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chapter_n concern_v transubstantiation_n sect._n 20_o i_o come_v now_o to_o return_v a_o answer_n to_o what_o he_o have_v plead_v for_o the_o adoration_n of_o the_o sacrament_n and_o first_o the_o place_n which_o he_o cite_v out_o of_o st._n chrysostome_n will_v not_o conclude_v his_o purpose_n for_o albeit_o he_o say_v 24._o 1_o cor._n 10._o ho._n 24._o let_v we_o imitate_v the_o barbarous_a magi_n yet_o do_v he_o not_o say_v as_o our_o author_n parenthesis_n will_v have_v he_o that_o we_o shall_v imitate_v they_o in_o worship_v our_o lord_n but_o only_o tell_v we_o that_o they_o address_v themselves_o unto_o he_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d with_o a_o great_a deal_n of_o fear_n or_o horror_n let_v we_o therefore_o stir_v up_o ourselves_o say_v he_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o show_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d far_o great_a fear_n than_o they_o for_o this_o exposition_n of_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o comparison_n require_v and_o that_o this_o word_n ordinary_o bear_v the_o sense_n if_o any_o will_v far_o be_v inform_v let_v he_o have_v recourse_n to_o beza_n or_o any_o other_o commentator_n upon_o the_o 5._o heb._n 7_o and_o he_o may_v receive_v satisfaction_n from_o they_o second_o do_v chrysostome_n indeed_o speak_v of_o adoration_n yet_o may_v he_o bid_v we_o imitate_v these_o magi_n not_o by_o adore_v the_o element_n but_o he_o that_o be_v represent_v by_o they_o matth._n hom._n 8_o q._n in_o matth._n thus_o when_o elsewhere_o he_o say_v that_o it_o be_v christ_n who_o beg_v and_o receive_v in_o the_o poor_a man_n sheaf_n and_o bid_v we_o reverence_v he_o i_o suppose_v he_o will_v not_o have_v the_o reverence_n do_v to_o the_o poor_a man_n but_o direct_v to_o our_o lord_n and_o saviour_n the_o other_o three_o citation_n tell_v we_o only_o this_o sect._n 21_o that_o they_o do_v adore_v christ_n flesh_n in_o the_o sacrament_n 131._o mr._n cr._n p._n 131._o and_o what_o be_v that_o to_o the_o purpose_n for_o it_o be_v very_o well_o know_v that_o the_o greek_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o the_o latin_a adoro_fw-la be_v use_v by_o the_o father_n for_o any_o kind_n of_o reverence_n as_o when_o it_o be_v say_v by_o tertullian_n adoro_fw-la scripturae_fw-la plenitudinem_fw-la and_o by_o the_o council_n of_o carthage_n apud_fw-la cyprianum_n adorabilia_fw-la scripturae_fw-la verba_fw-la &_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d as_o isid_n pelusiot_n lib._n 1._o ep._n 136._o but_o to_o come_v to_o particular_n sect._n 22_o that_o place_n of_o saint_n ambrose_n do_v not_o necessary_o refer_v to_o the_o sacrament_n 1._o de_fw-fr sp._n l._n 3._o c._n 1._o answ_n but_o be_v it_o to_o be_v understand_v of_o the_o eucharist_n he_o say_v no_o more_o than_o this_o that_o in_o these_o mystery_n we_o worship_v christ_n and_o consequent_o the_o flesh_n of_o christ_n as_o be_v not_o divide_v from_o he_o but_o he_o do_v not_o say_v that_o in_o adore_v the_o mystery_n we_o adore_v christ_n and_o as_o for_o saint_n augustine_n sect._n 23_o he_o propound_v the_o very_a same_o objection_n i_o fear_v say_v he_o to_o worship_v the_o earth_n lest_o he_o that_o make_v heaven_n and_o earth_n shall_v damn_v i_o for_o it_o thus_o fluctuate_a i_o turn_v to_o christ_n and_o here_o i_o find_v how_o the_o earth_n may_v be_v worship_v because_o flesh_n be_v of_o the_o earth_n now_o he_o take_v flesh_n upon_o he_o and_o give_v we_o his_o flesh_n to_o eat_v which_o no_o man_n eat_v nisi_fw-la prius_fw-la adoraverit_fw-la but_o he_o that_o have_v first_o adore_v viz._n christ_n as_o it_o follow_v cum_fw-la adoras_fw-la illum_fw-la that_o be_v when_o you_o worship_v he_o to_o wit_n christ_n let_v not_o the_o thought_n be_v of_o the_o flesh_n no_o you_o must_v not_o worship_v that_o alone_o but_o as_o conjoin_v with_o the_o deity_n do_v we_o eat_v that_o flesh_n that_o
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