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A19178 A reply to Dr. Mortons generall Defence of three nocent [sic] ceremonies viz. the surplice, crosse in baptisme, and kneeling at the receiving of the sacramentall elements of bread and wine. Ames, William, 1576-1633.; Calderwood, David, 1575-1650, attributed name. 1622 (1622) STC 559; ESTC S100126 108,813 126

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council_n of_o bracar_n forbid_v abstinence_n from_o flesh_n that_o christian_n may_v show_v themselves_o to_o differ_v from_o priscillianist_n the_o def._n answer_n be_v that_o the_o papist_n do_v not_o consort_v with_o we_o in_o the_o same_o ceremonial_a act_n as_o the_o priscillianist_n do_v with_o the_o catholic_n at_o the_o same_o ordinary_n &_o banquet_n but_o there_o be_v no_o such_o reason_n render_v or_o limitation_n set_v in_o the_o council_n of_o the_o same_o ordinary_n and_o banquet_n the_o same_o ceremony_n only_o be_v condemn_v 19_o thrice-dipping_a in_o baptism_n be_v condemn_v by_o a_o council_n of_o toledo_n approve_v by_o leo_n because_o it_o be_v the_o custom_n of_o heretic_n this_o be_v say_v the_o def._n because_o a_o heretical_a construction_n be_v make_v of_o it_o even_o so_o say_v we_o a_o superstitious_a construction_n be_v make_v of_o our_o cross_n not_o only_o by_o
the_o papist_n but_o by_o our_o own_o canon_n and_o canonical_a imposer_n of_o it_o 20_o leo_n forbid_v man_n to_o have_v any_o thing_n to_o do_v with_o heretic_n mean_v it_o only_o of_o doctrinal_a conference_n say_v the_o def._n but_o conformity_n with_o they_o in_o their_o ceremony_n be_v a_o great_a fault_n for_o the_o nature_n of_o it_o then_o doctrinal_a dispute_v with_o they_o therefore_o the_o testimony_n hold_v from_o the_o less_o to_o the_o great_a thus_o in_o brief_a i_o have_v examine_v his_o particular_a answer_n unto_o our_o testimony_n out_o of_o counsel_n and_o father_n b●t_fw-la one_o answer_n may_v have_v serve_v for_o all_o viz._n that_o they_o be_v not_o bring_v in_o by_o the_o author_n of_o the_o abridgement_n for_o to_o make_v a_o immediate_a conclusion_n by_o against_o our_o ceremony_n as_o the_o def._n in_o his_o answer_n evermore_o take_v they_o but_o to_o illustrate_v the_o proposition_n which_o condemn_v conformity_n with_o idolater_n in_o their_o ceremony_n and_o herein_o we_o have_v not_o only_o the_o father_n but_o even_o the_o papist_n themselves_o in_o word_n many_o time_n consent_v with_o we_o suarez_n in_o thom._n p._n 3._o q._n 65._o make_v it_o one_o rule_v which_o the_o church_n be_v to_o follow_v in_o appoint_v of_o ceremony_n now_o the_o def._n pass_v from_o the_o proposition_n of_o this_o argument_n unto_o the_o assumption_n but_o he_o shall_v have_v do_v well_o to_o have_v make_v a_o little_a stand_n at_o the_o army_n of_o protestant_n which_o be_v bring_v in_o as_o give_v witness_n to_o this_o truth_n abridg._n p._n 20._o 21._o 22._o 23._o 24._o &_o 25._o why_o have_v we_o not_o hear_v one_o head_n of_o protestant_a divine_n as_o well_o as_o in_o the_o former_a argument_n see_v more_o be_v cite_v here_o then_o in_o they_o sure_o the_o def._n can_v not_o tell_v how_o to_o give_v a_o colourable_a answer_n to_o so_o many_o pregnant_a testimony_n and_o therefore_o think_v good_a to_o pass_v they_o over_o in_o silence_n and_o make_v his_o reader_n believe_v that_o none_o be_v object_v because_o none_o be_v answer_v sect_n xxi_o the_o def._n here_o meaning_n to_o say_v something_o against_o the_o assumption_n set_v it_o down_o by_o half_n or_o rather_o by_o quarter_n for_o the_o assumption_n be_v abridg._n 26._o 27._o our_o ceremony_n in_o question_n be_v humane_a invention_n of_o no_o necessary_a use_n and_o abuse_v to_o idolatry_n he_o set_v it_o thus_o down_o our_o ceremony_n have_v be_v idolatrous_o abuse_v by_o papist_n there_o be_v great_a difference_n as_o by_o and_o by_o we_o shall_v see_v his_o answer_n be_v by_o a_o distinction_n these_o ceremony_n be_v either_o general_o or_o individual_o and_o numeral_o the_o same_o that_o have_v be_v abuse_v to_o idolatry_n if_o general_o than_o it_o hinder_v not_o but_o they_o may_v still_o lawful_o be_v use_v though_o they_o have_v be_v so_o abuse_v if_o individual_o than_o it_o be_v not_o true_a which_o be_v affirm_v neither_o do_v it_o follow_v from_o thence_o that_o they_o must_v be_v abolish_v because_o they_o have_v be_v so_o abuse_v except_o they_o be_v the_o same_o formal_o i._n in_o intention_n and_o opinion_n of_o those_o that_o impose_v and_o practice_v they_o what_o miserable_a shift_n be_v the_o def._n put_v to_o he_o tell_v we_o before_o his_o distinction_n be_v wedge_n but_o this_o be_v a_o very_a picklock_n make_v for_o to_o open_v the_o door_n of_o gods●_n church_n into_o those_o ceremony_n against_o which_o by_o the_o key_n of_o god_n kingdom_n they_o be_v straight_o shut_v up_o for_o by_o this_o mean_v any_o kind_n of_o popish_a jewish_a heathenish_a ceremony_n may_v come_v in_o so_o there_o be_v new_a particular_n of_o the_o same_o kind_n and_o a_o new_a intention_n use_v the_o first_o assertion_n be_v most_o gross_a viz._n that_o in_o ceremony_n abuse_v to_o idolatry_n those_o be_v not_o forbid_v which_o be_v general_o the_o same_o but_o only_o the_o same_o individuall_n for_o by_o the_o like_a reason_n of_o ceremony_n institute_v by_o christ_n those_o only_o be_v command_v which_o christ_n individual_o and_o numeral_o do_v sanctify_v not_o all_o of_o the_o same_o kind_n so_o also_o papist_n be_v justify_v against_o all_o the_o charge_n of_o our_o divine_n who_o accuse_v they_o for_o use_v of_o jewish_a and_o heathenish_a ceremony_n for_o they_o be_v not_o the_o same_o individual_o and_o numeral_o but_o only_o in_o kind_n with_o those_o which_o jew_n and_o heathen_n use_v so_o the_o meaning_n of_o the_o scripture_n forbid_v conformity_n with_o the_o heathen_a idolater_n shall_v only_o be_v of_o use_v the_o same_o particular_a rite_n and_o ceremony_n with_o they_o as_o if_o when_o the_o cut_n of_o their_o head_n &_o round_v of_o their_o hair_n like_o the_o heathen_a be_v forbid_v to_o the_o israelite_n leu._n 18._o &_o 19_o there_o have_v be_v danger_n lest_o the_o people_n of_o israel_n shall_v either_o get_v heathen_a man_n head_n and_o set_v they_o upon_o their_o shoulder_n or_o heathen_a man_n beard_n and_o set_v they_o upon_o their_o face_n and_o then_o put_v they_o into_o the_o forbid_a fashion_n it_o be_v but_o folly_n to_o confute_v large_o such_o a_o beggarly_a assertion_n but_o if_o say_v the_o def._n the_o same_o general_o be_v forbid_v than_o you_o can_v justify_v any_o one_o of_o your_o own_o ceremony_n of_o order_n and_o decency_n why_o so_o because_o there_o be_v no_o gesture_n or_o circumstance_n of_o worship_n which_o have_v not_o be_v abuse_v to_o idolatry_n now_o he_o show_v plain_o wherefore_o he_o set_v down_o only_o a_o piece_n of_o the_o assumption_n for_o if_o the_o reader_n mark_n that_o our_o assumption_n be_v only_o of_o ceremony_n devise_v by_o man_n and_o of_o no_o necessary_a use_n than_o he_o shall_v see_v that_o this_o poor_a objection_n concern_v circumstance_n of_o order_n and_o decency_n can_v have_v no_o place_n here_o for_o they_o be_v of_o necessary_a use_n in_o their_o kind_n neither_o be_v they_o mere_a invention_n of_o man_n as_o the_o ceremony_n be_v by_o bellarmine_n own_o confession_n the_o effect_n sacr_n lib._n 2._o c._n 29._o for_o the_o second_o that_o our_o ceremony_n be_v not_o 〈◊〉_d the_o same_o which_o the_o papist_n have_v solemn_o abuse_v to_o idolatry_n if_o this_o be_v grant_v it_o be_v no_o marvel_n for_o it_o be_v altogether_o impossible_a to_o carry_v the_o same_o particular_a sign_n of_o the_o cross_n so_o far_o as_o from_o the_o font_n to_o the_o church_n door_n or_o to_o keep_v it_o in_o be_v so_o long_o as_o it_o be_v in_o make_v have_v not_o the_o def._n then_o find_v out_o a_o great_a subtle_a mystery_n in_o this_o distinction_n yet_o it_o seem_v more_o true_a that_o the_o papist_n do_v give_v divine_a honour_n unto_o the_o same_o individual_a ceremony_n which_o be_v use_v in_o england_n especial_o to_o the_o sign_n of_o the_o cross_n as_o it_o be_v use_v among_o we_o for_o bellarmine_n ascribe_v divine_a honour_n and_o operation_n unto_o the_o sign_n of_o the_o cross_n as_o it_o be_v use_v by_o heathen_n by_o jew_n by_o julian_n the_o apostate_n bell●de_fw-mi eff_fw-mi sacr_n l._n 2._o c._n 31._o though_o the_o papist_n count_v we_o heretic_n and_o i_o know_v not_o what_o yet_o they_o esteem_v we_o not_o worse_o than_o pagan_n unbelieved_a jew_n &_o curse_a apostate_n see_v therefore_o they_o yield_v such_o honour_n to_o this_o sign_n as_o it_o be_v use_v by_o they_o they_o can_v deny_v it_o unto_o our_o individual_a cross_n the_o last_o conceit_n that_o our_o ceremony_n be_v not_o formal_o the_o same_o with_o the_o papist_n because_o we_o have_v another_o intention_n and_o opinion_n of_o they_o then_o they_o and_o therefore_o need_v not_o be_v abolish_v be_v as_o vain_a as_o the_o former_a for_o not_o to_o dispute_v here_o of_o material_a and_o formal_a identity_n 1._o a_o very_a show_n of_o idolatry_n must_v be_v abstain_v from_o and_o abolish_v 2._o it_o can_v be_v say_v simple_o and_o true_o that_o our_o intention_n and_o opinion_n concern_v the_o ceremony_n be_v not_o the_o same_o with_o the_o papist_n for_o we_o have_v no_o intention_n or_o opinion_n in_o the_o use_n of_o the_o cross_n or_o other_o ceremony_n but_o the_o papist_n have_v the_o same_o only_o they_o have_v some_o other_o opinion_n about_o these_o thing_n which_o we_o have_v not_o and_o if_o this_o do_v make_v a_o ceremony_n not_o the_o same_o that_o man_n have_v not_o altogether_o the_o same_o opinion_n of_o it_o then_o among_o the_o papist_n there_o be_v also_o as_o many_o kind_n of_o ceremony_n cross_n surplice_n etc._n etc._n as_o there_o be_v diversity_n of_o opinion_n about_o their_o nature_n and_o use_n which_o no_o man_n will_v say_v 3._o the_o altar_n erect_v by_o vria_n 2._o king_n 16._o be_v a_o idolatrous_a altar_n like_o that_o of_o damascus_n though_o it_o be_v for_o
another_o intention_n 4._o the_o papist_n do_v ascribe_v divine_a honour_n to_o the_o ceremony_n use_v with_o our_o intention_n as_o former_o be_v show_v out_o of_o bellarmine_n 5._o this_o be_v the_o papist_n answer_v when_o they_o be_v accuse_v for_o symbolise_v with_o pagan_n and_o jew_n in_o their_o ceremony_n licet_fw-la in_o externo_fw-la symbolo_fw-la sit_fw-la aliqua_fw-la similitudo_fw-la absolute_a tamen_fw-la maximum_fw-la est_fw-la discrimen_fw-la nam_fw-la à_fw-la sine_fw-la &_o intention_n sumunt_fw-la externae_fw-la actiones_fw-la speciem_fw-la svam_fw-la bell._n the_o effect_n sacr_n lib._n 2._o c._n 32._o sect_n xxii_o here_o as_o a_o ground_n of_o confutation_n the_o def._n set_v down_o the_o profession_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n which_o because_o he_o draw_v no_o conclusion_n from_o it_o be_v not_o needful_a to_o examine_v though_o it_o can_v be_v defend_v that_o the_o most_o abuse_a ceremony_n be_v take_v away_o as_o this_o profession_n tell_v we_o because_o no_o one_o ceremony_n among_o the_o papist_n have_v be_v so_o much_o abuse_v as_o the_o cross_n that_o therefore_o only_o i_o will_v have_v here_o mark_v how_o this_o profession_n do_v confute_v this_o defender_n for_o he_o will_v make_v we_o believe_v that_o none_o of_o the_o old_a ceremony_n use_v in_o popery_n be_v retain_v because_o they_o be_v not_o formal_o the_o same_o in_o respect_n of_o intention_n and_o opinion_n but_o this_o profession_n tell_v we_o plain_o that_o some_o of_o the_o old_a ceremony_n do_v remain_v sect_n xxiii_o no_o example_n can_v the_o defendant_n find_v in_o all_o the_o book_n of_o god_n for_o lawful_a reserve_n of_o idolatrous_a ceremony_n but_o only_o two_o one_o of_o gedeon_n judg._n 6._o 26._o and_o another_o of_o joshua_n los._n 6._o 19_o and_o yet_o of_o gedeon_n example_n the_o def._n himself_o confess_v that_o it_o be_v by_o special_a commandment_n from_o god_n and_o that_o it_o be_v not_o every_o way_n imitable_a and_o of_o joshuas_n beside_o that_o it_o be_v also_o the_o express_a commandment_n of_o god_n and_o that_o there_o be_v no_o mention_n make_v of_o thing_n appropriate_v unto_o idolatry_n but_o only_o of_o good_n which_o have_v be_v the_o possession_n of_o idolater_n so_o that_o he_o may_v fetch_v as_o good_a a_o argument_n and_o better_a from_o the_o spanish_a crusado_n for_o the_o cross_n in_o baptism_n then_o from_o the_o riches_n of_o jericho_n it_o do_v no_o way_n appear_v in_o the_o text_n but_o that_o the_o vessel_n be_v first_o melt_v and_o then_o the_o gold_n only_o and_o the_o silver_n brass_n or_o iron_n of_o they_o bring_v into_o the_o tabernacle_n so_o that_o by_o this_o wretched_a penury_n of_o scripture_n proof_n it_o be_v manifest_a that_o the_o warrant_v for_o retain_v of_o humane_a idolatrous_a ceremony_n must_v be_v fetch_v out_o of_o another_o court_n then_o that_o which_o god_n hold_v in_o his_o holy_a word_n sect_n xxiiii_o i_o have_v think_v very_o that_o the_o def._n will_v have_v bring_v some_o pregnant_a testimony_n out_o of_o the_o father_n though_o he_o can_v find_v none_o in_o the_o holy_a scripture_n but_o he_o be_v here_o also_o as_o far_o to_o seek_v as_o before_o for_o he_o bring_v nothing_o at_o all_o worth_a the_o answer_n the_o feast_n of_o easter_n which_o now_o the_o four_o time_n be_v bring_v upon_o the_o stage_n by_o the_o def._n in_o vain_a be_v never_o general_o observe_v at_o the_o same_o time_n with_o the_o jew_n nor_o ever_o so_o appoint_v by_o any_o decree_n or_o canon_n of_o council_n if_o it_o have_v yet_o that_o have_v be_v but_o a_o agreement_n in_o a_o circumstance_n of_o time_n and_o the_o translation_n of_o it_o to_o another_o time_n do_v show_v they_o like_v of_o no_o conformity_n of_o jew_n there_o be_v feast_n also_o appoint_v at_o time_n differ_v from_o heretic_n what_o cart-rope_n will_v draw_v a_o conclusion_n from_o hence_o for_o conformity_n with_o idolater_n in_o their_o ceremony_n beside_o feast_n &_o fast_n he_o name_v 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therefore_o as_o we_o that_o differ_v from_o they_o especial_o when_o we_o urge_v nothing_o of_o we_o upon_o they_o but_o they_o impose_v their_o own_o device_n upon_o we_o and_o so_o be_v cause_n of_o the_o difference_n 4._o the_o amazement_n which_o some_o have_v wonder_v what_o will_v be_v the_o event_n of_o difference_n be_v no_o damnable_a error_n which_o by_o the_o def._n be_v require_v to_o a_o scandal_n sect_n 1._o and_o if_o they_o grow_v remiss_a in_o religion_n upon_o it_o that_o be_v their_o sin_n i_o be_o sure_a zeal_n against_o superstition_n and_o for_o pure_a and_o undefiled_a worship_n have_v no_o fitness_n in_o it_o to_o work_n remissness_n in_o religion_n but_o urge_v of_o humane_a device_n in_o god_n worship_n tend_v direct_o thither_o sect_n xviii_o the_o second_o charge_n of_o scandal_n be_v in_o respect_n of_o the_o separatist_n where_o 1._o i_o ask_v if_o gaius_n have_v make_v a_o separation_n from_o the_o church_n wherein_o diotrephes_n live_v whether_o the_o 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separation_n sect_n xix_o xx._n in_o the_o next_o place_n the_o papist_n be_v allege_v as_o person_n offend_v by_o non-conformitie_n because_o they_o be_v utter_o unperswadeable_a to_o enter_v into_o a_o church_n where_o all_o ancient_a rite_n be_v profess_o reject_v but_o 1._o the_o refuse_v of_o conformity_n by_o the_o minister_n do_v not_o i_o hope_v make_v these_o ancient_a rite_n much_o less_o all_o to_o be_v profess_o reject_v by_o our_o church_n for_o than_o we_o may_v plead_v the_o profession_n of_o our_o mother_n as_o well_o as_o the_o defendant_n which_o he_o i_o be_o sure_a will_v not_o grant_v 2._o this_o assertion_n which_o be_v give_v as_o a_o reason_n be_v evident_o false_a for_o in_o scotland_n france_n the_o low-countries_n and_o such_o like_a church_n where_o none_o of_o these_o ceremony_n be_v retain_v the_o power_n of_o god_n word_n which_o do_v not_o depend_v on_o human_a ceremony_n be_v as_o ●ffectuall_a to_o the_o conversion_n of_o papist_n as_o in_o england_n 3._o how_o do_v this_o agree_v with_o that_o which_o the_o defendant_n have_v so_o often_o tell_v we_o that_o our_o ceremony_n be_v not_o the_o same_o with_o the_o papist_n ceremony_n and_o that_o the_o papist_n have_v no_o great_a conceit_n of_o our_o ceremony_n cap._n 2._o sect_n 1●_n 4._o if_o our_o contention_n about_o these_o thing_n be_v a_o scandal_n to_o the_o papist_n let_v they_o look_v to_o it_o that_o cast_v these_o apple_n of_o contention_n into_o the_o church_n under_o the_o pretence_n of_o peace_n and_o uniformity_n 5._o one_o minister_n without_o conformity_n as_o old_a mr._n midsly_n of_o ratsdell_n who_o be_v after_o silence_v for_o his_o labour_n have_v conver_v more_o papist_n then_o any_o i_o may_v say_v then_o all_o of_o the_o bishop_n in_o england_n with_o all_o his_o ceremonial_a observation_n 6._o it_o be_v
well_o know_v that_o there_o be_v far_o more_o papist_n and_o popish_o affect_v in_o those_o place_n where_o ceremony_n be_v most_o observe_v then_o where_o they_o have_v be_v disuse_v 7._o it_o be_v answer_v in_o the_o abridgement_n pag._n 47._o 48._o that_o ceremony_n be_v not_o for_o the_o edification_n of_o the_o papist_n but_o for_o the_o harden_v of_o they_o and_o that_o papist_n be_v not_o so_o much_o to_o be_v respect_v as_o brethren_n to_o the_o latter_a of_o which_o word_n the_o defendant_n reply_v with_o a_o descant_n upon_o the_o term_n brethren_n sect_n 20._o but_o say_v nothing_o at_o all_o to_o the_o purpose_n 8._o what_o manner_n of_o convert_n they_o be_v usual_o who_o be_v addict_v to_o humane_a ceremony_n we_o may_v see_v in_o the_o archbishop_n of_o spalleto_n and_o such_o other_o sect_n xxi_o the_o great_a scandal_n of_o all_o say_v the_o defend_n be_v against_o the_o church_n now_o this_o nonconformist_n be_v make_v guilty_a of_o two_o way_n 1._o comparative_o 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