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B04134 Cum bono deo. A remonstrance to the Godly party. Two maine quæries, which stand much usefull fo these our times. ... And a vindication of both. / By Andrew Logie sometime Arch-Deane of Aberdene; Penned by the author, ann. 1654, and printed 1661. Logie, Andrew. 1661 (1661) Wing L2840; ESTC R180013 29,338 52

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and admit a division or partage in the Wages or Reward IT fears me and that well justly too That in this case the strictest of you would not prove deficient to themselves but would endeavour themselves to finde out a new glosse on the words and make up a new Commentary as I am no lesse assured on the other hand That these our well Ruling-Elders with us to day would be no lesse ready to acclaime to their right and interest in this Reward if they should finde any sure or firme basis whereupon to ground their Challenge and Claim 5. Some no slenderly expert in the originall language averre That after 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 there would be required the adversative particle 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 to import a necessarie distinction 6. Some no lesse expert in this original language arcesse some ground of reason from off of the accents and grammaticall spirits to infirme and weaken this distinction or classing But I love not to straine apiculations in grāmatications Thus this very passage wherin tantum ponunt praesidij they place the full force and strength of their CAUSE petit jugulum causae it cuts the throat of their Cause and so unde illi vitam nos mortem This poor wandering Levite must harbour and rest with the Godly Party forsooth finding no where else in Heaven or upon Earth an harbouring or sheltering place No wonder that such a Heterogenious body compacted of such dissimilary parts should suffer such a sudden dissolution Thus it is evident that we must needs go elswher to seek out their generation then from Gods Word or yet sound Antiquity In a word they were 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 foetus necessitatis the birth and brood of Necessity for we find no use for them to day except in such a case where a bussines or work in hand cannot be effectuated and brought to passe but by the subsidiary help of their suffrage Majori parte vincente saniorem which else in reason or by force of Argument would fall short May it not justly seeme according to Gamaliel his decision in a congener case That this Counsell or this work hath not been of God but of men Act. 5.38.39 seing it is so soon come to nought for there is no use of them now their worke being accomplished which they intended or in case of any new emergent bussines calling for their subsidiary help to hold up that ruinous and decaying Fabrick and structure so that for the best they are but Nocturni Fungi ex nocturna pluvia nati or an untimous birth and abortion no sooner brought to light then expired THE SECOND QVAERE THe Second Quaere is If our Cōmission of Church did rightlie determine anent the receiving in of Nuncupative Malignants into the bosome of their Army to fight pro Patria pro aris et focis for KING Countrey Religion Lives Liberties Fortunes in such a nick of time and exigence of affairs against Forraigne invasion of so dangerous an Enemy infesting the whole Kingdom and seeking to overturne and raze all frō the very foundation or pronounced therein Clave errante Numerò If that stood an Vnlawfull Engagement with the Godly Party or men of godly understanding IT marvels mee not a little how the Question can be thus stated and modelled whereas adhuc sub Judice lis est which of these two contesting Parties Herodians or Pharisees so to speak should be thus branded with the Note of Malignancy I beleeve That Veritas which is Filia temporis TRUETH which stands the daughter of time hath given us some farther light and clearer insight in this bussinesse For how have they I pray you acquitted thēselves here who were so much cryed up for sole men of known integrity Have they not detected to the world their deepe masked hypocrisie and so bred more nor just matter of jealousie in the hearts of all these who are of truly godly understanding Coelum et terram hîc in testes advocare possem 2. Is it not strange That our new start up Protestators should so maligne men under this name and notion of Malignancy whereas they roundly professe their ignorance here of the true Notes and marks from whence they may be discerned and dignosced as the Desire or Petition put up by them The sole Nuncupative Godly Party or men of Godly understanding to that Venerable Assembly at Edinburgh anno 52. for their information hereanent in their 3. Proposition bears instructs to the full Now is it not more nor strange That they should have so maligned men under this name and notion whereas it is not yet conveened upon and condescended what stand these Notes and marks Vbi nulla lex ibi nulla trāsgressio where there is no Law there can be no Transgression May it not justly seeme That Malignancy receives subinde new Notes and Characters or Marks according to the various revolution of Cases and exigence of times or rather men their brain-sick apprehended fancies Nonne haec Ecclesia in Maligno posita est Et quae non animā justè odit coetum hujusmodi Malignantium 3. I would gladly understand the Reason or discrepance here where I promise to yeeld my self docil and teachable Why the Non-conformists at first These who found not themselves fully satisfied with the publick Resolutions of our Church whiles this work was but in it Infancy as it were and so when as I beleeve it stood more veniall and pardonable to have scrupled theranent were branded with this Note of Infamy and Reproach yea and most cruelly persecuted as it wer with fire and sword And the Non-conformists now so avowedly protesting against all their publick Resolutions and opposing themselves with an high hand when this work is come to a perfection to the stature of a Perfect man shall not onely go unbranded but go under the name of the Godly Party or men of godly understanding and shall go over these dangerous rocks without the least Jacture or Naufrage yea turgidis velis vento secnudo nay and should be sealed in their fore-heads with a Noli me tangere What! Is your so glorious a Sun come to so sudden a declining How is the faithfull City become a harlote how is your silver become drosse and your wine mixed with water how is the strong staffe broken and the beautifull Rod I dare be bold to averre That the Approbation at first of the publick Resolutions of Church stood to many Cyphers both in State and Church who in effect stood more expletive then significative Their best qualification and endowment yea stood the sole means of their advancement to the highest roomes in both A blind Obedience out of an implicite faith stood for all qualifications else and an approven and evidenced activity to promove the great glorious worke in hand This was Panchrestū panacaea a soveraign salve against all sores Omnibus malis averrumcandis pollens Alexipharmacum yea vestis talaris a faire and goodly rob to
all obligatory I pray you Is the different estimation of dayes a principle of divine irrefragable and immutable verity I beleeve besides that both in the Jewish Christian-Church some Dayes have been had in greater veneration That the Apostle willeth every one anent his different estimation of them Rom. 14. to labour for a pleroforie or fulnesse of assurance for his acting hereanent Let each of these him who esteemeth one day above another him who puts no difference here but esteemeth every day a-like do it to the Lord and all shall go right The kingdome of God stands not in meat drink where omnia congenerae are to be understood but in righteousnesse and peace and joy in the Holy Ghost alace whereas they have so busily and painfullie gone about to bring in a Reformation in Circumstantials or matters of a midle nature or indifferency they have inverted and overturned many substantials nay Luxarunt et laxarunt Compagem utriusque Tabulae 13. What needed you to scruple much here anent the chāge and alteration of this Principle Anent the qualification of men to be received into the bosome of an Army whereas you made no conscience to invert overturne a Principle of far higher Nature and greater Concernment viz. That having sworne in Covenant to maintaine the KINGS just Greatnes where under this word just experience hath proven many hid pieces of dishonesty to have lyen lurking Authority you surrendred Him into the hands of His Enemies IT cannot but wonder me you should straine a Gnate having swallowed a Camel Was this to make conscience of that sacred oath tendred by you to maintaine His Sacred Person and just Greatnesse In an Oath we ought no lesse heedily to look Cui then quid juraverimus as the schoolmen teach us whose Name is interponed the sacred Name of God Whom-unto rather then where-unto As David reported well to Abner I. Sam. 26.15 with no lesse just matter may I here to you Were not ye onely men of known integrity the Charactarized Ones and none like you in all the kingdome for Loyalty valour gallantry wherfore did not you keep better your LORD the KING wheras a cōmon Enemy was seeking His overthrow of this whole kingdom Alace wheras formerly we were accounted men of unstained and untainted Loyalty yea and of no small valour provesse throughout all Nations as that we were admitted received by forraign Kings to stand their Guardians or guard du Corps as they speak Now with Reuben we have fallen frō our dignity and lossed our excellency and most justly incurred the staine note of Infamy at home in that we tendred not more the preservation safety of our KING to our everlasting diffamation and never dying reproach loquetur posteritas whereas you fondly pretexe for your justification that they keeped not Covenāt here with you or Capitulation This will not cover your nakednes but your heels shall be found bare for Non faciendum malum ut eveniat bonum we must not do evill that good may come of it far lesse for an uncertaine after-good commit a certain present evill Is not our whole duty we owe our KING borne upon us by Negatives Now as the Schoolmen teach us here Negative precepts or Cōmands bind and obliege as ad semper so pro semper as to all times so for all times Nay doth not the Scripure bind up the whole man and the whole of man here totum hominem et totum hominis tongue hand thought so that albeit cogitationis poenam nemo patiatur in foro soli in foro popoli it goeth not unpunished so that it is not safe for us to curse the King no not in our thought Eccl. 10.20 and it is worthy our best and narrowest remark who shall stand the discovers or revealers hereof for a bird of the ayre shall carry the voice and that which hath wings shall tell the matter May not this strick us with feare terrour to prove deficient in our bonden duty to out Sacred and dread SOVERAIGN As we reply to Papists going about to justifie their Idolatry averring that they set up Images non ad culium sed ad usum historicum That it is better and safer lapidem offendiculi è via consulari tollere quàm ponere with whatsomever Cautions or Caveats over the head of it so may I here IT had proven better safer to have keeped our LORD the KING and capitulated with them then upon the surrendering of Him into their hands to trust to their after-Capitulation Do not your Ministery discover both your their own Skirts wheras from Chayre they make bold to attest God how evill yee stand acquitted for your Loyaltie and good service done them which hath proven disloyaltie and bad service to your Supreame LORD of Heaven and His Deputy upon earth IT is a received MAXIME Quod quis per alium facit hoe per se meritè facere videtur yea there is another to the same purpose Quod quis non vetat cū potest quod vetare tenetur is jubet Thus I see not how you can stand free of the crying bloud-guilt of your Sacred SOVERAIGN Do not I pray you S. Ambrose yea and Gregory too averre Non carere scrupulo societatis occulto ubi quis manifesto sceleri desinit obviare I dare be bold to averre That unsoundnes of Doctrine hath done no lesse harm then the Sword of Persecution throughout the whole bussines As is recorded of ARRIUS Heresie That it did more hurt to the Church of God then the ten bloudie Persecutions IT fears me That it may be truely said of our Church for all the cryed up glorie of this great and glorious work of Reformation That her works are not to be found perfect before God as is said of the Church of Sardis Revel 3.2 Nay And that Christ hath not a few things against her as is said of the Church of Pergamus Revel 2.12 14. I cannot understand upon what warrantable ground this can be goodly called a Principle To deny fellow-subjects libertie to fight pro patria pro aris et focis for KING and Kingdome whereas Wise Solomon determines quite to the contrarie for he shews that In the multitude of people stands or consists the Kings honour as on the other hand In this defect or want His destruction Prov. 14.28 The truth and smart whereof wee have found by sad and dolefull experience For Closure Let me recommend both to State and Church throughout this kingdome Mordicai his healthfull advice to queene Esther For if thou altogether holdest thy peace at this time then shall there Enlargement and deliverance arise to the Jews from another place but thou and thy fathers house shall be destroyed Esther 4.14 So accomodate ad subjectum by accomodation to the subject or purpose in hand If you shall prove deficient and wanting to represse yea and redresse all formerly Disorders both in State and Church and carefully repaire by gone slipps misgivings these shall prove but the bare and naked beginnings of greater After-sorrows and Calamities and God shall not faile or prove wanting to foresee and provide for the good and well of His own Zion As on the other hand Queen Esther her practise in undertaking the sute by taking her life as it were in her hād If I perish I perish to your imitation That so disrespecting as it were the quality of whatsoever opposers and laying aside all Panik-fears you would endevour to break thorow all contrary Letts and thwarting obstacles make the peace of State and Church your chiefest joy aime and that so according to Christs prescription you would at last Render to Caesar the things that be Caesars as to God the things that are Gods Nay I would wish from mine heart That as you have committed by following Achitophelian counsell a transcendent exorbitant and unparelleled Transgression by surrendering up of your KING into the hands of His cruell bloudie Enemies yea whereas Hee came of His own accord under your wings to trust whereby you have done what in you lay to precide and cut off all just hopes of all after Reconciliation So now following the example of the Aramits you would in all submission and out of a deep resentment of guilt and sorrow stay and present your selves to His Son your Sacred and dread now SOVERAIGN with rops about your necks relying on His Merciefulnes you might yet expect some favourable aspects respects for NOBILIS EST IRA LEONIS parcere subjectis et debellare superbos And sure I am That He will account it His no lesse glory to succeed His Royall FATHER of Blessed and never dying Memory Who lived a SAINT and dyed a MARTYRE in and to His most rare and commendable Christian Vertues then in and to His Crownes Printed by James Brown APRIL 1661.