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A84758	Dæmonium meridianum. Satan at noon. Or, Antichristian blasphemies, anti-scripturall divelismes, anti-morall uncleanness, evidenced in the light of truth, and published by the hand of justice. Being, a sincere and impartiall relation of the proceedings of the commissioners of the county of Berks. Authorized by the ordinance for ejection, against John Pordage, late minister of Bradfield, in the same county. Published for the vindication of justice, and satisfaction of the conscientious, in the name, and by the order of the said commissioners and assistants. With some notes, and animadversions upon a book of the said John Pordage, initiuled, Innocency appearing, &c. / By Christopher Fowler, minister of the gospel at S. Maries in Reding.	Fowler, Christopher, 1610?-1678.	1655 (1655)	Wing F1692; Thomason E840_1; ESTC R207466	137,560	179

kingdome of heaven you are of the last sort you were not born so and you were not made so of men but you have made your self so but we tell you again you ignorantly if not wickedly pervert the text for the text is meant of the unmarried nay the very drift of the chapter from the first verse to the ninth is to confirm the bond of marriage as indissoluble against the Pharisees what doth this concern you that have a wife and seven or eight children 9. You are most unhappy in your Marginall text to 1 Cor. 7.38 let them that marry be as though they married not do you think the meaning of the Apostle is that man and wife should not dwell together as man and wife but live as you pretend you and Mrs Pordage have done as though you were not man and wife It is clear that in this you and Mrs Pordage are no more then you and Mrs Flavell 10. Why do you say Christ was born of a Virgin and lived in virginity Christus non duxit uxorem ejus actio est nostra instructio said the Gnostick● Respondet Clemens conjugium Christus approbavit doctrina miraculis Chem. exam par 3. leaving us an example was that the reason why he did come When we think of the infinity and glory of the Lord Christ how unsuitable marriage was to him and how his work was to give up his soul a ransome we cannot but admire at the blindnesse of this Dr who still is driving at this that Christ is but a type Why do you say that you had two spirituall worlds discovered to you and apply to these worlds that text Heb. 1.2 By whom also he made the world were the worlds in that verse made by Christ your mundi Idaeales your phantasticall worlds at Bradfield pittifull ignorance 11. Why do you quote that text Heb. 5.14 but strong meat belongs to those that are of full age and have their sences exercised to discern both good and evil and wretchedly apply it to your spirituall sensation as you call it and the opening of your inward sences to see cloven feet and dragons is this the meaning of the holy spirit 12. You say among the devils you saw principalities powers dignities and you say this is answerable to the text Eph. 6.12 Tell us who told you which was this and which that did any one point with a rod and say to your inward hearing there goes a prince there goes a power why do you force that text to palliate the matter and cheat your reader this text proves that the devils are by Gods just judgement rulers of this world but it doth not prove any government or princedome among themselves 13. To hasten You say you had an opening of the eternall world the kingdome prepared where you were as Paul once c. pag. 78 and you call it the world to come and quote for it Heb. 2.5 He hath not put in subjection to the Angels the world to come whereof we speak We do confesse this text is controverted Calvin understands it of the world restored by Christ our right being forfeited by sin Piscator of the mundus renovatus as in 2 Pet. 3.11 * So the Annotations on the New Test others of the gospel world because of the context But we conceive it is hardly sence to understand it as you do of the kingdome of glory for how alien and forreign is it to S. Pauls mind to read that text thus he hath not put in subjection to the Angels the kingdome of glory of which we now eak Though this might have passed for a small mistake in another yet in this Dr it is considerable because he pretends his hearing of the unutterable misteries of that kingdome and therefore his ignorance is observable we believe S. Pauls rapture but not his in the least by any means 14. In the same place you say that your divine transportation was agreeable to that of John 17.24 Father I will that those whom thou hast given me may be with me where I am that they may behold my glory What ignorance and wresting of the scripture is this was Christ with you in your chamber at Bradfield what did you behold of the glory of Christ there it is justly charged and fully proved and righteously sentenced against you that you have blasphemed that glory sc his Godhead and bloud and you do not tell us that in this third heaven you saw any thing of either is that sweet prayer to be understood of visions here on earth or of believers coming to and abiding in heaven with Christ for ever 15. So Heb. 10.19 is quoted by you to speak for your entrance into the eternall world by your visions but the text saith no such thing the text doth not say we have an entrance into the holiest by visions which are delusions but by the bloud of Jesus 16. What did you mean to call wisdome and quote for it Pro. 8.20 23. the eternall virgin See the last Annot. Assemb upon the text do you know what you say who is there meant by wisdome is it not Jesus Christ did he shew you the way that leads to the life of virginity to leave your wife why do you call him the eternall virgin is it not to possesse your people against marriage are you out of your wits 17. Why did you insultingly p. 103. charge Mr Trapham a godly person one of the Commissioners and now print him a man of mean intellectualls and why because he never heard of any other death and resurrection of Jesus Christ but at Jerusalem you pittifull ignoramus is not this true doth not the Apostle say Christ being risen from the dead dieth no more Rom. 6.9 and in that he died he died once and Christ was offered once not often Heb. 9. last Now if he died but once he rose but once and both these he did at Jerusalem You say that Mr Trapham never read or never understood these three texts First Heb. 6.6 You Dr is that text understood of backsliders reall crucifying Christ on earth or their wicked trampling and profaning of his bloud now he is in glory was this done by their hands or by their hearts The next you quote is Gal. 3.1 Is this text understood of a crucifying Christ indeed or the shewing forth of his death in the word and Sacraments doth not that very verse say that Christ was set forth amongst them and before whose eyes mark Dr not by whose hands and crucified amongst you not by you For the other text you quote about Christs rising Eph. 2.5 T is true Gods elect were quickened with Christ what then what do you conclude ergo did Christ rise in other places besides Jerusalem The truth is Mr Trapham was transported with a just indignation to hear this mans brother vent such Familisticall stuffe concerning the man child reported by himself to be born at Bradfield sc that this man child

cleaving of the soul but the fiery deity burning up our lusts and corruptions in the center of the soul Two other passages of blasphemy there were uttered by the Dr that were forgotten by Mr Tickhill the Deponent but after finding his paper he doth remember them and doth assert them as upon oath The first is this That God in Christ and Christ in the saints is the unity in trinity and trinity in unity The second is this That Christ in his preparatory coming by his fiery deity quite consumes and destroyes all sin and corruption which consuming of sin is that doing away of transgression mentioned Dan. 9.24 If it be said Mr Tickhill is severe and rigid and so prejudice may barre the door against truth then Secondly we request that this testimony witnessed and signed with Mr Pendarvis his own hand may be considered These are to certifie whom it may concern that in a sermon at Ildesly Dr Pordage did deliver these following expressions First That Christ was a figure and but a figure Secondly That the Godhead was mingled with our flesh Thirdly That the imputative righteousnesse of Christ was but a saplesse righteousnesse Fourthly the graces and gifts of the spirit were but flesh Fifthly That Dr Pordage did falsely accuse Mr Tickhill of coming on purpose to oppose him neither of us h This work of providence as it were speaking thus as now we see it come to passe yonder is a blasphemer hear him and discover him thought of his being there I went and he with me to preach upon the desire of the people what limitation us'd by the Dr or whether any I do not well remember Ita testor Joh. Pendarvis Second Particular To the second as to his witnesses here we do unfeignedly professe we are even fain to force our selves under much unwillingnesse to this part of the animadversion not that we regard any revilings and censure so as to be troubled but because we are willing to live in peace But because the matter of these articles charged and proved is of so high a concernment that all that is dear and p●ecious to souls in heaven and earth is imbarqued in it and because the Dr pretends visions and those of such height and glory as he calls them that the like have not been heard or seen and because his friends do intimate that these Angelicall visions are in order to the pure preaching of the gospel to the Church which hath been in Apostacy many hundred years and because he layes such a weight upon his witnesses Lastly because he hath published them to the world and named them often in the text and margent we think it a duty incumbent upon us to write the truth promising to deliver nothing but the truth and purposing not to write all the truth we might merely for quietnesse sake and to prevent family disturbance Truly it seems somewhat observable that Dr Pordage who hath enjoyed such visions of glory as he saith hath such high discoveries pretends to such a pitch of sanctity and mortification even to perfection Having so much acquaintance in London and in the Countrey and being under so high a charge as Blasphemy Devillisme Vncleannesse and ignorance that notwithstanding all this he should bring no more or no other witnesses in his behalf then he hath done And were it not that we desire to be serviceable to the publick we might have spared this pains we have no itch to be in print for the very consideration what manner of persons the witnesses are hath given no small satisfaction of the Drs guilt to all Christians hereabouts that know him and them The first witnesse for the Dr is Richard Higgs we purpose not to mention the many ill-complexioned and hard speeches which this man hath uttered against the ministry and maintenance This language now a daies passeth amongst many rather for a prime character of a godly man as they stile it then for any fault many and we speak it sadly to see them so befooled have little else to shew for their religion but their being scurrilous against Vniversities Ministers Learning and maintenance Do we speak for our selves in this or for the truth the Lord knows and our consciences know and the day will discover it So that the gospel religion learning might thrive prosper we should desire to be silent though we sate in the dust and whatever become of us or ours or them we can in some measure be contented so that the purity and power of the gospel may dwell in the land This man is brought in by the Dr as his chief witnesse he quotes him often and doth preface his testimony that he is a pious prudent and a learned Christian and therefore to be heeded by the people and believed by the Commissioners Thus he deposeth that he heard the Dr preach at Bradfield upon and for the imputative righteousnesse of Christ and this he attested with much confidence but now observe these particulars Being demanded by the Commissioners very often and earnestly to declare what he conceived the Dr did mean by Christs righteousnesse he would at no hand although he was upon his oath reveal it We were suspicious at first that there might be some ugly speckled toad lying under a wholsome sage leaf some wretched familisticall blasphemy under wholsome expressions nothing more common these late years past have discovered this practise more then many former generations and therefore we pressed him over and over seeing he had been a seven years hearer at times and a man intelligent and one that penned the sermons that he would tell what he conceived the Dr did understand by Christs imputative righteousnesse but there was no prevailing with him he would not tell Being further asked what he himself meant by Christs imputative righteousnesse he would not tell nor answer either this was his weaknesse that he could not tell or else his wilfulnesse that he would not If the first how grosse is his ignorance and how unfit his testimony if the second what unconscionablenesse is this he being sworn to speak the truth But it seems to be his ignorance for Being now prompted by the Dr from whom he confesseth he had the * This practise of the Dr l●oks very ill favoured for this is not the first time that he hath done so with his witnesses paper before he came prescribing what he should speak to say the righteousness of Christ was his active and passive obedience he did tell the Commissioners what he meant but being further asked what he meant by Christs active obedience he answered Christs death upon the Crosse This pitifull answer makes us who know his former profession think that the fiery Deity and visions of Bradfield and a typicall Christ are like to make this man to forget if not to slight the knowledge of Jesus Christ in the scripture and now we have mentioned that blessed book denyed by many and wofully neglected by most the reader

is not meritorious of any mans salvation The fourth article of the last charge That it was a poor thing to live upon the bloud of Christ and fetching it over again in a contemptuous kind of speaking Piff said he thou art a babe thou knowest nothing to live upon the bloud of Christ that is a poor thing Answer To the former of these articles being the fourth of the first charge the Dr gives no particular p And gives this reason in print viz. not being within the act against blasphemy Observe what use this man makes of that act in his printed answer he puts in the word only a notorious untruth pag. 43. studied on purpose to deceive He saith that Mr Tickhill did mistake which is not a mistake in the Dr b●t an impudent untruth answer His answers to the third and fourth articles of the last charge are as followeth viz. To the third I call heaven and earth to witnesse that such thoughts never entred into my soul nor did such words come out of my mouth for my judgement ever hath been and still is that the bloud of Christ is satisfying reconciling and cleansing bloud that it is interceding redeeming meriting bloud in relation to all those who through faith and patience come to inherit eternall life To the fourth I acknowledge that about four years since some such expressions were uttered by me to Mr Grip but without any such intent as may be supposed by my accusers and not with that circumstantiall aggravation of repeating it in a contemptuous manner which is but q Read the proof is not this an interjection of scorning a supposition of my adversary and cannot be attested upon Oath without his witnesse pretends infallibly to r How should we know your thoughts but by your words know my thoughts and purposes Again this being spoken to a particular person upon a particular occasion might be true if the circumstances of the discourse were accordingly added though as here presented it seems very monstrous Therefore to make things clear I shall here insert some particular circumstances which may present this article though in a new yet with a true face I coming to Mrs Grips house she s Untruth took me into a private room to have some conference with me alone where she t False read the animadversion breaking forth into a violent passion of tears weeping and wringing her hands and pouring forth ●itter complaints and invectives against Mr Fowler as that he was a gracelesse man a lier and a slanderer not worthy to come up into a Pulpit or to have the name of a Minister of Christ with other such bitter expressions the cause of which was as she then told me Mr Fowler 's reporting about that she then lived in adultery with a gentleman not far off and after her passion was somewhat allayed she brake out into these or such like expressions of high assurance Christ hath loved me and died for me and justified me by his blood from all guilt of sin I am an elect person a justified person and what is this Mr Fowler to u Oh the invention of man not such a word spoken charge sin upon me these and other expressions fell from her to this purpose from some of which I feared she was drenched with † A mere figment and base contrivance of his own heart Antinomianisme and told her more then once it was a poor thing to live upon the bloud of Christ and to look so much upon that except she had the nature of Christ and the spirit of Christ asking her where was the meeknesse of Christ the patience of Christ to suffer as an innocent lamb quietly w Oh amazeing that any man could devise such untruths so many and all fore-thought and deliberate not a true word But still she cried out she lived on the bloud of Christ I told her it was a poor thing to be thus exalted with notions of the bloud of Christ without mentioning sanctification and those holy graces which flow from Christs nature dwelling in the soul Now by these expressions of mine my scope was to make Mrs Grip see the necessity of sanctification and of a pure and holy life and not to make void the blessed effect of the bloud of Christ applyed accord●ng to the mind of God and true meaning of the scriptures and now having related the x See what Mrs G●ip deposeth to these circumstances at the end of her deposition circumstances as near as I can rememember I believe a sober and knowing Christian will not judge me either y This fardell of studied untruths is very scandalous scandalous or ignorant for these expressions The proofs of the fore-mentioned articles The aforesaid Mr John Tickhill This Deponent further saith that the Dr delivered that the liberty and freedome spoken of and purchased by the bloud of Christ is not a liberty or freedome from the guilt of sin the curse of the law the wrath of God But the fiery deity of Christ in the center of our souls And this Deponent being crosse examined by the Dr further saith that the very summe and substance of this article was delivered fully and roundly by the Dr in the expresse words for the substance of them and that without any limitation to the best of his remembrance Master Christopher Fowler Minister of S. Maries in Reding and one of the Assistants to the Commissioners sworn and examined deposeth That about three weeks or a moneth since this Deponent acquainted Master Daniel Blagrave the younger that these Commissioners did intend to 2 This gentleman with others was summoned to appear by a warrant from the Commissioners to testify his knowledge as to this article and some others but did not appear The Quae. What that clause intends in the Ordinance viz the Commissioners shall issue forth summons when the persons summoned will appear if they please and if they will not they may chuse for so some have answered had the appearance bin according to the summons the doctrines and deeds of darknesse had bin more dejected by these renowned summon him to testifie what he knew of Dr Pordage's doctrine in relation to Jesus Christ and thereupon among other things the Deponent asked him whether he did not hear the said Dr deliver that the bloud of Christ was not meritorious of any mans salvation to which be answered he had heard him speak to that purpose Susanna Grip wife of John Grip of Reding Joyner sworn and examined This Deponent saith that she told Dr Pordage it was a high thing to live upon the bloud of Christ to which he replyed piff to live upon the bloud of Christ that is a poor thing and repeated the same again and said thou art a babe thou knowest nothing to live upon the bloud of Christ that is a poor thing whereupon the Deponents heart fell almost dead with fear at his words And the said Susanna

dost not see it but thou shalt see it These upon credible testimony 1. That there is neither good nor evil but as men apprehend it And that he might do any thing if his mind did lead him to it Positions enough to astonish the heavens and shake the earth and tend our very bowels from another guesse man then this Dr. both for life and learning But he is gone to Eternity and to us that knew him out of his grave he preacheth a sermon upon that text Rom. 11.20 Thou standest by faith be not high minded but fear let us pray pray pray that God would keep us in the knowledge love and practise of all divine truth But to return The next witnesse for the Dr to prove that Mrs Grip did rail c. is John Tench p. 63. We wonder that this witnesse also is not encomiasted with the titles of a sober pious Christian we cannot tell what this man would swear but we know with sadnesse of heart what he saith he hath twice in publick denied the bloud of Christ to be the bloud of God and this as we fear not through mistake or ignorance for he was often told and severall scriptures were alledged to that purpose viz. that it was the bloud of a divine person not of the divine nature but he still persisted in his foolish to say no more cavillations and afterwards said to one of us that Christ died and rose again and then became God This is one of John Tawneys followers a blasphemer of the Lord Christ a slanderer of Christians for his sake a late abettor of the Anti-scripturall Quakers at Reding and one whose inconsiderablenesse makes him audacious The rest are Eleanor Burly Mrs Kent ibidem and in another place John Hambleton is quoted What savour these three have among understanding Christians that know them we will leave to others the very naming of the last will make those that know him even to hold their noses Ob. See how bitter these Priests are and how rigid Ans Our reply is this we have concealed many passages that we might have rehearsed to avoid this very objection but we do conceive it inevitable and unreasonable too for this objection will be made by those who have gall and bitternesse and are the most bitter people in the world if our relation be false we yield to suffer if it be true why are we bitter is it because we will not see the everlasting Deity the precious bloud the blessed word and ordinances of Jesus Christ trampled denied blasphemed and sit still with our hands in our pockets but according to our measure speak a word for him and his is this bitternesse then the Lord make us more bitter in these fundamentalls Jesus Christ will give us but little thanks in the day of our account for our Gallionisme or moderation Obj. But grant for once that these witnesses are against ordinances sabboths scriptures grace Christ for so they are some of them against most and every one of them against some yet their testimony is legall Ans It is confessed and their testimony was received as such and we desire it may be weighed with all our hearts Obj. The Commissioners would not receive their witnesse Ans We reply This is a sordid and false imputation of the Drs upon them they were examined the Dr had his liberty to propose any questions and to produce any witnesses it is confessed the Commissioners did refuse some of the witnesses because they could not speak to the matter in hand as when it was deposed the Dr had spoken blasphemy at one time in one place they offered to depose that they heard him speak otherwise at another time and in another place and this is the naked truth yet the Commissioners are clamoured upon by him and his friends in Court in city in town in countrey even for crucifiers c. To conclude that a man of such pretended glories visions sanctity likened even to Christ almost as to have no sin for the Devil hardly to work upon him by should have no more no other to appear in his behalf but as thou hast seen Reader seems to us wonderfull observable The fifth article of the first charge That by male and female Genesis the 1. we are to understand by male the Deity and by female the humanity and that these two become one flesh Adde to this two other articles of the last charge viz. That he preached at Bradfield and did labour to defend it pertinaciously that the little horn in Dan. 7. vers 8. was Christ and being told that the horn made war with the Saints yet he persisted to say that he was Christ That he is ignorant and insufficient for the work of the Ministry The Drs Answer To the first of these the Dr gave no particular answer Animadver 3. The Dr could not tell what to say then but since in his book pag. 44. he answers thus to this article That by male and female might be shadowed forth the Deity and pure humanity the male representing the Deity the female the pure humanity which by union become one the spirit of the soul brought up by Christ into a mysticall union is made partaker of the divine nature Answer What un-edifying matter and language is this is this to speak to edification exhortation and to comfort is not this and all the rest taken out of the euangle of Henry Nicholas and Jacob Behmen is there not a serpent in this grasse Irenaeus observes of the Gnosticks that they did with Scripture words and phrases as if some skilfull Artist should make with precious stones and pearles the most exquisite effigies of some Heroique prince and when it is done and compleated in comes some phantasticall fellow and pulls it all to pieces and with the same stones and pearles goes and makes the picture of an ape or a dog How hatefull is this saith that Father as it was then even so it is now the Gnosticks in the first times and the Familists and Quakers in these last times differing no more some circumstances excepted then Simon Magus differs from Simon the Sorcerer the Familists take Scripture words phrases and expressions which shine as pearles in that place and meaning where the hand of the blessed spirit hath set them and they dismember them and pluck them asunder and with them according to their own whimsies they make sometime an ape or a dog or both sometime non-sence or blasphemy and oftentimes both as for instance such expressions as these Christ in you the fellowes of Christ Christs brethren partakers of the divine nature I in them and they in me you need not that any man teach you taught of God perfect as the Father the letter killeth the spirit to God c. Now consider how our new Gnosticks wrest and rack these scriptures and make them speak what they never meant how do they take these pearles these choise texts of heaven and with them

God from whom he received his Commission and that this was the summe of what I then preached I can prove by oath That about 1653. I was commanded by my Angel or from Heaven to give off preaching and to take no more Tithes but that since I have had a dispensation I believe no one that hath the fear of God before his eyes dare attest this article by oath as it is here stated this is answer enough to such a thing which is merely brought in as an odium by my accuser the more to prejudice me That in July 1654 I was taken up into Heaven c. If Paul were now upon the earth he were in danger to be accused by my accuser for his rapture into Heaven or Paradice but this concerning me will prove but some idle dream created by some bodies fancy to make people wonder at me That I cursed the people of Bradfield in my Pulpit and their posterity for ever c. This article was one of those heard and examined four years since by the Committee of plundred Ministers from which I was acquitted by them these witnesses viz. Richard Luington John Hambleton Mary Pocoek Richard Holmes with four more attested by oath that I did not curse the people of Bradfield for as it was expressed in the article the testimony of these witnesses was this That they being present September the 29. the Dr expressed himself thus Bradfield is a place partly made famous partly infamous by reason of the false and lying reports that are abroad But I say cursed be the tongue and the mouth that shall say that what is done by the power of God is done by the power of the devil what one Parishioner is here cursed by me except any ones conscienc accuseth him of the guilt of that forementioned blasphemy Concerning Goodwife Pocock singing Hymnes and spirituall songs She acknowledgeth it as her gift bestowed by God being according to the gifts of Christians in the Primitive time but this doth not directly concern me Concerning the same persons coming to Col. Eveling and saying she had a word from God viz. have nothing to do with that just man She owneth these words and looks upon me as a just man and a 6 No denier of Christ is a Christian much lesse a true one true Christian and believeth that Col. Eveling will one day know she gave good counsell upon good grounds Touching Seywards depositions of the birth of a child and one being in travell This was one of the former articles of which I was acquitted by the forementioned Committee Mrs Elizabeth Pordage and Mary Pocock asserting on oath that there was no woman in travel nor any child born nor any other cry heard but of those at prayer which was also witnessed on oath by Mrs Frances Pordage That in my house the new Jerusalem hath been seen to come down from Heaven and that in it was a Globe which Globe was Eternity and in that Eternity all the Saints As to the substance of this article if God have favoured any with such a vision surely they would be no more ashamed to own it when called to it then John was to write Rev. 21.1 That he saw the holy city new Jerusalem come down from God out of Heaven where he also describes it by all the most precious stones in the creation but in reference to my family I believe none dare attest they heard this spoken by any of them which I believe will prove some 7 It is now-confessed by himself in print p. 77. and Susan Day saith she saw it with her eyes See her testimony groundlesse imagination That in my house God hath been seen face to face c. As this article is stated I shall give no other answer but this who dares swear to it or what proof can be brought of it The proofs of the aforesaid articles are as follow Concerning the converse with Angels or rather Devils ●ombating with the Dragon and the visions of Mrs Pendar Mr Christopher Fowler further sworn and examined deposeth That about Michaelmas last the Deponent speaking with Mr * This Gentleman was summoned to appear but did not Daniel Blagrave the elder concerning the visions of Angels that were in his house in reference to Mrs Pendar The Deponent told him the said Mr Blagrave he did believe he was able to say much to the purpose it being in his house and desired him thereupon to speak his knowledge of the truth both in point of conscience and in point of reputation he being censured for supporting such a man as Dr Pordage The said Mr Blagrave answered Why the Dr doth converse with Angels and I believe when he comes before the Commissioners he will not deny but he doth converse with Angels To which the Deponent replied if he doth confesse them Angels we will prove them Devils And he further saith that he hath credibly heard something tending to this purpose that Dr Pordage hath seen the 7 To the question of the white vision the Dr would not answer at any hand vision of the said Mr Blagrave somewhat a white vision And he further saith that the entrance of his discourse with Mr Blagrave was in reference to the visions that were seen by the bodily eyes and mentioned the visions of Mrs Pendar that were by her reported to be such upon this he understood Mr Blagrave that the purport of his answer was a visible converse with Angels This Deponent further saith that in conference with Mr Daniel Blagrave the younger he asked him if he could not speak to the Drs converse with Angels he answered as far as the Deponent remembers he could speak much And the Deponent further saith that Mrs Pendar being asked by him did acknowledge on Thursday last at London that at Mr Blagraves house at Southcott she heard a great noise of drums and trumpets which Dr Pordage who was sent for to her told her was the alarum to the spirituall warre And that one night she saw the vision of young Mr Daniel Blagrave come to her bed side and she took him by the hand which hand felt cold which Dr Pordage expounded to her thus That the coldnesse of his hand signified that he began to be cold to vanity and that she asked the Dr what the visions meant upon the wall and he replyed Mrs we do not use to reveal one anothers visions The aforesaid Susanna Grip. This Deponent further saith that the Dr told her that a great many spirits hovered about his window and kept a noise and that he told the company there could come in but one at a time and that a great dragon did come in with a long tail and great eyes and vangs and did spit fire at him and that his own Angel stood by him in his own shape in the same clothes band and cuffs and did protect him and that the Dr likewise told her that Mrs Flavell and Mrs Pordage had