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A46413 King James, his apopthegmes, or table-talke as they were by him delivered occasionally and by the publisher (his quondam servant) carefully received, and now humbly offered to publique view, as not impertinent to the present times / by B.A. gent. Agar, Ben, 17th cent.; James I, King of England, 1566-1625. 1643 (1643) Wing J127; ESTC R8288 14,692 16

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it so doe the pleasures of the world delight the men of the world Thirdly It maketh men drunken and light in the head so doe the vanities of the world men are drunken therewith Fourthly He that taketh Tobacco saith he cannot leave it it doth bewitch him even so the pleasures of the world makes men loath to leave them they are for the most part so inchanted with them Besides the former allusion it is like hell in the very substance of it for it is a stinking loathsome thing so is hell it goeth in at the mouth and out at the nose so doth the smoke of hell through the body and head 11. That he hath heard an old Minister say touching conformity that it would be a scandall for himselfe to conforme yet will allow that his son may doe it as if he living a foole all his life desired so to die c. Nono die Januar. An. Dom. 1617. That the Puritan Ministers doe give growth unto the Papists and are a scandall to the true Protestant profession c. That on Christmas day last past there were Sermons preached in divers parts of Scotland viz. At Glas●oc Holyredoes and at Saint Andrewes and chose Texts concerning the Nativity of Christ which was more than had been done there long before That the Rector of Saint Andrewes after the Kings last being there said that in his Kirk he would constrain the Communicants to stand or kneele for hee would have but few at one time and where they received should be neither Stool nor Forme so that of necessity they should either stand or kneele That a Minister in Edenborough did baptize a Childe through favour to the Parents contrary to their Presbyterian Canons the which thing to doe none can be drawne unto by the Canons of the Church of England As for example whereas it is by their Lawes that no baptisme shall be administred but upon one certaine day and at a Sermon and in the Church and not elsewhere upon any occasion no not in case of necissity when the child is like to die without it this is their Law absolute there is no minister will be wrought by the King or Canons of the Church to do otherwise yet upon a time this Minister through favor of some perticuler parsons did goe to baptise a child that was sick upon another day without any Sermon and comming hastily to the Church and finding the doores shut did baptise the same child without the walls of the Church in the yard without any scruple of conscience and yet being induced thereunto by the King and Cannons of the Church of England he refused to do the like c. That some of the ministers of Scotland did confesse that they were in as great extreame on the one side as the Papists were on the other The like was observed for the Sacrament to the sick at home they refused in all cases of necessity yet it was once done through savour to one particular person in which case I confesse they did not amisse but very ill in refusing to do it by the Kings order That a certaine minister did refuse to do as the King bade him albeit it were a thing no way contrary to Gods command or word and said peremptorily if hee did it he was damned being demanded his reason thereof said I am Gods Ambassador and if I performe any thing but what he expressely commands by his word I am a Traytor and so consequently I am damned 12. Anno Dom. 1618. That no man can thrive that keepeth a whoore at rack and manger to wit openly with iustification c. That to rove is proper to expresse the action of the body but to rave is an action of the mind That miracles are now used and maintained among the Papists to the end to confirme a false beleef on Saints according as at first Christ used miracles to cause and confirme a true beleefe on himselfe Evanglikes are not all Evangelists c. That he is not of opinion that all specches in Scripture touching beasts or foules by allegory doth agree with the proper and Peculiar natures of them as of that Be Wise as Serpents c. or that comparison in Job to the Ostridge that seemeth to neglect her young by leaving her eggs in the dust c. which is not the proper nature of them as hath been approoved by Barbary marchants that have seen them but it seemeth so outwardly because she hideth her eggs in the sand and so removeth a little from them but surely for no other end but to protect them that at the time of need and in the hatching to break the shell which of it selfe cannot 13. Anno Dom. 1619. That there was never any noted Heretique but the Sect of him were much more hereticall That he could find more arguments in the papists works for the Pope then the Pope himselfe could doe c. That the Canonists are the very Divels of all the rest c That Peter seeing Malchus his Kinsman witnesse against him made him feare the more and so denyed his Master That if they had accused Christ of ryot the same witnesse would have proved matter to declare his Divinity in healing his eare againe To commit a sin against the letter of the law morall is greater then a sin against the consequent as for example adultery is a greater sin then fornication c. That he stiled a booke once sent him by the name of Melchisedecke being without beginning or ending c. That he readeth more Papists bookes then Protestant and from thence findeth matter to confirme him in the Protestant Religion That taking all things to the strait tenor of the written letter is the matter of jarre 'twixt Puritans and Us That Henry 4. of France would have sent Cardinall Peron to convert him the which he denyed for that he held him weake and shallow and refused to loose a heavenly crowne for an earthly c. That he would not admit a publike disputation between 12. Papists 12. Protestants himselfe being chosen Umpire because he might loose more that would not be satisfied then he could win although the Papists side were convicted That in 88. he almost converted a Papist untill he heard of the Spanish invasion 14. 4. Novemb. Anno Dom. 1620. At Theobalds c. Discourse concerning Alchymy The Alchymists from a true position doe produce a false assumption to maintaine their practise as for example every creature or thing hath a naturall inclination to the perfection of the same kind as poore silly wormes by change of climat may become Serpents and in all Minerals the perfection is gold so all inferiall Mettals have inclination to gold which is but as we say the quintessence fat or creame of other Mettals and not consisting in any veine of it selfe Now from this generall position the Alchymist with a certaine composition with other Mettals most having some gold in them doe thinke to ripen them
KING JAMES HIS APOPTHEGMES OR TABLE-TALKE AS THEY VVERE BY Him delivered Occasionally AND By the publisher His quondam Servant carefully received AND Now humbly offered to publique view as Not impertinent to the present Times By B. A. Gent. London printed by B. W. 1643. The Preface or Induction to the Reader AS the Queen of Sheba declared the servants of Solomon to be happy which stood continually before him and that heard his wisdome 1 King 10. 8. I may as confidently affirm that never since hath any Age produced a Prince of so neere affinity or resemblance unto him who of so ample indowments in wisdome judgement and equity hath enlarged himselfe in his life time witnesse the many and manifold unparalelled Trophies of his excellencies yet remaining which flowed not alone from his pen and indefatigable dexterity but sacred lips also by eloquent discourses as well as profound documents and deep Commentaries whereof a late extraction is yet extant in view I therefore conceived it a needfull duty in pious imitation of the former to revive the memory of so just and learned a master in his ordinary discourses and Table-talke accounting my selfe the most happy though least worthy of many to partake of such gracious opportunities which those Halcian dayes did plentifully afford conceiving it might be objected against me as a piece of ingratitude to have deprived the time or posterlty of such Gems and inferences meet for discourse upon contingent occasions These were heedfully observed and carefully taken from the sacred mouth of the first Speaker King JAMES of famous memory accidentally falling long time since upon discourse and Table-talke at open meales in his Majesties royall presence or privy Chamber doubtlesse in the hearing and yet perfect remembrance of divers of his Majesties neere servitu●es and attendants yet living they were assiduously collected as well at his Majesties own standing houses as also in his forraigne progresse both in England and Scotland with the sundry times and places when where and upon what occasions or arguments they were uttered a Catalogue whereof I have presumed hereafter to insert for some peculiar use of these refractory times all which I may boldly affirme have been providently preserved and newly revised and published in times of distemper and distraction who knoweth otherwise then to make good and accomplish the ancient and moderne prophesies and predictions of those contingencies which have reference to the Royall Person of so incomparable a Soveraign whereof some have had their period already in and upon his Person living and now since his decease may from his Corps and Ashes reflect some analogy and resemblance as for example in that of Mother Shepton That England should tremble and quake for dread A dead man that should speake c. Before I dare not conclude or determine but then in fine I am assured when together with that royall sacred and divine Spirit of his soule and body re-unite each single person no lesse members as glorious Saints of God with Angels and Archangels shall in a joyfull and heavenly Quire with the Church Triumphant sing Gloria in excelsis c. for evermore Amen To wa●● the Vulgars Cataract and quit each single stake I 've 〈◊〉 the light growne dim by what a dead King spake Per me B. A. KING IAMES HIS APOPTHEGMES OR TABLE-TALKE 1. THAT it is a Maxime in the Romish Religion declared by most of their own Writers That the Pope may if he will at one Masse free all the soules out of Purgatory His Majesties inference on this Position was with abnegation of the Popes Charity and admiration of his unparalel'd cruelty that being granted to have power so to doe doth not nor may not apply his will unto it If it were possible for one man to free all the world from hell ought he not to doe it c. 2. That the wearing of Leeks on St. Davids day by the Welchmen was a good honourable and commendable fashion seeing that all memorable acts have by their Agents something worne for distinction and also to preserve the memory thereof unto posterity even as the Passeover was to the Jews that when their children should aske why they went girded with staves in their hands they might shew them the cause c. So the Welchmen in commemoration of the great fight by their black Prince of Wales doe weare Leeks as their chosen Ensigne c. 3. At Cambridge c. That an infallid thing may be discerned and knowne by a fallid meanes as for example our senses are fallid but by them wee know many things infallid c. whence the Papists inferre that because the Church is visible therefore the chiefe Head must be visible The Universall Church consisteth of two parts one visible the other invisible to wit a visible body and an invisible spirit and therefore the chiefe Head of the Church should rather be visible but we grant many visible substitutes over the Church as subordinate Rulers under the Chiefe c. 4. His Majestie observed a quaint Interrogatory put to a jealous Lover out of that famous Comedy of Ignoramus the which his Majestie highly commended viz. whether he desired most or rather to be termed Publius Cornolius or Cornelius Tacitus In further approbation of which Comedie beside in opposition and dislike of another Comedie performed and acted before his Majestie by the Schollers of the Universitie of Oxford that as in Cambridge one Sleepe made him Wake so in Oxford one Wake made him Sleepe 5. Doctor Baily holding conference with the King touching the Popes Arrogancy alluding to Christs Answer to his Apostles He that desires to beare rule let him be the least among you and therefore the Pope doth sometimes colourably terme himselfe Servus Servorum c. To which the King replies that by such Argument or inference he could prove the Pope to be humbly minded to which the Doctor answeswered that he did not alwayes so account himselfe save onely when he had purpose to delude or deceive otherwise he esteemed himselfe Dominus Dominantium c. His Maiesties determination on the Point was that the Popes calling himselfe Servus Servorum c. was rather in a more strict and peculiar sence as th●t he was Servus Petri c. sive Mariae Virgims c. and so by consequence Servus servorum Dei c. toward all other Dominus Dominantium c. So likewise to be a professed Catholike is to be a true Christian but to be a Romane Catholike is it which marreth the matter It was the reproofe of the Donatists which were accounted Catholiques but confined their profession into one corner of Affrica So also the Romanists whereas the true Catholique is universall 6. At Edenbrough in Scotland tertio dei Junii Anno Dom. 1617. That whereas our Saviour saith It is as easie for a Camell to passe through the eye of an needle as for a rich man to enter into the Kingdome of Heaven c.