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A42315 The old Roman Catholik, as at first he was taught by Paul, in opposition to the new Roman Catholick, as of latter he is taught by the Pope the one being apostolicall, the other apostaticall : derived and proven only out of the Epistle of Paul to the Romanes : whereunto is added a clear probation that the same also was the doctrine of the primitive bishops of Rome ... discovering to all clearly the apostasie of that church from the ancient Roman fayth and puritie thereof to the noveltie of gross heresie and idolatrie, and sufficient to convince, if not convert, any papist that is not wilfully obdured / by W. Guild. Guild, William, 1586-1657. 1649 (1649) Wing G2210; ESTC R30326 38,314 116

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That the Scripture is playn in all things necessarie to Salvation And therefore is to be read by the people IN which poynt thus sayeth Gregorie Scriptura quasi quidam fluvius est planus altus in quo ag●us ambulet ●liphas natet That is The Scripture is as it were a river both eb and deep wherein a Lamb may wade and an Elephant swim Which thing moved also Augustine to say In these places sayeth hee which are clearly set down in Scripture are all these things to bee found which contayn both Fayth and Manners Lib. 2. de doctrina Christiana cap. 9. And agayn For reading of Scripture sayeth Gregorie Quid est autem scriptura sacra nisi Epistola Omnipotentis DEI ad creaturum suam That is What is the Holy Scripture then but the Epistle of the Omnipotent GOD sent vnto His creature Whence it followeth That therefore His creature should reade the same CHAP. IJ. Of the Church And 1. That the Rock spoken of MATH 16. 18. whereon CHRIST sayeth Hee will build His Church and the Popes would build their Infallibilitie is not Peter nor his successours but CHRIST only FOR thus sayeth Gregorie Ipse enim est Petra à qua Petrus nomen accepit super quam se aedificaturum Ecclesiam dixit That is For Hee Himselff is that Rock from which Peter receaved his name and vpon which hee sayd that hee would build his Church And agayn In sacriloquio sayeth hee quando in singulari numero fundamentum dicitur nullus alius nisi CHRISTUS designatur That is In Holie Scripture when in the singular number a foundation is spoken of none other is thereby to be vnderstood but CHRIST alone 2. That the True Catholick Church spoken of in the Belieff and that can not erre fundamentally totally is only the Elect And so no one particular visible Church only as Rome WHereanent sayth Gregorie Christus itaque cum tota sua Ecclesia sive quae adhuc versatur in terris sive quae ●um co regnat in coelis vna persona est sicut est vna anima quae diversa corporis membr● virificat ita totam simul Ecclesiam vnus Spiritus Sanctus vegetat illustrat That is CHRIST therefore with His whole Church whether it bee that part thereof that is on earth or that part which raygneth with Him in the Heavens is but one person and as it is but one soull that quickeneth the diverss members of the bodie Even so it is but one Holy Spirit which quickeneth and illuminateth the whole Church And a little after De hoc spiritu non vivit haereticus non vivit schismaticus That is And by this spirit neither doeth the Heretick nor Schismatick liue And agayn Intra has mensuras sunt omnes electi extra has sunt omnes reprobi etiamsi intra fidei limitem esse videantur That is Within these bounds are all the Elect and within the same are all the reprobate albeit they seem to be within the limits of believers 3. That no man on earth is Universal Bishop of the Catholick Church as the Pope claymeth nor anywyse Head thereof NO man battereth more this loftie Babell of Papall Supremacie more than Gregorie For 1. Hee calleth this name of Universall Bishop in it selff which the Patriarch of Constantinople would haue vsurped Novum prophanum vocabulum contra statuta Evangelica Canonum Decreta Lib. 4. Epist. 32. That is A new and prophane style agaynst the Precepts of the Gospell and Canons of Councells Also Superbum vocabulum A prowd tytle and a perverss Epist. 34. Lykewyse Diabolica praesumptio A divelish presumption Epist. 36. nomen blasphemiae Epist. 32. And a name of Blasphemie according to that of Revel. 17. 3. And last Scelestum vocabulum A most wicked tytle and a playn Departure from the Fayth For so hee sayeth Epist. 39. In isto enim scelesto vocaebulo consentire nihil aliud est quam fidem perdere That is To consent to this most wicked style is no other thing than to lose the Fayth 2. Hee showeth That none who was ever Bishops of Rome his Predecessours would haue any such style And 1. Peter Neminem-se vnquam vniversalem vocare voluit sayeth hee Epist. 38. That is Hee would not haue any ever to call him Universall And thereafter Nullus vnquam predecessorum meorum hoc tam prophano vocabulo vti consensit Epist. 36. That is None ever of my predecessours would consent to vse so prophane a title * And for his own practise when Eulegius Bishop of Alexandria had given him this style in a letter he sayeth Ecce in Praefatione Epistolae quam ad meipsum qui prohibui direxistis superbae appellationis verbum vniversalem me Papam dicentes imprimere curastis quod pet● dulcissima vestra sanctitas mihi vltra non faciat quia vobis substrahitur quod alteri plus quam ratio exigit prebetur And there after Recedant ergo verba quae vanitat inflant charitatem vulnerant Lib. 7. Epist. 30. That is Behold sayeth hee in the Preface of a Letter which yee directed to mee yee caused put in a prowd Title calling mee Universall Bishop or Pope which I did forbid and which I beseech your sweetest Holiness that you doe no more any such thing because that is withdrawn from you vnjustlie which agaynst right reason is given to any other Away then with such words that bloweth vp men with Vanitie and woundeth Charitie 3. Hee setteth down the reasons why such a prowd style should not be vsurped by any 1. Universa ergo Ecclesia quod absit à statu suo corruet quando is qui vocatur vniversalis cadet Lib. 4. Epist. 32. That is For then the vniversall Church sayeth hee should fall which GOD forbid when he falleth in heresie who is Universall Bishop thereof 2. Hee showeth That this were to imitate Lucifer who fell through Pryde saying Quis enim in hoc tam perverso vocabulo nisi ille ad imitandum proponitur qui despectis Angelorum legionibus secum socialiter constitutis ad culmen conatus est singularitatis erumpere vt nulli subesse solus omnibus preesse videretur Epist. 38. That is For who is set before our eyes for imitation in vsurping so prophane or wicked a Tytle but hee who despysing the legions of Angels who in one consociation were joyned with him would so aspyre to the hight of singularitie as hee would bee subject to none and would bee aboue all others himself alone as the Popes since avow in their Decretalls ‡ Last of all hee showeth that this Antichristian style and vsurpation thereof by Iohn Patriarch of Constātinople did design no other thing but that Antichrist was even at hand and that hee who did vsurp the same was his verie Fore-runner For thus hee sayeth Sed
of David according to the flesh Whence it followeth If CHRISTS Body or flesh is made only once of the seed of David that it is absurd therefore and contrary to Scripture that His body or flesh is only made by Transsubstantiation of the seed of wheat or substance of bread in the holy Sacrament and that this Transsubstantiation is as it were CHRISTS second birth or begetting as the late Iesuits affirm For so sayeth Cornelius à lapide on Isai 7. 14. By the words of Consecration as the bread is truely really transsubstantiate sayth hee so CHRIST is brought forth and as it were begotten vpon the Altar as powerfully and effectually as if CHRIST were not as yet incarnate Therefore sayeth hee The Priest is as the Virgin that bare Him the Altar is the Manger and the little Emmanuell which hee beareth is CHRIST brought forth vnder the little hostie A most monstrous and blasphemous speach whereby they will haue CHRIST not once but daylie to bee born not of the substance of the Virgin but of the substance of bread and His body not once but daylie also to bee broken and His blood shed in their idolatrous Mass. Whereas on the contrary agreeable to Scripture sayeth Theodoret and with him Pope Gelasius The mysticall signs departeth not from their own nature but remayn sayeth hee in their former substance form and figure and may bee seen and touched as they were before Rom. 8. 34. Who is hee that condemneth It is CHRIST that died yea rather that is risen agayn who is even at the Right Hand of GOD c. And as the Apostle teacheth Act. 3. 21. Whom the Heavens must contayn till the last day or restitution of all things If CHRISTS Body then wherein Hee died and rose agayn sitteth now at the Right Hand of GOD glorified in the Heavens till Hee come agayn from thence at the Last Day It followeth therefore that the Body of CHRIST is not by transsubstantiation every-where on earth between the Priests fingers in the Mass or between the teeth of the people to bee chewed in the Sacrament as is affirmed in the Popes Decretall * Wherefore when Hee was on earth Hee was not then in Heaven sayeth Vigilius and with him Fulgentius and now being in Heaven Hee is not to bee had on earth 4. That the Mass is not Propitiarie Sacrifice ROM. 6. 9. 10. Knowing that CHRIST being raysed from the dead dieth no more death hath no more dominion over Him for in that Hee died Hee died to sinne once But in that Hee liveth Hee liveth vnto GOD Seeing then that CHRIST died but once and dieth no more and that this His death was that onlie Propitiatorie Sacrifice once for ever offered on the Cross never to bee reiterated as wee are clearly taught Hbr. 9. 25. and 10. 14. Therefore it followeth That there is no Propitiatorie Sacrifice offered vp in the Mass but only a commemoration in the Sacrament of CHRISTS Death and Passion Wherefore sayeth Eusebius and with him Ambrose After that CHRIST had offered vp that admirable and excellent Sacrifice to His Father for the Salvation of all Hee instituted sayeth hee that wee should still offer vp the Rememberance of that Benefit in place of a Sacrifice to GOD But not as any Propitiatorie Sacrifice properly it selff CHAP. VII Of PURGATORIE That there is no such Place whether the Souls of the Godly go after this lyff ROM. 8. 1. There is therefore now no condemnation to them who are in CHRIST IESUS If therefore there bee no condemnation at all then after death when they are pronounced presentlie blessed and resteth from their labours they are not condemned to any Hellish and Tormenting Purgatorie Agayn Rom. 8. 33. Who shall lay any thing to the charge of GODS Elect It is GOD that justifieth And who is hee that condemneth It is CHRIST that died yea rather that is risen agayn who is even at the Right Hand of GOD and maketh intercession for vs Remark then That agaynst any thing that may bee layed to the charge of the Elect for which they may bee condemned after this lyff to any such Hellish Place or Punishment as Purgatorie there are three powerfull thinges opposed 1. GODS justifying them by a full and free Remission of all their sinnes what-so-ever and consequently from any such Hellish Punishment of them here-after 2. CHRISTS Death or Blood-shed which as Iohn testifieth purgeth vs from all Sinne and 3. CHRISTS Intercession in the Heavens which is sufficientlie powerfull to saue the Souls of His Elect after this lyf from any such fyrie Torment Wherefore sayeth Iustin Martyr After the departure of the Soull from the bodie presently is made a distinction between the good and the bad For they are carried to the Places whereof they are worthie The Souls of the Godly by the Angels being carried to Paradise where the company and sight of Angels and Archangels is as also the sight of CHRIST our SAVIOUR according to these words whill wee are absent from the body we are present with the Lord But the souls of the wicked sayeth hee are carried to Hell FINIS The Doctrine of the Primitiue Bishops of Rome whill the Faithful City became not an Harlor and her Pastours Impostours And especially the Doctrine of GREGORIE the first who lived fyue hundreth years after CHRIST is called by them for his Vertue and Learning GREGORIE THE GREAT CHAP. I. Of Scripture And 1. That the Maccabees and other Apocrypha books are not Canonicall GREGORIE speaking of the Probation of a poynt out of the Maccabees sayeth thus De qua nō inordinate agimus si ex libris etsi non canonicis sed tamen ad aedificationem Ecclesiae editis testimonium proferamus That is Of which matter wee do not disorderlie if we bring a testimonie out of these books which albeit they are not canonicall yet are set forth for the edifying of the Church And that this was the judgement and fayth of the whole Western Christian Church before and at that tyme Ierom declareth saying Hos libros legit quidem Ecclesia sed inter canonicas scripturas non recipit That is The Church indeed readeth these bookes but receaveth them not amongst Canonicall Scriptures 2. That the Scriptures without doctrinall Traditions are all sufficient for instruction of Fayth and Manners WHerein thus sayeth Gregorie In hoc volumine Omnia quae crudiunt Cuncta quae aedificant continentur That is In this Book of Scripture all things that are for instruction and all things that are for edification are contayned But as for dogmaticall traditions S●pè heretici sayeth hee dum sua student perversa astruere ea proferunt quae in sacrorum librorum paginis non continentur That is Often tymes Hereticks whyle as they endeavour to build vp their perverss doctrines they produce thinges which in the Books of Sacred Scripture are no wyse contayned 3.