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A87006 Truth and innocency, prevailing against error and insolency: wherein is examined and discovered these following particulars. I. Whether Baptism be sprinkling or dipping. II. Whether the subject to be baptised, be infants or believers. III. Whether the punishment of original sin, be the first or second death. IV. Whether man be in an immortal estate before the resurrection. V. As touching the resurrection, whether these bodies of ours shall rise again & be made immortal, or whether it will be another body. VI. Of Gods love to the whole lump of mankind make known. VII. Of the personal raign of our blessed saviour upon Earth ... by way of answer to Mr. Hezekiah Holland, sometimes preacher at Sutton-Valence in Kent ... a second part: wherein is proved, that all the laws and statutes of King Jesus ... are practicable ... with many objections answered. It being an answer to one Mr. Simon Hendon of Benenden in Kent. / By George Hammon, Pastor to the church of Christ in Biddenden, Kent. Hammon, George. 1660 (1660) Wing H505; Thomason E1022_4; ESTC R208505 201,438 228

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it And thus I pass the sour Winds at present and come to speak somewhat briefly to the Angels which is saith Mr. Henden The Angels spoken of Revel 7.1 we conceive saith he to be evil Spirits working by their principal Ministers the four capital Patryarchs of the Christian World to wit the Bishop of Alexandria c. Answ Methinks it 's very strange Doctrine to be published or to be believed namely to say that evil Spirits should have power to hold the good Spirits and so the good Spirit or the Spirit of God to become as it were subordinate to the evil that God should put his Spirit into the hands of the Devil I have read in Acts 7.51 1 Thes 5.19 that wicked MEN may resist the counsel of God or Spirit of God against themselves and quench the workings of the Spirit of grace within themselves whereby they should be Sealed unto the day of Redemption But I never yet read that the Devil or wicked men could hinder the working of Gods Spirit in or amongst his Church and to think that God would give his good Spirit to be holden by and among wicked Spirits is very vain and rediculous for what concord hath Christ with Belial or what fellowship hath light with darkness or God with the Devil But peradventure some will say we cannot indeed readily believe that ever God gave his Spirit into the custody of evil Spirits to hold Therefore what Angels do you think they were and what were the Winds Answ The Angels I understand to be the Angels of the Lord who are Ministring Spirits sometimes to administer blessings but now sent forth by God to execute his Judgments upon the great Antichrist after the Man-child was caught up to God to his Throne for it followeth in the nick of time even when the Heaven is rowled together like a serouse Revel 6.14 15 16. to the great amazement that will be at the sign of the Son of man coming in the clouds of Heaven with power and great glory and at that time woe be to the inhabitants of the earth and sea Revel 12.12 because of the Devils being come down and then shall go forth the seven Angels to pour out their Vials upon the earth and at that time also shall the four Angels that held the four Winds execute their office at which time there shall fall grievous and noysome sores upon those that have received the mark of the Beast Revel 16.1 2 3. That both Sea and Land shall be infected and the Sun scorching with heat every green tree and the Sons of men also and by reason of the Winds being with-held the earth Sea and Rivers and Fountains of water together with the Sons of men shall be so scolded with the heat of the Sun that they shall be grievously perplexed and shall blaspheme the name of God because of the plagues Revel 16.9 and the execution of these things will be in the time of the Prophesie of the two witnesses Revel 11.6 compared with Zech. 5.1 2 3. with Revel 10.2 vers 10. chap. 11.1 2 3 4 5 6 7. the which if the Lord will I shall speak to more at large anon when I come to discover what the outward Court and holy City is and of its being trod under foot and who the woman is which travaileth and what the Man-child is and of his being taken up to God and to his Throne of the flight of the woman into the Wilderness and what Wilderness and the time how long these things with several other are so annexed together that they are unseperable and thus I pass saying that the Winds are to be understood according as the Scripture calls them namely the sour Winds of the EARTH and thus I come to the next thing considerable which is Of the outward Court and holy City Revel 11.1 2. in these words And there was given me a reed like unto a rod the Angel stood saying arise and measure the temple of God and the Altar and them that worship therein but the Court which is without the Temple leave out and measure it not for it is given unto the Gentiles and the holy City shall they tread under foot forty and two moneths and I will give power to my two witnesses and they shall Prophesie a thousand two hundred and threescore dayes cloathed in sackcloth Before I shall give you the exposition of the Text or unfold it unto you I shall shew what Mr. Henden saith is the meaning of the Text which is We maintain saith he the Temple to decypher the mystical union of the one hundred and forty four thousand Sealed or elected ones whereby they are built up a spiritual house and the Court without to be the externity of ecclesiastical order which was established by Christ in the primitive times page 38. Paragraph 1. Section 4. Answ I know not any one Text that seems to bear a face to such a thing as the Temple to decypher the mystical union of the one hundred forty and four thousand Sealed ones neither do I understand that the Sealed ones are or can be applyed to the faithful Gentiles without wresting and abusing the Text for the Text tels us plainly that they that are Sealed are the Tribes of the Children of Israel and reckoneth them according to their several Tribes as you may read Revel 7.4 5 6 7 8. in these words And I heard the number of them that were Sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the Tribes of the CHILDREN OF ISRAEL mark that of the Tribe of JVDAH were Sealed twelve thousand of the Tribe of RVBEN were Sealed twelve thousand of the Tribe of GAD were Sealed twelve thousand of the Tribe of ASER were Sealed twelve thousand of the Tribe of NEPTHALY were Sealed twelve thousand of the Tribe of MAN ASSES were Sealed twelve thousand of the Tribe of SIMEON were Sealed twelve thousand of the Tribe of LEVI were Sealed twelve thousand of the Tribe of ISSACHAR were Sealed twelve thousand of the Tribe of ZEBVLON were Sealed twelve thousand of the Tribe of JOSEPH were Sealed twelve thousand of the Tribe of BENJAMIN were Sealed twelve thousand the which amounts just to one hundred forty and four thousand there being twelve thousand of every Tribe Sealed for there is twelve Tribes and twelve times twelve thousand is one hundred forty and four thousand the which were all of the Tribes of the Children of Israel so that those that call them Gentiles wresteth the Scripture for the Scripture doth not only call them the Tribes of the Children of Israel vers 4. but also repeateth every Tribe severally so plain that it cannot without great abuse to the holy Spirit be evaded time would fail me to shew the particulars relating to this thing only thus it is evident by the Angel out of the East that these twelve Tribes are to be sealed in their fore-heads to that end that when the Angels go forth to execute
namely Mans Mortality A DISCOURSE Touching the Mortality of the Soul IN order to the clearing up of this Subject of Dicourse I shall lay down this Position which is That man by sin made himself wholly mortal So that when God shall take away his breath which is from the time of death till the time of Resurrection he is no more then what he was before God breathed into him the breath of life which was but dust and also to dust he doth return and the word Soul is used for illustration sake and very large in its acceptation in Scripture sometimes to be understood one thing sometimes another that no man living can say of any one thing this is the soul and this is not but the whole individual man is taken for the soul and where there is spoken of soul and body there is no more difference than there is between Spirit and breath only it is spoken by way of illustration and the Greek word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 doth signifie several things as the Mind Will Soul Delight Pleasure Affection Disposition Phantasie Life Breath Wind Blast Wrath Anger Memory Thought Stomack Courage Advice Opinion Heart Witt Stoutness Willingness Promptness or Readiness of Mind also Sleep and also Man these many significations and more is derived from the word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 which we read in our Translation Soul But leaving these things I shall come suddenly to the Reasons and then answer some Objections but first see some Scriptures which proveth that Man is wholly mortal and first see the words of the Wise man Eccles 3.19 20. in these words For what befalleth the sons of men befalleth Beasts even one thing befalleth them as the one dyeth so dyeth the other yea they have all one breath so that man hath no preheminence above a beast for all is vanity all go to one place all are of the dust and return to dust again Agreeable to the Word of the Lord Gen. 3. Dust thou art and to dust thou shalt return and this is also further amplified by John 4.7 8 9 10 11 12. in these words For there is hope of a tree if he be cut down that it will sprout again and the tender branches thereof will not cease though the root thereof wax old in the ground and the stock thereof die in the earth yet thorow the descent of water it will bud and bring forth branches like a plant but man dyeth and wasteth away ye man giveth up the Ghost and where is he as the waters fall from the Sea and the floods decay and dry up so man lyeth down for we must needs die and be as water spilt upon the ground that cannot be gathered neither doth God respect the person of any man yet he hath used a means that his banished shall not be for ever expelled from him From whence we may see that the estate of man is compared to the floods that are dryed up that is become as it were nothing and is so to remain until the resurrection for by sin and death we are banished from the Lord yet he hath used a means namely to bring us forth again at the Resurrection that his banished should not be for ever kept from him but if the righteous go to heaven so soon as they die how are they banished from him and become as water spilt upon the ground For what man is he that liveth and shall not see death Shall he deliver his soul from the hand of the grave Selah Psal 89.48 2 Sam. 14.14 No he cannot deliver his soul from the hand of the grave when God sets his heart to look upon man as you may see Job 34.14 15. in these words If he set his heart upon man if he gather unto himself his spirit and his breath all flesh shall perish together and man shall again return unto dust From these words we see all flesh is to perish and man is flesh yea the whole man for that which is born of flesh is flesh now the soul of man is born of flesh and if it be not spirit it must die and the Apostle saith that the first man meaning the whole man was earth earthy and as is the earthy so are they that are earthy howbeit it was not first that which was spiritual but that which was natural and then that which was spiritual speaking there of the man Adam and the man Christ affirming that the first Adam was an earthly natural man and the second Adam viz. Christ was a heavenly spiritual man so then the first man thorow his sin made himself mortal even the whole man there is a multitude of Scriptures that proveth this thing but time being very pretious with me I cannot at this time set them in order before thee but shall pass to some few Reasons to prove man wholly mortal and the first is Reas 1. First because Christ dyed soul and body to purchase our souls and bodies from the grave and if Christs soul dyed it was really to that end that our souls might not lie in the grave and if we had dyed only in body then Christ had dyed only in body but the whole man being mortal and returned to dust Christ also poured out his soul to death and made his soul an offering for sin as saith the Prophet Isa 53.10 When thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin he shall see his seed mark that he shall prolong his dayes and the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in his hand 12. Because he hath poured out his soul to death and he was numbred with the strangers and he bore the sins of many c. From hence we see that Christs SOVL dyed that ours might live again and not be left in the grave which proveth that our souls are mortal and die and so I pass to the second reason to prove That the whole man is mortal which is Reas 2. Secondly because if mans body be mortal and that die and his soul immortal that live then man hath two lives two distinct Beings which is not for if there be two distinct lives and two distinct Beings then Adam was two distinct Creatures and then it cannot be said that as by the offence of ONE Judgment came upon all men to condemnation for Adam upon that account was TWO distinct beings having two distinct lives but man having but one life the whole man must be mortal or the whole man immortal and that the whole man is mortal the Scriptures and our experience doth witness Reas 3. Again Thirdly Because otherwise Christ had done Lazarus wrong by raising him from the dead for if his Soul had been in Heaven four dayes and then Christ fetched it from thence it was so far from an act of love to him whom Christ so well loved that it was great prejudice and also I strange that Lazarus did not mention one tittle of the glory of Heaven if he had been
upon the earth Selah Then shall the earth yeeld her increase and God even our God shall bless us and all the ends of the earth shall fear him for the Lord shall be King over all the earth From these Scriptures we may see that the Lord is to dwell with men even to come down and dwell with them it is not said that man shall dwell with God implying a removing of their place but the Tabernacle of God to be with men and he to dwell with them implying that God will remove his habitation But peradventure some may say will the Lord come and dwell with us upon a corrupt carnal earth To which I answer and first Christ did dwell with his Disciples upon the earth and eat with them after his Resurrection what will that teach us weigh it well But secondly the earth then shall be more pure then the Heavens are now for the earth shall be clean in his sight and very good as he at first made them when the restorer shall have restored all things for then the curse will be taken away but as saith Eliphaz Job 15.15 The heavens are not clean in his sight I might speak of Gods dislike of it by reason of the Angels transgression But you will say there shall be a new heaven as well as a new earth I answer it is true where ever Gods seat is there is Heaven but Gods seat shall then be upon earth in Jerusalem where he was shadowed out of old and hence Jerusalem is called by the Prophet Isa 65.17 18 19. the new Heaven in these words Behold I create a new Heaven and a new Earth and the former shall not be remembred nor come into mind but be you glad and rejoyce for ever in that which I create for behold I create Jerusalem a rejoycing and her people a joy and I will rejoyce in Jerusalem and joy in my people and the voyce of weeping shall be heard no more in her nor the voyce of crying From these words we may see what is to be understood by the new Heaven and new Earth spoken of in the 21 Chapter of the Revel and what is to be understood of the Tabernacle of God being with men and he to dwell with them even the Lord of Hosts in his holy mountain at Jerusalem And Saviours shall come upon mount Zion viz. Saints to Judge the mount of Esau when the Kingdome shall be the Lords and so I pass to the seventh Reason to prove that Christ and the Saints shall receive a Kingdom and raign upon earth which is Reas 7. Seventhly Because Christ hath commanded us to pray for it even that his Kingdom might come that his will might be done in Earth as it is in Heaven For there is a time coming that it shall be so and the earth shall be full of the knowledg of the Lord as water covereth the Sea when the Law shall go forth of Sion and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem now till that day there will be weakness and imperfection amongst the godly that the will of God sometimes will be opposed and resisted but at that time there shall be no sin or disobedience amongst the godly for if they seek for sin in Judah there shall be none found for they shall defile themselves no more with any of their detestable things for all the ends of the earth shall remember and turn unto the Lord and all the kindreds of the Nations shall worship before thee for the Kingdoms is the Lords he is the governour amonst the Nations Psal 22.27 28. Ezekiel 37. Matth. 6.10 Micah 4. From hence we may see that Christ is to have a Kingdom and raign and govern the Nations upon the earth at which time his will shall be done upon earth as the Angels do it in Heaven and this Kingdom also is the Saints it being the good pleasure of the Father to give it unto them as saith Christ Luke 12.32 So then Christ and the Saints are to receive a Kingdom and raign upon earth And so I pass to the eighth reason to prove Christ and his Saints to raign upon earth which is Reas 8. Eightly Because the Scripture saith that God will raise up unto David a righteous branch viz. Christ who shall have the Government upon his shoulders and execute Judgment and Justice in the earth mark that and in his dayes Judah shall be saved which yet is not and Israel shall dwell safely and the Saints shall shout for joy and the wicked shall be as ashes under the soles of their feet for God will make Zion as a threshing of Iron having teeth which shall beat the mountains of oposition into dust and the little hills into powder And that there shall be such a righteous branch rise up to David who shall give his people rest and a Kingdom and dominion that they may raign with him upon earth read these Scriptures and peruse them well Jer. 23.5 6. in these words Behold the day cometh saith the Lord that I will raise up unto David a righteous branch and a King shall raign and prosper and shall execute Judgment and Justice in the EARTH in his day Judah shall be saved and Israel shall dwell safely and this is the name whereby he shall be called THE LORD OVR RIGHTEOVSNESSE From these words we see that the Son of David namely the Lord Christ our Righteousness is to be King and that over all the earth to execute Judgment and Justice therein and at that time or in the dayes of his raign Judah shall be saved and Israel shall dwell safely that is God will restore as before said their Judges as at the first viz. the Saints who will judge them in righteousness for the shield of the earth belongeth unto the Lord for so saith the Prophet Isa 9.6 7. in these words For unto us a Child is born unto us a Son is given and the government shall be upon his shoulder and his name shall be called Wounderful Counsellor the mighty God the everlasting Father the Prince of peace of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end upon the throne of David and upon his Kingdom to order it and to establish it with Judgment and with Justice from henceforth even for ever From whence we see that if Davids Kingdome was upon earth then Christ will have a Kingdom upon earth for it is to be upon the throne of his Father David and that is the sure mercies of David that he was never to want a man to sit upon his throne meaning that Christ was to sit there but more of that anon Hence you may see that Christ is to receive a Kingdom and raign upon earth and his Saints with him for they are joynt heirs that in suffering with him they may also be glorified together and raign with him according to the Scriptures Rom. 8.17 2 Tim. 2.12 And so I pass to the ninth Reason to prove that
Heavens shall be filled with the flesh and bloud of Captaines and great men of the earth For thus saith the Prophet Ezek. 39.17 18. And thou son of man thus saith the Lord God speak unto every feathered foul and to every beast of the field Assemble your selves and come gather your selves on every side to my sacrifice that I do sacrifice for you even a great sacrifice upon the mountains of Israel that ye may eat flesh and drink blood Ye shall eat the flesh of the mighty and drink the blood of the Princes of the earth and ye shall eat fat till ye be full and drink blood till ye be drunken of my sacrifice which I have sacrificed for you And all the heathen shall see my Judgment that I have executed and my hand that I have laid upon them Revel 19.17 And I saw an Angel standing in the Sun and he cryed with a loud voyce saying to all the fouls that flie in the midst of Heaven come and gather your selves together unto the Supper of the great God That ye may eat the flesh of Kings and the flesh of Captains and the flesh of mighty men and the flesh of horses and of them that sit on them and the flesh of all men small and great bond and free From these Scriptures you may see that there is to be a very great slaughter at the time when the Lord Christ shall take his Kingdome to Raign upon Earth and several Prophets also bear their testimony to this thing as Isa 34.5 6. Joel 2.1 2 3 4. But because of the want of time I pass to the reasons of the point Reason 1. Because the Scripture saith that God will give him viz. Christ the heathen for his inheritance and he shall bruise them like a potters vessel Psal 2. and we also see what the Psalmist saith of Christs victory over his enemies Psal 110.5 The Lord at thy right hand shall strike thorow Kings in the day of his wrath he shall Judge amongst the heathen he shall fill the places with the dead bodies he shall wound the heads over many Countries for saith he I will tread them down in my anger and trample them in my fury and their blood shall be sprinkled upon my garments and I will stain all my rayment for the day of vengeance is in my heart and the year of my redeemed is come from whence we see that Christ is not only to take the Kingdomes of the whole World into his hands but also to trample the wicked as ashes under the soles of his feet and so I pass to the second reason Reason 2. Because the Lord hath said that the destruction of the Assyrian viz. the man of sin or Antichrist shall be like the slaughter of Midian at the Rock Orib Isa 10.24 25 26. Therefore thus saith the Lord God of Hosts O my people that dwell in Zion be not afraid of the Assyrian he shall smite thee with a Rod and shall lift up his staff against thee after the manner of Egypt for yet a very little while and the indignation shall cease and mine anger in their destruction and the Lord of Hosts shall stir up a scourge for him according to the slaughter of Midian at the Rock Orib now that you may understand what that slaughter was you may read Judg. 7.22 Where we find that the Lord set every mans hand against his brother so that they destroyed each other with a very great slaughter and so it will be in the day of the Lord for when they see the great unavoydable judgments which shall overtake them and that the mountains will be too narrow a covering for them then will their indignation be kindled one against another so as to destroy each other as you may see from that type in the dayes of Gideon and also from the words of the Prophet Ezek. 38.18 19 20 21 22. which saith it shall come to pass at the same time when Gogg shall come up against the Land of Israel saith the Lord God that my fury shall come up in my face For in my jealousie and in the fire of my wrath have I spoken Surely in that day shall there be a great shaking in the Land of Israel So that the fish of the Sea and the fouls of the heaven and the beasts of the field and all creeping things that creepeth upon the earth and all men that are upon the face of the earth shall shake at my presence and the mountains shall be thrown down and the steep places shall fall and every wall shall fall to the ground And I will call for a sword against him thorow all my mountains saith the Lord God every mans sword shall be against his brother And I will plead against him with pestilence and with blood and I will rain upon him and upon his bands and upon the many people that are with him an overflowing rain and great hailstones fire and brimstome Thus will I magnifie wy self and so forth from these words with the Prophet Zach. 14.13 We may see that there will be a very great slaughter upon Gogg and his Army at the time when the Lord Christ shall dispossess him of his great power and authority and it will be like to that slaughter of Gideon which was called the sword of the Lord and the sword of Gideon Judg. 7.18 Reason 3. That there is to be such a great slaughter is clear because it is to be like the great slaughter of Jehoshaphat upon Moab Ammon and Mount Seir 2 Chron. 20.22 23 24. which was a very great slaughter as you may read in the fore cited text and that this slaughter was a type of the slaughter that shall be at the time when Christ shall take the Kingdome you may see what Joel saith to this Joel 3.1 12 13. For behold in those dayes and in that time when I shall bring again the Captivity of Judah and Jerusalem I will gather all Nations and will bring them down unto the valley of Jehoshaphat and will plead with them there let the heathen be awakned and come up to the valley of Jehoshaphat for there will I sit to Judge the heathen round about proclaim ye amongst the Gentiles prepare war beat your Plowshears into swords and your pruning hooks into spears put you in the sickle for the harvest is ripe and the Angel thrust in his sickle into the earth and gathered the vine of the earth and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God and the winepress was troden without the City and blood came out of the winepress even to the horse bridles by the space of a thousand and six hundred furlongs Revel 14.19 20. From whence we may see that there is to be a very great slaughter in and amongst the Army of Gogg and Magog I could cite many such like texts only time suffereth me not but I pass to the fourth reason Reason 4. Because it is to
the Kings of Sheba and Seba shall offer gifts yea all Kings shall fall down before him all nations shall serve him his name shall be for ever Name signifieth authority his name shall be continued as long as the Sun and the whole earth shall be filled with his glory Amen Psal 62.1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12. This whole Psalm with many more speaks fully of this thing and how can it be imagined that the Babylonion and Pertian and Gretian and Roman Monarchs should continue so long and Christs Kingdome that the Scripture speaks most of which is to be the Kingdome under the whole Heavens should remain so little a while as some do Imagine to what end is it for him to take his great power and to raign if it be for such a small time as one day according as a day is in our account no doubtless it is to be for a thousand years at the least Secondly We understand the six dayes vocation of Gods work doth hold forth and teach us that the continuation of the World is to be for six thousand years it being considered that a day with the Lord is as a thousand years only the dayes to be shortned for the elects sake and the seventh day which was Gods rest from his labour and the year of Jubilee to be understood to figure out unto us the seven thousand years which is to be the time of Christs Kingdome and the glorious rest that we are to labour to enter in to Thirdly It appears to be a large time because the families of the earth are to come up to worship this great King the Lord of Hosts Isa 66. Zach. 14. Mich. 4. and the Lord is to be their teacher and he is to make war at that time to cease to the ends of the earth and he is to be one and his name one at that time and to govern the nation upon the earth all which things bespeaks more time than a moment or one natural dayes time Fourthly It further appears that the time will not be short because in the time of Christs Kingdome his will shall be done in earth as it is done in heaven when the Tabernacle of God shall be with men and he dwell with them as the time is at hand when it will be so and the earth shall be full of the Knowledge of the Lord as the waters cover the Sea time would fail me to speak of these things in particular and therefore I shall omit it at present and more especially because there are many in this nation would assist me with their help in this point of Christs Kingdom if it should lie at the stake for want of proof and that makes me the more sparing for I could thorow Gods assistance speak more largely about the same point but because of the reasons before mentioned I have only given thee what lyeth before me in my understanding and leave the most serious perusal of things until a future and greater occasion offereth it self unto me and at present shall only speak a few words to the estate and condition of the wicked in the day of the Lord and in the time of his Kingdome which is First as concerning the coming of Christ we find that the greatest part of men shall be gathered together to make up that company of Gogg and Magog and we may read what will become of them when the Vine of the earth is reaped and cast into the great Winepress of God and trod without the gates of Jerusalem that blood shall come out to the horse bridle and Joel and Ezekiel speaks largly of that and more of it Revel 19.1 And although time admits not of writing the words of the several texts yet peruse them at thy leasure as thou mayest find them written Isa 63.1 2 3 4. Ezek. 39. to the sixteen verse Joel 3.11 12 13. Revel 14.18 19 20. Chap. 16.16 ARMAGEDDON a place of slaughter Chap. 19.17 18 19 20. From these and many more which might be cited the which elsewhere I have cited we may see that a very great multitude will be slain at the very time when Christ shall take his Kingdome although a few shall be affrighted and give glory to God but the next or that which remains is to speak somewhat of the rest which are not slain and First we cannot conclude any of them in a state of Salvation or any grace to be offered to them that are wicked and refuse the tender of the Gospel save them few above written because when Christ cometh he that then is holy shall be holy still and he that then is filthy shall then be filthy still Revel 22.11 12. Secondly the great Antichrist shall cause all unless the sanctifyed ones and some few elect that shall escape him to receive a mark in their right hand or forehead and they that escape the sword which received his mark they shall be tormented day and night and they shall have such curses as I spake of not long before concerning the sinner that remained so till he come to be a sinner an hundred years old But paradventure some may say There is some that have not heard of Christs fame shall at that time be sent to that they may see his glory Isa 66.19 Answ There are some that shall escape the Man of sin and not receive his mark as Edom and Moab and the chief of the children of Ammon Dan. 11.41 And Moab shall be an hiding place to Israel in that day these shall be sent to Tarshish and pull and lug that they that by reason of being remote have not heard these shall have a day of grace offered in the time of Christs raign and also the children that are in their non-age but the Sons of those that have afflicted Gods people shall come bending unto them and in brief thus as the wicked shall be broken like a Potters Vessel at the coming of Christ even so those that in their generations come not up to worship the Lord Christ in the time of his Kingdome shall be bond-slaves to Israel and at last perish in the manner before spoken of so in the time of Christs Kingdome there will be some sinners though not of the Jews and their Judgment will be great and at last when the Devil is loosed at the end of the thousand years there will be such a seed for him to work upon as in fore time and then he shall befool them perswade them that they may break off their yoak from off their neck and not be captivated but may themselves conquer and raign and so shall come up to Jerusalem thinking to besiege it and take it and then fire shall come down from God out of Heaven and destroy them and this bringeth in the resurrection of the unjust namely the last and general resurrection the eternal Judgment then when all Rulers and authority is put down even the very last enemy which
page 64 to page 75. M Of Mans Mortality and how far page 35. to page 51. O Original Sin and what punishment it brought upon Adam and his posterity page 27. to page 34. And how all the Statutes and Ordinances of the Lord Jesus are perpetuated and to remain practicable to the Worlds end page 106. to page 118. Of Objections against the perpetuity of some of Christs Ordinances Answered page 119. to page 181. Q Of several Queries Answered page 209. to page 216. R Of the Resurrection of the Body page 51. to page 63. Of the Raign of our blessed Saviour with his Saints upon Earth page 76. to page 99. S Sprinkling proved not to be Baptism for several Reasons page 3. to page 5. W Of the Womans Travelling and bringing forth the Man-child and who it is and of her flight into the Wilderness and what Wilderness it is and how long she shall remain there and of the Persecution of the Remnant of her Seed and who they be page 181. to 200. Of the two Witnesses Prophesying and who they are page 200. to 208. ERRATA PAge 3 4 5. read Anon for Canaan p. 15 l. 27 r. fall f. full p. 36. l. 13 r. Job 14.7 c. f. John 4. p. 38 l. 11 r. God f. Christ p. 38 l. 34 r. infused f. Inferred p. 39 l. 7 r. God f. Christ Jesus p. 94. l. 9 r. John f. Jesus p. 121 l. 25 r. how f. though p. 132 l. 31 r. there f. the p. 133. l. 16 r. should p. 139 l. 7 p 141 l. 17 18. add this although the outward Court was taken and the City trod under foot yet no man could enter into the Temple to deface it p. 145 l. 17 r. not utterly destroyed although defaced and trampled upon p. 146 l. 29 r. naturally p. 148 l. 1 r. brought in p. 150 l. 28 r. false f. face p. 153 l. 21 r. marvellous p. 157 l. 25 r. order f. word p. 158 l. 13 r. Babellish f. established p. 161 l. 30 r. Iohn only excepted p. 165 l. 10 r. Mystery f. Ministry p. 174 l. 1 r. Jayl f. vail p. 175 l. 16 r. was not the Church p. 176 l. 24. 30 r. shoke f spoke p. 182 l. 27 r. Jayl f. Valey p. 197 l. 1 r. Edom p. 211 l. 13 add such p. 213 l. 26 r. dissolution f. desolation p. 215 r. came not Mend in thy reading some other places for I would have perused it more nicely and mended some other small faults and Parenthesi's but wanted time Truth and Innocency Prevailing against Error and Insolency SIR I Am come to the Examination and Tryal of that which you call Truths Conflict with Error and find it to be no other but Error and Insolency striving against Truth and Innocency as will appear to the impartial Reader when he compares your pretended Answer with my former Book but indeed as for an Answer to my Book it is none as I before have said for the greatest part of it is but a writing over again what you have formerly written and is already answered and therefore I shall be brief in the Answer because Tautolligies suit not with my spirit Answ And first I take notice that you see your self at a loss by granting that Christ's Baptism was by plunging in water because I have said That if Christ's Baptism were by Dipping or Plunging and he left us an Example that we should follow his steps then we ought also to be dipped or plunged but you say I read the Sentence in your parenthesis amiss may you not be ashamed so to say seeing it is plain to be read in your Book your words are these Christ only was plunged with the Spirit receiving it without measure so was his water Baptism these are your very words with your parenthesis pag. 3. lin 2. and so I leave him that reads to judge whether you do not confess that Christ's water Baptism was the same with the Baptism of the Spirit which you say was by plunging Object And whereas you say That Christ went up into the mountain and yet not covered in the earth and so he went into the water and yet not covered with it Answ To which I Answer and say That it is not said that Christ was Baptized in the Mountain but it is said that he was Baptized in the Water and so it was said of Philip and the Eunuch But it will he granted that Christ might go many times into the water and yet not be covered in it but it cannot be imagined that John could dip or plunge or over-whelm or sink as the word Baptizo will render it Christ into the water and yet Christ not covered in water And besides all this the proper signification of Baptism is a Burial and Resurrection as I before have shewed yet notwithstanding I shall give a few Reasons here to prove that Baptism is dipping or plunging And the first Reason is Reas 1. Because the word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 or 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 rendereth no other thing as a proper derivation but mergo or immergo which is to dip to plunge to overwhelm to thrust into the water or to sink and such like words as these which sheweth that the person Baptized is to be covered in water Reas 2. Secondly Christ was so baptized namely plunged as you have affirmed in your former Book and we are to follow his examples therefore are to be covered as Christ was in Baptism Reas 3. And Thirdly it signifieth a Burial as saith the Apostle Paul Rom. 2.4 Col. 2.12 and a man cannot be said to be buried unless he be covered with earth or the like Object And this brings me to the Answer of your Objection p. 7. where you say That Christ was buried in a rock and had no earth to cover him and therefore it cannot be proved say you that persons baptized must be covered in the water Answ To which I Answer and say That Christ was covered is clear for his body was put into a new Sepulcher and a stone rowled against the door or mouth of the Sepulcher for in that age it was usual to bury the dead in Sepulchers which are as our Graves and that his body was covered is evident because when Mary came early in the morning to the Sepulcher although the stone was rowled away from the mouth yet she was fain to stoop down to look into it to see whether she could see Jesus implying that the earth covered him out of her sight but I need not trouble my self to prove that which is so clear for the Scripture saith although I suppose you had forgot it That as Jonah was three dayes and three nights in the Whales belly so shall the Son of man be three dayes and three nights in the heart of the earth Matth. 12.40 So then as Jonah was covered in the Whales belly so was the Son of man covered in the heart of the earth from whence
you may see that the Sepulcher which you speak of was not wood but earth and so Christ was buried and covered in the heart of the earth So then Persons baptized must be covered in water or otherwise no signification of burial in Baptism And so I pass to the fourth Reason to prove baptism to be dipping or plunging into the water Reas 4. Because Baptism is figuratively represented by much water and not by a little which implyeth the person baptized ought to be dipped or plunged so as to be covered in water as the waters of Noah And John abiding in Canaan Baptizing because there was much water saith the Text to which you adde these two Objections Object 1. First That if the waters of Noah was baptism then the ungodly World was Baptized for plunged and covered they were and perished and so the perishing Creatures were Baptized Answ To which I Answer and say The text doth not say that Noahs water was Baptism but a figure of Baptism Secondly It is not denyed that the same water that is said to save the eight Souls which were in the Ark was the same that drowned them which was out of the Ark which sheweth that the water in Baptism must not be small for that is said to be a figure of Baptism but sufficient to cover the Persons baptized That which we may learn from these sayings is this and so I pass That as the waters saved those in the Ark and drowned them that were out of the Ark even so Baptism being figuratively represented in it saveth and cleaneth instrumentally all those that have Faith and so be in Christ the Ark of safety and also destroyeth all that attempt it which beleeve not or are not in Christ by Faith and so the Ordinances of Christ to one are the savour of life unto life and to the other the savour of death unto death therefore take this word of Caution Take heel how and to whom you administer Baptism let them first appear to you that they are in the Ark which is to say let the persons Baptized first make it appear to you by some visible demonstration that they have Faith in Christ otherwise you see that you take a direct way to ruinate them therefore I say take heed And so I pass to the next thing which is Object John did abide at Canaan to baptize because there was much water there But say you The much water is not to be understood deep water but broad and shallow so that an Infant could not be covered in it and that John did abide there because his Disciples might see him administer that Ordinance better than under the shadowing Banks of Jordan And this is the Reason saith my Antagonist That John did abide at Canaan not that the waters were convenient that is to say deep to cover the Person baptized but because there was a convenient prospect whereby his Disciples might see the manner of this administring of the Ordinance Answ To which I Answer and say That this kind of reasoning seems to me to be strange perverting of the Scripture for the Scripture saith That John abode at Canaan to baptize because there was much water or it may be read abundance of water or deep water from the word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 But you say That the reason why he tarried there to baptize was because there was a convenient prospect that his Disciples might see him baptize clear contrary to what the Scripture saith And if that were the Reason as you say then he might have taken a Pitcher of Water into the Mountain if sprinkling would have served the turn for a Pitcher of water would have baptized very many with your kind of Baptism and the Mountain had been a better prospect than the Valley Secondly Canaan is the same water viz. the River Jordan and takes its Name Canaan from the Name of the Village Canaan that stood by the River of Jordan as you may see if you look into the Map of that Country And so it is now that one and the same River bears many Names by reason of the adjacent Villages and Towns that stand by the side of it and the River called by the same Name This being considered the River or Water of Canaan was not shallow but deep for the swelling Waves of Jordan were great and this is the same River as before-said Again Thirdly it is clear that John Baptized Men and Women there which should be read if it were truly translated that John dipped Men and Women there and if so you and your Authors must be false which say it was not deep enough to dip an Infant and so I leave this Objection and the Reasons to prove Baptism to be Dipping although I might adde many more The Reasons in short you see are these First Because the word Baptism being truly translated is to dip properly and such like words as before-mentioned Secondly Because Christ was dipped or plunged and we engaged to follow his example Thirdly Baptism signifies Christs Burial and he was covered in the heart of the earth Fourthly and Lastly the Scripture saith That John did tarry and Baptize at Canaan because there was much water signifying to us that much water is requisite in Baptism whereby the person baptized may be conveniently dipped or plunged so as to be covered in the water And so I come to the Second Thing which is The Discourse of the Subject which is to be Baptized whether Beleeving Men and Women or Infants To which I say The Scripture will resolve the Doubt if we well examine them who are the Subjects to be Baptized and therefore I shall at present lay down these Two Positions and give you Scripture Reasons to prove them Position 1. The First is That those that are the Disciples of Christ viz. Beleeving Men and Women may and ought to be Baptized Position 2. And Secondly That Infants as such may not be Baptized And first to the First to prove that such as are Disciples namely Beleevers may and ought to be Baptized And the first Reason is Reason 1. Because the great Law-giver Christ Jesus hath taught us in his last Will and Testament to make Disciples and Baptize them that are so made as in Matth. 28.18 19. Go teach all Nations and baptize them or as the Original rendereth it from these words 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Go Disciplize or make Disciples in all Nations and baptize THEM c. From whence we may cleerly see that it was the Mind and Will of Christ that they only should be Baptized that were first taught and made Disciples and that Infants are not here in the least included is plain because they are not capable to be taught but those that were commanded there to be baptized were capable of being taught therefore could not be Infants Secondly Infants are not capable to bear the name Disciple because Christ saith in Luke 14.26 27. That whosoever denieth not himself and
and possess the kingdome together and raign under Heaven and if it be under heaven then it doth necessarily follow that it will be upon earth and this text agreeth with that which is spoken by Dan. 2.34 44. in these words Thou sawest till a stone was cut out without hands which smote the Image upon his feet that were of Iron and clay and brake them in pieces and in the dayes of these Kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdome which shall never be destroyed and the kingdome shall not be left unto another people but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms and shall stand for ever And the stone shall become a great mountain and fill the whole EARTH verse 35. which meaneth Christ and his people from whence we may see that the Kingdome that Daniel speaks of is to be upon earth because he saith it was to fill the whole earth so then Christ and the Saints are to receive a Kingdome and to raign upon earth Reas 2. Secondly the second reason to prove that Christ and the Saints shall receive a Kingdom and raign upon earth is Because the Scripture saith that Christ and the Saints shall rule the Nations with a Rod of Iron and bruse them like a Potters vessel the which cannot be unless Christ and the Saints receive a Kingdome and raign upon earth for if the received opinion be true that all shall arise together at the last day and at a moment or in a short time one go to Heaven and the other to Hell how then can Christ and the Saints then rule the Nations with a Rod of Iron and bruse them like a Potters vessel for so long as the Saints live in this world they must expect to suffer for Christ and the Gospels sake as saith Saint Paul and Daniel and indeed many Prophets and Apostles that thorow many tribulations we shalt enter into the kingdome of God yea every one that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution and as Daniel saith The same Horn viz. Antichrist made warr with the Saints and overcame them until the Judgment was set and the time came that the Saints were to possess the Kingdome Dan. 7.21 25. Acts 14.22 2 Tim. 3.12 And indeed the nigher to the end there shall be bating one another and betraying one another and the People of God shall be hated of all men for Christs name sake and as Christ saith in this world you shall have tribulation for if they have persecuted me they will also persecute you and this was the portion of the primitive Saints and will be the portion of the l●st also therefore in this corrupt body they do not raign but the wicked rule them with rigour but there is a time that Christ and the Saints shall raign over them and rule them with a rod of Iron and bruse them like a Potters vessel which shews that Christ and the Saints are to receive a Kingdome and raign upon earth Now that they are to rule all Nations read Psal 2.8 9. compared with Rev. 2.26 27. in Psal 2. the words are these Thou art my son this day have I begotten thee ask of me and I will give thee the heathen for thy inheritance and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession Thou shalt break them with a Rod of Iron and than shalt dash them in pieces like a Potters vessel Thus you see the honour and dignity that God hath given to his Son namely to rule the Nations with a Rod of Iron and this very honour hath Christ given to the Saints as you may read Rev. 2.26 27. in these words He that overcometh and keepeth my works to the end I will give him power over the Nations and he shall rule them with a Rod of Iron and burse them like a potters vessel even as I have received of my Father Here we see the Scripture saith that Christ and the Saints shall rule the Nations with a Rod of Iron which sheweth that Christ and the Saints shall receive a Kingdome and raign upon earth And so I pass to the third reason why Christ and his Saints shall receive a Kingdome and raign upon the earth which is Reas 3. Because the Scripture saith that Christ and the Saints shall inherit the earth now to live on the earth and to have it or possess it as their own inheritance are two things for Abrahams slaves lived in Canaan but they had not the land in possession so was Abraham a sojourner in the land that afterwards he was to receive for an inheritance or possession even so it is with us we are strangers and sojourners in the earth as was our fathers and yet shall have it given into our hands for an inheritance when it is restored into its glory I do not say we shall have no more mistake not For otherwise the first Adam lost some happiness or soverainty that Christ never restores but that Christ and the Saints shall inherit the earth read these Scriptures diligently which saith He viz. Christ shall come down as rain upon the new mown grass as showers that watereth the earth and in that day shall the righteous flowrish and abundance of peace so long as the Moon endureth his dominion shall be from Sea to Sea from the rivers unto the ends of the earth Thus Christ shall come down and inherit the earth They that dwell in the wilderness shall bow before him and his enemies shall lick the dust yea all Kings shall fall down before him all Nations shall serve him Hence we see that Christ is to inherit the earth and the Nations to serve him and now you shall see that the Saints shall inherit the earth also and that Kings shall bow before them and they shall bind them in chains and fetters of Iron for so saith the Scripture Blessed are the meek for they shall inherit the earth and the high praises of God be in their mouths and a two edged sword in their hands to execute vengeance upon the heathen and punishment upon the people to bind their Kings with chains and their Nobles with fetters of Iron to execute upon them the Judgment written this honour hath all the Saints mark that praise ye the Lord therefore wait upon God and keep his wayes and he will exalt thee to inherit the earth when the wicked are cut off thou shalt see it For yet a little while and the wicked shall not be viz. bear rule but the meek shall inherit the earth and delight themselves in the abundance of peace for evil doers shall be cut off but those that wait upon the Lord shall inherit the earth Hence we see that Christ and the Saints are to inherit the earth and to exercise authority in government over Kings and this honour is not peculiar to a few of the Saints only but it belongs to all of them even to the beggar upon the dunghil for this honour hath ALL
9. the duties of charity all these are acknowledged by you to be perpetuated and to remain Secondly the other number as 1 Confirmation 2 Ordination 3 Church-Censure 4 Church-stating these are corrupted and are ceased as you say and which of these is the greatest number I leave the wise to judge from whence they may see that the two Pipes should not parallel with the perpetuated Ordinances and therefore shall leave them as excellent in their proper place and signification but altogether of an uncertain sound as they have been applyed not fit for persons to dance after and thus I leave this particular and come to speak somewhat to the four Winds Revel 7.1 The four Winds saith Mr. Henden Page 4. Is to be understood the Winds of the Spirit the begetting and preserving cause of these visible keyes before spoken of where by reason of the falling away were wholly with-held from their apparent blast and the cause failing the effects must also cease These four Angels we conceive to be evil Spirits working by their principal Ministers the four capital Patryarchs of the Christian World to wit the Bishop of Alexandria for the South of Antioch for the East of Constantinople for the North and Rome for the West who usurping all ecclesiastical government into their hands did by their contention and pride gradually detain the four Winds from breathing in the external regement till at the last the head-ship fell into Rome Page 29. Answ There is many things laid down the which I shall speak to in particular and that very briefly because I am much straitned for time and also I think there is so little coulour of truth in it that few will believe it whether I speak any thing to it yea or nay but because I would not willingly miss any thing that seems of weight in your eye I shall examine the particulars and first to the first which is The four Winds spoken of Revel 7.1 Is the Winds of the Spirit saith Mr. Henden In Answer to this I shall cite the Text and speak little to it but leave the Reader to Judge see the Text Revel 7.1 in these words And After these things I saw four Angels standing on the four corners of the Earth holding the four Winds of the EARTH that the Wind should not blow upon the Earth nor on the Sea nor on any green Tree From these words we may take notice that the four Winds are called the Winds of the EARTH mark that and wherever the Spirit of the Lord or the breathings forth of his Spirit is called by the name of the four Winds of the Earth I never yet read although I have examined Ezek. 1.4 5. chap. 37.9.14 Acts 2.2 The which none of the places run parallel with Revelations 7.1 They are not called the four Winds of the Earth as for Exekiels vision chap. the first Ezekiel saw the Heavens opened it was not the four Winds of the Earth no but a whirle-wind and a cloud from the OPEN HEAVENS North-ward in the which whirle-wind the Lord appeared to Ezekiel between the sour living creatures which were Cherubims and we know it is usual for the Lord to appear in a whirle-wind between the Cherubims that those living creatures spoken of in Ezek. 1.5 were Cherubims and that the Lord dwelleth between or amongst the Cherubims is clear from chap. 10. compared with 1 Sam. 4.4 2 Kings 19.15 Psal 80.1 and 99.1 And that which is spoken obscurely in the first chap. of Ezekiel is more plainly expounded in Chap 10. where the living creatures spoken of in Chap. 1. are called Cherubims in Chap. 10.20 in these words This is the living creature that I saw under the God of Israel by the River Chebar and I knew that they were Cherubims Time would fail me to open the matter contained in the vision and the end of it but enough to prove that it relates not at all to the four Winds spoken of in Revel 7. Secondly as to the Winds spoken of in Ezek. 37.9 I say that its only used by way of allusion because our lives are called wind Job 7.7 and Israel being in captivity and so as dead men the Lord sheweth the Prophet Ezekiel that he would revive them and recover them out of their captivity and bring them again into their own Land vers 21. and also we may observe that they must first have the breath of life and be brought out of their graves which breath of life to raise them from their graves was to come from the four Winds and then after this they were to be brought into their own Land and the Spirit of God was not to be poured out upon them while they were in captivity but after they were come into their own Land at a set time Zech. 12.9 10 11. which sheweth that Wind spoken of there was not that Spirit which you aim at which if it were yet it holds no agreement with the text cited by you Revel 7.1 because it is not called the Winds of the Earth for there is the Winds of the Earth and there is the Winds of Heaven Dan. 8.8 Chap. 11.4 Zech. 2.6 Mat. 24.31 Revel 7.1 Thirdly To the Text cited by you Acts 2.2 in these words And suddenly there came a sound FROM Heaven as of a rushing mighty wind c. from these words we may see that this Wind came from HEAVEN and so was not that Wind spoken of in Revel 7. Because that was the four Winds of the EARTH mark that Fourthly it doth not say that there came a Wind from Heaven and sate upon each of them but cloven tongues which sate upon each of them and the sound was like unto a mighty rushing Wind it doth not say it was a Wind that blew but there was heard a sound as it were a mighty rushing Wind so then the sound of it was as it were or like a Wind and every likeness is not the same but why need I keep such a stir about this Wind I remember Mr. Henden saith in his 28. Page and line 19 20. that the with-holding the Winds of the Spirit hurt not the elect his words are these all save the elect were hurt thereby and subverted From whence we now learn from what Mr. Henden saith in this place that it was from the reprobate that the Winds of the Spirit was with-held from blowing on them This is that I understand from his words if I understand him aright unless there be a third sort of men that is to say the elect and reprobate and another sort which is neither elect nor reprobate and if this be Mr. Hendens opinion viz. that the with-holding of the Winds of the Spirit did not hurt the elect but the reprobate then one of us have fought as it were with our own shadow for it was ever my judgment since I knew any thing of God that Gods holy Spirit was ever with-held from the reprobate they having no part or portion in
Quer. 10. Whether shall the desolation of the Heavens spoken by Peter be at the time of his coming to raign or at the time when the thousand years shall be expired at the bringing in of the general judgment Answ It appears clearly from the Scriptures that Jesus Christ at his first coming to receive the Kingdome and to raign upon earth that then he is to come in flaming fire so as fiery streams shall issue forth from before him and that many of the ungodly shall perish by the flame and some by the baile and the like and also that he is to abide in the Heavens until the times or years of the restoration of all things spoken by the mouth af all the holy Prophets since the World began and yet also we find that at the end of the thousand years that when the ungodly that shall spring up in the time of Christs raign shall come up against Jerusalem by the counsel of the Devil that then fire shall come down from God out of Heaven and devoure them so that in short I understand that the corruptions of the Heaven and earth shall be burnt up or destroyed or the Heavens and earth refined at Christs first coming and yet the work to be totally finished at the end because it is called TIMES in the plural number of restitution and TIMES of refreshing Dan. 7.10 2 Thes 1.7 8. Ezek. 38.22 Isa 66.15 16. Acts 3.19.20 21. 2 Pet. 3.10 11 12 13 14. Revel 20.9 Quer. 11. What is the new Heaven and new Earth and how shall they become new Answ The Heaven and the Earth is understood to be a new Heaven and a new Earth when the imperfection and corruption is taken away and so all things are to become new and that the corruption of both the Heavens and Earth shall be taken away so as that the Earth shall bring forth in abundance and the Heavens also far excel their brightness which they have now so that the light of the Moon shall be as the light of the Sun and the Sun shall be seven degrees better than what now she is read my Zions Redemption and you may see it proved to be glorious in the time of Christs raign in which time the Heavens and Earth shall be glorious Isa 30.24 25 26. cap. 65.17 18. cap 66.22 Quer. 12. Whether the new Heavens and new Earth and restoration shall be at Christs coming to raign upon Earth Answ The Heavens are to retain Christ until the times of restoration as I before have said so that the beginning of the work is immediately so soon as Christ comes and so to increase and grow more stronger and excellenter as now the Earth the things therein grow older and older and weaker and weaker Isa 9.7 chap. 29.19 Ezek. 36.27 28 29 30. Quer. 13. Whether or no shall Christ and the Saints raign for ever upon the Earth or not Answ It appears that Christ and the Saints shall not raign for ever because there is a time when the mediatour-ship shall be given up into the hands of the Father when the Son shall be in subjection unto him so as to lay down his government unto him and yet it shall be for ever in one sense that is for ever so long as there shall be a Nation upon earth to raign over but as for their scituation and abode I understand it shall be for ever in the new Jerusalem that cometh down from Heaven which is and for ever will be the Tabernacle of God which then shall remain in the Land of Canaan and so the Tabernacle of God to be with man and he for ever dwell with them for I do not find that the new Jerusalem shall be again removed 1 Cor. 15.24 25 26 27 28. Revel 21.1 2 3 4 5 6 7. Chap. 3.12 Quer. 14. If Christ and the Saints shall remain for ever in the new Jerusalem upon the earth where shall the Devil and man of sin with the wicked of the World be punished Answ It appears from the Scripture as though that the Land of Canaan were to remain for ever as the new Heaven and new Earth Isa 65.17 18 19. and that the punishment of the wicked should be without the gates or diases of the Land even in Babylon Caldea and Idumea and the like read Isa 34.4 5 to the 10. Ezek. 35.14 15. Isa 47.14 chap. 51.19 Revel 18.2 Quer. 15. Whether will Christ render vengeance to all the ungodly besides the perpetual torments that he will cast them into at the end of the thousand years Answ It appears that there are some that shall have only their power taken from them and their lives to be prolonged for a season Dan. 7.12 and also although great judgments shall fall upon the wicked yet there will a seed remain of them which shall be reserved to be destroyed at the end of the thousand years Isa 14.29 30. Revel 20 9. Quer. 16. Whether the punishment of the wicked be everlasting after the sentence is past at the general judgment Answ It appears to be everlasting although I know there be some that suppose a redemption out of Hell from the words of Christ Mat. 5.26 which saith Thou shalt by no means come from thence till thou hast paid the utmost farthing This place intends no such thing but is rather literally to be understood but if by prison there spoken of we may understand Hell yet it will not follow there is to be a redemption out of Hell as some suppose for the word until sometimes is never to be as it is said that Samuel came no more to see Saul until the day of his death 1 Sam. 15.35 And he cannot then but suppose the word until should prefix a set time yet the Text saith that thou shalt not come from thence until thou hast paid the utmost farthing and suppose a man were cast into prison for five hundred pounds and had not five hundred pence nor in a capacity to gain while he lay in prison if he should not come from thence till he had paid the utmost farthing he could never come out and such is the condition of the wicked that as their debt is very great even so they are in an incapacity to gain when they are in Hell whereby to pay their debt and none can pay it for them Psal 49.7 8. And so if they must pay the utmost farthing it will never be paid no the punishment of the wicked is everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord where the worm shall not die nor the fire be quenched 2 Thes 1.8 Isa 66 24. Quer 17. When can it be truly said according to 1 Cor. 15.22 That in Adam all dyed when it is plain that Enoch was translated so as not to taft of death with Elijah and Iohn chap. 21.23 Answ Whereas the Text 1 Cor. 15.22 saith that as in Adam all dyed even so in Christ shall all be made alive All in Scripture is often taken for the Major part and not every individual person for we know that many shall be changed at the coming of Christ and be caught up to meet him and so was Enoch changed or translated which is all one as death but that which is spoken by St. Paul 1 Cor. 15.22 saying As in Adam all dyed even so in Christ shall all be made alive It is to be thus understood that so many as did die by Adams sin was made alive by Christs obedience and raised from the dust finally every particular person must die or be changed for this corruptable body cannot enter into the Kingdome of God but must first put on incorruption and immortality and this change had Enoch and as for Elijah and Iohn I have before shewed what will befal them when they have accomplished their prophesie and thus leaving this Query I shall pass to the next and last which is Quer. 18. If Christ be the first fruits of them that sleep that is to say the first that is to arise from the dead how is it then that some Saints did arise at the time of Christs sufferings Answ Those Saints that were seen to come out of their graves and enter into the holy City was after the resur●ction of Christ and not at his sufferings Mat. 27 53. So then Christ was the first which was raised from the dead I could have spoken somewhat more to this and other things but time fails me and as for the other particulars mentioned in thy letter I have spoken unto them in my Book as Objections and such occasions have offered themselves and therefore have no more at present to say unto thee only exhorting thee to stand fast in the faith and profession of the Gospel for dear Brother as thou well knowest the portion of the godly is to suffer tribulation for Christ and the Gospel sake because thorow many tribulations we must enter into the Kingdome of God for they that are born after the flesh will persecute such as are born after the spirit for so it was and is and will be unto the end and it shall come to pass that those that kill the godly shall think that they do God service but however let us know that all things shall work together for good to those that love God and that the end is a crown of life to such as are faithful unto the death and then it will be the time that God will recompence tribulation to them that trouble his people that it had been good for them that they had never been born or that a milstone hanged about their neck and they cast into the depth of the Sea than to offend the friends of Iesus Christ finally he that soweth in tears shall reap in joy and he that goeth forth weeping bearing precious seed shall doubtless return rejoycing with everlasting joy upon his head and all sighing and sorrow shall flee away and for their shame they shall have double and for their confusion they shall rejoyce in their portion for in their land double everlasting joy shall be their portion FINIS