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A45460 A reply to the Catholick gentlemans answer to the most materiall parts of the booke Of schisme whereto is annexed, an account of H.T. his appendix to his Manual of controversies, concerning the Abbot of Bangors answer to Augustine / by H. Hammond. Hammond, Henry, 1605-1660. 1654 (1654) Wing H598; ESTC R9274 139,505 188

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that_o man_n be_v not_o comprise_v in_o either_o member_n of_o my_o division_n when_o certain_o he_o be_v guilty_a of_o both_o for_o how_o can_v he_o separate_v from_o the_o whole_a church_n unless_o he_o separate_v both_o from_o his_o superior_n and_o his_o equal_n too_o and_o if_o he_o separate_v from_o both_o then_o questionless_a he_o separate_v from_o one_o and_o from_o more_o than_o one_o of_o they_o num._n 5_o be_v it_o possible_a for_o any_o care_n more_o sollicitous_o to_o have_v prevent_v this_o exception_n than_o that_o which_o by_o i_o be_v use_v when_o among_o the_o branch_n of_o equality_n with_o which_o every_o one_o be_v oblige_v to_o preserve_v unity_n and_o communion_n i_o reckon_v up_o not_o only_o the_o believer_n of_o the_o same_o congregation_n etc._n etc._n but_o the_o several_a community_n of_o christian_a man_n from_o parish_n and_o diocese_n to_o clime_n of_o the_o whole_a christian_a world_n chap._n 3._o §_o 5._o and_o indeed_o it_o be_v a_o great_a piece_n of_o austerity_n that_o when_o i_o have_v endeavour_v to_o prove_v that_o we_o of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n have_v not_o voluntary_o separate_v and_o that_o only_o be_v the_o crime_n of_o schism_n from_o any_o one_o particular_a church_n and_o no_o one_o of_o those_o proof_n be_v invalidate_v nor_o as_o yet_o so_o much_o as_o except_v against_o it_o shall_v yet_o be_v think_v seasonable_a to_o reply_v that_o we_o have_v break_v off_o from_o the_o whole_a church_n of_o god_n num._n 6_o be_v not_o that_o whole_a make_v up_o of_o these_o several_n as_o a_o body_n of_o limb_n the_o universal_a of_o particular_n and_o can_v the_o hand_n be_v break_v off_o from_o the_o whole_a body_n when_o it_o be_v not_o break_v off_o but_o remain_v in_o perfect_a union_n with_o every_o part_n of_o the_o body_n if_o the_o arm_n be_v break_v from_o the_o body_n the_o hand_n which_o remain_v unite_v to_o the_o arm_n may_v yet_o be_v separate_a from_o the_o whole_a body_n because_o by_o be_v fasten_v to_o the_o arm_n it_o be_v unite_v but_o to_o one_o and_o not_o to_o all_o the_o member_n of_o the_o body_n but_o a_o union_n to_o all_o the_o member_n of_o the_o body_n suppose_v a_o separation_n from_o no_o one_o part_n that_o remain_v in_o the_o body_n and_o sure_a that_o must_v be_v a_o union_n with_o the_o whole_a body_n which_o be_v nothing_o else_o but_o all_o the_o member_n together_o num._n 7_o and_o so_o as_o his_o second_o thought_n be_v effect_n not_o remedy_n of_o his_o forgetfulness_n the_o very_a same_o which_o he_o have_v mention_v before_o under_o the_o style_n of_o separation_n from_o the_o catholic_n world_n so_o certain_o they_o be_v again_o effect_n of_o his_o inobservance_n that_o his_o principal_a sort_n of_o schism_n separation_n from_o the_o whole_a church_n be_v comprehend_v by_o i_o under_o this_o style_n separation_n from_o the_o several_a community_n of_o the_o whole_a christian_a world_n num._n 8_o as_o to_o the_o former_a branch_n of_o his_o exception_n that_o in_o my_o division_n of_o schism_n into_o that_o which_o be_v against_o monarchical_a i_o say_v and_o when_o he_o recite_v my_o word_n he_o shall_v do_v so_o too_o paternal_a power_n and_o that_o which_o be_v against_o fraternal_a charity_n i_o omit_v to_o mention_v the_o authority_n of_o counsel_n it_o be_v evident_o a_o causeless_a suggestion_n for_o 1._o if_o counsel_n as_o he_o say_v have_v any_o authority_n that_o will_v certain_o be_v reducible_a to_o paternal_a power_n and_o if_o they_o have_v none_o any_o far_a than_o by_o way_n of_o counsel_n and_o advice_n that_o will_v direct_o fall_v under_o the_o head_n of_o fraternal_a charity_n num._n 9_o second_o if_o by_o counsel_n he_o mean_v provincial_n counsel_n it_o be_v evident_a that_o the_o power_n which_o several_o belong_v to_o the_o bishop_n of_o each_o province_n be_v unite_v in_o that_o of_o a_o provincial_n council_n where_o all_o the_o diocesan_n bishop_n be_v assemble_v and_o the_o despise_n of_o that_o be_v a_o offence_n under_o the_o first_o sort_n of_o schism_n a_o breach_n of_o the_o subordination_n to_o the_o bishop_n yea_o and_o the_o metropolitan_a too_o who_o preside_v in_o the_o provincial_n council_n num._n 10_o so_o again_o if_o he_o mean_v national_n counsel_n the_o power_n of_o the_o bishop_n of_o all_o the_o province_n there_o assemble_v divolve_v upon_o this_o assembly_n compound_v of_o all_o of_o they_o the_o despise_v thereof_o be_v the_o despise_n of_o these_o ecclesiastical_a superior_n of_o the_o whole_a nation_n and_o culpable_a and_o schismatical_a upon_o that_o account_n num._n 11_o as_o for_o ecumenical_a or_o general_n counsel_n if_o they_o be_v true_o such_o the_o power_n of_o all_o the_o bishop_n of_o all_o the_o province_n in_o all_o christian_a nation_n divolve_v upon_o that_o and_o so_o can_v be_v despise_v without_o despise_v of_o all_o rank_n of_o our_o ecclesiastical_a superior_n bishop_n metropolitan_o primate_fw-la or_o patriarch_n and_o therefore_o this_o sort_n of_o schism_n can_v not_o be_v deem_v to_o be_v omit_v where_o all_o those_o other_o branch_n of_o which_o it_o be_v make_v up_o be_v so_o particular_o handle_v num._n 12_o that_o any_o more_o special_a consideration_n be_v not_o take_v of_o general_n counsel_n in_o that_o discourse_n the_o account_n beside_o that_o which_o be_v now_o give_v be_v more_o than_o intimate_v in_o that_o tract_n of_o schism_n pag._n 60._o first_o because_o they_o be_v remedy_n of_o schism_n and_o extraordinary_a not_o any_o stand_a judicature_n to_o which_o our_o constant_a subordination_n and_o subjection_n be_v require_v 2._o because_o these_o be_v such_o as_o without_o which_o the_o church_n continue_v for_o the_o first_o 300_o year_n and_o so_o can_v not_o belong_v to_o a_o general_a discourse_n which_o speak_v of_o all_o the_o certain_a and_o ordinary_a and_o constant_a sort_n
the_o future_a you_o will_v not_o easy_o admit_v those_o who_o have_v come_v to_o you_o from_o hence_o and_o that_o you_o will_v not_o receive_v to_o your_o communion_n those_o who_o be_v excommunicate_a by_o we_o see_v the_o council_n of_o nice_a have_v thus_o define_v as_o you_o may_v easy_o discern_v num._n 8_o by_o all_o which_o put_v together_o by_o the_o african_a out_o of_o the_o nicene_n and_o by_o the_o nicene_n out_o of_o the_o apostolic_a canon_n it_o be_v evident_a that_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n have_v not_o power_n to_o absolve_v any_o person_n excommunicate_a by_o any_o bishop_n of_o another_o province_n and_o that_o it_o be_v unlawful_a for_o any_o such_o to_o make_v appeal_n to_o he_o which_o certain_o will_v conclude_v against_o every_o the_o most_o inferior_a branch_n of_o his_o pretend_a authority_n over_o the_o universal_a church_n num._n 9_o if_o this_o be_v not_o enough_o then_o add_v the_o 34_o apostolic_a canon_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o bishop_n of_o every_o nation_n must_v know_v he_o that_o be_v the_o first_o among_o they_o i._n e._n their_o primate_n and_o account_v he_o as_o their_o head_n which_o sure_o infer_v that_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n be_v not_o the_o one_o only_a head_n of_o all_o bishop_n the_o same_o be_v afterward_o transcribe_v by_o the_o 9_o canon_n of_o antioch_n num._n 10_o but_o to_o return_v to_o their_o corpus_fw-la juris_fw-la so_o again_o decret_a par_fw-fr 1._o do_v 99_o c._n 4._o nec_fw-la etiam_fw-la romanus_n pontifex_fw-la universalis_fw-la est_fw-la appellandus_fw-la the_o pope_n of_o rome_n be_v not_o to_o be_v call_v universal_a bishop_n cite_v the_o epistle_n of_o pope_n pelagius_n ii_o nullus_fw-la patriarcharum_fw-la vniversalitatis_fw-la vocabulo_fw-la unquam_fw-la utatur_fw-la quia_fw-la si_fw-la unus_fw-la patriarcha_fw-la unversalis_fw-la dicatur_fw-la patriarcharum_fw-la nomen_fw-la caeteris_fw-la derogatur_fw-la no_o patriarch_n must_v ever_o use_v the_o title_n of_o universal_a for_o if_o one_o be_v call_v universal_a patriarch_n the_o name_n of_o patriarch_n be_v take_v from_o all_o the_o rest_n and_o more_o to_o the_o same_o purpose_n the_o very_a thing_n that_o i_o be_v here_o to_o prove_v num._n 11_o so_o again_o ch._n 5._o out_o of_o the_o epistle_n of_o pope_n gregory_n to_o eulogius_n patriarch_n of_o alexandria_n where_o refuse_v the_o title_n of_o vniversalis_fw-la papa_n universal_a pope_n or_o father_n or_o patriarch_n and_o call_v it_o superbae_fw-la appellaetionis_fw-la verbum_fw-la a_o proud_a title_n he_o add_v si_fw-la enim_fw-la vniversalem_fw-la i_o papam_fw-la vestra_fw-la sanctit_fw-la as_o dicit_fw-la negat_fw-la se_fw-la hoc_fw-la esse_fw-la quod_fw-la i_o fatetur_fw-la vniversum_fw-la if_o the_o patriarch_n of_o alexandria_n call_v the_o pope_n universal_a father_n he_o do_v thereby_o deny_v himself_o to_o be_v that_o which_o he_o affirm_v the_o pope_n to_o be_v universal_o the_o meaning_n be_v clear_a if_o the_o pope_n be_v universal_a patriarch_n then_o be_v he_o patriarch_n of_o egypt_n for_o sure_a that_o be_v a_o part_n of_o the_o universe_n and_o then_o as_o there_o can_v be_v two_o supremes_n so_o the_o bishop_n of_o alexandria_n can_v be_v patriarch_n of_o egypt_n which_o yet_o from_o s._n mark_n be_v time_n be_v general_o resolve_v to_o belong_v to_o he_o and_o the_o word_n of_o the_o nicene_n canon_n be_v express_v to_o it_o that_o according_a to_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d original_n primitive_a custom_n the_o bishop_n of_o alexandria_n shall_v have_v power_n over_o all_o egypt_n lybia_n and_o pentapolis_n add_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n see_v this_o be_v also_o customary_a with_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n of_o antioch_n etc._n etc._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o the_o privilege_n shall_v be_v preserve_v to_o the_o church_n num._n 12_o all_o which_o argue_v of_o that_o pope_n yea_o and_o that_o great_a council_n be_v perfect_o unconcluding_a inconsequent_a as_o i_o be_v say_v to_o be_v if_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n or_o any_o other_o have_v power_n over_o patriarch_n or_o authority_n over_o the_o universal_a church_n which_o here_o this_o gentleman_n be_v please_v to_o affirm_v and_o so_o sure_o must_v think_v gregory_n more_o than_o fallible_a when_o he_o thus_o protest_v and_o dispute_v the_o contrary_a num._n 13_o how_o much_o high_a than_o this_o the_o same_o gregory_n ascend_v in_o express_v his_o detestation_n of_o that_o title_n be_v sufficient_o know_v from_o his_o epistle_n to_o mauritius_n the_o emperor_n in_o regist_n 1._o 4._o ep_n 30._o i_o shall_v not_o here_o trouble_v he_o with_o the_o recitation_n of_o it_o num._n 14_o what_o be_v after_o these_o passage_n set_v down_o in_o their_o body_n of_o the_o law_n show_v indeed_o that_o the_o pope_n continue_v not_o always_o of_o this_o mind_n neither_o be_v i_o of_o opinion_n that_o they_o do_v the_o story_n be_v know_v to_o all_o how_o boniface_n iii_o with_o much_o ado_n obtain_v of_o phocas_n the_o emperor_n a_o edict_n for_o the_o primacy_n and_o universal_a jurisdiction_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n see_v paul_n diac_n de_fw-fr gest_n be_v romanorum_fw-la l._n 18._o which_o yet_o be_v a_o argument_n that_o till_o than_o it_o have_v no_o foundation_n num._n 15_o whether_o there_o be_v ancient_o any_o such_o high_a than_o patriarch_n and_o whether_o now_o there_o ought_v to_o be_v be_v the_o question_n before_o i_o and_o both_o those_o i_o must_v think_v conclude_v by_o what_o i_o have_v here_o set_v down_o as_o far_o as_o relate_v to_o any_o true_a i._n e._n original_a right_n from_o any_o appointment_n of_o ●hrist_n or_o title_n of_o succession_n to_o s._n peter_n num._n 16_o much_o more_o may_v be_v easy_o add_v to_o this_o head_n if_o it_o be_v not_o evident_a that_o this_o be_v much_o more_o than_o be_v necessary_a to_o be_v reply_v to_o a_o bare_a suggestion_n without_o any_o specify_v what_o that_o power_n be_v which_o may_v belong_v to_o the_o pope_n 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