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it_o for_o what_o injustice_n or_o tyranny_n etc._n etc._n can_v it_o be_v in_o any_o lawful_a superior_a have_v define_v what_o very_o he_o believe_v to_o be_v the_o truth_n of_o god_n and_o no_o way_n doubt_n of_o his_o have_v deduce_v it_o right_o from_o the_o scripture_n but_o yet_o know_v that_o he_o as_o a_o man_n be_v fallible_a and_o that_o it_o be_v possible_a he_o may_v have_v some_o way_n fail_v in_o this_o as_o in_o any_o other_o his_o most_o circumspect_a action_n what_o injustice_n i_o say_v can_v it_o be_v authoritative_o to_o direct_v this_o definition_n to_o those_o who_o be_v commit_v to_o his_o charge_n and_o expect_v their_o due_a submission_n to_o it_o mean_v by_o submission_n what_o i_o have_v here_o express_v to_o mean_v by_o it_o num._n 24_o so_o again_o it_o appear_v of_o the_o roman_a church_n how_o far_o it_o be_v from_o gentle_a or_o charitable_a in_o they_o to_o bind_v man_n to_o profess_v as_o matter_n of_o faith_n whatsoever_o be_v by_o that_o church_n define_v upon_o this_o one_o account_n that_o the_o church_n be_v infallible_a &_o can_v err_v when_o this_o very_a thing_n that_o it_o be_v infallible_a be_v not_o at_o all_o make_v probable_a much_o less_o infallible_o deduce_v from_o any_o reason_n or_o testimony_n that_o be_v infallible_a num._n 25_o next_o then_o when_o he_o say_v that_o the_o state_n of_o the_o question_n will_v be_v this_o whether_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v infallible_a or_o no_o i_o be_o not_o sure_a i_o know_v what_o question_n he_o mean_v whether_o the_o main_a question_n on_o which_o the_o tract_n of_o schism_n be_v write_v i._n e._n whether_o the_o church_n of_o england_n be_v schismatical_a or_o no_o or_o whether_o the_o particular_a question_n which_o this_o gentleman_n haste_n have_v frame_v to_o himself_o in_o this_o place_n whether_o a_o fallible_a church_n may_v have_v power_n to_o bind_v any_o to_o believe_v what_o she_o say_v but_o i_o suppose_v by_o some_o indication_n that_o the_o latter_a be_v it_o and_o then_o as_o from_o hence_o i_o learn_v what_o he_o mean_v by_o infallible_a a_o church_n that_o can_v possible_o err_v all_o who_o definition_n be_v such_o quibus_fw-la nequit_fw-la subesse_fw-la falsum_fw-la so_o until_o this_o be_v prove_v of_o that_o church_n i_o must_v be_v allow_v to_o speak_v like_o one_o who_o think_v not_o myself_o oblige_v to_o the_o belief_n of_o it_o and_o be_v sure_a of_o this_o that_o a_o protestant_n be_v or_o may_v be_v very_o persuade_v of_o some_o truth_n against_o which_o the_o roman_a church_n bind_v to_o profession_n of_o error_n mean_v by_o very_o persuade_v such_o a_o certainty_n only_o cui_fw-la non_fw-la subest_fw-la dubium_fw-la he_o have_v no_o doubt_n nor_o reason_n to_o induce_v doubt_v of_o it_o i_o can_v imagine_v how_o that_o part_n of_o my_o discourse_n wherein_o i_o have_v suppose_v or_o assert_v this_o can_v be_v either_o superfluous_a unnecessary_a or_o whatever_o other_o weakness_n it_o be_v guilty_a of_o contrary_a to_o myself_o for_o certain_o i_o that_o think_v i_o be_o fallible_a may_v yet_o very_o believe_v without_o all_o doubt_n the_o truth_n of_o many_o proposition_n which_o if_o i_o shall_v affirm_v myself_o not_o to_o believe_v i_o must_v doubtless_o lie_v and_o then_o sin_n by_o mr._n knot_n be_v former_a concession_n and_o it_o be_v as_o certain_a on_o the_o other_o side_n that_o he_o that_o pretend_v to_o have_v a_o infallible_a rule_n may_v yet_o foul_o mistake_v both_o in_o that_o general_a original_a and_o in_o many_o other_o particular_a derivative_a pretension_n his_o suppose_a infallibility_n if_o it_o be_v not_o right_o suppose_v and_o till_o it_o be_v prove_v it_o will_v not_o be_v so_o will_v be_v so_o far_o from_o a_o amulet_n to_o keep_v he_o safe_a from_o all_o error_n that_o it_o be_v the_o likely_a way_n to_o deliver_v he_o up_o to_o it_o as_o the_o premature_n persuasion_n of_o his_o particular_a election_n may_v be_v the_o ingulse_v any_o through_o security_n and_o presumption_n in_o the_o most_o certain_a ruin_n num._n 26_o in_o the_o process_n of_o this_o discourse_n he_o be_v please_v to_o mention_v four_o advantage_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n above_o any_o other_o antiquity_n possession_n persuasion_n of_o infallibility_n the_o pledge_n that_o christ_n have_v leave_v to_o his_o church_n for_o motive_n of_o union_n and_o nothing_o but_o uncertain_a reason_n on_o the_o other_o side_n which_o say_v he_o must_v make_v it_o impossible_a for_o any_o without_o interest_n or_o prejudice_n to_o leave_v the_o church_n if_o he_o be_v in_o it_o or_o not_o return_v if_o he_o be_v out_o of_o it_o num._n 27_o to_o this_o imaginary_a set_n of_o the_o scale_n between_o they_o and_o we_o and_o particular_o to_o the_o four_o advantage_n pretend_v to_o the_o pledge_n that_o christ_n leave_v for_o motive_n of_o union_n it_o be_v sufficient_a to_o reply_v in_o general_a that_o for_o we_o which_o have_v not_o voluntary_o separate_v but_o be_v by_o they_o violent_o remove_v from_o communion_n with_o they_o and_o can_v be_v admit_v to_o reunion_n but_o upon_o condition_n which_o without_o dissemble_v and_o lie_v we_o can_v undergo_v it_o be_v in_o vain_a to_o speak_v of_o motive_n or_o obligation_n to_o return_v to_o their_o communion_n we_o that_o be_v bind_v as_o much_o as_o in_o we_o lie_v to_o have_v peace_n with_o all_o man_n must_v not_o admit_v any_o know_v or_o wilful_a sin_n in_o order_n to_o that_o most_o desirable_a end_n and_o this_o one_o thing_n as_o alone_o it_o be_v pertinent_a to_o the_o matter_n in_o hand_n that_o of_o schism_n so_o it_o be_v necessary_o the_o conclude_v of_o this_o controversy_n we_o that_o be_v not_o permit_v to_o return_v and_o so_o we_o be_v if_o the_o condition_n of_o our_o return_n be_v so_o encumber_v as_o to_o include_v sin_n can_v with_o any_o justice_n or_o equity_n be_v charge_v for_o not_o return_v num._n 28_o against_o this_o here_o be_v nothing_o say_v any_o far_a than_o the_o bare_a mention_n of_o the_o three_o other_o advantage_n on_o their_o side_n and_o none_o of_o these_o be_v of_o any_o force_n to_o persuade_v our_o return_n upon_o such_o condition_n as_o these_o much_o less_o to_o exact_v it_o as_o duty_n from_o we_o num._n 29_o by_o antiquity_n and_o possession_n as_o here_o they_o be_v speak_v of_o i_o be_o apt_a to_o suppose_v he_o mean_v not_o antiquity_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n or_o the_o present_a doctrine_n and_o therefore_o i_o shall_v not_o speak_v of_o they_o but_o the_o antiquity_n of_o our_o communion_n with_o they_o if_o he_o mean_v a_o possession_n in_o the_o belief_n of_o the_o pope_n universal_a pastorship_n i_o shall_v have_v occasion_n to_o speak_v of_o that_o 1_o hereafter_o and_o if_o this_o be_v grant_v as_o for_o fraternal_a communion_n and_o such_o as_o be_v due_a from_o one_o sister_n church_n to_o another_o it_o be_v willing_o grant_v than_o this_o will_v divolve_v the_o blame_n on_o those_o who_o be_v guilty_a of_o this_o breach_n who_o have_v cast_v we_o out_o and_o permit_v we_o no_o way_n of_o return_v with_o a_o good_a conscience_n and_o so_o this_o be_v little_a for_o the_o romanist_n advantage_n num._n 30_o but_o if_o in_o stead_n of_o fraternal_a communion_n it_o be_v subjection_n to_o the_o roman_a see_v that_o be_v by_o his_o word_n claim_v and_o pretend_v to_o by_o possession_n then_o as_o we_o willing_o grant_v to_o that_o see_v all_o that_o the_o ancient_a canon_n allow_v to_o it_o and_o so_o can_v in_o that_o respect_n offend_v against_o antiquity_n so_o what_o contrary_a to_o those_o canon_n they_o have_v at_o any_o time_n assume_v and_o unlawful_o possess_v themselves_o of_o can_v no_o way_n be_v pretend_v to_o be_v their_o right_n or_o they_o to_o be_v bonae_fw-la fidei_fw-la possessores_fw-la true_a or_o fair_a possessor_n of_o it_o which_o qualification_n and_o condition_n be_v yet_o absolute_o necessary_a to_o found_v their_o plea_n from_o possession_n and_o which_o alone_o can_v bear_v any_o proportion_n with_o that_o which_o king_n can_v show_v for_o their_o crown_n or_o proprietary_n for_o their_o inheritance_n num._n 31_o of_o this_o head_n of_o possession_n or_o prescription_n it_o be_v easy_a to_o add_v much_o more_o by_o consider_v that_o claim_n and_o title_n by_o the_o know_a rule_n whether_o of_o the_o canon_n or_o civil_a law_n the_o civil_a law_n which_o be_v general_o more_o favourable_a to_o prescription_n do_v yet_o acknowledge_v many_o way_n of_o interrupt_v it_o as_o by_o call_v it_o into_o question_n and_o that_o be_v sufficient_o do_v in_o some_o case_n per_fw-la solam_fw-la conventionem_fw-la by_o cite_v or_o summon_v the_o possessor_n and_o when_o contestatio_fw-la litis_fw-la the_o enter_v a_o suit_n be_v actual_o require_v yet_o still_o he_o that_o appear_v to_o have_v cause_v the_o impediment_n and_o keep_v it_o
be_v deceive_v and_o there_o i_o acknowledge_v infallibility_n upon_o this_o ground_n whether_o of_o nature_n or_o of_o grace_n of_o common_a dictate_v or_o of_o religion_n that_o it_o be_v impossible_a for_o god_n to_o lie_v to_o deceive_v or_o to_o be_v deceive_v but_o that_o the_o whole_a canon_n of_o scripture_n as_o it_o be_v deliver_v to_o we_o by_o the_o laodicean_n council_n be_v the_o word_n of_o god_n though_o i_o full_o believe_v this_o also_o and_o have_v not_o the_o least_o doubt_n to_o any_o part_n of_o it_o yet_o i_o account_v not_o myself_o infallible_a in_o this_o belief_n nor_o can_v any_o church_n that_o affirm_v the_o same_o unless_o they_o be_v otherwise_o privilege_v by_o god_n be_v infallible_a in_o affirm_v it_o nor_o any_o that_o believe_v that_o church_n be_v infallible_a in_o their_o belief_n and_o as_o that_o privilege_n be_v not_o yet_o prove_v by_o any_o donation_n of_o god_n to_o belong_v to_o any_o church_n particular_o to_o the_o roman_a so_o till_o it_o be_v prove_v and_o prove_v infallible_o it_o can_v be_v no_o competent_a medium_n to_o induce_v any_o new_a act_n of_o infallible_a belief_n the_o want_n of_o which_o may_v denominate_v we_o either_o heretic_n or_o schismatics_n num._n 40_o in_o the_o mean_a time_n this_o be_v certain_a that_o i_o that_o do_v not_o pretend_v to_o believe_v any_o thing_n infallible_o in_o this_o matter_n not_o so_o much_o as_o that_o the_o church_n be_v not_o infallible_a must_v yet_o be_v acknowledge_v to_o believe_v her_o fallible_a or_o else_o i_o can_v not_o by_o this_o gentleman_n be_v adjudge_v a_o schismatic_a for_o so_o believe_v and_o then_o this_o suppose_v that_o i_o may_v believe_v what_o in_o his_o opinion_n i_o believe_v untrue_o that_o sure_o be_v that_o i_o may_v believe_v what_o i_o do_v not_o believe_v infallible_o the_o matter_n be_v visible_a i_o can_v think_v fit_a to_o enlarge_v on_o it_o num._n 41_o one_o thing_n only_o i_o must_v far_o take_v notice_n of_o the_o ground_n which_o he_o here_o have_v on_o which_o he_o find_v his_o exception_n against_o the_o solidity_n of_o my_o discourse_n call_v it_o my_o great_a evidence_n that_o we_o that_o do_v not_o acknowledge_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n to_o be_v infallible_a may_v be_v allow_v to_o make_v certain_a supposition_n that_o follow_v there_o num._n 42_o the_o matter_n in_o that_o place_n chap._n ii_o sect._n 12._o lie_n thus_o in_o examine_v the_o nature_n of_o schism_n i_o have_v occasion_n to_o mention_v one_o not_o real_a but_o fiction_n of_o case_n suppose_v first_o that_o our_o ancestor_n have_v criminous_o separate_v from_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n and_o suppose_v second_o that_o we_o their_o posterity_n repent_v and_o desire_v to_o reform_v their_o sin_n and_o to_o be_v reunite_v to_o they_o yet_o suppose_v three_o that_o they_o shall_v require_v to_o our_o reunion_n any_o condition_n which_o be_v unlawful_a for_o we_o to_o perform_v in_o this_o conjuncture_n i_o say_v we_o can_v not_o just_o be_v charge_v for_o continue_v that_o separation_n num._n 43_o this_o fiction_n of_o case_n i_o can_v not_o think_v have_v any_o weak_a part_n in_o it_o for_o as_o it_o suppose_v that_o on_o one_o side_n which_o i_o know_v a_o romanist_n will_v not_o grant_v viz_o that_o they_o shall_v require_v any_o condition_n unlawful_a for_o we_o to_o perform_v so_o it_o suppose_v on_o the_o other_o side_n that_o which_o we_o can_v no_o way_n grant_v viz_o that_o our_o ancestor_n criminous_o separate_v but_o this_o i_o know_v be_v ordinary_a to_o be_v do_v in_o fiction_n of_o case_n suppositio_fw-la non_fw-la ponit_fw-la be_v the_o acknowledge_a rule_n my_o suppose_v either_o of_o these_o be_v not_o the_o take_v they_o for_o grant_v and_o yet_o after_o all_o this_o i_o foresee_v that_o objection_n that_o the_o romanist_n who_o acknowledge_v not_o any_o such_o hard_a condition_n require_v to_o our_o reconciliation_n will_v conceive_v this_o a_o impossible_a case_n and_o to_o this_o i_o answer_v that_o we_o that_o acknowledge_v not_o their_o church_n to_o be_v infallible_a may_v be_v allow_v to_o make_v a_o supposition_n mean_v as_o before_o a_o fiction_n of_o case_n which_o be_v found_v in_o the_o possibility_n of_o her_o insert_v some_o error_n in_o her_o confession_n and_o make_v the_o acknowledgement_n of_o it_o the_o indispensable_a condition_n of_o her_o communion_n what_o i_o have_v offend_v herein_o i_o can_v imagine_v for_o 1._o i_o only_o set_v a_o fiction_n of_o case_n do_v not_o take_v their_o infallibility_n for_o a_o thing_n confest_o false_a nor_o in_o that_o place_n so_o much_o as_o dispute_v against_o it_o only_o i_o say_v that_o which_o be_v sufficient_o know_v before_o i_o say_v it_o that_o their_o infallibility_n be_v not_o acknowledge_v by_o we_o and_o so_o that_o her_o insert_v some_o error_n in_o her_o confession_n be_v to_o we_o i_o e._n in_o our_o opinion_n a_o thing_n possible_a and_o so_o for_o disputation_n sake_n supposable_a in_o the_o same_o manner_n as_o i_o suppose_v that_o which_o i_o be_o know_v not_o to_o believe_v and_o if_o this_o gentleman_n be_v thus_o severe_a i_o shall_v despair_v to_o approve_v my_o discourse_n to_o he_o num._n 44_o second_o that_o i_o make_v it_o my_o great_a evidence_n be_v not_o with_o any_o appearance_n of_o reason_n suggest_v by_o he_o it_o come_v in_o mere_o as_o a_o incidentall_a last_o branch_n the_o least_o necessary_a most_o unconsiderable_a of_o any_o and_o that_o which_o may_v have_v be_v spare_v then_o or_o leave_v out_o now_o without_o any_o weaken_n of_o or_o disturb_v the_o discourse_n num._n 45_o three_o whereas_o he_o add_v that_o i_o proceed_v to_o make_v certain_a supposition_n that_o follow_v there_o this_o be_v still_o of_o the_o same_o strain_n i_o make_v but_o one_o supposition_n viz_o in_o case_n she_o make_v any_o unlawful_a act_n the_o indispensable_a condition_n of_o her_o communion_n and_o that_o one_o certain_o be_v not_o in_o the_o plural_a more_o or_o indefinite_o certain_a supposition_n num._n 46_o that_o i_o put_v this_o one_o case_n as_o possible_a and_o then_o proceed_v to_o consider_v what_o be_v by_o the_o principle_n acknowledge_v by_o all_o particular_o by_o mr._n knot_n to_o be_v do_v in_o that_o one_o case_n be_v agreeable_a to_o the_o strict_a law_n of_o discourse_n which_o i_o have_v meet_v with_o and_o if_o in_o compliance_n with_o this_o gentleman_n i_o must_v deny_v myself_o such_o liberty_n and_o yet_o yield_v he_o so_o much_o great_a on_o the_o other_o side_n if_o i_o must_v at_o the_o begin_n of_o a_o defence_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n be_v require_v to_o grant_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n infallible_a i._n e._n to_o yield_v not_o only_o that_o she_o speak_v all_o truth_n but_o also_o that_o it_o be_v impossible_a she_o shall_v speak_v any_o thing_n but_o truth_n who_o yet_o by_o enter_v on_o this_o theme_n i_o undertake_v to_o contradict_v and_o to_o prove_v injurious_a in_o censure_v we_o for_o schismatic_n this_o be_v as_o i_o have_v say_v a_o hard_a task_n indeed_o the_o very_a same_o as_o if_o i_o be_v require_v to_o begin_v a_o duel_n by_o present_v and_o deliver_v up_o all_o weapon_n into_o the_o enemy_n hand_n to_o plead_v a_o cause_n and_o introduce_v my_o defence_n by_o confess_v myself_o guilty_a of_o all_o that_o the_o plaintiff_n do_v or_o can_v have_v the_o confidence_n to_o charge_v upon_o i_o num._n 47_o and_o if_o these_o be_v the_o condition_n of_o a_o dispute_n these_o will_v questionless_a be_v hard_a whatsoever_o the_o condition_n of_o our_o reunion_n be_v conceive_v to_o be_v and_o moreover_o this_o gentleman_n will_v be_v as_o infallible_a as_o his_o church_n and_o then_o it_o be_v pity_n he_o shall_v lavish_a out_o medicine_n that_o be_v so_o secure_v by_o charm_n that_o he_o shall_v defend_v his_o cause_n by_o reason_n which_o have_v this_o one_o so_o much_o cheap_a expedient_a to_o answer_v a_o whole_a book_n in_o one_o period_n num._n 48_o and_o so_o much_o for_o his_o animadversion_n on_o this_o second_o chapter_n which_o be_v no_o excellent_a presage_n of_o that_o which_o we_o be_v to_o expect_v in_o the_o ensue_a chap._n iii_o exception_n to_o the_o three_o chapter_n answer_v sect._n i._n the_o division_n of_o schism_n justify_v of_o schism_n against_o the_o authority_n of_o counsel_n of_o unanimity_n of_o belief_n in_o the_o dispersion_n of_o the_o church_n num._n 1_o the_o exception_n against_o the_o three_o chap_n be_v reducible_a to_o 4_o head_n the_o first_o about_o the_o insufficiency_n of_o the_o division_n of_o schism_n in_o these_o word_n num._n 2_o in_o his_o three_o chapter_n what_o be_v chief_o to_o be_v note_v to_o our_o purpose_n be_v that_o his_o division_n be_v insufficient_a for_o he_o make_v schism_n to_o be_v only_o against_o monarchical_a power_n or_o against_o fraternal_a
charity_n which_o be_v very_o much_o beside_o the_o principle_n of_o those_o protestant_n who_o pretend_v so_o much_o to_o the_o authority_n of_o counsel_n i_o think_v he_o shall_v have_v remember_v there_o may_v be_v schism_n against_o conciliatory_a authority_n whether_o this_o be_v call_v so_o when_o the_o council_n actual_o sit_v or_o in_o the_o unanimity_n of_o belief_n in_o the_o dispersion_n of_o the_o church_n so_o that_o the_o doctor_n suppose_v he_o conclude_v against_o the_o pope_n have_v not_o conclude_v himself_o no_o schismatic_n be_v separate_v form_n the_o catholic_n world_n and_o again_o in_o the_o next_o page_n by_o way_n of_o recollection_n or_o second_o thought_n thus_o but_o i_o must_v not_o forget_v here_o what_o i_o omit_v to_o insert_v before_o that_o in_o his_o division_n of_o schism_n he_o omit_v the_o principal_a if_o not_o indeed_o and_o in_o the_o use_n of_o the_o word_n by_o the_o ancient_n the_o only_a schism_n which_o be_v when_o one_o break_v from_o the_o whole_a church_n of_o god_n for_o though_o a_o breach_n make_v from_o the_o immediate_a superior_a or_o a_o particular_a church_n may_v in_o some_o sort_n and_o in_o our_o ordinary_a manner_n of_o speak_v be_v call_v a_o schism_n yet_o that_o by_o which_o one_o break_v away_o from_o the_o communion_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n be_v proper_o and_o in_o a_o high_a sense_n call_v schism_n and_o be_v that_o out_o of_o which_o the_o present_a question_n proceed_v whereas_o other_o division_n as_o long_o as_o both_o part_n remain_v in_o communion_n with_o the_o universal_a church_n be_v not_o proper_o schism_n but_o with_o a_o diminutive_a particle_n so_o that_o in_o this_o division_n he_o leave_v out_o that_o part_n which_o appertain_v to_o the_o question_n num._n 3_o my_o division_n of_o schism_n be_v that_o which_o i_o can_v not_o conceive_v subject_a to_o the_o exception_n of_o any_o rational_a man_n of_o what_o persuasion_n soever_o schism_n be_v a_o breach_n of_o unity_n and_o communion_n as_o many_o sort_n as_o be_v conceivable_a of_o unity_n and_o communion_n so_o many_o and_o no_o more_o i_o set_v down_o of_o schism_n some_o as_o breach_n of_o the_o subordination_n which_o christ_n settle_v in_o his_o church_n other_o of_o mutual_a charity_n which_o he_o leave_v among_o his_o disciple_n num._n 4_o for_o be_v it_o not_o evident_a that_o all_o man_n in_o the_o world_n be_v either_o our_o superior_n or_o inferior_n or_o our_o equal_n and_o can_v i_o break_v communion_n with_o any_o as_o long_o as_o be_v a_o inferior_a i_o live_v regular_o under_o all_o my_o superior_n and_o brotherly_a with_o all_o my_o equal_n there_o be_v certain_o no_o place_n of_o doubt_n in_o this_o when_o therefore_o in_o his_o second_o period_n here_o set_v down_o he_o mention_n it_o as_o the_o principal_a and_o in_o the_o ancient_n use_v of_o the_o word_n the_o only_a schism_n when_o one_o break_v from_o the_o whole_a church_n of_o god_n it_o be_v strange_a he_o shall_v think_v that_o man_n be_v not_o comprise_v in_o either_o member_n of_o my_o division_n when_o certain_o he_o be_v guilty_a of_o both_o for_o how_o can_v he_o separate_v from_o the_o whole_a church_n unless_o he_o separate_v both_o from_o his_o superior_n and_o his_o equal_n too_o and_o if_o he_o separate_v from_o both_o then_o questionless_a he_o separate_v from_o one_o and_o from_o more_o than_o one_o of_o they_o num._n 5_o be_v it_o possible_a for_o any_o care_n more_o sollicitous_o to_o have_v prevent_v this_o exception_n than_o that_o which_o by_o i_o be_v use_v when_o among_o the_o branch_n of_o equality_n with_o which_o every_o one_o be_v oblige_v to_o preserve_v unity_n and_o communion_n i_o reckon_v up_o not_o only_o the_o believer_n of_o the_o same_o congregation_n etc._n etc._n but_o the_o several_a community_n of_o christian_a man_n from_o parish_n and_o diocese_n to_o clime_n of_o the_o whole_a christian_a world_n chap._n 3._o §_o 5._o and_o indeed_o it_o be_v a_o great_a piece_n of_o austerity_n that_o when_o i_o have_v endeavour_v to_o prove_v that_o we_o of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n have_v not_o voluntary_o separate_v and_o that_o only_o be_v the_o crime_n of_o schism_n from_o any_o one_o particular_a church_n and_o no_o one_o of_o those_o proof_n be_v invalidate_v nor_o as_o yet_o so_o much_o as_o except_v against_o it_o shall_v yet_o be_v think_v seasonable_a to_o reply_v that_o we_o have_v break_v off_o from_o the_o whole_a church_n of_o god_n num._n 6_o be_v not_o that_o whole_a make_v up_o of_o these_o several_n as_o a_o body_n of_o limb_n the_o universal_a of_o particular_n and_o can_v the_o hand_n be_v break_v off_o from_o the_o whole_a body_n when_o it_o be_v not_o break_v off_o but_o remain_v in_o perfect_a union_n with_o every_o part_n of_o the_o body_n if_o the_o arm_n be_v break_v from_o the_o body_n the_o hand_n which_o remain_v unite_v to_o the_o arm_n may_v yet_o be_v separate_a from_o the_o whole_a body_n because_o by_o be_v fasten_v to_o the_o arm_n it_o be_v unite_v but_o to_o one_o and_o not_o to_o all_o the_o member_n of_o the_o body_n but_o a_o union_n to_o all_o the_o member_n of_o the_o body_n suppose_v a_o separation_n from_o no_o one_o part_n that_o remain_v in_o the_o body_n and_o sure_a that_o must_v be_v a_o union_n with_o the_o whole_a body_n which_o be_v nothing_o else_o but_o all_o the_o member_n together_o num._n 7_o and_o so_o as_o his_o second_o thought_n be_v effect_n not_o remedy_n of_o his_o forgetfulness_n the_o very_a same_o which_o he_o have_v mention_v before_o under_o the_o style_n of_o separation_n from_o the_o catholic_n world_n so_o certain_o they_o be_v again_o effect_n of_o his_o inobservance_n that_o his_o principal_a sort_n of_o schism_n separation_n from_o the_o whole_a church_n be_v comprehend_v by_o i_o under_o this_o style_n separation_n from_o the_o several_a community_n of_o the_o whole_a christian_a world_n num._n 8_o as_o to_o the_o former_a branch_n of_o his_o exception_n that_o in_o my_o division_n of_o schism_n into_o that_o which_o be_v against_o monarchical_a i_o say_v and_o when_o he_o recite_v my_o word_n he_o shall_v do_v so_o too_o paternal_a power_n and_o that_o which_o be_v against_o fraternal_a charity_n i_o omit_v to_o mention_v the_o authority_n of_o counsel_n it_o be_v evident_o a_o causeless_a suggestion_n for_o 1._o if_o counsel_n as_o he_o say_v have_v any_o authority_n that_o will_v certain_o be_v reducible_a to_o paternal_a power_n and_o if_o they_o have_v none_o any_o far_a than_o by_o way_n of_o counsel_n and_o advice_n that_o will_v direct_o fall_v under_o the_o head_n of_o fraternal_a charity_n num._n 9_o second_o if_o by_o counsel_n he_o mean_v provincial_n counsel_n it_o be_v evident_a that_o the_o power_n which_o several_o belong_v to_o the_o bishop_n of_o each_o province_n be_v unite_v in_o that_o of_o a_o provincial_n council_n where_o all_o the_o diocesan_n bishop_n be_v assemble_v and_o the_o despise_n of_o that_o be_v a_o offence_n under_o the_o first_o sort_n of_o schism_n a_o breach_n of_o the_o subordination_n to_o the_o bishop_n yea_o and_o the_o metropolitan_a too_o who_o preside_v in_o the_o provincial_n council_n num._n 10_o so_o again_o if_o he_o mean_v national_n counsel_n the_o power_n of_o the_o bishop_n of_o all_o the_o province_n there_o assemble_v divolve_v upon_o this_o assembly_n compound_v of_o all_o of_o they_o the_o despise_v thereof_o be_v the_o despise_n of_o these_o ecclesiastical_a superior_n of_o the_o whole_a nation_n and_o culpable_a and_o schismatical_a upon_o that_o account_n num._n 11_o as_o for_o ecumenical_a or_o general_n counsel_n if_o they_o be_v true_o such_o the_o power_n of_o all_o the_o bishop_n of_o all_o the_o province_n in_o all_o christian_a nation_n divolve_v upon_o that_o and_o so_o can_v be_v despise_v without_o despise_v of_o all_o rank_n of_o our_o ecclesiastical_a superior_n bishop_n metropolitan_o primate_fw-la or_o patriarch_n and_o therefore_o this_o sort_n of_o schism_n can_v not_o be_v deem_v to_o be_v omit_v where_o all_o those_o other_o branch_n of_o which_o it_o be_v make_v up_o be_v so_o particular_o handle_v num._n 12_o that_o any_o more_o special_a consideration_n be_v not_o take_v of_o general_n counsel_n in_o that_o discourse_n the_o account_n beside_o that_o which_o be_v now_o give_v be_v more_o than_o intimate_v in_o that_o tract_n of_o schism_n pag._n 60._o first_o because_o they_o be_v remedy_n of_o schism_n and_o extraordinary_a not_o any_o stand_a judicature_n to_o which_o our_o constant_a subordination_n and_o subjection_n be_v require_v 2._o because_o these_o be_v such_o as_o without_o which_o the_o church_n continue_v for_o the_o first_o 300_o year_n and_o so_o can_v not_o belong_v to_o a_o general_a discourse_n which_o speak_v of_o all_o the_o certain_a and_o ordinary_a and_o constant_a sort_n
of_o schism_n and_o such_o as_o all_o time_n be_v capable_a of_o and_o enlarge_v not_o to_o those_o other_o of_o accidental_a emergency_n 3._o because_o they_o be_v now_o moral_o impossible_a to_o be_v have_v the_o christian_a world_n be_v under_o so_o many_o empire_n and_o divide_v into_o so_o many_o communion_n that_o it_o be_v not_o visible_a to_o the_o eye_n of_o man_n how_o they_o shall_v be_v regular_o assemble_v num._n 13_o as_o for_o those_o that_o be_v already_o past_a and_o be_v on_o due_a ground_n to_o be_v acknowledge_v true_o ecumenical_a the_o communion_n which_o be_v possible_a to_o be_v have_v or_o break_v with_o they_o be_v that_o of_o compliance_n with_o or_o recession_n from_o their_o definition_n and_o our_o innocence_n in_o that_o respect_n be_v avow_v p._n 160._o as_o the_o congregate_a of_o the_o like_a when_o possible_a and_o probable_a towards_o the_o end_n be_v recommend_v p._n 158._o as_o a_o supply_n when_o there_o shall_v be_v need_n of_o extraordinary_a remedy_n num._n 14_o last_o if_o none_o of_o this_o have_v be_v do_v or_o if_o this_o have_v not_o be_v undertake_v so_o solemn_o and_o formal_o as_o some_o other_o suppose_a branch_n of_o schism_n be_v in_o that_o tract_n yet_o the_o account_n of_o that_o be_v visible_a to_o any_o because_o the_o principal_a sort_n of_o schism_n charge_v by_o the_o romanist_n on_o the_o church_n of_o england_n be_v that_o of_o cast_v out_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n not_o contemn_v the_o authority_n of_o counsel_n and_o therefore_o i_o be_v in_o reason_n to_o apply_v my_o discourse_n most_o large_o and_o particular_o to_o that_o head_n to_o which_o their_o objection_n not_o my_o own_o choice_n direct_v i_o so_o evident_o contrary_a to_o the_o notoriety_n of_o the_o fact_n be_v this_o complaint_n of_o this_o gentleman_n that_o my_o division_n of_o schism_n be_v insufficient_a and_o that_o i_o take_v no_o notice_n of_o this_o as_o he_o please_v to_o call_v it_o conciliatory_a authority_n num._n 15_o that_o to_o make_v his_o suggestion_n seem_v more_o probable_a he_o advise_o choose_v to_o change_n the_o term_n of_o my_o division_n from_o that_o which_o be_v against_o paternal_a to_o that_o which_o be_v against_o monarchical_a power_n upon_o this_o apprehension_n that_o paternal_a power_n will_v visible_o include_v that_o of_o the_o father_n in_o council_n assemble_v as_o well_o as_o in_o several_a but_o monarchical_a power_n can_v not_o so_o fit_o bear_v it_o i_o shall_v not_o enter_v into_o his_o secret_n to_o divine_a this_o i_o be_o sure_a of_o that_o the_o unanimity_n of_o belief_n in_o the_o dispersion_n of_o the_o church_n can_v with_o any_o propriety_n as_o by_o he_o it_o be_v be_v define_v a_o branch_n of_o conciliatory_a authority_n for_o certain_o the_o church_n disperse_v be_v not_o meet_v together_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o dispersion_n of_o the_o jew_n differ_v much_o from_o the_o council_n assemble_v at_o jerusalem_n and_o the_o christian_a church_n at_o this_o day_n be_v without_o question_n no_o ecumenical_a council_n num._n 16_o and_o then_o what_o authority_n scatter_v member_n can_v have_v which_o never_o legal_o command_v or_o exercise_v authority_n but_o when_o they_o be_v in_o conjunction_n i_o shall_v not_o here_o make_v stay_v to_o demonstrate_v whatsoever_o there_o be_v of_o this_o nature_n will_v most_o proper_o be_v comprise_v under_o the_o head_n of_o communion_n or_o unity_n fraternal_a and_o the_o schism_n which_o be_v a_o transgression_n of_o that_o be_v at_o large_a handle_v also_o chap._n 8._o 9_o 10._o there_o be_v no_o insufficiency_n in_o any_o justice_n to_o be_v charge_v on_o this_o division_n sect._n ii_o of_o the_o extent_n of_o the_o roman_a province_n the_o bishop_n of_o italy_n distinct_a from_o those_o that_o belong_v to_o rome_n the_o ecclesiastical_a distribution_n agreeable_a with_o the_o civil_a ruffinus_n vindicate_v num._n 1_o the_o second_o charge_n on_o this_o chapter_n be_v about_o the_o extent_n of_o the_o roman_a patriarchie_n in_o these_o word_n num._n 2_o in_o this_o chap_n he_o tell_v we_o many_o thing_n some_o true_a some_o not_o so_o but_o all_o either_o common_a to_o we_o both_o or_o not_o appertain_v to_o the_o controversy_n until_o he_o conclude_v that_o certain_o the_o roman_a patriarchie_n do_v not_o extend_v itself_o to_o all_o italy_n and_o this_o he_o do_v out_o of_o a_o word_n in_o ruffinus_n which_o he_o suppose_v to_o be_v take_v in_o a_o special_a propriety_n of_o law_n whereas_o indeed_o that_o author_n knowledge_n in_o grammar_n be_v not_o such_o as_o shall_v necessary_o exact_v any_o such_o belief_n especial_o learned_a man_n say_v the_o contrary_a num._n 3_o the_o place_n to_o which_o this_o exception_n belong_v be_v not_o set_v down_o by_o this_o gentleman_n but_o by_o annex_v the_o testimony_n out_o of_o ruffinus_n i_o discern_v it_o to_o be_v that_o of_o pag._n 52._o where_o speak_v of_o the_o picenum_n suburbicarium_fw-la and_o annonarium_fw-la i_o say_v the_o former_a belong_v to_o the_o praefecture_n of_o rome_n the_o latter_a with_o the_o seven_o province_n in_o the_o broad_a part_n of_o italy_n belong_v to_o the_o diocese_n as_o it_o be_v ancient_o call_v of_o italy_n of_o which_o milan_n be_v the_o metropolis_n num._n 4_o this_o be_v the_o affirmation_n which_o he_o except_v against_o i_o do_v not_o nor_o yet_o do_v make_v any_o question_n of_o vindicate_v and_o defend_v it_o against_o any_o objection_n num._n 5_o that_o learned_a man_n say_v the_o contrary_a be_v here_o suggest_v in_o the_o close_a but_o as_o there_o be_v not_o one_o learned_a man_n name_v nor_o testimony_n produce_v which_o therefore_o amount_v no_o high_a than_o the_o bare_a opinion_n or_o affirmation_n of_o this_o one_o gentleman_n without_o any_o one_o reason_n or_o authority_n to_o support_v it_o so_o when_o any_o such_o learned_a man_n name_n and_o testimony_n shall_v be_v produce_v it_o will_v be_v easy_a to_o show_v that_o there_o be_v very_o little_a of_o their_o learning_n express_v in_o so_o say_v num._n 6_o on_o the_o other_o side_n i_o have_v pag._n 50._o in_o the_o margin_n refer_v to_o some_o testimony_n whereon_o my_o assertion_n be_v found_v viz_o those_o which_o manifest_o distinguish_v the_o province_n of_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n from_o the_o province_n of_o italy_n which_o can_v not_o have_v have_v truth_n in_o they_o if_o the_o province_n of_o the_o patriarch_n of_o rome_n extend_v to_o all_o italy_n num._n 7_o such_o be_v that_o of_o 〈◊〉_d eusebius_n distinct_o mention_v the_o bishop_n of_o the_o city_n of_o italy_n and_o the_o bishop_n that_o belong_v to_o the_o city_n of_o the_o roman_n the_o testimony_n out_o of_o the_o edict_n of_o the_o emperor_n aurelian_a in_o the_o controversy_n betwixt_o paulus_n samosatenus_fw-la and_o domnus_n where_o it_o be_v decree_v that_o the_o house_n about_o which_o they_o contend_v shall_v be_v deliver_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o those_o to_o who_o the_o bishop_n through_o italy_n and_o the_o city_n of_o the_o roman_n shall_v decree_v it_o num._n 8_o the_o like_a be_v that_o of_o the_o council_n of_o sardice_n set_v down_o in_o 756._o athanasius_n in_o the_o title_n of_o their_o epistle_n to_o the_o alexandrian_n thus_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n the_o holy_a synod_n by_o god_n grace_n assemble_v at_o sardice_n from_o rome_n and_o spain_n france_n italy_n etc._n etc._n num._n 9_o so_o in_o c._n athanasius_n declaration_n of_o his_o own_o affair_n and_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d agreement_n of_o many_o bishop_n with_o he_o he_o specify_v who_o and_o how_o many_o they_o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n there_o be_v more_o than_o four_o hundred_o both_o from_o great_a rome_n and_o from_o all_o italy_n and_o from_o calabria_n etc._n etc._n where_o the_o bishop_n of_o the_o roman_a province_n be_v distinguish_v from_o the_o bishop_n of_o italy_n as_o those_o again_o from_o the_o bishop_n of_o calabria_n etc._n etc._n num._n 10_o so_o among_o the_o name_n prefix_v to_o the_o 266._o first_o council_n of_o arles_n we_o have_v ex_fw-la provinciâ_fw-la italiae_fw-la civitate_fw-la mediclanensi_fw-la etc._n etc._n ex_fw-la urbe_fw-la româ_fw-la quos_fw-la sylvester_n episcopus_fw-la misit_fw-la ex_fw-la provinciâ_fw-la romanâ_fw-la civitate_fw-la portuensi_fw-la etc._n etc._n of_o the_o province_n of_o italy_n from_o the_o city_n of_o milan_n etc._n etc._n from_o the_o city_n of_o rome_n those_o who_o bishop_n sylvester_n send_v of_o the_o province_n of_o rome_n from_o the_o city_n of_o porta_n etc._n etc._n such_o and_o such_o be_v assemble_v at_o that_o council_n where_o again_o the_o matter_n be_v clear_a as_o to_o the_o distinction_n of_o those_o province_n of_o rome_n and_o italy_n the_o former_a under_o the_o presidency_n of_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n the_o late_a of_o the_o bishop_n of_o milan_n num._n 11_o by_o
the_o future_a you_o will_v not_o easy_o admit_v those_o who_o have_v come_v to_o you_o from_o hence_o and_o that_o you_o will_v not_o receive_v to_o your_o communion_n those_o who_o be_v excommunicate_a by_o we_o see_v the_o council_n of_o nice_a have_v thus_o define_v as_o you_o may_v easy_o discern_v num._n 8_o by_o all_o which_o put_v together_o by_o the_o african_a out_o of_o the_o nicene_n and_o by_o the_o nicene_n out_o of_o the_o apostolic_a canon_n it_o be_v evident_a that_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n have_v not_o power_n to_o absolve_v any_o person_n excommunicate_a by_o any_o bishop_n of_o another_o province_n and_o that_o it_o be_v unlawful_a for_o any_o such_o to_o make_v appeal_n to_o he_o which_o certain_o will_v conclude_v against_o every_o the_o most_o inferior_a branch_n of_o his_o pretend_a authority_n over_o the_o universal_a church_n num._n 9_o if_o this_o be_v not_o enough_o then_o add_v the_o 34_o apostolic_a canon_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o bishop_n of_o every_o nation_n must_v know_v he_o that_o be_v the_o first_o among_o they_o i._n e._n their_o primate_n and_o account_v he_o as_o their_o head_n which_o sure_o infer_v that_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n be_v not_o the_o one_o only_a head_n of_o all_o bishop_n the_o same_o be_v afterward_o transcribe_v by_o the_o 9_o canon_n of_o antioch_n num._n 10_o but_o to_o return_v to_o their_o corpus_fw-la juris_fw-la so_o again_o decret_a par_fw-fr 1._o do_v 99_o c._n 4._o nec_fw-la etiam_fw-la romanus_n pontifex_fw-la universalis_fw-la est_fw-la appellandus_fw-la the_o pope_n of_o rome_n be_v not_o to_o be_v call_v universal_a bishop_n cite_v the_o epistle_n of_o pope_n pelagius_n ii_o nullus_fw-la patriarcharum_fw-la vniversalitatis_fw-la vocabulo_fw-la unquam_fw-la utatur_fw-la quia_fw-la si_fw-la unus_fw-la patriarcha_fw-la unversalis_fw-la dicatur_fw-la patriarcharum_fw-la nomen_fw-la caeteris_fw-la derogatur_fw-la no_o patriarch_n must_v ever_o use_v the_o title_n of_o universal_a for_o if_o one_o be_v call_v universal_a patriarch_n the_o name_n of_o patriarch_n be_v take_v from_o all_o the_o rest_n and_o more_o to_o the_o same_o purpose_n the_o very_a thing_n that_o i_o be_v here_o to_o prove_v num._n 11_o so_o again_o ch._n 5._o out_o of_o the_o epistle_n of_o pope_n gregory_n to_o eulogius_n patriarch_n of_o alexandria_n where_o refuse_v the_o title_n of_o vniversalis_fw-la papa_n universal_a pope_n or_o father_n or_o patriarch_n and_o call_v it_o superbae_fw-la appellaetionis_fw-la verbum_fw-la a_o proud_a title_n he_o add_v si_fw-la enim_fw-la vniversalem_fw-la i_o papam_fw-la vestra_fw-la sanctit_fw-la as_o dicit_fw-la negat_fw-la se_fw-la hoc_fw-la esse_fw-la quod_fw-la i_o fatetur_fw-la vniversum_fw-la if_o the_o patriarch_n of_o alexandria_n call_v the_o pope_n universal_a father_n he_o do_v thereby_o deny_v himself_o to_o be_v that_o which_o he_o affirm_v the_o pope_n to_o be_v universal_o the_o meaning_n be_v clear_a if_o the_o pope_n be_v universal_a patriarch_n then_o be_v he_o patriarch_n of_o egypt_n for_o sure_a that_o be_v a_o part_n of_o the_o universe_n and_o then_o as_o there_o can_v be_v two_o supremes_n so_o the_o bishop_n of_o alexandria_n can_v be_v patriarch_n of_o egypt_n which_o yet_o from_o s._n mark_n be_v time_n be_v general_o resolve_v to_o belong_v to_o he_o and_o the_o word_n of_o the_o nicene_n canon_n be_v express_v to_o it_o that_o according_a to_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d original_n primitive_a custom_n the_o bishop_n of_o alexandria_n shall_v have_v power_n over_o all_o egypt_n lybia_n and_o pentapolis_n add_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n see_v this_o be_v also_o customary_a with_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n of_o antioch_n etc._n etc._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o the_o privilege_n shall_v be_v preserve_v to_o the_o church_n num._n 12_o all_o which_o argue_v of_o that_o pope_n yea_o and_o that_o great_a council_n be_v perfect_o unconcluding_a inconsequent_a as_o i_o be_v say_v to_o be_v if_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n or_o any_o other_o have_v power_n over_o patriarch_n or_o authority_n over_o the_o universal_a church_n which_o here_o this_o gentleman_n be_v please_v to_o affirm_v and_o so_o sure_o must_v think_v gregory_n more_o than_o fallible_a when_o he_o thus_o protest_v and_o dispute_v the_o contrary_a num._n 13_o how_o much_o high_a than_o this_o the_o same_o gregory_n ascend_v in_o express_v his_o detestation_n of_o that_o title_n be_v sufficient_o know_v from_o his_o epistle_n to_o mauritius_n the_o emperor_n in_o regist_n 1._o 4._o ep_n 30._o i_o shall_v not_o here_o trouble_v he_o with_o the_o recitation_n of_o it_o num._n 14_o what_o be_v after_o these_o passage_n set_v down_o in_o their_o body_n of_o the_o law_n show_v indeed_o that_o the_o pope_n continue_v not_o always_o of_o this_o mind_n neither_o be_v i_o of_o opinion_n that_o they_o do_v the_o story_n be_v know_v to_o all_o how_o boniface_n iii_o with_o much_o ado_n obtain_v of_o phocas_n the_o emperor_n a_o edict_n for_o the_o primacy_n and_o universal_a jurisdiction_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n see_v paul_n diac_n de_fw-fr gest_n be_v romanorum_fw-la l._n 18._o which_o yet_o be_v a_o argument_n that_o till_o than_o it_o have_v no_o foundation_n num._n 15_o whether_o there_o be_v ancient_o any_o such_o high_a than_o patriarch_n and_o whether_o now_o there_o ought_v to_o be_v be_v the_o question_n before_o i_o and_o both_o those_o i_o must_v think_v conclude_v by_o what_o i_o have_v here_o set_v down_o as_o far_o as_o relate_v to_o any_o true_a i._n e._n original_a right_n from_o any_o appointment_n of_o â—hrist_n or_o title_n of_o succession_n to_o s._n peter_n num._n 16_o much_o more_o may_v be_v easy_o add_v to_o this_o head_n if_o it_o be_v not_o evident_a that_o this_o be_v much_o more_o than_o be_v necessary_a to_o be_v reply_v to_o a_o bare_a suggestion_n without_o any_o specify_v what_o that_o power_n be_v which_o may_v belong_v to_o the_o pope_n over_o the_o universal_a church_n though_o convoke_v of_o counsel_n do_v not_o belong_v to_o he_o and_o without_o any_o offer_n of_o proof_n that_o any_o such_o do_v real_o belong_v to_o he_o chap._n iu._n a_o answer_n to_o the_o exception_n make_v to_o the_o four_o chapter_n sect._n i._n the_o romanist_n pretension_n found_v in_o s._n peter_n universal_a pastership_n of_o possession_n without_o debate_v of_o right_a what_o power_n the_o pope_n be_v possess_v of_o here_o num._n 1_o in_o the_o four_o chap_n his_o objection_n begin_v to_o grow_v to_o some_o height_n they_o be_v reducible_a to_o three_o head_n the_o first_o be_v by_o way_n of_o preface_n a_o charge_n of_o a_o very_a considerable_a default_n in_o the_o whole_a discourse_n that_o i_o remember_v not_o what_o matter_n i_o handle_v the_o other_o two_o be_v refutation_n of_o the_o two_o evidence_n i_o use_v to_o disprove_v the_o pope_n claim_n of_o universal_a trimacie_n from_o christ_n donation_n to_o s._n peter_n the_o first_o of_o the_o three_o be_v set_v down_o in_o these_o word_n num._n 2_o in_o the_o four_o chapter_n he_o pretend_v to_o examine_v whether_o by_o christ_n his_o donation_n s._n peter_n have_v a_o trimacie_n ever_o the_o church_n where_o not_o to_o reflect_v upon_o his_o curious_a division_n i_o can_v omit_v that_o he_o remember_v not_o what_o matter_n he_o handle_v when_o he_o think_v the_o catholic_n ought_v too_o prove_v that_o his_o church_n or_o pope_n have_v a_o universal_a primacy_n for_o it_o be_v grant_v that_o in_o england_n the_o pope_n be_v in_o quiet_a possession_n of_o such_o a_o primacy_n the_o proof_n that_o it_o be_v just_a belong_v not_o to_o we_o more_o than_o to_o any_o king_n who_o receive_v his_o kingdom_n from_o his_o ancestor_n time_n out_o of_o mind_n to_o prove_v his_o pretention_n to_o the_o crown_n just_a for_o quiet_a possession_n of_o itself_o be_v a_o proof_n until_o the_o contrary_n be_v convince_v as_o who_o shall_v rebel_v against_o such_o a_o king_n 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