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A61864 Presbyteries triall, or, The occasion and motives of conversion to the Catholique faith of a person of quality in Scotland ; to which is svbioyned, A little tovch-stone of the Presbyterian covenant W. S. (William Stuart), d. 1677.; W. S. (William Stuart), d. 1677. A little tovch-stone of the Scottish Covenant. 1657 (1657) Wing S6028; ESTC R26948 309,680 599

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or_o lay_v that_o they_o can_v escape_v this_o way_n chap._n xxv_o that_o the_o protestant_a church_n be_v not_o visible_a before_o luther_n neither_o in_o the_o waldenses_n albigenses_n wiclifist_n nor_o husit_n that_o the_o protestant_a church_n may_v be_v continue_v in_o the_o waldenses_n and_o the_o same_o be_v to_o be_v observe_v of_o the_o albigenses_n and_o the_o rest_n two_o thing_n be_v to_o be_v prove_v by_o protestant_n 1._o that_o the_o waldenses_n have_v ever_o continue_v since_o the_o time_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o this_o be_v clear_a by_o the_o first_o undeniable_a principle_n of_o the_o perpetuity_n of_o the_o church_n 2._o that_o the_o waldenses_n be_v entire_o of_o that_o faith_n which_o the_o protestant_n do_v now_o or_o do_v profess_v that_o be_v believe_v any_o of_o their_o confession_n of_o faith_n for_o without_o this_o whole_a agreement_n the_o waldenses_n can_v not_o be_v a_o protestant_a church_n as_o be_v evident_a by_o the_o second_o principle_n above_o 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neither_o do_v they_o agree_v intir_o with_o protestant_n 224._o luth._o in_o colloq_fw-la c_o de_n sacr._n calvin_n epist_n 224._o in_o the_o principal_a article_n of_o their_o religion_n to_o wit_n in_o justification_n by_o faith_n only_o if_o we_o believe_v luther_n testimony_n and_o if_o we_o will_v trust_v calvin_n they_o hold_v also_o the_o real_a presence_n in_o the_o popish_a sense_n of_o transubstantiation_n therefore_o such_o man_n can_v not_o be_v protestant_n 3._o protest_v apol._n tract_n 2._o c._n 2._o sect_n 3._o sub_fw-la 3._o three_o they_o agree_v with_o the_o catholic_n in_o diverse_a other_o point_n as_o about_o the_o number_n &_o nature_n of_o the_o sacrament_n the_o vow_n of_o chastity_n the_o necessity_n of_o child_n baptism_n they_o begin_v a_o kind_n of_o religious_a order_n for_o which_o they_o be_v call_v the_o poor_a man_n of_o lion_n and_o seek_v confirmation_n of_o it_o from_o pope_n innocent_a
the_o three_o but_o can_v not_o obtain_v it_o last_o they_o maintain_v diverse_a gross_a error_n which_o be_v condemn_v both_o by_o catholic_n &_o protestant_n 4._o ibidem_fw-la subdivis_fw-la 4._o as_o 1._o that_o churchman_n by_o mortal_a sin_n lose_v all_o spiritual_a authority_n 2._o that_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n by_o mortal_a sin_n fall_v also_o from_o their_o dignity_n 3._o that_o churchman_n shall_v possess_v nothing_o in_o property_n 4._o that_o it_o be_v lawful_a to_o dissemble_v in_o religion_n and_o their_o practice_n be_v conform_v to_o their_o doctrine_n for_o they_o go_v to_o mass_n confess_v and_o communicate_v for_o which_o dissimulation_n the_o protestant_n at_o the_o beginnine_n will_v not_o acknowledge_v they_o for_o their_o brethren_n these_o and_o other_o gross_a error_n they_o maintain_v as_o may_v be_v see_v in_o the_o protestant_n apology_n where_o the_o author_n be_v at_o large_a cite_v but_o as_o these_o difference_n do_v show_v the_o waldenses_n not_o to_o be_v good_a protestant_n so_o i_o will_v bring_v some_o few_o to_o prove_v that_o they_o be_v ill_a presbyterian_o ibid._n gualte_n chron._n saeculo_fw-la 12._o c._n de_fw-fr walden_n o_o 2d_o &_o 32._o 3._o error_n 38._o ibid._n 1._o they_o admit_v no_o other_o form_n of_o prayer_n except_o our_o lord_n prayer_n the_o presbyterian_o admit_v many_o other_o but_o not_o that_o 2._o they_o allow_v only_o three_o order_n in_o the_o church_n to_o wit_n of_o deacon_n priest_n &_o bishop_n the_o presbyterian_o have_v abjure_v episcopacy_n &_o the_o whole_a hierarchy_n of_o the_o church_n 3_o the_o waldenses_n affirm_v that_o all_o oath_n be_v unlawful_a the_o presbyterian_o have_v take_v n_o and_o enforce_v other_o to_o take_v many_o unlawful_a oath_n in_o the_o covenant_n 4._o the_o waldenses_n maintain_v ibi_fw-la 4._o error_n 40._o ibi_fw-la that_o it_o be_v not_o lawful_a to_o put_v any_o man_n to_o death_n hy_o the_o sentence_n of_o a_o judge_n and_o therefore_o they_o abolish_v all_o judicatories_n in_o the_o cause_n of_o blood_n the_o covenanter_n have_v shed_v much_o blood_n under_o pretence_n of_o justice_n spare_v none_o of_o their_o opposer_n who_o come_v in_o their_o reverence_n ibid._n 5._o error_n 31._o ibid._n 5._o they_o consecrate_v ordinary_o their_o sacrament_n upon_o that_o day_n only_o whereon_o our_o saviour_n be_v betray_v and_o they_o keep_v it_o thus_o consecrate_a all_o the_o year_n long_o to_o be_v give_v to_o the_o sick_a the_o presbyterian_o do_v not_o profess_v to_o consecrate_v at_o all_o they_o give_v their_o sacrament_n very_o seldom_o to_o the_o whole_a and_o they_o have_v make_v a_o act_n never_o to_o give_v it_o to_o the_o sick_a i_o can_v find_v hardly_o any_o thing_n wherein_o the_o waldenses_n agree_v more_o with_o the_o presbyterian_o then_o with_o other_o protestant_n 37._o error_n 37._o except_o in_o this_o alone_a that_o they_o contemn_v the_o apostle_n creed_n which_o the_o presbyterian_o have_v more_o then_o probable_o do_v by_o deny_v it_o to_o be_v apostolical_a by_o all_o which_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o the_o waldenses_n do_v not_o continue_v since_o the_o time_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o from_o the_o time_n they_o arise_v they_o be_v not_o protestant_n much_o less_o presbyterian_o and_o so_o be_v deficient_a in_o both_o the_o principle_n 730._o fox_n acts._n pag._n 41._o illyric_n in_o catalogue_n test_n p._n 730._o therefore_o m_o fox_n illyricus_n and_o other_o protestant_n have_v their_o recourse_n very_o groundless_o to_o the_o waldenses_n to_o prove_v the_o continual_a visibility_n of_o their_o church_n by_o they_o and_o for_o this_o cause_n we_o must_v leave_v they_o &_o pass_v to_o the_o albigenses_n albigenses_n these_o man_n have_v their_o name_n from_o the_o town_n of_o albingia_n in_o france_n where_o the_o great_a part_n of_o they_o remain_v they_o begin_v in_o the_o same_o age_n with_o the_o waldenses_n and_o be_v a_o branch_n of_o their_o sect_n 332._o osiand_n cent._n 13_o l._n 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