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A54015 A modest detection of George Keith's (miscalled) Just vindication of his earnest expostulation published by him as a pretended answer to a late book of mine, entituled, Some brief observations, &c. By E.P. Penington, Edward, 1667-1701. 1696 (1696) Wing P1144; ESTC R220367 34,038 60

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dis-praised as falling short of Papists in Zeal for the Christian Faith and how far this method was like to prove destructive rather than beneficial if practised to the true Protestant Religion I then shewed but he jumps over as indeed he doth most of the most material Points through that whole Treatise from the beginning to the end so that I may truly say he hath not answered it so much as by halves Snapping at this and Snarling at the other but going through little or nothing as he should which how meanly it looks in one of his Qualifications to so pitiful an Antagonist as he renders me I need not determine but shall refer that part to my Reader to think of it as he sees Cause As to what he objects concerning G. Fox the Elder G. Fox the Younger and E. Burroughs he is still in nubibus only a fling and away keeps in bare generals comes to no particulars and therefore not worthy ef notice In my Ninth Head viz. His malice against our Books I charged him with being either grossly insincere in pretending it is far from him to desire the least Sufferings to come upon our Persons or estates or else very Ignorant of the Law in such cases viz. Matters Blasphemous and Heretical which he hath alledged our Books contain which deeply affects both Persons and Estates by Imprisonments Fines and Pillory c. To this saith he I answer 1. Were not by the same Argument they Insincere or Ignorant who have charged not only some of their Brethren but differing from them in Punctilio's of their Church-Government and Womens Meetings as in particular Christopher Taylor his charging William Rogers with high Blasphemy in a Printed Book of his but also in charging with Heresie and Blasphemy many of the Ministry in the Nation reputed Orthodox by Civil Authority Answ His Reflection upon C. Taylor will not do him any kindness for 't is not Paralel with the State of the Case between him and us For C. Taylor dealt with W. Rogers Controversially only in writing and by way of a Religious Reproof and there left it but did not appeal to the Civil Magistrate against him no not at all he was so far from that that he directed it to none but Friends as An Epistle of Caution to them But on the other Hand G. Keith proposed to have the Pious and Learned c. encouraged by the Civil Power to question Friends about Blasphemy Heresie c. which would tend to a Judicial and Civil Tryal and Conviction and so if his attempts could take effect bring them under the danger of the Temporal Laws Again G. Keith says falsly in assigning the difference between W. Rogers and Friends to be a difference only in Punctilio's of Church-Government For had he read the Book and not resolved to close his Eyes he might see that W. Rogers finds fault with our Doctrine Preface p. 32. and Christian Quaker Part 1. p. 69. And therefore in his Second Part treats of Doctrines wherein he opposed his to ours in many particulars Thirdly If nothing of this kind could be offered yet is Recrimination of another no Just Vindication of a Man's self If C. Taylor had been Culpable and done amiss that doth not Justifie G. Keith in doing Evil. And now I think fit to take notice and that once for all of his Unmanly dealing he by way of dislike and reproach mentions in several places of his Vindication G. Fox both Elder and Younger E. Burroughs and C. Taylor who are all Dead two of them I believe before himself went under the name of a Quaker the other two he esteemed as Brethren and seemed to be in Unity with while Living and yet he must now be digging up their Graves I would ask him What hurt they have done him since they were Dead that he cannot let them rest now seeing while Living he had nothing to say against them He goes on to a 2dly But must not their Vile Errours and Heresies be opposed and the Authors of them witnessed against and warning given against them otherwise all that do so must they be reckoned Persecutors and Malicious Answ If he like the work let him go on with it no Body hinders his Printing nor proposes to hinder it Opposition in Meetings by Countenance or Authority from the Civil Magistrate was the thing I found fault with But let me tell him withal it is not his calling this that or the other Errour and Heresie that will make it so and if he call things by their wrong Names on purpose to render a People odious that 's Malice and a degree of Persecution proceeding from a Root of bitterness and if encouraged will not cease 'till it come to Fire and Faggot Rack and Gibbet And if what he wrote above thirty Years ago be worthy of Credit we are not a People deserving such Reflections fe● Help in Time of Need p. 68. And we the People of the Lord whom he hath formed for himself shall shew forth his Praise and the Lord will make it manifest that we are his and that he hath raised us up and put his Spirit in us and that he dwells in and among us to all the Kindreds and Nations of the Earth and they who will not see shall see and be ashamed and confounded for their Envy at the People whom God hath blessed and will bless for ever and ever and no Deceit nor Violence shall prevail against them Now if he dare believe himself had he not better desist from his fruitless and envious Work he is carrying on against us lest himself be confounded I am now come to his Objections against my Tenth and Last Head wherein he endeavours to evade the Proofs I brought to Evince that The Case between our Books and his Pennsylvania Books as stated by him was far different To my alledging ' It was but common Prudence to hide the Bone of Contention which he had prepared to throw in amongst us lest his quarrelsome Books should infect some with the same Spirit of Discord here as his quarrelsome Discourses and Behaviour had infected some there He Answers p. 7. thus 1. Had it not been more honesty in them as well as Christian Prudence to have disowned these gross Errours which I evidently proved against them in Pennsylvania out of their own Letters and Manuscripts as well as by other Proofs then to have hid and cloaked them and excommunicated me for my faithful opposing them Answ That ever those gross Errours he exclaims against were evidently proved against those he accuses I never yet understood from any but himself who is too much a Party to be esteemed an unbyassed Judge in his own Cause how evident or how lame the Proofs were and upon the same bottom is his Charge laid against those he accuseth of Hiding and Cloaking those Errours he hints at but that he was Excommunicated as he Terms it for his faithful opposing them I deny The Words of