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A65868	The he-goats horn broken, or, Innocency elevated against insolency & impudent falshood in answer to two books against the people of God called Quakers : the one intituled, A fuller discovery, which is stuffed with such a multitude of lyes, slanders, and perverting the truth, as the like hath not been extant : the authors of which are John Horn, Thomas Moore Senior, and Thomas Moore Junior : and the other book is falsely called truth's triumph by John Horn : which are answered for the information of the people, and the clearing of the servants of God, and the way of truth to the simple hearted from the lyes, delusions and fallacies that have proceeded from the spirit of Antichrist and blasphemy, in these men aforesaid, who profess themselves ministers of Christ but are proved ministers of Satan and unrighteousness / by a witness of Christ and his work against all the works of darkness, G.W.	Whitehead, George, 1636?-1723.	1660 (1660)	Wing W1933; ESTC R38606	53,172	64

3. That Envy is not Malice Page 18. 4. That a man may be a Sinner and yet not Sin Pag. 11. 5. That Sin is in the believer as a natural heritage from Adam while he is in this mortal Body Pag 2. 8. 6. That the same mortal Body that Dyes or is sown in the Earth shall Rise but it shall not Rise flesh and blood Pages 44. 46. 7. To know Christ as he was the Power of God before the World was is not the Knowledge of him to Salvation Pag 48. 8. That the Light wherewith Christ Lighteth every man is both natural and Spiritual Pag. 61. 9. That Adam should not have dyed the bodily Death had he not Sinned Pag. 23. 10. That when Paul saith Christ was seen of him last 1 Cor. 15 8. he must needs mean is of his Body seen and seen by bodily sight Pag. 55. which is contrary to Gal. 1. 16. And now I shall note some things in their Answers to our Queries and briefly Reply to them by way of discovery J. H. and T. M. Sen. Juni in Pag. 77. They go about to prove that Satan presseth men to some duties thus viz. That Satans Ministers may be transformed into the Ministers of Righteousness which they could not be if not zealous for some things that are in their place and order in Duties as to be diligent to go up and down and Preach Righteous works together with their own mixtures and to evil unrighteous ends Reply How miserably come you off here for these are not Duties that are done to unrighteous ends for Duties are done in Righteousness and to Righteous ends and this Satan presseth none to your selves are these transformed ones you tell of who are zealous for some things for Tythes or Hire or Masterships and these are your evil and unrighteous ends which are manifest to all men and are not yet come so far as they that are drawn from gross evils and though Satan for your own ends press these things as Duties yet are they not Duties in the sight of God and Gospel Truth Touching our 1. Que. You say p. 8. Whether we so propounded it out of weakness or wickedness you will not determine And yet soon after in your Answer to the same Que. you charge us with confounding things clearly distinct and seeking by such confusion to work our ends in deceiving the simple which is your own false determination against us when before you determined not whether we so propounded it out of weakness or wickedness thus you betray your selves in your confusion and at the Beginning of your Answer you falsely say these Questions give a full Intimation of our Antichristian Spirit which is your slander and perverting them In your 2. Answer you say our Que. is perverse in that it Intimately charges you as calling the Personal Body of our Lord Jesus a Body of flesh and bones which you say is a slander for it is not your expression and yet you say though possibly you may sometimes have let it pass without consideration or particular notice of it in some discourse that may have passed between us Reply Mark how these men are ashamed of their own words and count that a Slander which they cannot deny but that they may sometimes have spoken as called the Body of Christ a Body of flesh and bones and yet now they say the expression they own not when it is evidently known that they have used that expression and gone about to prove it to be such a Body without blood in it but now seeing that they shame not to deny their own expression I ask them if the glorified Body of Christ be not a body of flesh and bones as formerly they have Affirmed it to be what is it a body of and what is the Substance of it Again you say in your 3. Answer That be even the Son of man came down from Heaven and descended into the Lower parts of the Earth although that his Personal Body in which he was made man and became the Son of man was actually prepared for him or the preparation of it was made in the Earth you say Reply Mark your confusion here which is as if the Son of man which came down from Heaven again became the Son of man in that Personal Body which was prepared for him in the Earth which is confusion for he was the Son of man as he came down from Heaven and so that Body prepared for him in the Earth Descended not down from Heaven as the Son of Man did according to your own words And where you bring Ps. 139. 15. that proves not how the Son of man Descended into the Lower parts of the Earth for there it s spoken of the Lowest parts of the Earth wherein the Prophet saith he was curiously wrought now this is besides the Que. for it was about him which Descended into the Lower parts of the Earth and not about that which was framed in the Lowest parts of the Earth which David speaks of Psal. 139. 15. and as for your telling of the Son of man being three dayes and three nights in the heart of the Earth pag. 92. I say the Sepulchre in which his Body was Buryed could not be the Lower parts of the Earth for it was but one part of it it being in a Rock Mat. 27. 60. and where in Pag. 91. you say men of the lowest Ranke poor despised and of mean esteem may be as properly called the Lower parts of the Earth and you bring Rom. 12. 16. then I say if such men be the Lower parts into which Christ Descended It follows that his Discending into the Lower parts of the Earth was his Descending into men of the lowest Rank poor despised and of mean esteem such as you are not who are set up as Masters it seems you running into so many things to prove what the Lower parts of the Earth are which Christ Descended into you thought if some of them would not serve others would but where the Earth is not yet shaken nor the Power which must shake and Remove it known the Lower parts of the Earth is covered with thick darkness that they are not discerned nor the Seed which Rents the Earth known and that is your state and to you a Parable who are out of the Power of Godliness over whom the Earth and earthly things hath Power J. H. and T. M. Say Pag. 93 and 106. That the Name Jesus alwayes signifies that Person as so made and includes the Body of his Flesh and that the Name Jesus alwayes signifies Christ as come in the Flesh and so takes in that Body of his Flesh Reply If the Name Jesus alwayes Includes the Body of his Flesh then from this it followes that the Body of Christs flesh was in the Believers for Jesus Christ was in them 2 Cor. 13. 5. thus these men confound themselves and they have said that it is the Annointing that is in

the Believers and not the Anointed which is also false for Jesus Christ is the Anointed of God who is in the Saints and the Anointed and Anointing is not devided J. H. and T. M. p. 94. That Christ in the Body of his Flesh may be truly and properly said to be Ascended or gone up far above all Heavens not onely in respect of Glory and Dignity but even in respect of place or Local height also Rep. But what place or Local height it is that Christ is Ascended into far above all Heavens Eph. 4. 10. you have not discovered but say it was Heaven it self or the Heaven of Heavens as if you had said Heaven itself the Heaven of Heavens is far above all Heavens and then it must be far above itself when the Apostle saith he that Descended is the same also that Ascended up far above all Heavens that he might fill all things Eph. 4. 9. 10. and it is the same that first Descended that Ascended far above all Heavens this is spoken without exception of place or Lo●● height as you except and the Heaven of Heavens cannot contain that glory that he is in who is ascended who is both in the Heavens and far above them all Our 10th Question is where or how came Christ into the House where his Disciples were met after his Resurrection the doors being shut John 20. 19 26. have not some of you said that then his body being spirituallized it glyded in at the key hole of the door you answer That none of you have said as related Reply But in this you have not all cleared your selves from speaking these or the like words for one that informed me how Thomas Moor the elder spoke of Christs body glyding in at the key hole of the door hath been one of his own hearers whom I know durst not bely him but would be willing to witness it openly to his face if called to it and Barthel Wormel Alderman who owns you did not go about to clear T. Moor from what was said of him as mentioned when he took upon him to answer that question and it appears that T. M. and you have had such like whimseyes in your minds by what follows where you say these words viz. Further also you are assured that even the Children of the first Resurrection when they shall attain to that Resurrection of the dead and have their bodies that now are vile fashioned into the likeness of his glorious body they in those very bodies being spiritual immortal powerful incorruptible shall be equal to the Angels who cannot be hindred from passage by any corruptible things as doors walls or the like but can make their own passage thorow any such obstacles more easily than mortal bodies through the Ayr and why should it be thought a thing incredible c. Reply Here people may see these mens imaginations and dreams and how against what they have professed they would appear wise above what is written for we never read in all the Scriptures that the Children of the first Resurrection in these very bodies of flesh and bones shall be so equal to the Angels in the Resurrection as that they may make their own passage thowrow any such obstacles as doors walls and the like more easily than mortal bodies through the Ayr as you may see plainly these men imagin wherein they shew themselves intruders into things they have not seen being vainly puft up in their fleshly minds and more like such as are peeping and muttering and running into sorcery and magick then men in the simplicity of the Gospel for it is not at all natural nor proper to a body of flesh and bones it being of such a substance to make its own passage thorow doors and walls more easily than now it can thorow the Ayr thus have they shewed their dreaming in the night of thick darkness that is over them And in P. 129. J. H. and T. M. are speaking about the second coming of Christ and say that his second coming his glorious appearing never yet hath been to any nor now is c. Reply herein they might as well say that then never yet were any come to Salvation by Christ for his second coming is without sin unto Salvation and for the same end he will appear to them that yet look for him even to save them from their sins for his coming in the flesh wherein he was once offered to bear the sins of many Heb. 9. 28. This was one coming of Christ and after this the Saints who looked for him received his coming in Spirit to work their Redemption and to make them witnesses of his Kingdome Glory and Reign and to Reign with him over darkness and unrighteousness but these things have these deceivers put afar off and discern not Christs Kingdome Reign and where they say that Christ shall then stay all the wicked even every one that doth not presently submit to serve him and his People and that then all the Saints that come with him shall have immortal bodies being as equal to the Angels and that they shall Reign with Christ on Earth and Judge the World until the final and eternal Judgment seize upon all the ungodly at the last and general Resurrection Reply Herein they have spoken but faintly and in darkness for what service it is they imagin the People of God shall then have from the wicked when they shall be in these raised immortal bodies they have not told us nor what need the Saints in these immortal bodies can have of the other part of the Creation or of the wicked to serve them especially if their bodies be such as can make their passage so immediately thowrow any such obstacles as doors and walls as these men have said and yet these bodies must be bodies of flesh and bones according to their words But these vain conceptions do arise from the same Spirit in them that leads them into pride self-exaltation and to look for master-ship in the Earth like those that look to gain an Earthly Kingdome or to Reign with Christ in some outward pomp and glory and so to bring all under them and then they would be Lords indeed but their expectations after that will fail them as for their bringing Revel. 20. 4 6. It proves not what they would have it nor the other Scriptures they have blindly quoted that Christ shall personally Reign a thousand years * for in Revel. 20. 5. it ' spoken of the first Resurrection which he is blessed that hath a part in for then he hath a part in Christ who is the Resurrection the life whose Kingdom is an everlasting Kingdome which hath already appeared unto his People and is set up among them that they are come to Reign with him over the World and it's deceivers and these men as appears imagin that after Christ hath at his coming raised the dead bodies of the Saints and reigned

answered again Herein hast thou shamefully Lyed again for thou hast gone about thorow much of thy Book to plead thy own Cause and hast not taken good Hezekiah's Counsel as thou hast pretended but hast answered again though to thy own confusion And in Pag. 7. Where thou sayest The Quakers would be thought to be better than the Prophets and Apostles This is thy Lye and slander J. H. And in Pag 8. To my saying the true Prophet sayes all his Judgements were before me and as for his Statutes I did not depart from them I was also upright before him and have kept my self from my iniquity 2 Sam. 22. 24 but thou sayest that David acknowledges he had then Iniquity for how was Iniquity his if there was none in him In which thou hast perverted Davids words for David saith he kept himself from his Iniquity and did not depart from the Statutes of the Lord so that then he was not a Sinner and our transgressions and our Sins the Saints spoke of when they were washed from them and their transgressions done far from them Psal. 103. 12. Rev. 1. 5. In P. 9. J. H. Saith It is true too that God promises that his People shall be all Righteous and clean from all their filthiness c. and that God is performing his promises to them that they may all be perfectly Righteous even in themselves in the New Heaven and Earth and New Jerusalem where shall be no unclean thing he saith To which Reply In this hath John Horn overthrown his former Doctrine for if the People of God shall be cleansed from all their filthiness as in Ezek. 36. 25. and be all perfectly Righteous in the New Jerusalem then they are not to be Sinners nor have sin in them so long as they live as J. H. hath affirmed for the Saints before their decease were come unto New Jerusalem and to be Citizens there and to a Kingdom that could not be shaken into which no unclean thing could come and to see the removing of the old Earth and Heaven which were shaken Ephes. 2. 19. Col. 1. 13. Heb. 12. which yet J. H. and all such as he who are contending for the Devils work are Ignorant of And as for those that John saw Rev. 14. who were without fault before the Throne of God I. H. saith all that heartily believe in Christ and are not moved away from the hope of the Gospel it is Christs Office to present them holy unblameable and without Reproof in Gods sight Col. 1. 22 23. not because they are sinless in themselves he saith Mark his confusion and deceit here according to J. H. his words here the Saints who are without fault before the Throne of God and holy blameless and without Reproof in Gods sight are Sinners notwithstanding as if sin were no fault and not to be Reproved or blamed in Gods sight Oh! what darkness and deceit art thou in I. H. what art thou wholly past feeling doest thou not know in thy own particular that every Sin thou hast is Reproveable and art thou not Reproved in thy own Conscience by the Light for it surely thou art exceedingly hardened and hast denyed Christs Office in thy contending for sin to continue even in them whom Christ presents Holy unblameable and without reproof in Gods sight who live not to themselves but unto the Lord And in P. 10. I. H. Saith He that in such a sence as in 1 Joh. 1. 9. confesseth his Sins is Righteous as Christ is Righteous for Christ is his Righteousness and yet he that confesseth his sin is not without sin in himself In which he hath uttered Blasphemy against Christ for Christ hath no Sin in himself to confess as they have who are but confessing their Sins which they have who are not freed from Sin for they who are Righteous as Christ is Righteous do witness Sin condemned in the flesh and destroyed and walk not after the flesh but after the Spirit being purified from all the filthiness of flesh and Spirit And to my saying that Paul witnessed the groaning and travelling in pain before the Birth was born in him or before he was Born of God which I. H. hath deceitfully perverted and wronged my words about and that Paul spake to Conditions below his own to the Romans which I. H. saith cannot be true and the other too for if Paul was but then groaning to be born and not born of God he spake of his own state and if he spake to others states below his own then is it not true that he had while an Apostle a time in which he was not born of God To which I say in this hath he shewed his blindness and falsehood for he hath not a ground for these cavals against me in that I never affirmed that Paul was but groaning to be born of God when he wrote to the Romans nor that he was not born of God when an Apostle but I know he witnessed the groaning and travelling in pain before the free born state was witnessed in him as also after he was come into that state himself he suffered with the body where it suffered and travailed for its redemption where it was not redeemed which body was not one member but many and for the suffering seeds-sake in those members Paul condescended to states below his own even when he wrote to the Romans all which he himself could not then be in when he so wrote yet a sufferer and a traveller under all those burthens which the body under went about whose condescending I have more fully writ in that Book called the Quakers no Deceivers Page 14. 15 16 17. the truth's whereof J. H. cannot get over for all his cavails And where thou sayest J. H. in P. 9. that the temptations God tries his People with are to try and purifie their faith from the mixtures therein In this thou art ignorant of the faith of Gods elect and the mystery of it for it is pure and stands in the power of God where there is no mixture of sin it being of another nature than sin for it worketh sin out J. H. in P. 16. Speaking of the birth which is born of God he saith he denies not but in that birth there might be degrees and grouth after nor will the perfection of it be as to the body till the resurrection thereof from the Dead To which I say that birth thou never knew nor its perfection For how could the body be a Temple for the Lord if the perfection of the birth be not as to it For the Saints were born of water and the Spirit which cleansed them from all filthiness of flesh and Spirit so that they became members of his body of his flesh and of his bone J. H. saith The Prophet Isaiah doth not witness that in them a Child was born and a Son in them was given Answ. Christ was the first born in many Brethren {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman}

sadly hath I. H. come off here and shifted for himself what doth he make swearing by and confessing Christ all one then he would make all the Saints who confessed Christ swearers and so transgressors of the Doctrine of Christ which was against swearing but not against confessing Christ Again this impudent man I. H. amongst others of his falsehoods he accuseth me with he is not ashamed to charge me with saying that the 63. Psalm verse 11. tends to encourage drunkards and with saying that the Apostles and Proph●●● when they confest sins were not true believers with many other lies Truly I. H. of all the lyers and false accusers that ever I met with thou art one of the most expert to tell lies and falsely to accuse thou hast sure been long discipled in they Fathers work who was a Lyer from the beginning or else thou couldest not be so expert in it Again how falsely and poorly comst thou off in saying that in my asking why should Christ teach his to pray that his will may be perfectly done in Earth as it is in Heaven if it be not in this World to be done in this thou sayest that I Reply There is nothing to be prayed for but what is here to be enjoyed in this Word In which thou hast again lyed for that is none of my reply but this is my Reply That thou hast apeared against the end for which the Disciples of Christ Preached as he taught them who prayed that his Fathers will might be done in Earth as in Heaven which thou I. H. hast denyed to be so done in this World But Christ's Testimony contradicts thee for Christ saith what things soever ye desire when you pray believe that ye receive them and ye shall have them Mar. 11. 23 24. And they desired the will of God to be done in Earth as it is in Heaven where there is no sin Which my Reply is truth and stands clearly over thee and overthrows thy sinful Doctrine about the Prophets and Apostles being sinners so long as they lived And thy telling of sinful Saints that are spotless Pages 26 33. and such thy sinful Doctrines tends to make the Saints unbelievers and their praying in effectual when they prayed that the will of God might be done in Earth as it is in Heaven And to thy saying That I would exclude the coming of Christ in glory and his glorious Kingdome out of your Prayers for that is in the World to come thou sayest I Answer Indeed thou hast already excluded these things out of thy Prayers thy self who art in thy wickedness and unbelief and putting the glorious Kingdome a far off as appears as not to be come to in this life contrary to the Saints faith who were translated into the Kingdome of the dear Son of God when upon Earth which Kingdome was everlasting and glorious and stood in the Power of God into which no unclean thing can come And where thou I. H. sayest Thou shall add no more to G. W. but leave him to the Lords convincement and silencing Indeed it 's high time for thee to give over and add no more indeed for thou hast added enough folly and falsehood against G. W. and the Truth cotended for by him to manifest thy folly and Lying Spirit to the Nation and if thou add any more to G. W. hereafter since thou hast promised to add no more to him but to leave him to the Lords Convincement and silencing thy Lying Spirit and deceit is like further to be discovered to the Nation And thy craving forgiveness for one of thy lyes will not hide thy many more and much more of thy Confusion I have passed by and more of thy Aspersions and slanders which are chiefly against me I have waved as not worth mentioning and trample them under my feet as the dust knowing that the Lord will recompence them into thy own bosom one day and Judge thee for them And as for what thou Layest upon Richard Hubberthorne it s but like the Rest of thy friuolous false stuff and his Innocency and uprightness will clear him from thy aspersions when thy wickedness and Lyes will stink and appear odious both in the sight of God and men And oh how hath thy deceit appeared in thy sending so many Questions to R. Hubberthorne as thou hast done and for what end didst thou send them seeing that thou and thy Brother Moore have pretended as if you sufficiently knew our Principles already and said in a Paper to me as that you sufficiently discovered our corruptness before and that you would not own us to be such good Doctors as to learn of us nor needed further discover us So if thou didst neither send these questions to R. H. to Learn of us then thou sent them in vain and it was in thy foolishness but thy wicked ends which thou hast not yet fulfiled against us are easie to see And where thou accusest R. H. Of denying that there be many such Angels and Spirits as the Scripture declares and of denying the Resurrection of the Body as will appear if he clearly speak out his minde in Explication of his said Answer thou sayest In both these thou hast belyed him and hast falsely accused him without understanding his minde as also thou sayest his Answer cannot be understood unless it be known what be these two Seeds and therefore Queriest of him and a little after thou challengest him for explaining his Answer before it can he seen to agree with the Apostles doctrine of the Resurrection See how thou bewrayes thy own malice falshood and folly against R. H. for it appears by thy own words here that it is not known to thee whether he deny the Resurrection in his doctrine or whether he own it according to the Apostles Doctrine except he further explain his Answer and then thou hast Judged him for denying the Resurrection without understanding him and art like the natural men whom the Apostles Reproved who spoke evil of the things they understood not and could not cease from sin 2 Pet. 2. 12. 14. and thou art never like to understand us aright while thou in thy malice sets thy self to belye and bespatter us with thy falshoods and sets thy self against the Truth as thou hast done Thy malice and enmity doth sadly darken and blinde thee so that all people ought to take heed how they follow or believe thee and such as thou art least they be Leavened with the same malicious Spirit that Rules in thee and become as blinde as thou art and so fall into the ditch with thee and that generation of Deceivers and Hirelings whose way thon art in who are guilty of the blood of souls for destroying them and diverting their mindes from the simplicity of the Gospel and your doubtful conceptions and vain Imaginations which God is confounding and will bring them to nought London in the 6. Moneth 1660. R. H. His Answer to JOHN HORN IN thy

Answer to my Queries thou seemest ●o be Resolved to say something although it be absolute contrary to the Truth and to that which thou knowest to be Truth as will appear in what followes In Answer to my first thou sayst Christ in his Spirit Ascended up to Heaven when his Body was upon Earth is this an Answer to the Question is the minde or Spirit called the Son of man according to John 3. 13. which came down from Heaven and no man doth Ascend up to Heaven but the Son of man which was then in Heaven so by this thy Answer it appears then that the Spirit is the Son of man and that there is no other Son of man that Ascends into Heaven but the Spirit then what becomes of that Body thou speaks of if the Spirit onely be that Son of man In thy Answer to the 2. and 3d. Queries thou provest In thy way that Mary did that which was forbidden by Christ when she held him by the Feet and worshipped him but in Mat. 28. 9. there is no forbiding of her to touch him but this is plainly manifest that thou art in a snare and cannot tell how to get out and yet thou wilt be saying something though thereby thou more ensnare thy self but this Scripture thou wilt once know fulfilled the wicked shall be silent in darkness When thou shouldst Answer to the Fourth thou telst of its being a secret and of prying into things above what is written although the ground of my Query is grounded upon that which is written in Luke 24. 4. To the Fifth thou saist that the Women did distinguish which was Christ was certain but how they did so is a foolish curious Question what certainty is there that they did know when thou knowest not how but this is like the rest of the Priests Doctrine beating the Ayre and leaving all People in uncertainties and yet would be paid for so doing but the Lord hath made thee manifest with the rest that you cannot deceive much longer To the Sixth thou sayest the two Angels were seen visibly but were not bodies nor Persons of men but in thy Answer to the Fourth sayst that they both saw them as men and heard them speak and had two Individual Forms Now if thou were but simple and not wilfully blind thou mightst be the more excused In thy Answer to the Seventh thou art more lost and confused then in all the rest for when thou shouldst Answer who were the 11. Disciples that were met together mentioned Luke 24. 33. Thou saist that Thomas might occasionally be gone out Answ. If he was gone out then the 11. was not together as Luke 24. Again thou sayst that Matthew was chosen before the Evangelist wrote this Book what Darkness and Ignorance is this thou art not Questioned when the Book was written nor when Matthew was chosen but who was the Eleven that was together and whether was Matthew one of the Eleven seeing he was not then chosen when Christ did arise from the dead but there needs not much be said to thee onely to let thee see thy own folly least thou should say thou art wise To the Eight thou seemst to Affirm that the Scripture are to be taken as they speak and not otherwise a Mystery Answ. Then why dost thou and the Priests give meanings to the Scriptures and do not let People take them as they speak but makes them such a Mystery without your meanings and so plain with them but this is thy Practice and Doctrine to condemn thy self in the thing that thou allowest and builds again that which thou hast destroyed and so makes thy self a Transgressor Lastly in thy conclusion thou falsely chargest me that I do not believe that any of these things mentioned in these Scriptures to be really done which is not my Faith for I do believe that those things mentioned were really done and fulfilled as the Scripture speaks but it is no new thing with thee to accuse falsely and to make Lyes thy refuge but what in all those things thou hast done against me I do forgive thee and do warn thee for the time to come that thou go not on to commit the unpardonable Sin against God and his Spirit never to be forgiven Again in thy last Paper thou declarest thy Ignorance of the two Seeds and askest what be those two Seeds Answ. These two the Scripture speaks of the Seed of the Woman and the Seed of the Serpent 2. Who did or doth sow them Seeds Answ. God doth sow the one and the wicked one the oher 3. Where be they sown Answ. In man 4. When be they sown Answ. When man had a being and a body to receive them 5. What be the bodies they shall rise with Answ. Their own bodies according to their own natures the one pure and the other defiled 6. Whether be these two Seeds and two bodies in all the world or two Seeds in every man and the two bodies to or in every man Answ. The Seeds are but two in the whole world having each Seed its own body and in every o 〈…〉 e one be cast out 7. When shall those Seeds arise or be raised whether after the bodily death or after spiritual death Answ. Every one in Its own order after the death of that which is born of the Flesh and also after the death of the spirituall wickedness which is yet alive in all hirelings and Deceivers such as thou art where the Seed of God is yet in its grave 8. What are the graves these are in and out of which they shall arise These of which the Scripture speaks which when thou comest to understand it thou wilt understand both the Seeds and graves of which we speak Christ the Seed made his grave in the wicked and in the rich in his death and out of that grave shall rise with his Body into everlasting Life if thou canst receive it thou maist be satisfied And as to thy 9. Query Why I say that the one shall rise into everlasting Life and the other into Condemnation Answ. Because it is so therefore I say so and if thou say to the contrary make it manifest but in this as in other things thy folly and Ignorance is manifest to ask why I speak the Truth which thou thy self darest not to be Truth R. HUBBERTHORNE A POST-SCRIPT AND T. M. Sen. Thou hast taken a bad work in hand now in thy old age to joyn thy self and to appear so publickly with a lying Spirit as thou hast done But how wast thou liks to do better when thou hast denyed the Lord in thy turning into the way of the coveteous Tyth-taking-Parish-Priests whose deceit thou formerly hadst a sight of and in part wast made to witnes against them but that zeal and that simplicity which thou hadst then is turned into darkness and betrayed and thou become as sottish and as dark an Earth-worme as the Priests whom thou hast witnessed against And thou art become a respecter of persons and canst bow and cring under such as be great in the Earth as they do for their own ends and thou art by many taken notice of to be more sottish dead and dark since so much thou hast partaken of the Priests iniquity then ever thou wast and the same enemy and betrayer in thee and thy two Disciples viz. J. H. and thy Son leads you out to deceive others with your dreams and imaginations and to betray the simplicity and to murder the innocent in others for which you have a sad account to give and if thou returnest not to that principle which once brought thee in part to see the deceit of the Priests but continuest in thy deceit hypocrisie and accusing the innocent and so remainest in sottishness and hardness of heart thou will be cut off perish in thy iniquity in thy old age Alas What silly men are ye You are never like to gain to your selves any honour and credit among any that are honest hearted by your Books and aspersions against the poor Quakers so called for it is so common a thing for them to undergo revilings and aspersions even from the vilest of men as Drunkards Covetous Idolaters and the like that in what you have done you have not shewn your selves any whit more eminent or famous than such but have meerly rancked your selves in the Dragons Army with them in belying and slandering the iunocent THE END * Though we own that which brings them to Confesse their Lying and Faults and can forgive but we cannot own their Dissembling and feiguedness in it * which is as much as to say not Christ in them but Christ in men and that his riches is not the possession what folly is this * That which is humane is earthly as humanus homo are of hhmus the ground from whence man was taken so that a humane Soul is an earthly Soul what then hath Christ both an earthly Soul and a divine Soul in him J. H. T. M. I. H. T. M. J. H. T. M. J. H. T. M. T. M. J. H. P. 104. J. H. T. M. * But what is the beloved City and the Camp of the Saints which Gogg and Magogg do compass about when the 1000. Years are ended Revel. 20. 8 9. whether is it an outward City or not And where shall it be and whether any be yet come to that beloved City * This is another such a reason as I Horns saying that he is not a dumb dog for he could worry me c. J. H.