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A65920 A reply to the answer of Lieutenant General Ludlow, or, His answer to the officers at Dublin examined with a concluding word to the present authoritie in Parliament / by E.W. E. W., an actor in the late change in Ireland. 1660 (1660) Wing W20; ESTC R26298 9,914 20

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their Wheels of Justice going no doubt but you would have had better grounds for those reports you have raised then yet you had I wish it may be prevented by a timely a consideration of their sufferings Necessity is lawless But you seem much to rejoyce that you have so just a Bar to appeal unto as that of the Parliaments who you doubt not but will protect you against the malicious prosecution of any Cavilerish spirit whatsoever Answ. In this you would insinuate the Subscribers to be Cavileers and therefore they may equally rejoyce with you as well for their own sakes as for yours they have that power to appeal to now sitting for whose restitution they have so freely adventured their All 2. I will not say 't is as strange to see how you interfere in your Principles who can now own them as a Parliament when not long since you told some of themselves you did not look upon them as a Parliament but as a Company of honest Gentlemen that met there for the good of their Countrey and upon that accompt you joyn'd with them In concluding of the Paragraph page 10. you say If to be fai●hfull and constant to the Parliament in opposition to a single person King-ship c. If to bear witnesse against such as are disaffected to publick interest or as are vicious in their lives and conversations c. be high Treason you then confesse your self guilty Answ. If that were all I should say the same with you But stay Sir there is somewhat else Is it fidelity to this Parliament for a General of Ireland to come from thence and sit in the Counsels of their enemies would this have been judg'd so had any Member of the house or General of their Army gone to sit with the Kings Counsels as I said before in Oxford Nay have not the house already determined it in their Sentencing of Sir Henry Vane and Major Sallaway Is it fidelity to the Parliament to be ingaged as one of the chief to settle a new foundation of Government for these Nations Is this to bear your witness against such as are disaffected to the Parliaments Interest Who were ever against the Parliament if such be not that shall presume to pull out their Masters and make null their Lawes and yet with such you could joyne whether this be the substance of the Articles or all that is to be said I will not determine But certainly if these things are not Treason they are highly criminal For to make the best of it can any rational man think that 't is a sufficient plea for a General of an Army to quit his duty as a General to run to the enemies Counsels to intreat them to let their Masters sit again You tell them again in Page 11. Of your intentions to 〈◊〉 thorow into Ireland in order to compose the difference there Answ. But why were not your intentions put in practise till within two dayes of the Parliaments sitting can any man judge your intentions to be real when your Actions were contrary Had you been made a Prisoner for endeavouring to escape the Army in Ireland would have unanimously declared for you But it seems there was no such danger for in the same pag. you say You had laboured with the Lord Fleetwood that you might repair to your charge above a moneth or five weeks before he sent you an ill sign your intentions were real for to use your own words in the same page had that power any longer prevail'd you had staid longer with them I am sure nothing less can be imply'd But you say Fleetwood having received a letter from Captain Algat that Ireland had declared for the Parliament he then thought it necessary you should repair to your charge Answ. It seems you were one of those soldiers that was under Authority when you were bid stay you stai'd and when you were bid go you went And is this to shew your fidelity to the Parliament of which you so much boast that you would not adventure some hazards to get from their enemies Or who will not say The Army of Ireland had sufficient cause to conclude That if you had been a friend to the Parliament you had been clapt up in London and not sent away with a Mandamus by Fleetwood In page 12. you say your brother Kempsons name was set to the Declaration contrary to his minde because he did not like the company Answ. The latter I easily believe because he found no whimsical persons amongst them But I assure you the former is not true for he ordered the Clerk to set his name after some contest had been about the words our Lieutenant General But you say you looked upon it as your dutie to hasten into Ireland because many persons that had subscribed the Declaration were of a contrary principle thereto and adhered to another interest namely that of a single person Answ. But suppose they had been such are your principles so rigid and imposing which you yet condemn in others as you will never admit of repentance 2. But why more hast now then good speed had your haste been so hastie you would have hasted over before to have hindred that revolt that was made from the Parliament but it seems there was no danger on that side for if the Work were done as you declared at Connaway you did not care by what Instruments so it might not be by a single person In the same page to answer the Officers you tell them that before you left London you took your leave of the Speaker and left the Addresse of the Officers with him which declar'd their hearty affections to this Parliament and their resolution to stand by them to which very few of the Subscribers hearts or hands then were Answ. No doubt your going to the Speaker at that time was your wisdome but certainly there would have appeared more integritie had you gone sooner or else have published the Addresse in Print as soon as you came to London but when it might have done good you could keep it in obscurity and then discover it when be sure it was of no advantage 't is well their fidelitie was better made knowne by their own Actions then by yours The Designe of the Subscribers you say is now laid open by their imprisoning many persons that did declare for the Parliament though not with them Answ. Friendship is best known in time of straights at such a season the Army in Ireland generally shewed their fidelitie whereas several now under restraint declar'd not till forc'd to it and the rest had publickly defected from the very beginning but the world may see by this who you judge to be the Parliaments best friends In the next you say it is now out of doubt they are for the King because the moderatest of that party have publickly declar'd for Sir George Booth's design Answ. There is much fraud in a general charge why do you not come