minister_n you_o cypher_n 1._o tim._n 6.12_o fight_v the_o good_a fight_n of_o faith_n lay_v hold_v on_o eternal_a life_n whereunto_o thou_o be_v call_v ibid._n lin_v 3._o to_o prove_v â—he_v scripture_n to_o be_v sufficient_a for_o spiritual_a man_n you_o â—ypher_n 1._o cor._n 2.15_o but_o he_o that_o be_v spiritual_a judge_v all_o thing_n and_o be_v judge_v of_o none_o which_o prove_v the_o contrary_n if_o it_o prove_v any_o thing_n to_o wit_n that_o the_o spiritual_a man_n be_v not_o judge_v and_o rule_v by_o scripture_n but_o raâ—her_o the_o scripture_n be_v judge_v and_o rule_v by_o he_o pag._n â—0_n lin_v 21._o to_o prove_v that_o we_o wrong_v you_o in_o saying_n â—ou_fw-mi derogate_v from_o the_o church_n you_o cite_v matth._n 18._o â—7_n he_o that_o hear_v not_o the_o church_n let_v he_o be_v as_o a_o heathen_a &_o publican_n ibid._n to_o the_o same_o purpose_n you_o cypher_n heb._n â—â—_o 17_o obey_v your_o prelate_n and_o submit_v yourself_o unto_o they_o â—ag_n 169._o lin_v 22._o to_o prove_v that_o no_o church_n ever_o priâ—â—d_v the_o oblation_n &_o merit_n of_o christ_n passion_n more_o â—â—ghly_a and_o religious_o than_o you_o do_v you_o cypher_n heb._n â—_o 14_o with_o one_o oblation_n he_o do_v consummate_v for_o ever_o the_o sanctified_a and_o ephes._n 5.2_o he_o give_v himself_o a_o sacrifice_n 〈◊〉_d we_o to_o a_o sweet_a smell_a savour_n &_o john_n 1.29_o behold_v the_o â—ambe_n of_o god_n that_o take_v away_o the_o sin_n of_o the_o world_n &_o â—ct_n 4.12_o there_o be_v not_o salvation_n in_o any_o other_o name_n pag._n â—1_n lin_v 1._o to_o prove_v we_o wrong_v you_o by_o say_v you_o aâ—â—int_v that_o 126._o that_o the_o word_n of_o john_n white_a way_n pag._n 126._o every_o particular_a man_n examine_v &_o â—â—dge_v of_o the_o church_n &_o her_o teach_n you_o cite_v 1._o cor._n â—_o 19_o be_v all_o apostle_n be_v all_o prophet_n be_v all_o teacher_n â—re_n all_o worker_n of_o miracle_n if_o one_o will_v study_v to_o apâ—â—y_a scripture_n impertinent_o i_o be_o persuade_v he_o can_v â—â—rdly_o devise_v great_a impertinencye_n than_o these_o â—hich_v be_v so_o riâ—e_v in_o every_o page_n of_o your_o book_n so_o that_o it_o be_v intolerable_a folly_n for_o your_o poet_n and_o paynter_n to_o represent_v this_o your_o voluminous_a cypher_v of_o scripture_n with_o a_o crown_n upon_o it_o bid_v man_n to_o behâ—â—â—_n grace_n and_o wisdom_n in_o your_o look_n and_o truth_n triumphâ—â—â—_n your_o book_n for_o if_o this_o kind_n of_o cypher_v of_o scripture_n be_v wisdom_n what_o i_o pray_v you_o be_v the_o last_o extreme_a anâ—_n nonplus_n of_o folly_n of_o i_o wonder_v you_o will_v not_o be_v warn_v to_o be_v more_o wise_a by_o the_o book_n of_o quaeres_fw-la or_o prurit-anus_a for_o you_o cite_v the_o scripture_n as_o impertinent_o in_o good_a earnest_n as_o he_o do_v in_o jest_n to_o show_v your_o ministerial_a folly_n folly_n you_o cite_v &_o cypher_n scripture_n that_o make_v against_o you_o §._o 8._o hereunto_o i_o add_v that_o the_o text_n you_o cypher_n many_o time_n make_v against_o you_o pag._n 548._o lin_v 19_o to_o prove_v that_o reward_n be_v give_v unto_o work_n of_o graâ—â—_n and_o bounty_n aswell_o as_o of_o desert_n you_o cypher_n rom._n 4_o 4._o which_o say_v to_o he_o that_o work_v the_o reward_n be_v not_o reckon_v of_o grace_n but_o of_o debt_n can_v any_o text_n be_v devise_v more_o direct_o against_o the_o purpose_n you_o cite_v it_o for_o by_o this_o place_n join_v with_o a_o sentence_n of_o you_o i_o conclude_v unanswerable_o our_o catholic_a doctrine_n of_o merit_n the_o reward_n which_o be_v give_v to_o he_o that_o work_v in_o regard_n of_o the_o goodness_n and_o righteousness_n of_o his_o work_n be_v give_v not_o of_o grace_n but_o of_o debt_n but_o eternal_a life_n be_v term_v a_o crown_n of_o glory_n because_o it_o be_v bestow_v 〈◊〉_d they_o which_o exercise_n righteousness_n and_o in_o regard_n of_o thâ—_n righteousness_n the_o true_a inherent_a dignity_n sanctity_n and_o purity_n of_o their_o work_n ergo_fw-la eternal_a life_n be_v a_o reward_n oâ—_n good_a work_v give_v to_o god_n child_n of_o debt_n not_o 〈◊〉_d mere_a grace_n and_o bounty_n the_o mayor_n be_v s._n paul_n by_o you_o cypher_v in_o this_o place_n the_o minor_a your_o ow_v in_o so_o many_o word_n pag._n 174._o in_o fine_a and_o 1â—9_n so_o thâ—â—_n the_o text_n of_o scripture_n by_o you_o cite_v prove_v invinciâ—bly_o the_o doctrine_n of_o merit_n against_o which_o you_o cite_v iâ—_n pag._n 558._o lin_v 4._o to_o prove_v that_o live_a saint_n have_v no_o communion_n with_o saint_n defunct_a by_o partake_v the_o superabundant_a satisfaction_n you_o cyte_v rom._n 12._o v._n 4._o we_o have_v many_o member_n in_o one_o body_n and_o every_o member_n have_v â—ot_n the_o same_o office_n this_o text_n prove_v the_o contrary_a to_o â—hat_n you_o intend_v to_o wit_n that_o satisfaction_n be_v communicable_a betwixt_o saint_n for_o from_o this_o text_n i_o argue_v thus_o if_o saint_n live_v &_o saint_n decease_v be_v member_n of_o the_o same_o body_n have_v different_a office_n than_o â—here_o must_v be_v betwixt_o they_o communion_n in_o all_o thing_n which_o superabound_v in_o some_o member_n and_o be_v neeâ—ed_v of_o other_o for_o this_o we_o see_v to_o be_v that_o fellowship_n which_o by_o the_o institution_n of_o nature_n the_o member_n of_o â—he_n same_o body_n ought_v to_o enjoy_v the_o one_o with_o the_o oâ—her_n but_o the_o myrrh_n of_o mortification_n and_o satisfaction_n superabound_v in_o many_o most_o rare_a innocent_a and_o penitent_a saint_n in_o heaven_n and_o be_v no_o less_o need_v of_o diverse_a other_o saint_n upon_o the_o earth_n that_o have_v do_v many_o sin_n and_o can_v do_v such_o great_a penance_n therefore_o the_o myrrh_n of_o superabounding_a penance_n and_o satisfaction_n aught_o to_o flow_v down_o from_o decease_a saint_n in_o heaven_n unto_o their_o fellow-member_n the_o needy_a saint_n that_o live_v on_o earth_n the_o jesuite_n 523._o jesuite_n see_v the_o reply_n pag._n 523._o say_v that_o the_o first_o precept_n thou_o shall_v love_v thy_o lord_n god_n with_o all_o thy_o hart_n etc._n etc._n bind_v not_o man_n to_o love_n god_n in_o this_o life_n with_o beatifical_a love_n nor_o to_o be_v always_o in_o actual_a employment_n of_o his_o love_n on_o he_o but_o only_o to_o love_v sincere_o and_o inward_o to_o the_o keep_n of_o all_o commandment_n without_o any_o mortal_a offence_n which_o break_v friendship_n with_o god_n desire_v though_o not_o enjoy_v the_o happiness_n of_o beatifical_a love_n this_o he_o say_v be_v the_o meaning_n of_o s._n bernard_n and_o s._n augustine_n when_o they_o say_v the_o perfection_n of_o the_o next_o life_n be_v contain_v in_o this_o precept_n to_o wit_n in_o voto_fw-la not_o in_o re_fw-mi this_o doctrine_n you_o impugn_v pag._n 525._o lin_v 26._o saying_n that_o the_o saint_n of_o god_n have_v observe_v other_o commandment_n break_v the_o first_o commandment_n and_o do_v undergo_v corporal_a pain_n after_o the_o breach_n thereof_o how_o prove_v you_o this_o marry_o you_o cypher_n heb._n 11.31_o they_o be_v stone_v they_o be_v sawen_v a_o sunder_o they_o be_v slay_v with_o the_o sword_n do_v this_o text_n prove_v the_o saint_n transgress_v the_o first_o commandment_n that_o they_o be_v corporal_o afflict_v for_o their_o not_o love_v god_n with_o all_o their_o hart_n do_v it_o not_o rather_o show_v the_o contrary_a that_o they_o love_v god_n perfect_o and_o be_v temporal_o torment_v because_o they_o so_o love_v he_o with_o all_o their_o hart_n that_o they_o will_v rather_o undergo_v most_o cruel_a and_o barbarous_a death_n then_o offend_v he_o or_o abandon_v the_o truth_n of_o his_o word_n which_o be_v as_o our_o saviour_n say_v the_o high_a degree_n of_o charity_n pag._n 10._o lin_v 20._o you_o deny_v the_o church_n to_o be_v infallible_a in_o her_o tradition_n and_o definition_n yet_o say_v you_o we_o acknowledge_v her_o lawful_a authority_n for_o expound_v scripture_n and_o maintain_v unity_n in_o right_a faith_n in_o proof_n hereof_o you_o cite_v matth._n 18.17_o who_o so_o hear_v not_o the_o church_n let_v he_o be_v to_o thou_o as_o a_o heathen_a and_o publican_n you_o can_v not_o have_v invent_v a_o text_n that_o do_v more_o invincible_o show_v the_o contrary_a of_o what_o you_o intend_v let_v we_o make_v this_o text_n of_o scripture_n the_o mayor_n and_o your_o protestant_a doctrine_n the_o minor_a and_o put_v your_o argument_n in_o form_n then_o will_v you_o see_v how_o handsome_o you_o prove_v that_o you_o acknowledge_v all_o the_o lawful_a authority_n of_o the_o church_n the_o scripture_n say_v the_o church_n be_v of_o so_o great_a &_o absolute_a &_o infallible_a authority_n that_o whosoever_o do_v not_o hear_v she_o be_v to_o be_v hold_v as_o a_o heathen_a and_o a_o publican_n protestant_n say_v the_o church_n be_v so_o subject_a to_o
all_o other_o saint_n man_n &_o angel_n be_v mediator_n and_o intercessor_n not_o have_v access_n unto_o god_n but_o by_o he_o then_o certain_o that_o saint_n mediate_v and_o intercede_v for_o we_o be_v exceed_v glorious_a unto_o christ_n jesus_n but_o catholic_n teach_v that_o saint_n be_v such_o intercessor_n as_o have_v no_o access_n unto_o god_n but_o through_o christ_n jesus_n by_o mediation_n of_o his_o merit_n passion_n and_o death_n there_o be_v no_o other_o name_n in_o heaven_n or_o in_o earth_n by_o which_o we_o be_v to_o be_v save_v therefore_o the_o doctrine_n that_o make_v saint_n subordinate_a mediator_n unto_o christ_n by_o he_o approach_v unto_o god_n do_v magnify_v and_o extol_v the_o supremacy_n of_o christ_n mediatorship_n more_o than_o if_o in_o this_o kind_n of_o mediation_n he_o have_v none_o depend_v on_o he_o whence_o i_o infer_v that_o protestant_n mistake_v our_o doctrine_n when_o they_o say_v we_o teach_v that_o saint_n be_v fellow-mediatours_a with_o christ_n and_o that_o we_o bring_v they_o in_o to_o supply_v the_o defect_n of_o his_o intercession_n that_o otherwise_o will_v not_o be_v sufficient_a this_o we_o do_v neither_o teach_v nor_o believe_v but_o that_o the_o merit_n of_o christ_n be_v infinite_a every_o drop_n of_o his_o precious_a blood_n able_a to_o pay_v the_o full_a ransom_n of_o a_o million_o of_o world_n that_o the_o saint_n mediate_v and_o intercede_v for_o we_o unto_o christ_n be_v for_o his_o great_a glory_n by_o who_o merit_n they_o be_v make_v worthy_a of_o that_o dignity_n and_o who_o by_o their_o intercession_n they_o acknowledge_v to_o be_v the_o fountain_n of_o all_o good_a that_o come_v unto_o mankind_n if_o it_o be_v a_o glory_n to_o the_o root_n of_o a_o tree_n to_o have_v many_o bough_n and_o branch_n load_v with_o excellent_a fruit_n the_o saint_n be_v but_o branch_n of_o christ_n jesus_n the_o true_a vine-tree_n john_n 15.15_o sure_o the_o honour_n of_o all_o their_o merit_n spring_v original_o &_o 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man_n intercede_v for_o he_o who_o merit_n concur_v thereunto_o only_o remote_o and_o a_o far_o off_o to_o apply_v this_o similitude_n christ_n jesus_n have_v pay_v a_o abundant_a price_n for_o man_n redemption_n yet_o none_o enjoy_v the_o benefit_n thereof_o but_o they_o to_o who_o by_o special_a grace_n he_o appli_v the_o same_o sinner_n beseech_v he_o by_o the_o merit_n of_o saint_n that_o make_v they_o gracious_a in_o his_o sight_n that_o he_o will_v vouchsafe_v to_o apply_v the_o merit_n of_o his_o passion_n unto_o they_o for_o the_o obtain_n of_o favour_n conduce_v unto_o eternal_a life_n christ_n grant_v their_o petition_n and_o request_n and_o thereupon_o apply_v his_o merit_n unto_o they_o these_o man_n can_v be_v proper_o say_v to_o be_v save_v through_o the_o merit_n of_o saint_n but_o only_o through_o the_o merit_n of_o christ_n special_o because_o even_o the_o merit_n of_o saint_n that_o concur_v thereunto_o proceed_v original_o from_o the_o merit_n of_o christ_n how_o it_o be_v lawful_a to_o appropriate_v the_o obtain_n of_o grace_n and_o cure_n unto_o saint_n §._o 6._o our_o adversary_n find_v our_o invocation_n of_o saint_n for_o substance_n practise_v in_o god_n church_n ever_o since_o her_o primitive_a time_n take_v exception_n at_o some_o circumstance_n thereof_o which_o they_o think_v new_a &_o not_o justifiable_a by_o antiquity_n which_o be_v principal_o three_o whereon_o be_v ground_v other_o three_o cause_n of_o their_o dislike_n so_o the_o sixth_o reason_n of_o their_o dislike_n be_v that_o we_o distribute_v among_o saint_n office_n of_o cure_v disease_n &_o seek_v some_o kind_n of_o favour_n of_o one_o some_o of_o another_o of_o which_o practice_n there_o be_v no_o example_n in_o antiquity_n yea_o it_o seem_v to_o resemble_v the_o levity_n of_o heathenish_a superstition_n who_o do_v multiply_v god_n according_a to_o the_o multitude_n of_o the_o thing_n they_o seek_v to_o obtain_v of_o they_o i_o answer_v that_o to_o seek_v some_o favour_n by_o the_o intercession_n of_o one_o saint_n rather_o than_o of_o another_o be_v the_o judgement_n other_o judgement_n the_o minister_n say_v the_o jesuit_n by_o father_n mean_v the_o trident_n father_n not_o the_o ancient_a father_n this_o be_v ridiculous_a for_o the_o jesuit_n say_v the_o ancient_a father_n in_o s._n augustine_n time_n that_o be_v 12._o hundred_o year_n before_o the_o council_n of_o trident._n and_o the_o minister_n can_v find_v one_o syllable_n in_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n for_o this_o appropriation_n that_o may_v breed_v suspicion_n that_o the_o jesuit_n mean_v they_o whereas_o he_o bring_v the_o practice_n and_o patronage_n of_o saint_n augustine_n himself_o prove_v by_o scripture_n this_o appropriation_n of_o miraculous_a benefit_n to_o one_o place_n and_o saint_n more_o than_o to_o another_o and_o s._n paul_n ad_fw-la hebr._fw-la 2.10_o say_n wherein_o himself_o suffer_v and_o be_v tempt_v therein_o he_o be_v potent_a to_o help_v they_o that_o be_v tempt_v show_v a_o reason_n why_o we_o shall_v invocate_v in_o some_o temptation_n rather_o some_o saint_n than_o another_o as_o s._n laurence_n against_o fire_n s._n apollonia_n against_o the_o toothache_n etc._n etc._n because_o wherein_o themselves_o be_v try_v they_o be_v special_o able_a to_o help_v other_o of_o the_o father_n in_o s._n augustine_n time_n which_o he_o himself_o practise_v upon_o this_o occasion_n in_o the_o town_n of_o hippo_n one_o of_o the_o family_n of_o s._n augustine_n accuse_v a_o priest_n of_o a_o heinous_a crime_n make_v his_o accusation_n good_a by_o oath_n which_o the_o other_o do_v reject_v in_o like_a manner_n purge_v himself_o by_o oath_n the_o fact_n be_v open_a and_o scandalous_a see_v of_o necessity_n one_o of_o they_o be_v perjure_a s._n augustine_n send_v they_o both_o into_o italy_n to_o the_o shrine_n of_o saint_n felix_n of_o nola_n at_o who_o relic_n perjure_a person_n be_v usual_o discover_v in_o defence_n of_o which_o fact_n he_o write_v a_o 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one_o that_o oppose_v the_o church_n be_v to_o be_v account_v a_o heathen_a but_o only_o such_o as_o in_o ordinat_o and_o without_o just_a cause_n oppugn_v it_o thus_o he_o pag._n 136._o i_o answer_v by_o this_o doctrine_n every_o particular_a man_n be_v make_v examiner_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n and_o her_o judge_n and_o hellish_a confusion_n bring_v into_o christendom_n if_o against_o the_o sentence_n of_o perpetual_a universal_a tradition_n a_o private_a man_n may_v without_o heresy_n pretend_v scripture_n &_o stand_v stiff_o therein_o and_o though_o the_o church_n give_v seem_v &_o appear_v answer_n unto_o his_o scripture_n yet_o condemn_v she_o say_v these_o answer_n be_v sophistical_a as_o our_o minister_n do_v p._n 581._o what_o can_v be_v more_o disorderly_a or_o what_o be_v heretical_a obstinacy_n if_o this_o be_v not_o wherefore_o s._n august_n epist_n 48._o say_v absolute_o it_o be_v impossible_a man_n shall_v have_v just_a cause_n to_o depart_v and_o impugn_v the_o whole_a christian_a church_n add_v nos_fw-la cerâ—ò_fw-la scimus_fw-la hereof_o we_o christian_n be_v sure_a and_o why_o but_o because_o it_o be_v a_o rule_v christian_a case_n he_o that_o hear_v not_o the_o church_n be_v a_o heretic_n heathen_a and_o publican_n matth._n 18._o vers_fw-la 17._o and_o as_o s._n augustine_n â—ayth_o epist._n 118._o to_o dispute_n against_o the_o whole_a church_n be_v most_o insolent_a madness_n special_o when_o the_o doctrine_n be_v ancient_a without_o any_o know_a beginning_n as_o be_v the_o suppose_a erroneous_a custom_n &_o doctrine_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n for_o then_o the_o undertake_v reformer_n must_v strive_v against_o not_o only_o the_o whole_a present_a church_n but_o also_o the_o whole_a stream_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n time_n out_o of_o mind_n since_o the_o apostle_n et_fw-la quis_fw-la ad_fw-la haec_fw-la idoneus_fw-la who_o be_v able_a to_o begin_v a_o new_a course_n of_o christianity_n and_o to_o overthrow_v that_o doctrine_n which_o be_v universal_o receyve_v &_o can_v be_v prove_v by_o any_o tradition_n of_o ancestor_n
saint_n use_v by_o way_n of_o devout_a remembrance_n they_o will_v have_v accuse_v epiphanius_n of_o impiety_n towards_o christ_n and_o his_o saint_n and_o not_o only_o of_o injustice_n in_o rent_v in_o piece_n the_o cloth_n without_o pay_v the_o price_n thereof_o say_v si_fw-la scindere_fw-la voluerat_fw-la iustum_fw-la erat_fw-la ut_fw-la aliud_fw-la daret_fw-la velum_fw-la &_o mutaret_fw-la do_v by_o this_o relation_n more_o than_o insinuate_v that_o this_o be_v the_o image_n of_o some_o profane_a man_n hang_v in_o the_o church_n as_o if_o it_o have_v be_v a_o sacred_a image_n of_o christ_n or_o of_o some_o saint_n which_o be_v gather_v by_o his_o reason_n when_o i_o see_v say_v he_o against_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o scripture_n the_o image_n of_o a_o man_n hang_v in_o the_o church_n not_o absolute_o any_o image_n as_o m._n white_n cit_v he_o for_o even_o by_o god_n express_v command_v image_n be_v place_v in_o the_o temple_n but_o the_o image_n of_o a_o man_n why_o do_v epiphanius_n so_o much_o urge_v the_o impiety_n of_o the_o fact_n in_o regard_n that_o it_o be_v the_o image_n of_o a_o man_n but_o that_o he_o understand_v by_o the_o word_n man_n a_o mere_a ordinary_a profane_a man_n not_o a_o bless_a saint_n for_o certain_o it_o may_v seem_v more_o against_o the_o authority_n of_o scripture_n to_o make_v and_o set_v up_o in_o church_n the_o image_n of_o god_n than_o the_o image_n of_o holy_a man_n &_o the_o image_n of_o christ_n according_a to_o his_o godhead_n they_o as_o he_o be_v a_o man_n so_o that_o there_o be_v no_o cause_n why_o therewith_o why_o the_o minister_n here_o set_v down_o other_o answer_v give_v by_o catholic_n unto_o this_o place_n of_o epiphanius_n some_o of_o which_o he_o will_v have_v think_v better_o than_o this_o of_o the_o jesuit_n and_o that_o the_o jesuit_n be_v slight_v by_o bellarmine_n which_o discourse_n be_v to_o little_a purpose_n this_o be_v certain_a that_o if_o other_o solution_n he_o better_o than_o this_o yet_o this_o be_v so_o good_a as_o the_o minister_n have_v not_o be_v able_a to_o speak_v a_o wise_a word_n against_o it_o as_o be_v more_o large_o show_v in_o the_o censure_n sect._n 1_o §._o 1._o and_o whereas_o some_o author_n think_v that_o epiphanius_n in_o regard_n of_o the_o error_n of_o the_o anthropomorphilae_n whereof_o he_o be_v a_o great_a enemy_n do_v reprove_v this_o image_n of_o the_o anablathan_n as_o be_v of_o god_n in_o the_o form_n of_o man_n although_o this_o conceit_n do_v not_o help_v the_o minister_n fancy_n nor_o make_v against_o we_o yet_o be_v it_o not_o so_o conform_v to_o the_o text_n as_o be_v the_o jesuit_n which_o any_o man_n may_v perceive_v that_o will_v peruse_v attentive_o the_o text_n of_o epiphanius_n and_o compare_v these_o two_o solution_n therewith_o epiphanius_n shall_v put_v so_o much_o emphasis_n in_o the_o word_n man_n have_v he_o not_o understand_v a_o profane_a man_n for_o some_o christian_n in_o those_o day_n be_v new_o convert_v from_o paganism_n and_o so_o retain_v some_o relic_n thereof_o do_v out_o of_o their_o affection_n to_o their_o decease_a friend_n and_o parent_n use_v to_o paint_v their_o image_n and_o offer_v unto_o they_o oblation_n of_o frankincense_n &_o other_o the_o like_o heathenish_a honour_n especial_o in_o their_o anniversaryes_n day_n upon_o their_o sepulchre_n these_o man_n s._n augustine_n de_fw-la mor._n eccl._n c._n 36._o reprehend_v and_o not_o the_o worshipper_n of_o saint_n image_n under_o the_o title_n of_o sepulchrorum_fw-la &_o picturarum_fw-la adoratores_fw-la who_o to_o the_o ghost_n of_o their_o parent_n defunct_a do_v though_o christian_n offer_v that_o heathenish_a worship_n which_o the_o poet_n exhort_v unto_o non_fw-la pigeat_fw-la tumulis_fw-la animas_fw-la excire_fw-la paternas_fw-la paucaque_fw-la in_o extructos_fw-la mittere_fw-la thura_fw-la rogos_fw-la parua_fw-la petunt_fw-la manes_fw-la wherefore_o see_v this_o minister_n so_o much_o esteem_v in_o the_o church_n of_o england_n in_o proof_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n change_n bring_v nothing_o but_o manifest_a falsehood_n so_o many_o in_o so_o few_o line_n any_o indifferent_a man_n may_v conclude_v that_o worship_n of_o image_n have_v continue_v without_o change_n ever_o since_o the_o apostle_n for_o if_o any_o change_n in_o such_o a_o matter_n as_o this_o have_v be_v make_v it_o will_v have_v be_v most_o evident_a when_o and_o by_o who_o so_o great_a a_o novelty_n be_v introduce_v the_o place_n of_o exodus_fw-la &_o deut._n with_o no_o probability_n urge_v against_o the_o worship_n of_o image_n by_o protestant_n that_o make_v they_o §._o 3._o against_o image-worshippe_n protestant_n bring_v the_o place_n of_o exodus_fw-la chap._n 20._o v._n 4._o and_o 5._o and_o of_o deuteronomy_n chap._n 5._o v._n 6._o and_o the_o 7._o thou_o shall_v not_o have_v false_a god_n before_o i_o thou_o shall_v not_o make_v to_o thyself_o a_o grave_a image_n or_o any_o likeness_n either_o in_o heaven_n above_o or_o on_o earth_n below_o or_o of_o thing_n that_o be_v under_o water_n or_o under_o ground_n thou_o shall_v not_o adore_v nor_o worship_v they_o which_o place_n i_o wonder_v they_o can_v think_v strong_a enough_o to_o overthrow_v a_o custom_n in_o which_o the_o rule_n of_o nature_n the_o principle_n of_o christianity_n the_o perpetual_a tradition_n of_o god_n church_n do_v settle_v christian_n for_o this_o place_n make_v against_o show_n against_o note_v that_o the_o question_n between_o we_o and_o protestant_n be_v not_o whether_o the_o image_n of_o a_o adore_a person_n may_v lawful_o be_v make_v for_o this_o they_o grant_v but_o whether_o the_o image_n of_o a_o adore_a person_n lawful_o make_v may_v be_v adore_v we_o affirm_v and_o they_o deny_v but_o for_o their_o denial_n have_v not_o one_o syllable_n of_o scripture_n the_o minister_n pag._n 259._o lin_v 3._o bring_v the_o brazen_a serpent_n and_o golden_a cherubim_n that_o be_v make_v yet_o can_v not_o be_v adore_v but_o these_o example_n be_v impertinent_a as_o have_v be_v show_v because_o they_o be_v not_o proper_a image_n of_o adore_a person_n whereof_o we_o speak_v though_o s._n hierome_n epistola_fw-la 70._o also_o say_v that_o the_o golden_a cherubim_n be_v adore_v the_o iconomachi_n the_o turk_n and_o jew_n who_o think_v that_o to_o make_v any_o image_n of_o a_o adore_a person_n be_v unlawful_a &_o consequent_o forbid_v adoration_n have_v for_o they_o a_o little_a show_n of_o scripture_n which_o say_v thou_o shall_v not_o make_v any_o image_n nor_o adore_v it_o but_o protestant_n that_o grant_v that_o the_o proper_a image_n of_o adore_a person_n may_v be_v lawful_o make_v but_o deny_v they_o may_v be_v lawful_o adore_v have_v against_o they_o the_o light_n and_o instinct_n of_o nature_n and_o for_o they_o neither_o any_o example_n of_o scripture_n nor_o any_o text_n that_o may_v make_v so_o much_o as_o a_o little_a show_n they_o or_o not_o against_o we_o which_o i_o prove_v thus_o the_o image_n we_o be_v forbid_v to_o worship_n we_o be_v forbid_v to_o make_v thou_o shall_v not_o make_v to_o thyself_o any_o grave_a image_n thou_o shall_v not_o adore_v they_o nor_o worship_v they_o contrariwise_o the_o image_n we_o may_v lawful_o make_v we_o may_v also_o lawful_o adore_v or_o worship_n if_o they_o be_v image_n of_o venerable_a and_o adorable_a person_n as_o before_o have_v be_v show_v but_o the_o image_n we_o worship_v of_o christ_n protestant_n make_n yea_o some_o to_o wit_n lutheran_n set_v they_o up_o in_o their_o church_n and_o they_o be_v image_n of_o a_o adorable_a person_n ergo_fw-la they_o can_v condemn_v our_o adoration_n of_o image_n except_o likewise_o they_o condemn_v their_o make_v they_o as_o against_o god_n law_n if_o they_o answer_v we_o be_v not_o forbid_v to_o make_v they_o but_o only_o not_o to_o make_v they_o with_o purpose_n &_o intention_n to_o adore_v they_o they_o discover_v much_o partiality_n and_o not_o so_o much_o reverence_n to_o god_n express_a 〈◊〉_d as_o they_o pretend_v for_o the_o word_n of_o god_n law_n be_v as_o clear_v and_o express_v against_o make_v of_o image_n as_o against_o worshippinge_n of_o they_o thou_o shall_v not_o make_v they_o thou_o shall_v not_o adore_v they_o if_o then_o protestant_n to_o excuse_v their_o custom_n of_o make_v of_o image_n may_v to_o god_n express_a word_n thou_o shall_v not_o make_v they_o add_v by_o way_n of_o explication_n with_o purpose_n and_o intention_n to_o adore_v they_o why_o may_v not_o they_o not_o the_o minister_n pag._n 259._o object_n that_o this_o precept_n thou_o shall_v not_o make_v to_o thyself_o a_o grave_a image_n be_v expound_v by_o the_o great_a number_n of_o papist_n to_o wit_n with_o purpose_n to_o adore_v i_o answer_v some_o catholic_a interpreter_n expound_v thou_o shall_v not_o make_v any_o image_n to_o wit_n with_o purpose_n to_o worship_v the_o same_o as_o god_n or_o with_o divine_a worship_n refer_v unto_o it_o or_o
heaven_n do_v now_o more_o help_v we_o with_o his_o prayer_n than_o ever_o he_o do_v on_o earth_n by_o teach_v and_o again_o porrigit_fw-la again_o idem_fw-la orat_fw-la in_o appulsu_fw-la episcop_n egypt_n post_fw-la paginam_fw-la ferè_fw-la à _fw-la principio_fw-la res_fw-la nostras_fw-la ut_fw-la persuasissimun_fw-la habeo_fw-la caelitùs_fw-la inspicit_fw-la &_o virtutis_fw-la causa_fw-la laborantibus_fw-la manum_fw-la porrigit_fw-la holy_a athanasius_n now_o after_o victory_n in_o so_o many_o conflict_n do_v from_o heaven_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d i_o know_v it_o well_o or_o certain_o look_v down_o upon_o our_o affair_n and_o reach_v out_o his_o hand_n to_o they_o that_o labour_n etc._n etc._n s._n sabinus_n &c._n sabinus_n sabin_n epistol_n ad_fw-la polib_n scio_fw-la &_o credo_fw-la &c._n &c._n bishop_n say_v of_o the_o holy_a father_n epiphanius_n i_o know_v and_o believe_v that_o as_o thou_o do_v obtain_v of_o god_n favour_v yet_o live_v in_o this_o world_n so_o likewise_o that_o now_o thou_o can_v do_v the_o same_o and_o much_o more_o theodoret_n etc._n theodoret_n theodoret._n in_o theophil_n cap._n 5._o planè_fw-la scio_fw-la quòd_fw-la si_fw-la sanctorum_fw-la memoriam_fw-la fecero_fw-la in_o hominibus_fw-la etc._n etc._n i_o know_v certain_o that_o if_o i_o make_v commemoration_n of_o saint_n upon_o earth_n they_o will_v be_v mindful_a of_o i_o unto_o god_n the_o second_o demonstration_n if_o the_o father_n commend_v invocation_n of_o saint_n and_o confidence_n in_o their_o merit_n as_o a_o act_n of_o christian_a religion_n promise_v assure_v comfort_n to_o they_o that_o do_v it_o with_o faith_n they_o hold_v the_o same_o as_o a_o matter_n of_o faith_n &_o as_o ground_v on_o the_o word_n of_o god_n for_o what_o but_o god_n word_n can_v be_v the_o ground_n of_o assure_a confidence_n about_o divine_a &_o supernatural_a grace_n but_o the_o father_n teach_v this_o invocation_n as_o a_o matter_n to_o be_v do_v in_o the_o assurance_n of_o faith_n and_o christian_a piety_n wherein_o their_o word_n be_v most_o clear_a s._n gregory_n nazianzen_n fide_fw-la nazianzen_n nazianzen_n orat_fw-la in_o s._n cyprian_n non_fw-fr long_a à _fw-la sine_fw-la omnia_fw-la potest_fw-la cyprianus_n &_o puluis_fw-la eius_fw-la cum_fw-la fide_fw-la exhort_v people_n to_o ask_v all_o thing_n of_o s._n cyprian_n say_v cyprian_n and_o his_o dust_n or_o sacred_a relik_n join_v with_o faith_n can_v do_v all_o thing_n s._n prudentius_n say_v supplices_fw-la say_v prudent_a hym._n in_o s._n agneten_n protegit_fw-la puro_fw-la &_o fideli_fw-la pectore_fw-la supplices_fw-la that_o s._n agnes_n protect_v and_o deliver_v all_o that_o with_o pure_a and_o faithful_a heart_n be_v suppliant_n unto_o she_o s._n chrysostome_n possunt_fw-la chrysostome_n chrysostom_n homil_n in_o sanct._n iwentium_fw-la &_o maximum_fw-la mart._n magna_fw-la fide_fw-la reliquias_fw-la eorum_fw-la contingamus_fw-la ut_fw-la inde_fw-la benedictionem_fw-la aliquam_fw-la consequamur_fw-la etc._n etc._n quaecunque_fw-la voluerint_fw-la apud_fw-la regem_fw-la caelorum_fw-la impetrare_fw-la possunt_fw-la let_v we_o often_o visit_v the_o martyr_n let_v we_o adorn_v their_o shrine_n let_v we_o with_o great_a faith_n touch_v their_o relic_n that_o thence_o we_o may_v receyve_v some_o benediction_n for_o they_o impetrate_v of_o the_o heavenly_a king_n by_o show_v their_o wound_n and_o in_o their_o hand_n their_o head_n cut_v off_o whatsoever_o they_o will_n therefore_o let_v we_o with_o great_a faith_n and_o alacrity_n resort_v unto_o they_o and_o in_o another_o place_n he_o thus_o exhort_v meritis_fw-la exhort_v idem_fw-la homil_n post_fw-la reditum_fw-la ab_fw-la exilio_fw-la credimus_fw-la nos_fw-la iwari_fw-la illorum_fw-la meritis_fw-la let_v we_o go_v to_o timothy_n a_o new_a paul_n unto_o andrew_n another_o peter_n we_o believe_v that_o we_o be_v holpen_v by_o their_o prayer_n let_v we_o go_v to_o their_o holy_a body_n which_o carry_v our_o saviour_n mark_n s._n basill_n confugiat_fw-la basill_n basil._n homil._n in_o 40._o martyr_n vbiquadraginta_n quis_fw-la dubitet_fw-la deum_fw-la esse_fw-la praesentem_fw-la qui_fw-la aliqua_fw-la premitur_fw-la angustia_fw-la ad_fw-la hos_fw-la confugiat_fw-la who_o can_v doubt_v but_o god_n be_v present_a with_o these_o forty_o martyr_n who_o promise_v to_o be_v where_o two_o or_o three_o be_v gather_v in_o his_o name_n whosoever_o be_v in_o any_o distress_n let_v he_o fly_v unto_o they_o and_o whosoever_o be_v in_o comfort_n let_v he_o pray_v unto_o they_o the_o one_o that_o he_o may_v be_v free_v from_o misery_n the_o other_o that_o he_o may_v be_v preserve_v in_o prosperity_n s._n gaudentius_n mereamur_fw-la gaudentius_n gaudent_fw-la homil_n de_fw-fr apost_n &_o mart._n tota_n sanctorum_fw-la patrocinijs_fw-la adiwandi_fw-la tota_fw-la fide_fw-la &_o omni_fw-la desiderio_fw-la supplices_fw-la etc._n etc._n ut_fw-la ipsis_fw-la intercedentibus_fw-la vniversa_fw-la quae_fw-la poscimus_fw-la adipisci_fw-la mereamur_fw-la we_o shall_v be_v holpen_v by_o the_o patronage_n of_o so_o many_o saint_n let_v we_o then_o with_o full_a faith_n and_o all_o devotion_n be_v supplyants_n unto_o they_o and_o run_v after_o their_o step_n that_o by_o their_o intercession_n we_o may_v obtain_v all_z we_o request_v s._n maximus_n faceret_fw-la maximus_n maximus_n serm_n de_fw-fr ss_z nazario_n &_o celso_n si_fw-mi martyribus_fw-la regionis_fw-la externae_fw-la pia_fw-la votorum_fw-la debita_fw-la redderemus_fw-la etc._n etc._n fides_n eos_fw-la nostros_fw-la faceret_fw-la if_o unto_o saint_n who_o body_n be_v remote_a from_o we_o we_o offer_v the_o pious_a duty_n of_o vow_n faith_n will_v make_v they_o we_o and_o how_o distant_a soever_o their_o body_n be_v from_o we_o they_o will_v afford_v we_o their_o patronage_n we_o hope_v for_o and_o again_o succepti_fw-la again_o ibidem_fw-la inuocastiubique_fw-la martyrem_fw-la ubique_fw-la te_fw-la exaudit_fw-la illâ—_n qui_fw-la honoratur_fw-la in_o martyr_n moderante_fw-la utique_fw-la eo_fw-la qui_fw-la pensat_fw-la vota_fw-la tua_fw-la &_o dispensat_fw-la munera_fw-la sva_fw-la in_o tantùm_fw-la vicina_fw-la praesentia_fw-la efficacis_fw-la praebitur_fw-la advocati_fw-la in_fw-la quantùm_fw-la fuerit_fw-la fides_n devota_fw-la succepti_fw-la do_v thou_o invocate_v the_o martyr_n every_o where_o he_o that_o be_v honour_v in_o the_o martyr_n do_v hear_v and_o will_v grant_v thy_o prayer_n every_o where_n etc._n etc._n and_o by_o how_o much_o the_o faith_n of_o the_o client_n shall_v be_v more_o devout_n by_o so_o much_o the_o assistance_n of_o the_o patron_n will_v be_v more_o efficacious_a &_o present_a theodoret_n commensa_fw-la theodoret_n theodor._n lib._n 8._o the_o curand_n graec._n affection_n gratia_n enim_fw-la quae_fw-la fectis_fw-la eorum_fw-la corporibus_fw-la pollens_fw-la vigensue_fw-la persistit_fw-la petentibus_fw-la dona_fw-la distribuit_fw-la fidei_fw-la supplicantium_fw-la liberalitatem_fw-la svam_fw-la commensa_fw-la the_o body_n of_o the_o martyr_n be_v divide_v into_o part_n &_o disperse_v over_o many_o town_n and_o city_n yet_o the_o grace_n and_o power_n remain_v entire_a and_o vigent_fw-la in_o every_o particle_n and_o they_o distribute_v gift_n unto_o petitioner_n measure_v their_o liberality_n according_a to_o the_o faith_n of_o the_o suppliant_n and_o again_o precatos_fw-la again_o ibid._n pie_n &_o fideliter_fw-la precatos_fw-la they_o who_o pray_v unto_o the_o martyr_n pious_o &_o with_o faith_n obtain_v the_o thing_n they_o most_o desire_v as_o do_v testify_v the_o gift_n they_o be_v bind_v by_o vow_n offer_v at_o their_o tomb_n manifest_a token_n of_o health_n obtain_v s._n gregory_n the_o great_a ostendunt_fw-la great_a gregor_n dialog_n l._n 2._o c._n ult._n vbi_fw-la sancti_fw-la martyr_n in_fw-la suis_fw-la corporibus_fw-la dubium_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la quod_fw-la multa_fw-la valeant_fw-la signa_fw-la demonstrare_fw-la sicut_fw-la &_o faciunt_fw-la &_o innumera_fw-la miracula_fw-la pura_fw-la ment_fw-la quaerentibus_fw-la ostendunt_fw-la no_o doubt_n but_o martyr_n at_o their_o tomb_n show_v innumerable_a miracle_n to_o they_o that_o seek_v with_o pure_a hart_n but_o because_o weak_a faith_n may_v doubt_v whether_o they_o be_v present_a so_o that_o they_o can_v hear_v where_o their_o body_n be_v not_o therefore_o oftentimes_o great_a miracle_n be_v do_v where_o their_o body_n be_v not_o but_o exauditione_fw-la but_o mens_fw-la in_o deo_fw-la fixa_fw-la tantò_fw-la maius_fw-la habet_fw-la fidei_fw-la meritum_fw-la quantò_fw-la illic_fw-la eos_fw-la &_o novit_fw-la non_fw-la iacere_fw-la &_o tamen_fw-la credit_n non_fw-la deesse_fw-la ab_fw-la exauditione_fw-la they_o who_o mind_n be_v fix_v on_o god_n have_v the_o great_a merit_n of_o faith_n in_o that_o they_o believe_v the_o saint_n to_o be_v there_o present_a to_o hear_v man_n prayer_n where_o they_o know_v they_o be_v not_o present_a in_o their_o body_n behold_v how_o full_o express_o &_o constant_o the_o father_n affirm_v invocation_n of_o saint_n with_o confidence_n in_o their_o merit_n and_o that_o they_o hear_v our_o prayer_n to_o be_v matter_n of_o piety_n &_o divine_a faith_n the_o three_o demonstration_n that_o devotion_n which_o the_o father_n praise_n honour_n &_o admire_v as_o divine_a and_o supernatural_a &_o as_o a_o testimony_n that_o christ_n be_v god_n that_o can_v plant_v the_o same_o in_o the_o world_n this_o they_o hold_v as_o a_o point_n of_o christian_a religion_n and_o as_o a_o excellent_a
saviour_n under_o the_o sacramental_a sign_n and_o that_o the_o word_n of_o our_o saviour_n this_o be_v my_o body_n be_v true_a in_o their_o proper_a and_o literal_a sense_n this_o be_v the_o reason_n that_o the_o answerer_n omit_v to_o prove_v large_o this_o catholic_a doctrine_n now_o the_o minister_n find_v himself_o unable_a upon_o this_o supposition_n of_o his_o majesty_n to_o answer_v the_o jesuit_n argument_n for_o transubstantiation_n yea_o pag._n 397._o affirm_v that_o unless_o transubstantiation_n be_v grant_v the_o word_n of_o our_o saviour_n can_v be_v true_a in_o their_o proper_a and_o literal_a sense_n hence_o he_o deny_v the_o presence_n of_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n substantial_o within_o the_o sacred_a sign_n &_o labour_v to_o prove_v that_o the_o word_n of_o the_o supper_n be_v figurative_o and_o not_o proper_o to_o be_v understand_v he_o grant_v a_o real_a and_o true_a presence_n of_o christ_n body_n in_o word_n but_o so_o obscure_o as_o no_o man_n be_v able_a to_o understand_v his_o meaning_n wherefore_o to_o clear_v this_o matter_n wherein_o minister_n desire_v to_o be_v dark_a that_o man_n may_v not_o see_v the_o gross_a infidelity_n of_o their_o hart_n against_o god_n express_a word_n i_o shall_v show_v 3._o thing_n first_o what_o zwinglians_n and_o caluinist_n hold_v in_o this_o point_n second_o how_o the_o doctrine_n both_o of_o zuinglius_fw-la &_o caluin_n be_v against_o god_n word_n three_o that_o their_o reason_n not_o to_o admit_v of_o the_o literal_a truth_n of_o christ_n word_n be_v vain_a and_o idle_a the_o zuinglian_n and_o caluinian_a religion_n about_o the_o sacrament_n §._o 1._o a_o threefold_a presence_n of_o christ_n body_n in_o the_o sacrament_n be_v confess_v on_o all_o side_n the_o first_o figurative_a or_o in_o a_o sacramental_a sign_n bread_n signify_v his_o body_n and_o wine_n his_o blood_n the_o second_o imaginative_a or_o by_o the_o pious_a apprehension_n of_o the_o faithful_a receiver_n who_o for_o more_o devotion_n sake_n do_v or_o may_v imagine_v as_o if_o he_o see_v the_o body_n of_o our_o lord_n in_o the_o eucharist_n true_o real_o and_o blee_o present_a under_o the_o sign_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n the_o three_o effectual_a or_o according_a to_o the_o spiritual_a effect_n of_o grace_n purchase_v by_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o our_o saviour_n and_o give_v by_o virtue_n of_o this_o sacrament_n unto_o the_o soul_n to_o nourish_v the_o ghostly_a life_n thereof_o as_o all_o proceed_v thus_o far_o so_o zwinglians_n will_v proceed_v no_o further_o they_o grant_v the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n to_o be_v present_a in_o the_o sacrament_n figurative_o in_o a_o sign_n imaginative_o by_o faith_n effectual_o by_o grace_n but_o deny_v they_o to_o be_v present_a according_a to_o their_o corporal_a substance_n or_o further_a then_o in_o the_o outward_a sign_n to_o the_o mouth_n and_o in_o the_o inward_a effect_n to_o the_o soul_n so_o that_o they_o grant_v the_o sacramental_a sign_n to_o be_v bare_a and_o empty_a in_o respect_n of_o contain_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n though_o full_a and_o effectual_a in_o respect_n of_o affoard_v soule-nourishing_a grace_n caluinist_n seem_v in_o their_o word_n to_o maintain_v a_o more_o real_a presence_n for_o though_o they_o maintain_v the_o substance_n of_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n in_o respect_n of_o place_n to_o be_v in_o heaven_n only_o and_o not_o in_o the_o sacrament_n yet_o they_o teach_v that_o the_o same_o body_n without_o be_v present_a upon_o earth_n be_v give_v we_o on_o earth_n not_o only_o by_o the_o apprehension_n of_o faith_n non_fw-la solùm_fw-la dum_fw-la fide_fw-la amplectimur_fw-la jesum_fw-la christum_fw-la pro_fw-la nobis_fw-la crucifixum_fw-la &_o à _fw-la mortuis_fw-la excitatum_fw-la not_o only_o in_o the_o inward_a spiritual_a effect_n of_o soule-nourishing_a grace_n purchase_v by_o the_o death_n of_o his_o body_n non_fw-la solùm_fw-la dum_fw-la bonis_fw-la eius_fw-la omnibus_fw-la quae_fw-la nobis_fw-la acquisivit_fw-la corpore_fw-la svo_fw-la efficaciter_fw-la communicamus_fw-la but_o realiter_fw-la real_o &_o true_o dum_fw-la habitat_fw-la in_o nobis_fw-la dum_fw-la unum_fw-la fit_a nobiscum_fw-la dum_fw-la eius_fw-la membra_fw-la sumus_fw-la de_fw-la carne_fw-la eius_fw-la dum_fw-la in_o unam_fw-la ut_fw-la ita_fw-la loquar_fw-la cum_fw-la ipso_fw-la substantiam_fw-la coalescimus_fw-la caluin_n in_o cap._n 11.1_o ad_fw-la cor._n hence_o we_o may_v discover_v the_o caluinian_a juggle_n and_o play_v fast_o &_o loose_v about_o this_o mystery_n when_o they_o so_o often_o say_v that_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n be_v real_o present_a but_o spiritual_o for_o the_o word_n spiritual_a may_v be_v use_v in_o this_o mystery_n for_o two_o end_n first_o to_o express_v the_o substance_n of_o the_o thing_n present_a &_o to_o signify_v the_o real_a presence_n not_o of_o the_o corporal_a substance_n of_o our_o lord_n body_n but_o only_o of_o the_o spiritual_a effect_n thereof_o to_o wit_n of_o soule-feeding_a grace_n this_o sense_n be_v false_a as_o shall_v be_v prove_v and_o the_o very_a same_o which_o caluin_n do_v condemn_v in_o the_o zwinglian_o as_o execrable_a blasphemy_n opusculo_fw-la de_fw-la coena_fw-la domini_fw-la second_o to_o express_v the_o manner_n of_o the_o presence_n and_o to_o signify_v that_o the_o corporal_a substance_n of_o our_o lord_n be_v present_v true_o yet_o in_o a_o spiritual_a that_o be_v secret_a invisible_a &_o indivisible_a manner_n this_o doctrine_n be_v true_a and_o herein_o not_o differ_v from_o the_o catholic_a in_o like_a manner_n their_o phrase_n of_o presence_n by_o faith_n be_v equivocal_a and_o may_v have_v a_o threefold_a sense_n first_o presence_n by_o faith_n may_v signify_v presence_n by_o pious_a imagination_n of_o faith_n the_o receiver_n conceave_a the_o body_n of_o our_o lord_n as_o if_o he_o see_v the_o same_o corporal_o and_o blee_o present_a if_o by_o presence_n by_o faith_n caluinist_n mean_v no_o more_o than_o this_o than_o they_o do_v not_o differ_v from_o the_o zwinglian_o nor_o do_v they_o put_v any_o more_o real_a presence_n then_o imaginative_a that_o be_v presence_n of_o thing_n according_a to_o pious_a representation_n and_o apprehension_n though_o not_o real_o &_o in_o truth_n second_o presence_n by_o faith_n may_v signify_v that_o faith_n do_v dispose_v and_o prepare_v the_o soul_n and_o that_o then_o unto_o the_o soul_n prepare_v by_o faith_n our_o saviour_n be_v unite_v real_o and_o true_o not_o according_a to_o the_o corporal_a substance_n of_o his_o body_n but_o only_o according_a to_o the_o spiritual_a effect_n of_o his_o grace_n this_o sense_n be_v also_o zuinglian_n and_o condemn_v by_o caluin_n as_o have_v be_v show_v three_o presence_n by_o faith_n may_v signify_v presence_n according_a to_o the_o judgement_n of_o faith_n or_o a_o presence_n which_o only_a faith_n can_v find_v out_o feel_v &_o behold_v this_o sense_n be_v true_a and_o catholic_a and_o do_v suppose_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n to_o be_v present_a absolute_o and_o independent_o of_o faith_n for_o be_v not_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n afore_o hand_n present_a faith_n shall_v not_o be_v true_a that_o judge_v his_o body_n to_o be_v present_a whether_o our_o minister_n be_v zuinglian_n or_o caluinist_n in_o this_o point_n god_n only_o know_v he_o speak_v obscure_o of_o purpose_n he_o never_o say_v as_o caluin_n do_v li._n 4._o institut_fw-la c._n 17._o n._n 7._o that_o by_o substantial_a communication_n the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n be_v under_o the_o sign_n of_o the_o supper_n deliver_v unto_o the_o faith_n full_a yet_o he_o say_v and_o often_o repeat_v that_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n be_v true_o real_o &_o effectual_o communicate_v these_o word_n savour_v more_o of_o the_o caluinian_a then_o of_o the_o zuinglian_n phrase_n notwithstanding_o his_o add_v effectual_o after_o true_o and_o real_o may_v draw_v the_o speech_n to_o be_v zuinglian_n in_o sense_n to_o wit_n that_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n be_v give_v true_o real_o effectual_o that_o be_v real_o accord_v to_o the_o truth_n and_o reality_n of_o the_o spiritual_a effect_n not_o real_o according_a to_o the_o truth_n and_o reality_n of_o the_o corporal_a substance_n the_o zuinglian_n and_o caluinian_a presence_n confute_v §._o 2._o the_o zuinglian_n doctrine_n that_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n be_v present_v only_o in_o a_o effectual_a sign_n of_o grace_n not_o in_o substance_n be_v against_o the_o plain_a &_o express_v word_n of_o our_o saviour_n for_o he_o do_v not_o say_v this_o be_v the_o sign_n or_o figure_n of_o my_o body_n nor_o this_o be_v the_o benefit_n or_o effect_v of_o my_o body_n but_o this_o be_v my_o body_n and_o consequent_o it_o be_v his_o body_n in_o substance_n and_o essence_n if_o the_o substantial_a verb_n est_fw-la do_v signify_v substance_n and_o essence_n hence_o luther_n epist._n ad_fw-la argent_fw-fr say_v that_o the_o word_n be_v nimis_fw-la clara_fw-la toto_fw-la clear_a and_o much_o more_o clear_a than_o he_o can_v have_v wish_v caluin_n also_o in_o cap._n
11.1_o ad_fw-la cor._n i_o hear_v say_v he_o what_o the_o word_n of_o the_o supper_n import_n for_o christ_n do_v give_v we_o not_o only_o the_o benefit_n of_o his_o death_n and_o resurrection_n but_o also_o the_o very_a body_n wherein_o he_o die_v and_o arise_v again_o from_o death_n yea_o libro_fw-la de_fw-la coena_fw-la inter_fw-la eius_fw-la opuscula_fw-la pag._n 133._o he_o say_v that_o negare_fw-la veram_fw-la corporis_fw-la &_o sanguinis_fw-la substantiam_fw-la to_o deny_v the_o true_a substance_n of_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n to_o be_v give_v in_o the_o supper_n be_v execrabilis_fw-la blasphemia_fw-la auditu_fw-la indigna_fw-es a_o execrable_a blasphemy_n against_o which_o we_o ought_v to_o stop_v our_o ear_n the_o caluinian_a doctrine_n that_o christ_n body_n be_v only_o in_o heaven_n be_v spiritual_o present_a not_o only_o by_o faith_n not_o only_o according_a to_o the_o effect_n of_o his_o grace_n but_o also_o in_o his_o bodily_a substance_n yet_o only_o unto_o the_o faithful_a receiver_n not_o unto_o the_o sacramental_a sign_n be_v both_o against_o god_n word_n and_o implicatory_a in_o reason_n first_o it_o be_v no_o less_o than_o the_o zuinglian_n against_o the_o plain_a &_o express_v word_n of_o our_o saviour_n for_o our_o saviour_n by_o say_v take_v eat_v this_o be_v my_o body_n drink_v you_o all_o of_o this_o for_o this_o be_v my_o blood_n matth._n 26._o do_v aver_v the_o sacrament_n to_o be_v his_o body_n and_o blood_n in_o respect_n of_o that_o take_n and_o eat_v unto_o which_o by_o these_o word_n he_o do_v invite_v and_o exhort_v but_o by_o this_o speech_n he_o do_v invite_v and_o exhort_v unto_o sacramental_a and_o corporal_a take_n and_o eat_v this_o appear_v by_o the_o immediate_a practice_n of_o the_o apostle_n who_o upon_o these_o word_n of_o our_o lord_n take_v the_o sacrament_n with_o their_o corporal_a mouth_n this_o also_o our_o adversaries_n can_v deny_v see_v they_o urge_v by_o virtue_n of_o these_o word_n corporal_a receive_v in_o both_o kind_n therefore_o the_o word_n of_o our_o saviour_n aver_v the_o real_a presence_n of_o his_o body_n in_o substance_n in_o respect_n of_o corporal_a take_n and_o eat_v with_o the_o mouth_n of_o flesh_n which_o doctrine_n caluinist_n stiff_o deny_v only_o hold_v the_o substantial_a communication_n of_o christ_n body_n in_o respect_n of_o spiritual_a receive_n by_o the_o faculty_n of_o the_o soul_n second_o their_o real_a presence_n be_v a_o fiction_n to_o no_o purpose_n for_o there_o be_v no_o reason_n to_o put_v the_o real_a presence_n of_o christ_n body_n in_o the_o sacrament_n but_o only_o in_o respect_n of_o verify_v the_o word_n of_o our_o saviour_n this_o be_v my_o body_n in_o a_o true_a and_o real_a sense_n so_o make_v the_o thing_n christ_n have_v in_o his_o hand_n and_o which_o be_v demonstrate_v by_o the_o pronowne_a this_o to_o be_v true_o &_o real_o his_o body_n but_o caluinist_n put_v not_o a_o presence_n which_o make_v the_o thing_n christ_n have_v in_o hand_n and_o demonstrate_v by_o the_o pronowne_a this_o to_o be_v true_o and_o real_o his_o body_n but_o only_o by_o figure_n this_o i_o prove_v that_o which_o be_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n in_o figure_n and_o show_v and_o not_o in_o substance_n be_v not_o true_o &_o real_o christ_n his_o body_n even_o as_o what_o be_v a_o man_n in_o show_n and_o figure_n not_o in_o essence_n and_o substance_n be_v not_o true_o and_o real_o a_o man_n but_o caluinist_n say_v that_o this_o or_o the_o thing_n which_o christ_n have_v in_o his_o hand_n be_v christ_n body_n in_o show_n &_o figure_n and_o not_o in_o substance_n ergo_fw-la they_o put_v not_o a_o real_a presence_n which_o make_v that_o which_o christ_n have_v in_o his_o hand_n &_o do_v demonstrate_v by_o the_o particle_n this_o to_o be_v true_o his_o body_n it_o be_v therefore_o a_o fiction_n devise_v to_o satisfy_v the_o caluinian_a fancy_n not_o the_o christian_a faith_n or_o the_o rigurous_a truth_n of_o god_n word_n three_o by_o this_o doctrine_n they_o bound_v themselves_o and_o other_o to_o believe_v a_o high_a and_o incomprehensible_a mystery_n without_o any_o necessity_n or_o compulsion_n from_o god_n word_n for_o what_o can_v be_v more_o unintelligible_a then_o that_o there_o shall_v be_v true_a and_o real_a union_n according_a to_o substance_n betwixt_o two_o distinct_a individual_a substance_n that_o be_v distant_a the_o one_o from_o the_o other_o as_o far_o as_o heaven_n be_v from_o earth_n hence_o caluin_n say_v libro_fw-la de_fw-la coena_fw-la that_o this_o be_v sublime_a &_o arduum_fw-la quod_fw-la neque_fw-la quidem_fw-la cogitation_n complecti_fw-la possimus_fw-la &_o in_o cap._n 11.1_o ad_fw-la cor._n arcanum_fw-la &_o mirificum_fw-la spiritus_fw-la sancti_fw-la opus_fw-la quod_fw-la intelligentiae_fw-la nostrae_fw-la modulo_fw-la metiri_fw-la nefas_fw-la sit_fw-la but_o the_o word_n of_o god_n do_v not_o enforce_v this_o caluinian_a mystery_n nor_o be_v there_o sufficient_a ground_n to_o 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nisi_fw-la habeat_fw-la &_o manifesta_fw-la testimonia_fw-la quorum_fw-la lumine_fw-la illustrentur_fw-la obscura_fw-la therefore_o the_o caluinian_a real_a presence_n be_v a_o mystery_n incomprehensible_a ground_v on_o mere_a figurative_a construction_n of_o god_n word_n not_o back_v by_o any_o literal_a text_n and_o consequent_o it_o be_v believe_v without_o necessity_n or_o any_o divine_a and_o supernatural_a warrant_n hence_o i_o infer_v two_o thing_n first_o that_o the_o believer_n of_o the_o caluinian_a real_a presence_n be_v unwise_a for_o what_o great_a folly_n then_o for_o man_n to_o deny_v their_o wit_n and_o break_v their_o head_n to_o believe_v a_o hard_a and_o difficile_a matter_n in_o believe_v whereof_o there_o be_v no_o merit_n of_o faith_n in_o believe_v the_o caluinian_a real_a presence_n there_o be_v no_o merit_n of_o faith_n for_o the_o merit_n of_o faith_n be_v to_o captivate_v our_o understanding_n unto_o mysterye_n clear_o deliver_v by_o the_o word_n of_o god_n not_o unto_o man_n figurative_a exposition_n thereof_o yea_o no_o figurative_a exposition_n above_o reason_n be_v to_o be_v believe_v except_o it_o be_v prove_v by_o some_o literal_a text_n or_o be_v deliver_v by_o the_o full_a tradition_n as_o god_n word_n unwritten_a second_o i_o infer_v that_o caluinist_n bear_v more_o reverence_n unto_o john_n caluin_n then_o unto_o jesus_n christ_n for_o caluins_n mystery_n be_v believe_v by_o caluinist_n be_v confess_o a_o doctrine_n most_o hard_o difficile_a incomprehensible_a and_o yet_o not_o the_o literal_a sense_n of_o god_n word_n but_o caluin_n figurative_a comment_n thereupon_a on_o the_o other_o side_n transubstantiation_n be_v acknowledge_v by_o they_o to_o be_v the_o literal_a and_o proper_a sense_n of_o the_o word_n of_o christ_n jesus_n so_o that_o without_o transubstantiation_n his_o word_n this_o be_v my_o body_n can_v be_v literal_o true_a as_o our_o minister_n do_v confess_v pag._n 397._o yet_o because_o it_o be_v hard_a difficile_a incomprehensible_a caluinist_n can_v be_v bring_v to_o believe_v it_o what_o be_v this_o but_o to_o be_v more_o ready_a to_o believe_v caluin_n then_o christ_n special_o see_v the_o mystery_n of_o christ_n literal_a sense_n be_v not_o so_o hard_a and_o un-intelligible_a as_o caluins_n figurative_a construction_n for_o one_o may_n more_o easy_o conceive_v a_o body_n to_o be_v in_o two_o place_n at_o once_o which_o the_o literal_a sense_n of_o christ_n word_n do_v enforce_v than_o a_o body_n to_o be_v true_o and_o substantial_o give_v where_o true_o and_o substantial_o it_o be_v not_o which_o be_v the_o article_n of_o faith_n by_o caluin_n figurative_a construction_n obtrude_v the_o argument_n against_o the_o literal_a sense_n of_o christ_n word_n vain_a and_o idle_a §._o 3._o the_o minister_n to_o prove_v that_o the_o word_n of_o the_o institution_n be_v to_o be_v figurative_o understand_v bring_v seven_o argument_n pag._n 391._o &_o one_o pag._n 401._o and_o three_o other_o pag._n 418._o but_o the_o first_o and_o three_o of_o these_o three_o be_v the_o same_o with_o the_o second_o
this_o mystery_n not_o accompany_v with_o many_o seem_a absurditye_n &_o repugnance_n against_o sense_n particular_o these_o four_o first_o that_o a_o body_n as_o big_a as_o our_o saviour_n remain_v still_o true_o corpulent_a in_o itself_o shall_v be_v contain_v within_o the_o compass_n of_o a_o round_a host_n scarce_o a_o inch_n long_a and_o broad_a second_o that_o a_o body_n so_o glorious_a shall_v be_v combine_v unto_o corruptible_a element_n and_o so_o make_v subject_a unto_o the_o indignity_n and_o obscenitye_n that_o may_v befall_v unto_o they_o three_o that_o the_o body_n may_v be_v in_o heaven_n and_o on_o earth_n in_o innumerable_a place_n at_o once_o four_o that_o the_o substance_n of_o bread_n be_v convert_v into_o christ_n body_n the_o sole_a accident_n remain_v by_o themselves_o perform_v the_o whole_a office_n of_o substance_n no_o less_o then_o if_o it_o be_v present_a even_o to_o the_o nutrition_n of_o man_n body_n these_o difficultye_n so_o scandalize_v protestant_n that_o some_o condemn_v transubstantiation_n as_o impossible_a yea_o as_o 3._o as_o field_n of_o the_o church_n lib._n 3._o absurd_a ridiculous_a barbarous_a other_o profess_v they_o can_v subdue_v their_o understanding_n to_o believe_v it_o as_o a_o matter_n of_o faith_n to_o give_v full_a satisfaction_n in_o this_o point_n i_o set_v down_o this_o proposition_n that_o these_o seem_a absurditye_n shall_v not_o avert_v but_o rather_o incline_v a_o true_a christian_a mind_n to_o believe_v this_o mystery_n in_o proof_n whereof_o i_o present_v unto_o your_o majesty_n these_o three_o consideration_n they_o consideration_n the_o minister_n here_o say_v that_o this_o long_a tract_n about_o god_n omnipotency_n be_v impertinent_a because_o protestant_n deny_v not_o god_n omnipotency_n but_o this_o cavil_v be_v refute_v in_o the_o censure_n sect._n 3_o §._o 3._o where_o it_o be_v show_v that_o to_o deny_v the_o literal_a sense_n of_o god_n word_n about_o the_o mysterye_n of_o our_o faith_n to_o be_v possible_a unto_o god_n be_v infidelity_n now_o protestant_n grant_v the_o holy_a eucharist_n to_o be_v a_o chief_a mystery_n of_o faith_n &_o transubstantiation_n to_o be_v the_o literal_a sense_n of_o god_n word_n about_o the_o same_o wherefore_o this_o tract_n about_o the_o divine_a omnipotency_n be_v pertinent_o bring_v against_o they_o the_o first_o consideration_n the_o first_o be_v ground_v upon_o the_o supposal_n of_o two_o thing_n most_o certain_a first_o that_o the_o primitive_a church_n preach_v unto_o pagan_n jew_n and_o other_o infidel_n the_o rest_n of_o christian_a mysterye_n as_o the_o trinity_n the_o incarnation_n the_o resurrection_n of_o the_o body_n do_v most_o careful_o keep_v as_o much_o as_o may_v be_v from_o their_o knowledge_n the_o mystery_n of_o the_o eucharist_n yea_o catechuman_n and_o novice_n be_v not_o before_o baptism_n full_o teach_v or_o instruct_v therein_o second_o the_o reason_n move_v the_o primitive_a church_n to_o be_v careful_a in_o this_o point_n be_v least_o catechuman_n &_o infidel_n be_v full_o acquaint_v with_o the_o whole_a mystery_n the_o one_o shall_v be_v scandalize_v &_o the_o other_o mock_v thereat_o hence_o it_o be_v account_v such_o a_o heinous_a offence_n that_o christian_n shall_v discover_v unto_o infidel_n or_o dispute_v about_o the_o difficultye_n thereof_o in_o their_o presence_n the_o council_n 2._o council_n council_n alexand._n apud_fw-la athanas._n apolog._n 2._o of_o alexandria_n relate_v the_o crime_n of_o arrian_n number_v this_o as_o one_o of_o the_o great_a they_o be_v not_o ashamed_a in_o public_a and_o as_o it_o be_v upon_o a_o scaffold_n to_o treat_v of_o the_o mysterye_n before_o catechuman_n and_o which_o be_v worse_o before_o pagan_n and_o a_o little_a after_o it_o 2._o it_o epist._n julij_fw-la apud_fw-la athanas_n apol._n 2._o be_v not_o lawful_a to_o publish_v the_o mysterye_n before_o they_o that_o be_v not_o initiate_v for_o fear_v pagan_n out_o of_o ignorance_n mock_v and_o catechuman_n enter_v into_o curiosity_n be_v scandalize_v and_o again_o before_o catechuman_n &_o which_o be_v more_o before_o jew_n &_o pagan_n blaspheme_v christianity_n they_o handle_v a_o question_n about_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o our_o saviour_n and_o to_o the_o same_o purpose_n saint_n ambrose_n 1._o ambrose_n ambros._n de_fw-fr myster_n initian_n c._n 1._o say_v to_o declare_v the_o mysterye_n unto_o they_o that_o be_v catechuman_n be_v no_o tradition_n but_o prodition_n see_v by_o such_o declaration_n danger_n be_v incur_v lest_o they_o be_v diwlge_v unto_o infidel_n that_o will_v scoff_n at_o they_o this_o suppose_a i_o infer_v that_o the_o seem_a absurdity_n of_o the_o catholic_a real_a presence_n shall_v encourage_v a_o true_a christian_a mind_n to_o believe_v it_o for_o a_o true_a christian_a desire_n to_o believe_v and_o firm_o cleave_v unto_o the_o real_a presence_n that_o be_v believe_v by_o the_o primitive_a church_n but_o this_o be_v a_o real_a presence_n 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