_v hold_v the_o ancient_a faith_n contain_v in_o the_o three_o creed_n be_v member_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n 7._o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v so_o far_o from_o be_v the_o only_a catholic_n church_n that_o her_o strange_a doctrine_n make_v she_o at_o the_o best_a but_o a_o very_a unsound_a member_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n i_o do_v not_o believe_v that_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v the_o mistress_n of_o all_o other_o church_n in_o the_o world_n 1._o because_o there_o be_v no_o such_o authority_n give_v she_o in_o the_o word_n of_o god_n 2._o the_o superiority_n she_o claim_v be_v nothing_o but_o usurpation_n 3._o the_o asian_a and_o african_a church_n heretofore_o reject_v her_o authority_n 4._o the_o eastern_a church_n at_o this_o day_n despise_v her_o pride_n and_o pretend_a authority_n 5._o the_o church_n of_o england_n be_v a_o free_a church_n from_o the_o beginning_n and_o therefore_o just_o maintain_v her_o freedom_n and_o how_o shall_v that_o church_n be_v mistress_n of_o all_o other_o church_n that_o take_v liberty_n to_o change_v christ_n institution_n and_o command_n and_o contradict_v the_o word_n of_o god_n quest._n 17._o do_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n differ_v from_o the_o church_n of_o england_n in_o any_o other_o point_n answ._n yes_o for_o she_o hold_v 1._o that_o extreme_a unction_n be_v a_o sacrament_n necessary_a to_o salvation_n 2._o that_o it_o be_v unlawful_a for_o priest_n to_o marry_o 3._o that_o she_o be_v infallible_a 4._o that_o the_o 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