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A14435	A very Christian, learned, and briefe discourse, concerning the true, ancient, and Catholicke faith, against all wicked vp-start heresies seruing very profitably for a preseruatiue against the profane nouelties of papists, Anabaptists, Arrians, Brownists, and all other sectaries. First composed by Vincentius Lirinensis in Latine, about twelue hundreth yeares ago. And now faithfully translated into English, and illustrated with certaine marginall notes. By Thomas Tuke.; Pro catholicae fidei antiquitate libellus. English	Vincent, of Lérins, Saint, d. ca. 450.; Tuke, Thomas, d. 1657. aut	1611 (1611)	STC 24753; ESTC S102090	49,335	192

sake vse the ensamples of things secular and which are vsed of the Manichees whenas a Tragicall Player doth counterfeit a Priest or a King hee is neither a Priest nor a King for the action ceasing those things also cease together which that person had represented But from vs farre bee this cursed wicked mockery Let this madnesse be the Manichees who being phantasticall Preachers affirme that the Sonne of God who is God was not a man truely and substancially but that hee resembled man by a certaine imaginary act and conuersation But the Catholicke faith doth so say that the Word of God was made Man that hee tooke vpon him our nature and properties not deceitfully and in shew but truly and liuely and that he did not resemble those things which belong to the nature of man as not his owne but that hee did sustaine them rather as being his owne and that hee was altogether also the very thing which hee did resemble Euen as we our selues also in that we speake vnderstand liue and subsist wee doe not represent men but wee are men For neither Peter and Iohn that we may especially speake of them were men by imitating but by subsisting In like maner Paul did not counterfeit an Apostle or resemble Paul but hee was an Apostle and Paul indeede Euen so also God the Word by assuming and hauing the flesh and by speaking doing and suffering by the flesh yet without any corruption of his nature vouchsafed verily to performe this that hee might not resemble or counterfeit a perfect man but exhibite that hee might not seeme or be thought to bee a true man but that hee might subsist and bee one indeede Therefore as the soule vnited to the flesh but yet not turned into flesh doth not resemble a man but is a man is a man not in shew but in substance so also the Word God by vniting himselfe vnto man without any cōuersion of himselfe was made man not by cōfusion not by imitation but by subsisting Let vs therefore vtterly reiect all conceipt of that person which is vsurped by counterfeiting resembling where alwaies one thing is and another thing is counterfeited where hee that doth act or represent is neuer he whom he doth act For farre bee it from vs to thinke that God the Word hath taken vpon him the person of man in this deceiptfull manner but rather so as that his substance continuing vnchangeable and by taking vpon him the nature of a perfect man he might himselfe be flesh a man the person of a man not counterfeit but true not by resemblance but in substance To conclude not such a one as ceaseth with the action or representatiō but which alway abideth in the substance This vnity therefore of person in Christ was not made and perfected after the Virgin had brought him forth but in the very wombe of the Uirgin CHAP. 21. FOr we must be very wary that we doe confesse that Christ not onely is one but also that he was alwayes one because it is intolerable blasphemy though thou shouldest grant him to be one person now yet to auouch that he was sometime not one but two to wit one after the time of his Baptisme but two at the time of his Birth Which exceeding great sacriledge surely we shall not be able otherwise to auoid but by confessing that man was vnited to God in the vnity of person not at his ascension or resurrection or Baptisme but euen now in his mother euen in the wombe yea euen in the very conception of the Virgin by reason of which vnity of person those things that are proper vnto God are indifferently and in common giuen to him being man and those things that are proper to the flesh are ascribed vnto God For thence it is that the holy Scriptures say both that the Sonne of Man came downe from heauen and that the Lord of glory was crucified vpon earth Thence also it is that because the flesh of the Lord was made because the flesh of the Lord was created the very word of God is said to be made the wisedome of God is sayd to be filled the Science or knowledge of God is sayd to be created euen as in respect of fore-knowledge his hands his feet are sayd to be peirced In regard I say of this vnity of person that also hath by reason of the like mysterie proceeded that because the Flesh of the word was borne of his Uirgin-mother that therefore God the word himselfe should be most catholickly beleeued to be borne of the Virgin and most wickedly denied Which things seeing they thus are God forbid that any man should go about to depriue holy Mary of the priuiledges of diuine fauour as a speciall glory For she is through a certaine singular benefit of our Lord and God and her owne Sonne to be most truly and most happily confessed the Mother of God But she is not so the mother of God as a certaine wicked heresie surmiseth which affirmeth that she is to be sayd to be the mother of God in name onely as who forsooth did bring forth that man which was afterwards made God as we call one the mother of a Priest or the mother of a Bishop not because she did bring forth one that was at his very birth a Priest or Bishop but for that she brought one forth that was afterwards made a Priest or Bishop Holy Mary is not I say so to be called the mother of God but therefore rather because as hath beene sayd before that holy mystery was accomplished euen in her sacred wombe since by reason of a certaine singular and indiuiduall vnitie of person as the Word in the flesh is flesh so man in God is God CHAP. 22. BVt now according to those things which haue beene briefly sayd before concerning the foresayd heresies and the Catholicke faith let vs for the refreshing of memory make a briefer and shorter rehearsall to the end verily both that being repeated they might be better vnderstood and that being pressed they might more surely be remembred Accursed therefore be Photinus for not acknowledging three distinct persons for affirming Christ to bee no more then a bare man Accursed be Apollinaris that affirmeth the corruption of the Diuinitie changed in Christ and denieth the property of a perfect manhead Accursed be Nestorius which denieth that God was borne of the Virgin and affirmeth there are two Christs reiecting the faith of the Trinitie bringeth in amongst vs a quaternity But blessed be the Catholicke Church which worshippeth one God in a perfect Trinity and the equality also of the Trinity in one Diuinitie so as that neither the singularitie of the substance confoundeth the propertie of the persons nor the distinction of the Trinitie separate the vnitie of the Deity Blessed I say be the Church which beleeueth that there are two true and perfect substances in Christ but yet one person of Christ so

LONDON Printed for Leonard Becket and are to be sold at his Shop in the Temple neere the Church 1611. A VERY CHRISTIAN LEARNED and briefe Discourse concerning the true ancient and Catholicke Faith against all wicked vp-start Heresies Seruing very profitably for a Preseruatiue against the profane Nouelties of Papists Anabaptists Arrians Brownists and all other Sectaries First composed by Vincentius Lirinensis in Latine about twelue hundreth yeares ago And now faithfully translated into English and illustrated with certaine Marginall Notes By THOMAS TVKE Imprinted at London for Leonard Becket and are to be sold at his shop in the Inner Temple 1611. TO THE RIGHT worshipfull Sir IOHN LEVENTHORPE knight and to the right vertuous Lady Ioanna his wife all happinesse earthly and heauenly RIght Worshipfull great is the peruersenesse of Mans nature as may appeare by the multitude of errors and false religions of the which the world is now sicke euen vnto death For the Iewe hath his the Turke his the Indians theirs the Papist his yea and almost euery man is ready to turne his fansy into faith so common is this kind of Alchymie and to make doctrines of his owne deuises so fond we are by reason of selfe-loue and the blindnesse of our minds But as Eli sayd this is not well For there is but one true Religion and as Leo saith Faith is either One or None Now because there are so many religions in the world therefore some will be of none but stand as it were amazed not knowing what course to take like the fool that Salomon speakes of which knowes not the way into the Citty It behooues vs therefore seeing such variety of professions to looke before we leape to sound the waters before we hoyse vp our sailes for heauen is no harbor for heretickes no common Inne for all kinds of Trauellers I meane afore all to consult with the written word of God the oracle of truth the ground of faith a lanterne to our feet a light vnto our path is profitable to teach to conuince to correct and instruct in righteousnesse that the mā of God maybe absolute Heare saith S. Austin Thus saith the Lord not thus saith Donatus or Rogatus or Vincentius or Hilary or Austin but Thus saith the Lord. To the Law and to the Testimony saith Esay if they speake not according to this word it is because there is no light in them By the Scripture God speaketh his whole will saith Gregory If therefore men would in the true feare of God and lowlinesse of spirit desire diuine direction and attend vnto the word vndoubtedly they should see their way before them and could not be so transported of Impostors as they vse to be For them that be meeke will he guide in iudgement and teach the humble his way What man is he that feareth the Lord Him will he teach the way which he shall chuse The secret of the Lord is reuealed to them that feare him and his couenant to giue them vnderstanding And as our Sauiour speaketh Whatsoeuer ye shall aske the Father in my Name he will giue it you So then if we will not giue eare vnto Man but vnto God if we will not trust vnto our owne wings but seeke for aide of him we may boldly expect assistance of him according to his word And because to begin a course well is nothing vnlesse a man continue constant in it therefore it behoues vs to cleaue fast vnto the faith auoiding all impostures of Heretickes whatsoeuer For the furtherance hereof this Treatise was first written in Latine aboue a thousand yeares agoe by a learned and godly Frenchman whose authority is nothing lesse to be respected for his Monasticke kinde of liuing considering that our moderne Monkes haue almost nothing of Antiquity besides their name And for the same purpose we haue turn'd it into English desiring the Almightie to bedew the same with the blessing of his grace My labour I account as due to the Church in generall and abundantly deserued of you both in particular if therefore you shall accept it I shall haue my full desire The God of heauen and earth preserue you by his grace that after this life on Earth ye may be presented to Iesus Christ to liue in heauen with him in eternall glory Amen London S. Clem. April 14. 1611. Your VVorships in Christ Iesus to be commanded Thomas Tuke To The Reader THERE are three sorts of men for whō I haue translated this little booke The first are they that heare their fathers instruction and despise not the gouernement of their mother whom I desire God vpon my knees to keepe free from the poyson and peruersnesse of all Heretickes and Schismatickes whatsoeuer The second are they that are mis-led by Romish Impostors into many grosse and nouell errours such as the Scriptures and antient Doctors vtterly condemne as may easily be seene by viewing sundry workes of diuers learned men amongst vs either written or turned into English The chiefest cause of of whose erring partly consists in an incredible credit which they giue vnto their Teachers and partly in their owne wonderfull ignorance of the holy Scriptures which might inlighten their eies and informe their iudgements It is written of Naash that he would make a couenant with the men of Iabesh Gilead vpon condition that he might thrust out all their right eies euen so surely the Diuell delights in nothing more then in putting out mens eyes and in captiuating their vnderstanding which is as the right eye of the soule that being blinded he may leade them at his pleasure But if it would please them to search the Scriptures as Christ exhorteth and to consider of the Catholicke doctrine of the antient Church euen to the times wherein this our Author liued I doubt not but that the scales of ignorance would fall from their eyes and that those mists would be soone dispersed which Satan casts before them The third are such as are not much offended at the doctrines of the Church but condemne her gouernment and stumble at her Ceremonies which yet are neither vndecent nor superstitious or numerous and such as neither Gods word forbiddeth nor any approued Church in the Christian world condemneth as they are commanded by this Church entertained Now see heere what strange conceipts and doctrines are deuised and defended of them such as haue no foot-step in the Scripture no fellowship with Antiquity 1. It is affirmed that The true and right gouernment of the Christian Churches is a certaine Democratie 2. That a prouinciall Church is Contrary to the testament of Christ Hereupon Henry Iacob in an Epistle prefixed to a booke lately printed at Leyden labours for a Separation 3. That humane ceremonies being once abused cannot bee purged but by vtter abolishion 4. That it is out of all doubt that Christ sate or lay at his last Supper or thus that it is not

that neither the distinction of the natures diuideth the vnitie of the person nor the vnitie of the person confounds the difference of the substances Blessed I say be the Church which that it might acknowledge that Christ both is was euer one confesseth that man was vnited to God not after his birth but now euen in the mothers wombe Blessed I say be the Church which vnderstandeth that God was made man not by the conuersion of nature but in regard of person person I say not counterfeit and transient but substantiall and permanent I say blessed bee the Church which affirmeth that this vnity of person is so effectuall as that by reason thereof the things of God are by a wonderfull and vnspeakable mysterie ascribed vnto man and the things of man ascribed vnto God For because of that vnitie it doth not deny that man descended from heauen in respect of the God-head and hath belieued that God was made vpon earth that he suffered and was crucified in regard of the Manhead To conclude by reason of that vnity she doth acknowledge Man to be the Sonne of God and God to be the Sonne of the Virgin Holy therefore and venerable blessed and inuiolable and to that celestiall praising performed of the Angels altogether comparable be this confession which glorifies God with a threefold sanctification For therefore it doth especially tel and glory of the vnitie of Christ least the mysterie of the Trinity should exceed Be these things spoken by way of digressing else where if God shall please they are more largely to be treated of and vnfolded Let vs now returne vnto our purpose CHAP. 23. VVE sayd therefore before that in the Church of God the Teachers error was the peoples temptation and that the tentation was so much the greater by how the the learneder he was that did erre Which we taught first by the authority of Scripture and then by Ecclesiasticall examples to wit by reckoning vp them that though they were for a time accounted sound in the faith yet at the last did either fall into the sect of some other or else deuised an heresie of their owne A matter doubtlesse of great moment both commodious to learne and necessary to be thought of and remembred the which wee ought diligently to illustrate and inculcate with the multitude of ensamples that all Catholikes for the most part may know That they ought with the Church to receiue teachers and not that they should with teachers forsake the faith that the Church embraceth But in my conceit though we might recken vp a number in this kind of tempting yet was there almost none that was so great a temptation as was Origen in whome there were many things so excellent so singular and so admirable that any man might easily iudge at first that all his assertions were to be belieued For if the life doth win authority his industry his chastity patience and sufferance was not small if either kindred or learning Who more noble then he who at the first was borne in that family which was made illustrious by Martyrdome And afterwards hauing for Christ lost not his father onely but all his substance also he did profit so much within the straites of holy pouerty he did often as they say susteine afflictions for confessing the Lord. Neither indeed were these things onely in him all which might afterwards proue a tentation but hee had also such a notable wit so profound so acute and so fine that he did much and farre surpasse almost all and so great was the skill of this notable man in all knowledge and learning as that there were but few things in diuine philosophy of humane it may be almost none which hee did not thorowly vnderstand Who when he had atteined to the learning of the Greekes he gaue himselfe also to the study of the Hebrew But why should I speake of eloquence whose speech was so pleasant so delectable and so sweete that not words me thinkes so much as hony seemed to flow out of his mouth What incredible things did he bolt out and cleer by the force of disputation What things seeming hard to be done did not he make that they should seeme most easie But he woue his assertions it may be onely with the knots of arguments Yea doubtlesse there was neuer any Teacher which vsed more examples or proofes of holy writ But he wrote I beleeue but little No man writ more that I thinke all his works cannot onely not be read ouer but indeede not so much as found And who also that he might not want any helpe to knowledge was furnished with ripenesse of age But perhaps he was not very happy in Disciples Who euer more happy For out of his bosome sprang innumerable Teachers an infinity of Priests Confessors and Martyers And now what man is able to conceiue in what admiration in what renowne and grace he was in with all men What man a little more deuout then ordinary did not with speed resort vnto him from the farthest quarters of the world What Christian did not reuerence him almost as a Prophet what Philosopher honor'd him not as a Maister And how reuerend he was accounted not onely among priuate men but euen of the chiefest in the Empire the Stories doe declare which say that he was sent for by the mother of Alexander the Emperour intruth because of heauenly wisedome which also he did much affect loue But the epistles also of the same mā beare witnes which he wrot by the authority of Christian Teacher to Emperour Philip who was the first Christian of all the Romane Princes Concerning whose incredible knowledge if any man beleeue not a Christian testimony we being the relators let him at the lest receiue a Pagan confession the Philosophers being the witnesses For that wicked Porphicie saith that being moued with his fame he went being in a manner but a boy to Alexandria and that he sawe him there being now an olde man but indeede so notably qualified as one that had attained to the height of all learning The day would sooner faile me then I shall be able to touch euen the smallest part of those excellent things which were in that man which notwithstanding did not only perteine to the glory of religion but also to the greatnesse of temptation For what man among a thousand would easily cast off from him a man of such an excellent wit so great a scholler and of so great account and not rather vse that sentēce That he had rather erre with Origen then iudge truly with other men But what should I make many words It so fell out that not some humane but as the euent declared a too dangerous temptation made by so great a person so great a Teacher so great a Prophet did draw very many frō the soundnesse of the Faith Wherefore this Origen so great and so