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fidelis_fw-la est_fw-la celat_fw-la amici_fw-la commissum_fw-la there_o be_v in_o this_o case_n some_o more_o reason_n than_o in_o ordinary_a secret_n but_o still_o the_o obligation_n be_v the_o same_o and_o to_o be_v govern_v by_o prudence_n and_o be_v subject_a to_o contradiction_n by_o great_a cause_n the_o same_o also_o be_v the_o law_n in_o the_o greek_a church_n amphilochium_n epist._n ad_fw-la amphilochium_n mention_v by_o s._n basil_n our_o father_n permit_v not_o that_o woman_n that_o have_v commit_v adultery_n and_o be_v penitent_a shall_v be_v delate_a in_o public_a 1603._o public_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d a._n d._n 1603._o this_o be_v the_o whole_a ground_n and_o foundation_n on_o which_o the_o seal_n of_o confession_n do_v or_o can_v rely_v save_v only_o that_o in_o several_a church_n there_o be_v several_a law_n in_o after-age_n to_o the_o same_o purpose_n and_o particular_o in_o the_o 11_o canon_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n add_v also_o the_o penalty_n of_o irregularity_n to_o every_o priest_n that_o shall_v reveal_v any_o thing_n commit_v to_o he_o in_o private_a confession_n but_o with_o this_o proviso_n that_o it_o be_v not_o bind_v in_o such_o case_n where_o the_o concealment_n be_v make_v capital_a by_o the_o law_n of_o the_o kingdom_n which_o because_o it_o be_v very_o strict_a and_o yet_o very_o prudent_a i_o shall_v make_v it_o appear_v that_o the_o church_n of_o england_n walk_v wise_o in_o it_o and_o according_a to_o the_o precedent_n of_o the_o ancient_n catholic_n church_n in_o command_v the_o seal_n to_o be_v break_v up_o in_o some_o case_n and_o yet_o she_o have_v restrain_v it_o more_o than_o former_o be_v observe_v in_o the_o church_n of_o god_n burchard_n express_o affirm_v 21._o lib._n 19_o decreti_fw-la svi_fw-la c._n 37._o council_n moguaâ—_n cap._n 10._o &_o 21._o that_o before_o the_o nicene_n council_n the_o penitentiary_n priest_n may_v publish_v what_o he_o hear_v in_o confession_n if_o it_o be_v for_o the_o good_a of_o the_o penitent_a or_o for_o the_o greatness_n of_o the_o crime_n it_o seem_v fit_a to_o the_o confessor_n and_o that_o he_o say_v true_a we_o have_v sufficient_a testimony_n from_o
consider_v how_o cheap_a be_v the_o life_n of_o king_n in_o their_o eye_n who_o consult_v more_o with_o the_o safety_n of_o a_o villain_n who_o they_o dare_v not_o absolve_v 13â—_n absolve_v script_n garnetti_n apud_fw-la is._n casaub_n ni_fw-fr epist._n ad_fw-la fron._n du_n caeum_n p._n 13â—_n than_o of_o a_o king_n who_o be_v worthy_a ten_o thousand_o of_o his_o people_n and_o let_v it_o be_v also_o consider_v that_o by_o use_v all_o the_o way_n in_o the_o world_n to_o make_v confession_n easy_a to_o traitor_n and_o homicide_n they_o make_v it_o odious_a to_o king_n and_o prince_n and_o to_o all_o that_o love_v the_o safety_n of_o their_o sovereign_n and_o of_o the_o public_a we_o find_v that_o the_o law_n of_o god_n yield_v to_o charity_n and_o necessity_n and_o christ_n follow_v the_o act_n of_o david_n who_o when_o he_o be_v hungry_a eat_v the_o shewbread_n which_o be_v unlawful_a to_o be_v eat_v but_o by_o the_o priest_n alone_o and_o he_o that_o command_v we_o to_o go_v and_o learn_v what_o that_o mean_n i_o will_v have_v mercy_n and_o not_o sacrifice_n intend_v not_o that_o the_o seal_n of_o confession_n shall_v upon_o pretence_n of_o religion_n be_v use_v to_o the_o most_o uncharitable_a end_n in_o the_o world_n no_o though_o it_o have_v be_v make_v sacred_a by_o a_o divine_a commandment_n which_o it_o be_v not_o but_o be_v whole_o introduce_v by_o custom_n and_o canon_n ecclesiastical_a and_o when_o we_o see_v that_o thing_n dedicate_v to_o god_n and_o make_v sacred_a by_o religion_n and_o the_o law_n of_o god_n confirm_v such_o religion_n can_v be_v alien_v and_o make_v common_a in_o case_n of_o extreme_a necessity_n or_o great_a charity_n it_o be_v a_o strange_a superstition_n that_o shall_v hold_v that_o fast_o with_o tooth_n and_o nail_n and_o never_o let_v it_o go_v no_o not_o to_o save_v a_o soul_n not_o to_o preserve_v the_o life_n of_o king_n not_o to_o prevent_v the_o great_a mischief_n in_o the_o world_n this_o be_v certain_o a_o make_v the_o commandment_n of_o man_n great_a and_o more_o sacred_a than_o the_o commandment_n of_o god_n and_o a_o pass_v they_o into_o a_o doctrine_n great_a necessary_a and_o unalterable_a as_o a_o fundamental_a article_n section_n xi_o of_o the_o impose_v auricular_a confession_n upon_o conscience_n without_o authority_n from_o god_n that_o confession_n to_o a_o priest_n be_v a_o doctrine_n teach_v as_o necessary_a in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v without_o all_o question_n and_o yet_o that_o it_o be_v but_o the_o commandment_n of_o man_n i_o shall_v i_o hope_v clear_o enough_o evince_n and_o if_o i_o do_v i_o suppose_v the_o charge_n lay_v against_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n which_o be_v the_o same_o christ_n lay_v against_o the_o pharisee_n will_v be_v full_o make_v good_a as_o to_o this_o instance_n for_o this_o be_v one_o of_o the_o sort_n of_o that_o crime_n to_o say_v dixit_fw-la dominus_fw-la dominus_fw-la autem_fw-la non_fw-la dixit_fw-la to_o pretend_v a_o rite_n to_o be_v of_o divine_a institution_n when_o it_o be_v not_o so_o but_o humanum_fw-la inventum_fw-la a_o device_n of_o man_n brain_n the_o other_o which_o be_v still_o suppose_v a_o institution_n to_o be_v humane_a and_o positive_a yet_o to_o urge_v it_o with_o the_o same_o severe_a religion_n as_o they_o do_v a_o divine_a commandment_n i_o shall_v consider_v in_o other_o instance_n for_o the_o present_a the_o inquiry_n be_v concern_v auricular_a confession_n and_o its_o pretend_a necessity_n the_o first_o decree_n concern_v it_o be_v in_o the_o lateran_n council_n 21._o can._n 21._o in_o which_o every_o person_n of_o year_n of_o discretion_n be_v command_v to_o confess_v all_o his_o sin_n to_o his_o own_o priest_n at_o lest_o once_o in_o the_o year_n or_o to_o another_o priest_n with_o the_o leave_n of_o his_o own_o otherwise_o while_o he_o be_v live_v he_o must_v be_v drive_v from_o entrance_n into_o the_o church_n and_o when_o he_o be_v dead_a he_o must_v have_v no_o christian_a burial_n this_o be_v very_o severe_a but_o yet_o here_o be_v no_o damnation_n to_o they_o that_o neglect_v it_o and_o the_o duty_n be_v not_o pretend_v to_o be_v by_o divine_a commandment_n and_o therefore_o lest_o that_o severity_n may_v seem_v too_o much_o to_o be_v lay_v upon_o humane_a law_n they_o make_v it_o up_o in_o the_o new_a forge_n at_o trent_n and_o there_o it_o be_v decree_v that_o to_o confess_v all_o and_o every_o mortal_a sin_n which_o after_o diligent_a inquiry_n we_o remember_v and_o every_o evil_a thought_n or_o desire_n 7._o sess._n 14._o capp_n 6._o &_o 7._o and_o the_o circumstance_n that_o change_v the_o nature_n of_o the_o sin_n be_v necessary_a for_o the_o remission_n of_o sin_n and_o of_o divine_a institution_n and_o he_o that_o deny_v this_o be_v to_o be_v anathema_n whether_o to_o confess_v to_o a_o priest_n be_v a_o adviseable_a discipline_n and_o a_o good_a instance_n instrument_n and_o ministry_n of_o repentance_n and_o may_v serve_v many_o good_a end_n in_o the_o church_n and_o to_o the_o soul_n of_o need_v person_n be_v be_v no_o part_n of_o the_o question_n we_o find_v that_o in_o the_o act_n of_o the_o apostle_n divers_a convert_v person_n come_v to_o s._n paul_n either_o public_o or_o private_o and_o confess_v their_o deed_n 〈◊〉_d deed_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d i_o e._n magicas_fw-la incantationes_fw-la simile_n illud_fw-la ibidem_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d nimirum_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o burn_v their_o book_n of_o exorcism_n that_o be_v do_v what_o become_v severe_a and_o hearty_a penitent_n who_o need_v counsel_n and_o comfort_n and_o that_o their_o repentance_n shall_v be_v conduct_v by_o wise_a guide_n and_o when_o s._n james_n exhort_v all_o christian_n to_o confess_v their_o sin_n to_o one_o another_o certain_o it_o be_v more_o agreeable_a to_o all_o spiritual_a end_n that_o this_o be_v do_v rather_o to_o the_o curate_n of_o soul_n than_o to_o the_o ordinary_a brethren_n the_o church_n of_o england_n be_v no_o way_n engage_v against_o it_o but_o advise_v it_o and_o practice_n it_o the_o calvinist-churche_n do_v not_o practice_v it_o much_o because_o they_o know_v not_o well_o how_o to_o divest_v it_o from_o its_o evil_a appendage_n which_o be_v put_v to_o it_o by_o the_o custom_n of_o the_o world_n and_o to_o which_o it_o be_v too_o much_o expose_v by_o the_o interest_n weakness_n and_o partiality_n of_o man_n but_o they_o commend_v it_o show_v they_o will_v use_v it_o willing_o if_o they_o can_v order_v it_o unto_o edification_n 13._o edification_n calvin_n instit._fw-la lib._n 3._o cap._n 4._o sect._n 12._o 13._o interim_n quin_fw-la sistant_fw-la se_fw-la pastori_fw-la oves_fw-la quoties_fw-la sacram_fw-la coenam_fw-la participare_fw-la volunt_fw-la adeò_fw-la non_fw-la reclamo_fw-la ut_fw-la maximè_fw-la velim_fw-la hoc_fw-la ubique_fw-la observari_fw-la and_o for_o the_o lutheran_n church_n that_o it_o be_v their_o practice_n we_o may_v see_v it_o in_o poenit_fw-la in_o 2._o part._n exam._n council_n trid._n cap._n 5._o de_fw-la poenit_fw-la chemnitius_n who_o be_v one_o of_o great_a fame_n among_o they_o and_o he_o be_v note_v to_o this_o purpose_n by_o kemnitius_n by_o lib._n 3._o de_fw-la poenit_fw-la cap._n 1._o sect._n martinus_n kemnitius_n bellarmin_n only_o they_o all_o consent_n that_o it_o be_v not_o necessary_a nor_o of_o divine_a institution_n and_o be_v but_o of_o man_n invention_n it_o ought_v not_o to_o pass_v into_o a_o doctrine_n and_o as_o the_o apostle_n say_v in_o the_o matter_n of_o circumcision_n a_o burden_n ought_v not_o to_o be_v put_v upon_o the_o neck_n of_o the_o disciple_n and_o that_o in_o lege_fw-la gratiae_fw-la scoto_n in_o â—_o do_v 17._o q._n 2._o ex_fw-la scoto_n longè_fw-la difficilimum_fw-la too_o as_o mayor_n observe_v true_o by_o far_o great_a than_o any_o burden_n in_o the_o law_n of_o grace_n the_o time_n of_o the_o gospel_n let_v it_o be_v command_v to_o all_o to_o who_o it_o be_v needful_a or_o profitable_a but_o let_v it_o be_v free_a as_o to_o the_o conscience_n precise_o and_o bind_v but_o by_o the_o cord_n of_o a_o man_n and_o as_o other_o ecclesiastical_a law_n be_v which_o be_v capable_a of_o exception_n restriction_n caution_n dispensation_n rescinding_n and_o abolition_n by_o the_o same_o authority_n or_o upon_o great_a reason_n the_o question_n than_o be_v whether_o to_o confess_v all_o our_o great_a sin_n to_o a_o priest_n all_o that_o upon_o strict_a enquiry_n we_o can_v remember_v be_v necessary_a to_o salvation_n this_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n now_o affirm_v and_o this_o the_o church_n of_o england_n and_o all_o protestant_a church_n deny_v and_o complain_v sad_o that_o the_o commandment_n of_o man_n be_v change_v into_o the_o doctrine_n of_o god_n by_o a_o pharisaical_a empire_n and_o superstition_n here_o than_o we_o join_v issue_n 1._o and_o in_o the_o first_o place_n i_o shall_v represent_v that_o the_o
present_o after_o death_n to_o mean_v the_o day_n of_o judgement_n of_o the_o time_n of_o which_o neither_o man_n nor_o angel_n know_v any_o thing_n and_o whereas_o justin_n martyr_n say_v that_o present_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o righteous_a go_v to_o paradise_n 33._o pag._n 33._o e._n w._n answer_n 2._o that_o justin_n do_v not_o say_v that_o all_o just_a soul_n be_v carry_v present_o into_o heaven_n no_o justin_n say_v into_o paradise_n true_a but_o let_v it_o be_v remember_v that_o it_o be_v so_o a_o part_n of_o heaven_n as_o limbus_fw-la infantum_fw-la be_v by_o themselves_o call_v a_o part_n of_o hell_n that_o be_v a_o place_n of_o bliss_n the_o region_n of_o the_o bless_a but_o 3._o justin_n say_v that_o present_o there_o be_v a_o separation_n make_v but_o he_o say_v not_o that_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o righteous_a be_v carry_v to_o paradise_n that_o be_v the_o next_o answer_n which_o the_o very_a word_n of_o justin_n do_v contradict_v there_o be_v present_o a_o separation_n make_v of_o the_o just_a and_o unjust_a for_o they_o be_v by_o the_o angel_n carry_v to_o the_o place_n they_o have_v deserve_v this_o be_v the_o separation_n which_o be_v make_v one_o be_v carry_v to_o paradise_n the_o other_o to_o a_o place_n in_o hell_n but_o these_o be_v such_o pitiful_a offer_n at_o answer_v the_o gentleman_n try_v another_o way_n and_o say_v 4._o that_o this_o affirmative_a of_o justin_n contradict_v another_o say_n of_o justin_n which_o i_o cite_v out_o of_o sixtus_n senensis_n that_o justin_n martyr_n and_o many_o other_o of_o the_o father_n affirm_v that_o the_o soul_n of_o man_n be_v keep_v in_o secret_a receptacle_n reserve_v unto_o the_o sentence_n of_o the_o great_a day_n and_o that_o before_o then_o no_o man_n receive_v according_a to_o his_o work_n do_v in_o this_o life_n to_o this_o i_o answer_v that_o one_o opinion_n do_v not_o contradict_v another_o for_o though_o the_o father_n believe_v that_o they_o who_o die_v in_o the_o lord_n rest_n from_o their_o labour_n and_o be_v in_o bless_a place_n and_o have_v antepast_n of_o joy_n and_o comfort_n yet_o in_o those_o place_n they_o be_v reserve_v unto_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o great_a day_n the_o intermedial_a joy_n or_o sorrow_n respective_o of_o the_o just_a and_o unjust_a do_v but_o antedate_v the_o final_a sentence_n and_o as_o the_o comfort_n of_o god_n spirit_n in_o this_o life_n be_v indeed_o grace_n of_o god_n and_o reward_n of_o piety_n as_o the_o torment_n of_o a_o evil_a conscience_n be_v the_o wage_n of_o impiety_n yet_o as_o these_o do_v not_o hinder_v but_o that_o the_o great_a reward_n be_v give_v at_o doomsday_n and_o not_o before_o so_o neither_o do_v the_o joy_n which_o the_o righteous_a have_v in_o the_o interval_n they_o can_v both_o consist_v together_o and_o be_v general_o affirm_v by_o very_a many_o of_o the_o greek_a and_o latin_a father_n 36._o e._n w._n pag._n 36._o and_o methinks_v this_o gentleman_n may_v have_v learn_v from_o sixtus_n senensis_n how_o to_o have_v reconcile_v these_o two_o opinion_n for_o he_o quote_v he_o say_v there_o be_v a_o double_a beatitude_n the_o one_o imperfect_a of_o soul_n only_o the_o other_o consummate_v and_o perfect_a of_o soul_n and_o body_n the_o first_o the_o father_n call_v by_o several_a name_n of_o sinus_n abrahae_fw-la atrium_n dei_fw-la sub_fw-la altar_n etc._n etc._n the_o other_o perfect_a joy_n the_o glory_n of_o the_o resurrection_n etc._n etc._n but_o it_o matter_n not_o what_o be_v say_v or_o how_o it_o be_v contradict_v so_o it_o seem_v but_o to_o serve_v a_o present_a turn_n but_o at_o last_o if_o nothing_o of_o this_o will_v do_v these_o word_n be_v not_o the_o word_n of_o justin_n for_o he_o be_v not_o the_o author_n of_o the_o question_n and_o answer_n ad_fw-la orthodoxos_fw-la to_o which_o i_o answer_v it_o matter_n not_o whether_o they_o be_v justins_n or_o no_o but_o they_o be_v put_v together_o in_o the_o collection_n of_o his_o work_n and_o they_o be_v general_o call_v his_o and_o cite_v under_o his_o name_n and_o make_v use_v of_o by_o bellarmine_n 6._o bellarmine_n lib._n de_fw-fr baptis_fw-la c._n 25._o &_o 26._o lib._n de_fw-fr confirmat_fw-la c._n 5_o l._n 3._o de_fw-fr euchar._n c._n 6._o when_o he_o suppose_v they_o to_o be_v to_o his_o purpose_n however_o the_o author_n be_v ancient_a and_o orthodox_n and_o so_o esteem_v in_o the_o church_n and_o in_o this_o particular_a speak_v according_a to_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o more_o ancient_a doctor_n well_o but_o how_o be_v this_o against_o purgatory_n say_v e._n w._n 29._o p._n 36._o line_n 29._o for_o they_o may_v be_v in_o secret_a receptacle_n after_o they_o have_v be_v in_o purgatory_n to_o this_o i_o answer_v that_o he_o dare_v not_o teach_v that_o for_o doctrine_n in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n who_o believe_v that_o the_o soul_n deliver_v out_o of_o purgatory_n go_v immediate_o to_o the_o heaven_n of_o the_o bless_a and_o therefore_o if_o his_o book_n have_v be_v worth_a the_o peruse_n 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