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A09880 A consideration of the depriued and silenced ministers arguments, for their restitution to the vse and libertie of their ministerie exhibited in their late supplication, vnto the honorable states assembled in this present Parliament. By Gabriel Powel. Powel, Gabriel, 1576-1611. 1606 (1606) STC 20142; ESTC S120763 50,016 84

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Ministers of Christ sent by God and in grace fauor with God Not to speake for them is to spare speech for God himselfe for Christ Iesus Ex. 16.2.1 Sa. 8.7 Lu. 10.16 for the euerlasting saluation of many thousand soules Ergo. The Honorable and high Court of Parliament ought to intercede with his Maiestie for them ANSWER I. To the Antecedent WE willingly grant that the Refractary Ministers are indeed the Ministers of Christ in the ministration of his Gospel neither is their calling brought in question we hope also that they are sent by GOD in grace and fauor with GOD. Yet must they remember that their Sanctification being in part they haue but their measure of giftes graces for our knowledge is but in part as the Apostle testifieth therefore that they may be ignorant ouerseene in some things wherein they ought not to flatter themselues but by al meanes labour to come to vnderstanding that they may attaine vnto the knowledge of the trueth 2. It is true also that not to speake and take paines for the Ministers of the Gospell for such things as properly belong vnto their Ministerie or are requisite vnto the performance thereof is to spare speech for GOD and for Iesus Christ according vnto the places quoted in the Argument and also to hinder the saluation of Gods people 3. The Errour is 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 This is not the Refractary Ministers case wherefore I answere II. To the Consequence 1. If the Suppliants had prayed your High Court of Parliament to intreate in their behalfe for matters which had necessarily concerned the Gospel of Christ or their Ministerie thereof or the Saluation of many thousand Soules then had your Honorable Assemblie some reason to mediate for them But seeing it is but onely to free them from the Crosse and Surplice and such other laudable ceremonies of our Church commanded for order and decencie sake which may well stand with the purity of the Gospell seeing the kingdome of heauen standes not in meate and drinke c. Then haue these importunate Suppliants greater reason patiently to beare that burden in the diligent applying their vocation and calling then to trouble your Wisdomes with such petty and small matters 2. The Errour is two fold 1. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 2. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 II. ARGVMENT IT is also to be considered that the ministery of the Gospell is not onely for earthly men but also a) An absurde Paradore for heauenly Angels Therefore as the Cherubins were commaunded to be set with their faces towards the Mercy seate Exod. 25.20 as looking and listening after the Oracles of God that should be giuen from the mercy seate to the Church so it is not onely somewhat obscurely said concerning those things that are shewed by them that preach the Gospell by the holy Ghost that the Angels doe b) What consequence is this The Angels desire to see into the s●crets of our Red inption Ergo. The Ministerie of the Gospell is prepared for them A baculo ad angulum desire to behold the saide things 1. Pet. 1.12 But least any man should thinke that to be vnderstood onely of the accomplishing of the matters preached in the finall and perfect salvation of the elect and whole Church it is also plainely and most perspicuously written that one chiefe ende purpose and intent of preaching the said Gospell and the vnsearchable riches of Christ in the Gospell contained and of making cleere vnto all men the fellowship of the mistery of the Gospell was this that now vnto principalities and powers in heavenly places that is vnto Angels might be knowne by the Church not the great salvation of the Lord but the manifolde wisdome of God Ephes 3.10 To speake therefore for the Gospell and for the sincere ministery Ministers therof is to speake not only for c) But to speake in a schismaticall cause is to speake neither for God nor for Angels God but also for the Angels To spare speaking and other paines taking for the d) Their contention with vs is neither about the Gospell nor the sincere Ministerie thereof Gospell and sincere ministery therof is to spare speaking and taking paines for God him selfe for his blessed Angels and so consequently to provoke both the Lord himselfe of heaven and earth and also the whole host and army of heaven against vs. For what else may bee hoped for where there will not so much as earnest words bee spoken for God or for his Angels Resolution of the 2. Argument The Ministerie of the Gospell is not onely for earthly men but also for heauenly Angels To speake for the Ministrie and Ministers thereof is to speake not onely for GOD but also for the Angels Ergo. The high Court of Parliament is bound to plead for the Ministers otherwise by sparing speach they shall prouoke both the Lord himselfe and also the whole hoste and armie of heauen against them ANSWER 1. To the Antecedent 1. THat the Ministerie of the Gospell is for Angels is an ambiguous perplexed speech and sauours of a Paradoxe For how will the Suppliants vnderstand this saying Is the Ministerie of the Gospell so ordained for Angels that they should be Ministers thereof Vnpossible Is the Ministerie ordained to conuert them and to preach repentance vnto them Absurd Seeing they never sinned Or is it because thereby they might learne and know the Wisedome of God But so do they also by all other the creatures and actions of God 2. What can this make for the Suppliants The Controuersie betweene them and vs is not concerning the Ministerie of the Gospell but touching a few pettie accidentall circumstances for which if any man forsake the necessarie function of his Ministerie and calling he hath the more to answer for 3. Every man is bound to promote the Ministery of the Gospell to his power and also to helpe and further a Minister thereof as he is a Minister not as he is in error or carried away with faction 4. The Errour is 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 in Theologia Also 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 II. To the Consequence 1. It doth not follow that because the wise and iudicious assemblie of Parliament iustly refuse to intermeddle in the quarell of Schismaticall Ministers farther then to admonish them to desist from their singularity and turbulent dealing that therefore they shall prouoke the Lord of Hostes and all the Angels and Saints in heauen against them But rather it followeth on the contrary 2. If that Honourable Court should take part with Schismatikes and intercede for them to detaine both them and the people still in faction and error then certainly they should prouoke the wrath of God and the whole host of heauen against them Psal 50.17.18 c. 3. The Errour is 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 III. ARGVMENT AS a) This the most part of the subsequēt Arguments are grounded vpon a false principle to