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B15350	De adiaphoris Theological and scholastical positions, concerning the nature and vse of things indifferent. Where also is methodically and briefely handled, of ciuill and ecclesiasticall magistrates, of humane lawes, of Christian libertie, of scandall, and of the worship of God. A vowed worke, destinated (by the grace of God) to appease the dissentions of the Church of England. Written in Latine by M. Gabriel Powel, and translated into English by T.I.; De adiaphoris. English	Powel, Gabriel, 1576-1611.; Jackson, Thomas, 1579-1640, attributed name.; T. I., fl. 1607.	1607 (1607)	STC 20146; ESTC S101530	122,532	204

of depriuation so giuen in the Ecclesiasticall Courts which causeth me the more to maruel at the impudencie and presumption of the refractarie faction that contradict all the Iudges and traduce all such Sentences as vniust vnlawfull c. That which followeth concerning the Statute of Magna Charta and the lawfulnes of the Depriuation of the refractarie Ministers for not conforming themselues c. requireth no farther answere seeing the Defender himselfe pag. 93. confesseth such depriuation to be iust and according to Law Depriuation for non-conformitie granted lawfull by the Defender saying Hereupon WE GRANT that if the King haue any Ecclesiasticall Law of the Land which thing was neuer doubted by any man for the DEPRIVATION of a Minister from his libertie and freehold for not subscription periurie contempt of Canonicall so called obedience omission of rites and ceremonies not precise obseruation of the booke of Common Prayer c. then WE GRANT that the Ordinaries being the Kings Iudges Ecclesiasticall MAY RIGHTLY DEPRIVE A MINISTER FROM HIS BENEFICE for these offences Yet I can but wonder at the giddines of the Defenders Spirit where he seemeth expressely to deny what heere he confesseth Notwithstanding saith he I affirme that all Iudiciall acts and Sentences how many soeuer of depriuation of Ministers from their Benefices had made and giuen by the Ecclesiasticall Iudges since the 25. of King Henry the 8. only according or only by force and vertue of the said Ius Pontificium or Bishop of Rome his Law the Sentences giuen in the time of Queene Mary excepted are and ought to be holden not to be had made and giuen by the Lawes of this Kingdome or by the Kings Ecclesiasticall Law And why Euen because the whole Ius Pontificium or Bishop of Romes Law was altogether excepting the time of Queene Mary abrogated annulled and made void by an Act of Parliament and consequently is but a meere Alien Forraine and Strange Law and no municipall Law of England and therefore not the Kings Ecclesiasticall Law I answere I. The Defender had been a good Anuocate for bloodie BONER and other Popish Prelats that were depriued in the daies of that renowmed Prince King EDVVARD the VI. and also in the beginning of the raigne of our late noble Queene for all the Lawiers in England were not then able to espie what now the Defender plainely seeth except his eyes deceiue him II. The Depriuation of the refractarie Ministers for non-conformitie is grounded not vpon the Canon Law but vpon the expresse words of the Statute of 1. Eliz. cap. 2. All and singular Archbishops and Bishops c. shall haue full power and auctoritie by vertue of this Act c. to punish by admonition excommunication sequestration or DEPRIVATION c. III. It is not true that the Canon Law was euery yet How farre the CANON Law is abrogated or is now altogether abrogated annulled and made void by Act of Parliament and so consequently it is not a meere Alien Forraine and Strange Law but is the Law of the Land yea and the Kings Ecclesiasticall Law as is manifest by the very words of the Statute which the Defender would haue pointed at 25. H. 8. cap. 19. in fine Prouided also that such Canons Constitutions Ordinances and Synodals prouinciall being already made which be not contrariant nor repugnant to the Lawes Statutes and customes of this Realme nor to the damage or hurt of the Kings prerogatiue Royall SHALL NOVV STILL BE VSED AND EXECVTED as they were afore the making of this Act. And in the 21. Chapter more plainely 25. H. 8. cap. 21. non longè à princip Where this your Graces Realme recognising no Superiour vnder God but only your Grace hath bin is free from all subiection to any mans Lawes but only to such as haue been deuised made and ordained within this Realme for the wealth of the same NW or To SVCH OTHER as by sufferance of your Grace and your Progenitors the people of this your Realme haue taken at their free libertie by their owne consent to be vsed amongst them and haue bound themselues by long vse and custome to the obseruance of the same not as to the ordinance of the Lawes of any forraine Prince Potentate or Prelate but as to the CVSTOMED AND ANCIENT LAVVES OF THIS REALME NW originally established as LAVVES OF THE SAME by the said sufferance consents and custome and none otherwise It standeth therefore with naturall equitie and good reason that all and euery such Lawes humane made within this Realme or induced into this Realme by the said sufferance consents and custome your royall Maiestie c. Thus farre the words of the Statute Both which Acts being repealed by Queene Mary were reuiued againe by Queene Elizabeth 1. Eliz. cap. 1. in princip and so stand in force at this day The Defenders long and tedious Digressions touching the Oath ex Officio a point learnedly hādled by M. Doctor Cosens in his Apologie whereunto I referre the Reader and also concerning the Canons it were to wearisome vnto the Reader here to refute Neither haue I such leasure to follow him in his idle and adle discourses but haue determined precisely to keepe my selfe within the bounds prescribed by the Suppliants Linquo coax ranis c. IX ARGVMENT God doth euer plentifully recompense any kindnes shewed vnto his Children Supplicat specially vnto the Ministers and disciples of Christ Ergo The high Court of Parliament ought to shew kindnes vnto the refractarie ministers ANSVVERE To the Consequence I OVr Sauiour saith Answere He that receiueth a Prophet in the name of a Prophet shall receiue a Prophets reward Matth. 10.41 So shall he also that doth any kindnes vnto a Minister But if a Minister do otherwise then he ought as these Refractaries do what kindnes then ought such to haue done vnto them The Defender replieth two things I. Reply There is a secret contradiction in this Answere for as a Maior out of his Office is no Maior so a Minister out of his Ministerie is no Minister Was there euer heard such a Proposition vttered by any Diuine A Minister out of his Ministeris is no Minister Reioynder An absurd Position of the Defender Then belike as oft as a Minister is silenced or suspended or depriued if he shall be restored againe or called into some other place hee must haue a new ordination Vnpossible and absurd Neither can the Office of a Maior being but temporary for a yeere only be compared vnto the Office of a Minister being perpetuall The Error is 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 in Theologia Also 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 II. Reply What a multitude of conformable Ministers are quite ouerthrowne by this Argument For do not many of them otherwise then they ought But what aduantageth this the refractarie Ministers Reioynder We doe not affirme that such as doe otherwise then they ought whether conformable or refractarie

not yeeld vnto the beholders that specious grace of Ecclesiasticall Policie nor that delightfull shewe of orderly forme of things which we see in ENGLAND 37 And this most orthodoxe and pure Religion wee haue now by GODS grace most constantly professed for the space of almost threescore yeeres excepting the lamentable fiue yeeres of Queene Mary as manifestly appeareth out of the Liturgie according vnto the prescript whereof we celebrate Diuine Seruice 38 But notwithstanding that any man being not monstrous Cyclopicall The rage of certaine Ministers against the Liturgie of the Church of England would willingly embrace and rest in this Consent both of GOD and the CHVRCH yet behold alas some Men interpreting all things into the worse sense not knowing any thing aright weighing no reasons and considering not the times doe insolently set vpon not the Doctrine against which the Diuell himselfe dares not mutter any thing but the Discipline and Liturgie of the Church of England and most boldly pronounce iudge of other mens Counsels and actions What is done they reprehend and carpe at what ought to bee done they prescribe and dictate They loath what is well deliuered and being full of arrogancie hunt after new opinions 39 Neither do they these things as good men are wont to doe modestly and timously and in due place but accusatorily and insolently and in the pulpit and before the Common-people vnto whom nothing is more pleasing than railing and backbiting 40 Yea and in the Streetes and tipling-houses they moue dispute about Ecclesiasticall Discipline and Ceremonies and that very superciliously and haughtily 41 From hence also certaine INFAMOVS LIBELS flie abroad of such factious and giddie braines Infamous LIBELS as feare lest by the moderation and gentlenes of some all Controuersies be composed and solide peace once againe established amongst vs. 42 This peruerse improbitie and importune licence with Tribuniticall clamours hath giuen cause of horrible distractions 43 For the most Reuerend Prelates of the Church together with the wise Ciuill Magistrates perceiuing that these are the Censures and clamours not of Men seeking the truth but for the most part of turbulent and seditious fellowes such as hate quietnes or hunt after popular applause or certainly of giddie and curious men of which sort there is not any man but hee is maleuolent and enuious as the Poêt noteth will not permit any vntimely alteration in the Liturgie or Discipline of our Church Alterations dangerous in which alwaies euen in the most peaceable times there is some discommoditie specially seeing this Age I know not by what destinie seemeth to be subiect to often changes and seeing the inconstancie curiositie and wantonnesse of mens wits is marueilous strange in these our times 44 Wherefore both for procuring of the peace of the Church and for preseruation of Order and Decencie in the Assemblies and Congregations they adde also a Commination that whosoeuer refuse to vse the Common and publike Liturgie according vnto the order established they depart from their places The tumults of the Refractarie Ministers 45 Hereupon certaine turbulent men being angrie and contentious either by nature or by euill custome louers of cauilling and sophistrie do not rest but perpetually braule and foolishly contend where there is no neede 46 And that they might stirre vp hatred and heape vp suspitions and iealousies they cite sundrie places out of our Liturgie which calumniously and malitiously they interprete directly against the sense and meaning of the Church Then tumultuously they exact the suffrages and consent of others and here and there they picke out certaine sentences out of our Writers that so they might seeme to haue not only witnesses but also abbettors of their Schisme and faction 47 In the meane time tragically complaining of the most grieuous and intolerable Yoke forsooth of Ceremonies and Humane Traditions namely of the Surplice What Ceremonies the Refractarie Ministers dislike in the celebration of Diuine Seruice and administration of the Sacraments of the Consignation of the Crosse in the Sacrament of Baptism and of Kneeling in the Lords Supper of a meere foolish morositie and contumacious obstinacie and stubbornnes they resist and contradict their Gouernours nourish strife and contention and either for the care of retaining the opinion of constancie or by the endeuour of gratifying others or for desire of licentious Libertie or for the loue of noueltie The Refractatie Ministers forsakers of their Churches or for the hatred of peace and order or out of the nature of the Spirit of giddinesse or for some other cause they forsake their Churches and charge and so by their owne pertinacious refractarines they impose deepe SILENCE vpon themselues 48 Now then seeing the matter standeth thus Who are the Authors of Scandall in the Church of England it is no difficult and hard thing to iudge who in the Church of England are THE AVTHORS OF SCANDAL 49 But this superstitious and obstinate SILENCE the impietie whereof is apparant and manifest Woe be vnto me if I preach not the Gospell c. ought not to be preferred before the inuocation of the true GOD in the Assemblies of the Church before the necessarie labours and works of our Vocation and calling before the eternall saluation of many thousand soules 50 And albeit subtle and craftie men inuent fig-leaues to palliate and couer their error yet this Veritie is so manifest that it can be ouerthrowne by no Sophistrie by no Sycophancie 51 For this OBSTINACIE AND PERVERSENES of the Ministers is a manifold SCANDAL The Ministers obstinacie is a manifold Scandall It grieueth the Holy Spirit of God in the Weaker sort who see themselues sorsaken of their Pastors without greater without any cause at all Also they are brought in doubt fearing that the vse of Libertie is not approoued by them whom they know to excell in learning and thinke to bee truly religious 52 Neither are the sighes and desires of good men in many Churches obscure whose pitifull moane and grieuous teares the Ministers ought to regard and bee affected with if they would be accounted PASTORS and not TYRANTS 53 For this cause Many being hindred for want of skil yea ouerwhelmed in the darknesse of ignorance doe not call vpon but rather flie from GOD. 54 And Many rush headlong into an Epicurean and Atheisticall contempt of Religion or are plunged ouer head and eares in the lamentable gulfe of Desperation 55 So that this morositie and contumacie of the Ministers hath drawne infinite multitudes of Soules from GOD and driuen them headlong into the pit of eternall destruction 56 O slintie hearts of Pastors forsooth if they doe not consider these so great mischiefes if they haue no commiseration and pitie at the lamentable destruction of so many Soules if they weigh not how grieuous a Sinne it is to hinder the true inuocation of Gods holie name if they think not that themselues being learned and diligent Teachers are more

rather he doth it to recall vs from our sinnes of securitie vnthankefulnes pride c. The repressing of the Schismaticall Ministers not the Suppressing of the Ministerie of the Gospell as you speake is excluded from that End because it is no sinne to labout to recouer them and to reduce them to vnitie and obedience The Error is 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 The rest which the Defender addeth is true not of such as he is but of the faithfull Ministers of the Gospell II. REASON of the 17 Arg. Supplicat God hath lately deliuered the House of Parliament and the whole Land frō a bloodie intended Massacre Ergo That honorable Court specially ought to testifie their thankefulnesse vnto God by restoring the refractarie Ministers ANSVVERE AS if there were no other meanes Answere whereby that honorable Court might testifie their thankefulnes but by restoring Schismaticall Pastors vnto the Church the more to disturbe the peace thereof The Defender replies Reply We denie not but that there are other meanes whereby that honourable Court may testifie their thankfulnes yet this hindreth not but that this also may bee one But the other meanes differeth from this ex toto genere Reioynder That other is the true exercise of pietie and charitie this is horrible sinne which would prouoke GOD the more to punish vs. That which he addeth concerning mercie and crueltie towards mens soules is meere fopperie which hath been answered alreadie III. REASON of the 17. Arg. Many of the honorable Lords Supplicat and other members of the Parliament are very ancient and striken in yeeres and therefore neuer againe like to be of any other Parliament Ergo They ought to do good now by restoring the Depriued and Silenced Ministers ANSVVERE BVt it hath not been yet proued Answere that to restore the refractarie Ministers is to do Good and not rather to do hurt and to SINNE by being cause of nourishing faction and dissention in the Church The Defender replieth NOTHING but saith that this is Answered alreadie But where IV. REASON of the 17. Arg. Supplicat The refractary Ministers would be very glad if they were comforted restored and let alone Ergo They ought so to be ANSVVERE So would all Schismatiques Answere Heretiques Papists Atheists yea all malefactors murderers theeues cutpurses be very glad if they were comforted deliuered and let alone The Defender replies Reply In the bitternes of his Spirit he reckoneth vs vp with all Schismatiques Heretiques Papists murtherers theeues cut-purses That my SPIRIT IS BITTER Reioynder such as haue any familiar acquaintance with me know to bee the ERROR of your iudging and censuring Spirit a fault too common vnto the men of your stampe I doe not parallel you with Heretiques Papists Atheists murtherers theeues cut-purses onely I shew the absurditie of the Suppliants reason seeing all these would bee as glad to bee let alone as you would V. REASON of the 17. Arg. Supplicat The House of Parliament by their mercie shewed to the refractarie Ministers shall not only treasure vp comfort vnto themselues against the day of their death but shall also make their Old-age the more honorable and their names memorable amōgst all posteritie Ergo They ought so to do ANSVVERE I. IF by Mercy Answere they meane their reclaiming from Schisme and faction I graunt the whole II. But if they meane their restoring againe they continuing still the same men they are now then is the Antecedent a foule Begging of the Question and the Argument inconsequent III. For contrariwise it may bee concluded The House of Parliament by Restoring Schismaticall Ministers to disquiet the peace of the Church shall not only attract guilt and remorse of conscience but also preiudice their honorable Age and make their names reproachfull amongst all posteritie The Defender replies Reply Onely herein the Answerers censure of the Parliament if they should restore vs is to be obserned viz. that they shall not onely attract guilt and remorse of Conscience but also preiudice their honourable Age and make their names reprochfull to all posteritie This toucheth not onely the Lords of the vpper house and body of the Commons in the nether house but also his most excellent Maiestie without whose Princely auctoritie nothing can be done by the other I censure not the honourable Court of Parliament Reioynder neither the vpper nor the lower House much lesse doe I censure his Maiestie because I know they will neuer RESTORE SCHISMATIQVES to disquiet the peace of the Church My words are plaine I speake vpon supposition of doing that which I assure my selfe will neuer be done to retort the Supplians Reason vpon themselues Is this censuring the Parliament and King No no that trade is proper vnto the Defenders faction and vnto their catercozens or fellow-censurers the Papists This fellowes malice seemes to exceede his learning VI. REASON of the 17. Arg. Supplicat As Jsrael was blessed aboue other women dwelling in tents for driuing a nayle into Siseraes head So should these Parliament men bee blessed aboue many former if they vtterly took away all the Whoore of Romes Ornaments yet remaining c. Ergo They ought to do so ANSVVERE THe instance is altogether different Answere For Sisera was a speciall enemie of the Children of Israël and of the Church of God Iudg. 4.2 But the Ornaments the Suppliants speake of are the good creatures of God hauing no hurt or ill in them The Defender replies Reply I. Was not Sisera also the creature of God and in that respect may it not be said that hee had no euill in him And is not the Pope also an enemie to the people and Church of God as well as Sisera was Sisera was indeede the creature of GOD Reioynder but an hurtfull enemie vnto the Israelites the Ornaments wee speake of are creatures in like manner but without hurt in them What saith the Defender is not the Pope also an enemie to the Church of God as if these Ornaments were the Pope II. Reply What doth the Answerer say for the Ornaments that might not haue been said for Images Yes forsooth Images are hurtfull Reioynder so are not the Ornaments We are prohibited to MAKE Images but not to VSE the Ornaments The Error is 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 II. Neither were the Popish Idolatrous Priests euer decked with our Ornaments Answere neither are they now III. Neither were our Ornaments euer worshipped or abused to Idolatrie neither are they yet IV. Neither if they had bin is it absolutely necessary to destroy the Substance of them together with the abuse but the abuse is to be abolished and the true vse restored The reasons hereof and cautions to be vsed in this point I haue laid downe in another place Cap. 11. lib. de Adiaph The Defender replies I. Are you sure Reply there is neuer a Surplice now in England that

was abused to Idolatrie publikely in Queene Maries time or secretly sithens that time If it be true of Surplices are you sure it is true of all Coapes I am not sure I thinke so Reioynder II. Haue you forgotten the distinction of Idem specie Reply and Idem numero I remember it well but this is Reioynder as if it were vnlawfull to vse gold in the Temple at Hierusalem because Aaron framed his Idolatricall Calfe of gold III. By this reason Reply we may erect new Images in the Churches say that these Images were neuer worshipped or abused Nothing lesse Reioynder We are expressely forbidden to MAKE an Image as hath bin noted before XIIX ARGVMENT Supplicat The high Court of Parliament is bound specially to open their mouth for the dumbe to iudge righteously to iudge the afflicted and the poore to giue strong wine to him that is ready to perish and not to contemne the iudgement of the meanest Subiect Ergo They are bound specially to restore the refractarie Ministers ANSVVERE I. THis Argument is parallel Answere the very same with the 8. Argument before and is there answered II. In one word I grant the Antecedent and deny the Consequence because the refractarie Ministers are not such as are specified in the Antecedent as is often declared before The Defender replies Reply This is the Conclusion of all which the Notarie and Answerer vnaptly call a distinct Argument Neither is there any thing heere answered requiring replie then hath been already made Reioynder I haue followed the Auctor of the Supplication in numbering his Arguments who in the beginning of this Argument or Conclusion terme it what you will for me pag. 28. of the Supplication layeth downe this number 18. and so goeth on with the Paragraph as he had done in all the Arguments before adding their proper number And had not I reason to take it for a distinct Argument being so laid downe by the Auctor But let it be as indeed all the rest are no Argumēts a goodly CONCLVSION forsooth the Defender seeth nothing in the Answere worthy a Reply nor I any thing in the Reply worthy a Reioynder AND thus haue I encountered with IGNORANCE it selfe ioyned with extreame MALICE passions wherewith the Defender seemeth to be notoriously qualified First his IGNORANCE is palpable in that he hath neither Arte to dispute nor Stile to discourse nor Iudgemēt to discerne such matters as he handleth al which are euidently confirmed I. By his immethodicall and euil-featured thapsodie being full of vaine tautologies and farsed with much friuolous and idle talke as it were of a discrasied braine lest his Booke forsooth might be termed a TRIOBOLAR PAMPHLET or a TVVO-LEAVED LIBELL as himselfe seemeth to confesse pag. 17. II. By his senselesse Periods and grosse Solecismes euen in the English tongue as pag. 38 The Auctor is able to defend his meaning or ready to yeeld better reason TO THE CONTRARIE also pag. 46. The Cause why wee are put out is not FOR RESPECT of our selues but FOR FEARE of sinning against God and pag. 58 Except you meane NOT the cause of the Ministers and pag. 150. Let the contrarietie of the Answerer to almost IN his whole Answere written be obserued c. III. By his absurd Paradoxes which no Diuine euer maintained before him as pag. 34. The Kingdome of heauen consisteth in the ABVSE of outward things also pag. 36. The libertie of Preaching doth NOT PROPERLY belong to the Ministerie of the Gospell and pag. 120. A Minister out of his Ministerie is NO MINISTER there are many more such examples but I labour to be short Secondly his MALICE is apparent in euery page yea almost in euery line of his Defence wherein hee scorneth and reproacheth and slaundereth not only my poore selfe whom he extreamely hateth for no other cause but because I am not of his faction but also all the reuerend Prelats and Magistrates of this Land yea the whole Church of God amongst vs as we haue heard alreadie When I had first perused ouer this vile and disgracefull Libell I could but maruel at the impudencie of the Defender that in so learned an age durst presume to publish so fillie a worke Whereupon I purposed to haue passed it ouer with silence as disdaining to accept so Ignorant a Man for my Antagonist and to encounter with such as with an Aduersarie whom it were fitter to instruct as a Schoole-boy But when I had better considered the humor of the refractarie faction who embrace euery Sentence proceeding from their RABBINES as an ORACLE be it neuer so absurd and perceiued the Booke it selfe to bee preiudiciall to his Maiesties auctoritie and Lawes to the peace of GODS Church and propagation of the Gospell I was perswaded for this once to take a litle labour to shew the Defēders folly in his weaker Defence of so weake Arguments which I haue done as briefely as I could for why should I speake much of a Discourse so little worth And heere I openly testifie and plainely professe both vnto the Defender and to all others of his straine that if hereafter any of them shall set vpon or attempt any thing against any Booke or Writing of mine if they shall doe it in the common Idiome of the English I will passe it ouer with silence and not vouchsafe them any Answere and this 1. Because it is not fit and conuenient that this Controuersie being moued only amongst Scholers and no way concerning the Lay-people should be vulgarly handled to the increase of factions and part-takings in the Church 2. Because that hauing other imployments more necessarie for these times by this meanes I shall be free from being troubled with the tedious prating the clamorous and scornefull gybing of euery DVNSE that can but chatte English Wherefore I require and adiure you my reuerend Brethren as you tender the quietnes of the Church yea and your owne honest reputation that hereafter if you be not yet satisfied you will write in the LATINE tongue which is the tongue of the Learned and not in the ENGLISH to fill the Common-peoples heads with idle and vaine questions Which reasonable request if you shall refuse to yeeld vnto surely it will be thought that all you do is but ad faciendum populum and also that you are but ignorant and vnlearned men not able to write in Latine as indeed all the DISCIPLINARIANS in English are reported to be I speake not this of all that stand out for the Ceremonies among whom there are some whom I reuerence for their gifts but of the giddie Presbyterians such as this simple Defender is who could bee contented these twelue monethes to suffer my Booke De Adiaphoris to passe vnanswered because it was written in Latine but no sooner came there any thing vnder my name in English but presently he set vpon it according vnto the Prouerb Who more bold then blind Bayard The Lord heale the wounds of his Church appease this intestine dissention among Brethren and grant that wee may do all things to the glory of his holy Name APOCAI 7.12 Amen Praise and Glorie and Wisedom and Thankes and Honor and Power and Might be vnto our GOD for euermore Amen FINIS