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A vulgar or popvlar discourse. Shewing that the warre [raised by the two] houses, fomented chiefly [by the Londo]ners ... and others ... disaffected to monarchicall government is not ... in defence of the ... Protestant religion ... the laws and liberties of the kingdom ... but rather destructive to them all. / Written dialogue-wise, by Irenaeus ... against Eristes ...
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Alvey, Yeldard.
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1643
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Wing V750; ESTC R186086
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the Land entrust Subjects with the Sword against their Soveraigne for by the Law of the Land all we that be Subjects above the age of eighteen yeares are bound to sweare Allegiance to our Soveraigne Lord the Kiâ—g There was an O th enacted Anno 3 Jacobi wherein â—e that t keâ— it sweâ—reâ— That he will bear Faith and true Allegiâ—nce to His M jâ—sty Hâ—â— Heâ—res and Successors c. And Him â—nd them will deâ—enâ— to the utmost of hiâ— power against all Conâ—pâ—â—icies and Aâ—â—mpts whatsoever whiâ—h shall be made agaiâ—st Hâ—â— or tâ—â—r Persons their croâ—n dignity c. Aâ—d it was furâ—â—â—r enacted by Parliament 7 Jacobi That alâ— and â—very Pâ—rson and Pâ—â—soâ—s as well Ecclesiâ—sticall â—s Câ—vill of whâ—t Staâ—e Dignity Quâ—lity or Dâ—gree â—oâ—ver â—e oâ— they bâ— above the age of eighteen yeares in that Act mentioned shall take the said Oath And if all the Subâ—ects in the Land above eighteen yeâ—res old have as by Law they are bound taken the sâ—id Oâ—th unlesse they will wittingly and willingly forsweare themselves they must with all their power defend the Kings Person and Dignity and by consequence they may not oppose either or doe such things as may endanger His Person and lessen His Authority and Dignity Neither may they be Newters and sit still suffering others to wrong him but they must stand up to maintaine his right and to vindicate his wrong And they must defend him by purse bodily service or what way soever they can else they are forsworne Eristes But may we not sometimes lawfully deny obedience to the Kings verball or Personall Commands Irenaeus Yes in some cases it is not only lawfull but necessary to disobey the command of the King as when God commands one thing and the King in a menacing and threatning way commands another then that Speech is seasonable Da veniam Imperator tu carcerem ille Gehennam minatur Give leave O Emperour thou threatnest my body with imprisonment but God can cast both my Soule and Body into Hell the worst and most darkesome Prison of all others In such a case we may and must neglect our duty to our Prince rather then forget our duety to God Nam Regum timendorum in proprios Greges Reges in ipsos Imperium est Jovis For Kings though they be Superiours in regard of their Subjects yet are they inferiour unto God Omne sub regno graviore regnum est Every Kingdom on Earth is under a greater in Heaven And the Apostolicall Canon Rom. 13.1 which wills us to be subject to the higher powers before the lower amongst men doth by Analogy instruct us to be principally subject to that highest power by whom the Powers on Earth are ordained and set in Order one above another When Pharaoh King of Egypt commanded the Hebrew Midwives to strangle the Hebrew Male Children in the birth they feared God and did not the command of the King Exod. 1.17 When Nebuchadnezzâ—r having erected a Golden Image commanded all people to fall down and worship it under penalty of being cast into the hot fiery â—â—rna â— â—hadracke Mâ—sech and Abednego refused to dâ—â— the command of the King because the Law of God forbad them to doe it Dan. 3.18 When Darius had signed a Decree That none should make any Petition to God save only to him for certaine dayes Daniel notwithstanding the Decree went into his House and his Chamber Windowes â—eing opened towards Jâ—rusalem kneeled upon his knees three times a day and prayed to his God contrary to the signed Decree and expâ—esse command of the King Dan. 6.10 The seven Brethren though Antiochus Epiphanes or rather Epimanes threatned to torment them with scourges and whippes yet they would not by all the threatnings and exquisite tormentâ— that â—e could use be compelled to taste of Swine flesh because it was against the Law of their God 1 Maâ—ab 7.1 And Julians Christian Souldiers though they readily sought his Bâ—ttells and obeyed him when he commanded thingâ— lawfull yet Quando veniebatur ad causam Christi Aug in Psa 124. non agâ— osâ—ebant nisi illum qui in Caelo erat quando volebat ut Idola colerent aut thurificarent praeponebant illi Deum When they came to the cause of Christ they would acknowledge no Lord but him that is in Heaven when he commanded them to worship Idolls â—o sacrifice and burne Iâ—cense to his Idoll gods they preferred God before their Prince And thâ— case was clearly resolved long since by the Apostles That when the Kings command câ—osseth the command of God then it is absolutely better for us to obey God than man Acts 5.29 Yet here we must take heed first that we be not led by fancies and groundlesse imaginations but be sure that what the King commands is against Gods Law Secondly That denying obedience we doe it in all humility without scandall and contempt Thirdly That yet we be content to obey passively without resisting the higher power For even then when we cannot with a safe Conscience obey the command of the King because we have received a couâ—ter-command from God we must be subject to him notwithstanding and not dare to rise up against him Nam qui iâ—sâ—rgit in Châ—istum Domini Psal 2.1 insurgit in Dominum Christi For he that riseth up against the Lordâ— Anointed riseth up against the Lord by whom he was Anoynted The least Injury Numb 16.11 1 Sam. 8.7 Indignity Affront of Disgrace that is done to the King whom God hath appointed his immediate Deputy and Vicegerent on Earth to Rule and Governe in his place doth in the reflex extend and redound â—o God himselfe the Author of all Rule and Government and by consequence it must needs be an hainous and hatefull sinne in the sight of God for Subjects to rise up against their Soveraigne though a Nero a bloody persecuter of the Faith much more against a Charles a gracious Defender of the Faith Amb. lib 3. epist 33. Sâ—int Amâ—rose highly commended the people of Millâ—in wâ—en there was hot persecution in the City for the Vâ—yce they then used Rogamus Auguste non pugnamus We omâ—â—nt O Emperour we sight not perhaps you will say tâ—ey durst not yes Non tiâ—emus tamen rogamus We seâ—â— not the Emperours Forces yet we entreat The like Speâ—ch Sâ—int Bernard useth in an Epistle of his to Lewis the French King Stabimus pugnahimus usque ad mortem si ita oâ—oâ—tuerit pro matre nostra Ecclesia Bern. Epist 221. sed Armis quibuâ— licet non scutis gladiis sed precibus fletibusque ad Deuâ— We will stand and sight for our Mother the Church if need be unto death with such Armes and Weaponâ— as lawfully we may not with Sword and Tarâ—et but with Prayers and Teares unto God Tertul. Apol. cap. 37. And Ter◠〈◊〉 in his Apologetick tells uâ— That the Ancient Churâ—hes 〈◊〉 time when they had Heathen and Persâ—â—â—ng Empâ—â—â—rs