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A91309 Truth triumphing over falshood, antiquity over novelty. Or, The first part of a just and seasonable vindication of the undoubted ecclesiasticall iurisdiction, right, legislative, coercive power of Christian emperors, kings, magistrates, parliaments, in all matters of religion, church-government, discipline, ceremonies, manners: summoning of, presiding, moderating in councells, synods; and ratifying their canons, determinations, decrees: as likewise of lay-mens right both to sit and vote in councells; ... In refutation of Mr. Iohn Goodwins Innocencies Triumph: my deare brother Burtons Vindication of churches, commonly called Independent: and of all anti-monarchicall, anti-Parliamentall, anti-synodicall, and anarchicall paradoxes of papists, prelates, Anabaptists, Arminians, Socinians, Brownists, or Independents: whose old and new objections to the contrary, are here fully answered. / By William Prynne, of Lincolnes Inne, Esquire. Prynne, William, 1600-1669. 1645 (1645) Wing P4115; Thomason E259_1; ESTC R212479 202,789 171

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over them both in and out of Synods After this in the very height of Popery and the revivall of it in England in the first year of Queen Mary a Parliament and Convocation being summoned to re-establish Popery the Queen her selfe appointed and commanded a publike Disputation to be held at Pauls Church in London in the Convocation house about the matter of the Sacrament which was accordingly held and continued six whole dayes many Earles Lords knights Gentlemen and divers of the Parliament Court and City being present at it to the end that they might constitute Laws of the matters of Religion debated which the Queen and Parliament might ratifie The Disputation being ended The Queen sent a Writ to Bonner Bishop of London to dissolve the Convocation which was done accordingly So that this Convocation did nothing in matter of doctrine or discipline even in these times of Popery but what the Queen did first direct and limit them Queen Mary deceasing and Queen Elizabeth a Protestant Princesse succeeding her called a Parliament and Convocation to suppresse Popery and re-establish the Protestant true Religion To effect which with more facility this pious Queen having heard of the diversity of opinions in maters of Religion among sundry of her loving Subjects and being very desirous to have the same reduced to some godly and christian concord by the advice of the Lords and others of the Privy Councell as well for the satisfaction of persons doubtfull as also for the knowledge of the very truth in certain matters of difference commanded a convenient chosen number of the best learned of either part to conferre together their opinions and reasons concerning three particular points that should be prescribed to them thereby to come to some good and charitable agreement with all convenient speed Hereupon nine of the learnedst Papists were chosen on the one side and nine of the ablest Protestants on the other to debate these three Propositions prescribed to them in writing 1. It is against the word of God and the custome of the ancient Church to use a tongue unknown to the people in common Prayer and the administration of the Sacraments 2. Every Church hath authority to appoint take away and change Ceremonies and Ecclesiasticall Rites so the same be to edification 3. It cannot be proved by the word of God that there is in the Masse offered up a sacrifice propitiatory for the quick and the dead It was further resolved by the Queens Majesty that the conference on both parties should be in writing for avoiding much altercation of words that both sides should declare their minds opinions and reasons in writing and at the same day deliver them mutually one to the other to be considered and to return their answers thereto in writing by a certaine day Immediately herupon divers Nobles and States of the Realme understanding that such a meeting and conference should be in certain matters whereupon In the Court of Parliament consequently following some Lawes might be grounded they made earnest request to her Majesty that the parties of this conference might be ordered to put and read their Assertions in the English tongue and that in the presence of them of the Nobility and of The Parliament House for the better satisfaction and ordering of their owne judgements to treat and conclude of such Lawes as might depend hereupon This also being thought very reasonable was signified to both parties and so fully agreed upon and the day appointed for the first meeting to bee the Friday in the afternoone being the last of March at Westminster Church At which day and place both for good order and for honor of the Conference By the Queens Maiesties Commandement the Lords and others of the privie Councell were present and a great part of the Nobility also The Lord Keeper and the rest of the Lords bearing chiefe sway in ordering this conference as you may read at large in Master Fox in the second dayes discourse In this Conference I shall onely observe two passages of the Protestant party The first is the begining of their Prologue to their written Conference in these words For as much as it is thought good to the Queens most Excellent Majesty unto whom in the Lord all obedience is due that we should declare our Iudgement in writing upon certain Propositians We as becometh us to do herein most gladly obey The next is their third observation from the law of Justinian the Emperor commanding all Bishops and Priests to celebrate the holy oblation and prayers in Baptisme with an audible voyce c. And let them know this that if they neglect any of these things the dreadfull judgement of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ shall fall upon you neither will wee when wee know it rest and leave it unrevenged viz. That this Emperour being a christian did not only make Constitutions of Ecclesiasticall matters but also threatneth revenge and sharp punishment to the violaters of the same Therefore they held he had an obliging power over his Subjects and a coersiveauthority vested in him to enforce obedience to his Lawes of which more hereafter As this was the practise of this blessed pious Queen in the begining of her Raigne to prescribe to her Clergy in Convocation what they should treat off and how So it continued in use and was punctually submitted to by all Convocations during her Raigne and that not onely as a matter of complement but of conscience religion and the established doctrine of the Church of England as you may read at large in Bishop Jewels Apology of the Church of England and in the Defence of his Apologie against Harding part 6. c. 9. to 16. p. 689. to 766. a learned full discourse to this purpose and in Bishop Bilsons true Difference between Christian Subjection unchristian Rebellion the second part to omit all others who have handled this subject in her Raigne It seemes therefore strange to me that this which was reputed the true doctrine of the emmine●test learnedest writers Reformers of this Church and of the Church of England it selfe from the begining to the end of her happy Raign and ever since should bee deemed meere Antichristian Diabolicall theomacall and meer Popish doctrine now when as the contrary opinion is really such Our late Soveraigne King James in his Letters Patents before the Ecclesiasticall Canons and Constitutions made in Convocation A● 1603. recites that he called that Convocation by his Writ and that ●e did By severall Letters Patents under his Great Seale of England the one dated the 11. of April the other the 25. of Iune in the first year of his Raigne Give and grant full free and lawfull liberty power and Authority unto the sayd Clergy in their Convocation who without such a Patent and License could debate and conclude nothing else it had been vaine and superfluours To conferre Treat Debate Consider Consult and agree of and upon
the Assembly not by any particular man or men in a private way when either House shall require it All things agreed 〈◊〉 and prepared for the Parliament to be openly read and allowed in the Assembly if the major part assent Provided that the opinion of any persons dissenting and the reasons urged for it be annexed thereunto if the Dissenters require it Together with Solutions if any were given in the Assembly to these Reasons Jo Browne Cler. Parliamentorum Having thus sufficiently evidenced the authority and jurisdiction of Parliaments in matters of Religion and Church affaires by these numerous punctuall irrefragable Presidents in all Ages give me leave to add these two considerations to them to demonstrate this their undoubted right and priviledge beyond all contradiction and silence every adverse tongue Pen of all Papists Anabaptists Brownists Separatists or Independents whatsoever First that all our ancient and moderne Writs for summoning a Parliament have ever had this speciall clause in them Pro quibusdam ardnis ungentibus negotiis Nos statum defensionem Regni Angliae ECCLESIAE ANGLICANAE concernentibus qu●ddam Parliamentum c. teneri ordinavaimus From whence it is most apparent That the state and defence of the Church of England and well ordering of the same is one Principall end of summoning Parliaments and one maine part of the subject matters of our Parliaments as Sir Edward Cooke resolves 2ly That all every of the pre●ended opposites to Parliaments Ecclesiasticall jurisdiction hand formely and none especially in the present Parliament addressed severall Petitions to this High and Honorable Court for Reformation of the Church suppression of haeresies Errors Idolatry Popery Superstition Schismes Prela●y and establishing Gods true worship Religion Ordinances Discipline as to the most proper Iudicature Tribunall Lawgiver in our Church which they could resort unto and not to the Convocation or any other Assembly of Clergy-men alone or Independent Congregation To give you some few remarkable instances besides those formerly remembred instead of infinite others which I pretermit for brevity Our famous English Apostle Iohn Wickelesse as he professedly maintained in K. Richard the second his Raigne That any Clergy-man yea the Pope himselfe might lawfully be reprehended accused and corrected by Lay-men That the temporall Lords and Princes might lawfully and meritoriously take the possessions and Revenues from the Church and from Ecclesiasticall persons offending habitually c. to the end they might reforme them And that they were obliged to reforme the Church and Prelates under paine of being traitours to Iesus Christ So likewise in the fifth year of this King he Writ and sent to the Lords and great men assembled at London IN PARLIAMENT seven Propositions tending to the abolishing of the Popes usurped power and exactions to selfe the temporalities of Deli●●●ent Bishops to remove Bishops and Clergy-men from all secular imployments 〈◊〉 reforme the abuses of Excommunications and imprisonments upon them to 〈◊〉 Transubstantiation and reforme the Churches both to 〈…〉 the particulars whereof you may read at large in 〈◊〉 And 〈◊〉 long after his learned Disciple William 〈◊〉 a Marty● being unjustly condemned by the Bishop of Hereford for maintaining Wickliffes opinions appealed to the King and Parliament against it and withall writ a pious Letter to the Parliament recorded by Master Fox which concludes thus Deare worshipfull Sirs in this world Theseech you for Christs love as ye yet 〈◊〉 loven Gods Law and Truth that in these dayes is greatly borne abacke that they wollen vouchsafe these things that I send you written to Gods worship to let them be shewed IN THE PARLIAMENT as your wits can best conceive to most worship to our God and to shewing of the truth AND AMENDING OF HOLY CHVRCH My conc●usions and mine● appeale and other true matters of Gods Law if any can finde in them error falsenesse or default privet by the Law of Christ clearly to christian mens knowledge I shall revoke my wrong conceit by Gods law be amended more ready to hold with Gods law openly and privily with Gods grace and nothing to hold teach or maintain that is contrary to his Law By which he made that very Parliament Iudges of his Doctrine had reformers of the Church though for the most part Papists in those dayes On the contrary side the very Papists Prelates Clergy and Convocation in those times did likewise Petition the King and Parliament for suppression of haereticall opinions Preachers Bookes Schooles Conventi●les and the punishment and restraint of hereticks sectaries haereticall preachers and Schoolmasters as they deemed them and upon their prayer and importunity the Statutes of 5. R. 2 〈…〉 5. ●2 H. 4. c. 15. ● H. 5. c. 7. to which the Commons never consented were made and 〈◊〉 to that purpose as is evident by the very words of the Acts themselves Master Fox his Acts and Monuments vol. 1. Edi● 〈◊〉 p. 773. And it is as evident that the Popish Commons Petition was the cause of the Statute of 25 H. 8. c. 14. For the punishment of heresie and the Popish Clergyes importunity to King Henry the eight his motion to the Parliament the occasion of the bloudy Statue of 31 H. 8. c. 14. 34. H. c. 8. 1. as the words of the Acts and Master Fox demonstrate both King and Clergy Nobles and Commons even in these times of Popery deeming our parliaments the meetest Iudges and only lawgivers for ordering Church affaires and matters of Religion About the 37. yeare of King Henry the 〈◊〉 Roderick Morse once a Grey 〈◊〉 published a book in print 〈◊〉 A complaint to the Parliament house of England directed to the Parliament wherein he demonstrates many abuses and corruptions of the Church and Clergy of England in those dayes both in matter of Doctrine Worship Discipline manners which he earnestly presseth petitioneth the Parliament effectually to reforme by wholsome Lawes and Edicts as a thing most properly belonging to their place and Iurisdiction as the whole booke manifests which had been very absurd had the Parliament been no meer Iudge of Religion and Church affaires and no 〈◊〉 Reformers of these abuses by Lawes and punishments as some now repute them In King Edward the sixt Queene Maries and Queene Elizabeths severall Raignes the Clergie and 〈◊〉 made their Petitions and addresses to the Parliament for setling reforming establishing all matters of Religion Church-government and discipline as the forementioned Statutes with multitudes of Petitions and bookes printed and dedicated to the Parliaments in their severall Raigns demonstrate especially 1. and 2. Phili. and Mary c. 6. 8. 1 Eliz. c. 1. 2. 4. 8. Eliz. c. 1. Two admonitions to the Parliament Anno. 1572. Iohn Penry his supplication to the Parliament and others The Petitions to all the severall Parliaments in King Iames his Raigne and our present Soveraignes but more especially to this present Parliament from all sorts of people in every County of the Realme
HERETIQVES limiting the maner of proceeding against them defining what shal be heresie how it shall be punished and abridging the Authority of the Bishops and Canon Law ch 16. concernes Pluralities ch 19. containes the submission of the Clergy Convocation to the King declares the Kings supremacy in causes Ecclesiasticall the impotency of the Clergy or Convocation to make or promulge any Canons or Ecclesiasticall constituti●ns or to debate any thing in Convocation without his Royall Lycence and approbation The Nullity and invalidity of the Canon Law abolisheth all appeales to Rome and Authorizeth 32. persons whereof halfe to be of the Clergy the other halfe of THE LAITY to survay the Canon Law and to compile a body of the Canon Law to be authorized by the King under his Great Seale by vertue of this Act for to be the only Canon Law to be used within this Realme Chap. 20. takes away the payment of any Annates o● first fruits to the Bishop of Rome nullifies his usurped power and Buls settles the forme of electing and consecrating Archbishops and Bishops within this Realme and plentifully manifests the Kings and Parliaments Jurisdictions in Ecclesiasticall affaires chap. 21. doth the like exonerating the Kings Subjects from all exactions and Impositions heretofore payed to the Sea of Rome and enabling the Archbishop of Canterbury and his Officers to grant all Licences and dispensations within the Realme which were formerly granted at Rome only The Statute is worthy perusall consideration fully demonstrating the power of the Parliament in Church affaires 26. H. 8. c. 1. declares the Kings Highnesse to be supreme head of the Church of England under Christ making it a part of his Royall Title and to have Ecclesiasticall authority to redresse and reforme all Errors Heresies and abuses in the Church punishable by any spirituall or ecclesiasticall Law Chap. 3. enacts The payment of the first fruits of all Dignities Benefices promotions spirituall and tenthes to the King and his Heires abolishing the Popes usurpations and authority herein ch 13. abolisheth sanctuarie in cases of High Treason ch 14. Authorizeth the nomination and consecration of suffragan Bishops in sundry places of this Realme and both creates and limits their authority chap. 15. takes away some exactions of spirituall men within the Archdeaconry of Richmond 27. H. 8. c. 8. limits that the Kings spirituall Subjects shall pay no Tithes whiles they are in their first fruits ch 15. authorizeth the King to nominate 32. persons halfe of the Clergy the other of the Laity for the perusall and making of Ecclesiasticall Lawes and manifests the Convocations invalidity to make such lawes or Canons ch 19. Limiteth and abolisheth Sanctuaries and sanctuary persons ch 20. containes an Order touching the paying of Tithes throughout the Realme ch 21. Limits the maner of payment of Tythes within the City of London ch 27. suppresseth divers Monasteries Priories and Religious Houses vesteth their revenues in the King and erects the Court of Augmentations 28. H. 8. ch 10. extinguisheth thes authority of the Bishop of Rome prescribes an Oath of abjuration of it and Popery together with the Popes usurpations and excellently sets forth the Kings supreamacy the Parliaments authority in matters ecclesiasticall as you may read in the Act worthy perusall ch 11. enacts Restitution of the first fruits in time of vacation to the next incumbent ch 13. compells spirituall persons to residence upon their livings ch 16. Releaseth such as have obtained pretended Licences and dispensations from the Sea of Rome 31. H 8. c. 6. enables such as were Religious persons to purchase lands to sue and be sued in al maner of Actions which they were disabled formerly to do by the Common Canon Law ch 9. Enables the King to make Bishops by his Letters Patents only and to erect new Bishopricks which he did ch 13. disolves all Monasteries and religious Houses and vests them in the King wherein you may behold much of the Kings and Parliaments power in Church businesses ch 14. For abolishing of diversity of opinions in matters of Religion most fully and exactly demonstrates the Kings and Parliaments jurisdictions in matters of Religion as the whole Act sufficiently manifests though the Articles therein defined were erronious and the Act too cruell and bloudy 32. H. 8. cap. 8. provides for the true payment of Tythes and offerings chap. 10. containes the punishment of incontinent Priests and of women offending with them ch 12. concernes Sanctuaries and the priviledges of Churches and Church-Yards ch 15. prescribes the manner of proceeding against Heretickes and impugners of the Act for abolishing of enormious opinions in Christian Religion chap. 23 24. concernes Accounts of Bishops and subsidies granted by the Clergie chap. 25. Dispences the Kings marriage with the Lady Iane chap. 24. Dissolves the Hospitalls of Saint Johns of Ierusalem in England and Ireland for supporting and maintaining the supremacy and jurisdiction of the Bishop of Rome contrary to their duty and Allegiance chap. 26. Intitled An act concerning true opinions and Declaration of Christs Religion is most pregnant to our present purpose which you may peruse chap. 38. Concerning precontracts of marriages and degrees of consanguinity is likewise a most punctuall Act for the Kings and Parliaments Ecclesiasticall power and chap 44. 45 47. good evidences of it 33. H. 8. chap. 15. 27 28 29 30 31 32. Enabling Religious persons to sue and bee sued severing the Bishopricks of CHESTER and Isle of MAN from the jurisdiction of CANTERBURY to the See of Yorke making the Church of Whitgate a Popish Church by it selfe and severing it from the Parish of Over which I wish our Independents to observe and to learne from this and other Acts that no new Churches or Parishes can be erected legally but by act of Parliament which none of their Churches are 34. and 35. H. 8. c. 1. intituled An act for The advancement of true Religion and For the abolishing of the contrary is most pertinent to our purpose and c. 15. 17 19 35. H. 8. c. 9. for ratification of the Kings stile and Title of Defender of the Faith and supreame head of the Church of England and Ireland ch 6. Concerning the qualification of the Statute of the 6. Articles c. 16. concerning the examination of the Canon Lawes by 32. persons halfe of the Clergie and halfe of the temporalty to be named by the Kings Majesty during his life to compile a body of the Canon Law to bee used in the Realme 37. H. 8. c. 4. 12. but especially ch 17. That Doctors of civill Law may execute Ecclesiasticall jurisdiction though Laymen and married a Law worthy reading and chap. 21. For the union of Churches not exceeding the value of 5l which could not be done but by Act of Parliament are all most pregnant evidences of the Kings and Parliaments indubitable Ecclesiasticall jurisdictions in matters of Discipline Religion Church-government and all Church affaires whatsoever The Statutes made in King