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A02909 A Helpe to memory and discourse with table- talke as musicke to a banquet of wine : being a compendium of witty, and vsefull propositions, problemes, and sentences / extracted from the larger volumes of physicians, philosophers, orators and poets, distilled in their assiduous and learned obseruations, and which for method, manner, and referent handling may be fitly tearmed, A Second misselany, or helpe to discourse. Basse, William, d. ca. 1653.; Phillips, E. 1630 (1630) STC 13051.3; ESTC S3795 55,194 175

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told Di●es and as that Diuine Poet wrote to that purpose and if any such appearance there be the Diuell doth assume the shape For doubtles such a Soul as vp doth mourn And doth appeare before her Makers face Holds this vild world in such a base accoūt That shee lookes downe and scornes this wretched place But such as are detruded downe to Hell Either for shame they still themselues retyre Or ty'd in Chaines they in close prison dwell And cannot come although they much desire To this purpose is heere annexed a sto●● of a Diuine and a Lawyer that meeting at dinner the Lawyer to helpe Discourse proposed this question to the Diuine When Lazarus had laine foure dayes in the gra●e and after was raysed vp againe where was his soule in the meane time The Diuine not answering his question proposed vnto him another which was If Lazarus and his heyres should haue fallen at strife about his Lands the Quaere was Whose ought they to haue been This was according to the question in Virgils Eglogues Di● quibus in terris One difficulty choked by proposing another and yet For further confirmation thereof saith Lemnius A Scholler trauelling with his family came into a Towne to aske lodging and finding none It was told him there was a faire house that stood empty that he might either lodge or dwell in gratis but the inconuenience was it was haunted with Sprites and euery night in it was heard a great iumbling and rattling of chaines he nothing affrighted hereat desired to haue it which was accordingly granted At bed-time hauing disposed his family to rest hee himselfe sate vp in a chamber reading about midnight the time that Church-yards yawne and Spirits take their progresse he heard a noyse at bottome of the staires and presently it came vp he nothing daunted ●ate still reading till at last it appeared on the top of the stayres in the similitude of Askeliton or Anatomy wrapped about with chaines of Iron which comming vp beckened with his finger and so went downe the stayres to haue him follow him which he did and first hee led him thorow an outward roome then thorow a yard and thence into a garden where he left him in which place he pulled vp some grasse and left it for a marke and in the next day digged vp that place where was found a man buried that had beene there strangled which man being taken vp and buried with due Rites the house was euer quiet after But this doe I take rather to be an ancient fiction then a certaine truth A certaine Mountebancke hauing long cheated with his drugges and playsters and hauing profited little left his old profession and turned Priest and patching together diuers remnants of old Sermons and Homilies so vnfitly applied that his want of Schollership was soone discouered and hee of his Ministery as soone discarded 〈◊〉 dismission from thence hee made this p●●testation Now shall this businesse you 〈◊〉 done cost many a good mans life The Parishioners thus threatned accuse him before a Iustice The Iustice demanded what he meant to doe Why quoth he I meane to fal to my old trade of Paracelsus and that I am sure will cost some deare Q. Whether doth a dead body in a Shippe cause the Ship to sayle slower and if it doe what is thought to be the reason thereof A. The Shippe is as vnsensible of the liuing as of the dead and as the liuing makes it to goe the faster so the dead makes it not goe the slower for the dead are no Rhemorahs to alter the course of her passage though some there be that thinke so and that by a kinde of mournfull sympathy A Philosopher seeing a yong man proudly decked out like a Shippe vnder saile said I could wish I were such a one as that fond man thinkes himselfe but my enemies such as hee is Seeing likewise the world full of contention wished he might liue to see men striue for loue and not loue to striue Q. What is the Epitome or summe the ●●uare and measure of a Christian mans duty ●hich euen Nature teacheth and God approues A. To doe to others as wee would bee ●one vnto our selues a most vpright iustice ●nd the fulfilling of the Law and the Prophets Q. What is the Epitome or summe of all Philosophy A. It is collected out of the infinite volumes of Philosophers that those precepts that pertaine to humane felicity are comprised onely in these two words sustinendo abstinendo or in ferendo sperando In sustaining and abstaining in induring and hoping in bearing aduersities patiently and abstaining from pleasures warily hope still supporting vs to the Hauen of happinesse that we be not too much cast downe by the one nor corrupted by the other Q. What is that which they that haue nothing else for the most part are not without A. Hope Q. What is the most beautifull thing of all others A. Thal. Mil. answered The World the admirable worke of God and nothing more beautifull himselfe onely excepted wherein we haue the greene Carpet of the earth vnder our feet the goodly Canop●●● heauen ouer our heads fretted with gold●● Starres the wa●y Curtaines of the Ayre beside vs all the creatures to serue and delight vs and all to set forth the praise of the Creator of which both from the Greekes and Latines it receiues the name Clemen● Alexandrinus saith The Creation of the World is the Scripture of God whose 3. leaues are the Heauens the Earth and the Sea being as many letters therein as there are creatures in heauen and earth For the heauens declare the glory of God and the earth sheweth his handy-worke Q. By what Element most hath it pleased God to expresse to the world his Iustice and his mercy A. By Water when for the sinnes of his people hee therewith drowned the World But his mercy thereby in the institution of Baptisme by water and in that hee would haue the holy Spirit by which wee are Regenerate called by the name of Water Q. What shippe of all other was the most ancient the most spacious the most holy and the most rich that euer was or will be A. The Arke of Noe in which all the ●en wealth and creatures that escaped the ●ood were preserued and this is noted to ●●a type of the Church for as without the ●●rke was no safety so without the Church 〈◊〉 no saluation Q. Who was he that of a dumbe Father came 〈◊〉 the most excellent Orator in the world A. S. Iohn Baptist of whom Christ himselfe affirmes no greater to haue risen among the sonnes of women vpon whom ●nd the disparity betweene Christ and him ●●is thus obserued That at his Natiuity the dayes begin to shorten as at Christs Natiuity to increase and lengthen so likewise in their deaths when the body of Christ was exalted and stretched out vpon the Crosse the body of S. Iohn was shortned by the head according to his owne testimony
lightsome and pleasant as children And secondly Like children it makes them speake all they know Q. In what part of the Earth doth no Snow fall A. In the Sea which by reason of the hot vapours it sends vp dissolueth it before it falls therein Q. In what part of the Earth doht it neuer rayne A. In Egypt which is watered by the ouer-flowing of Nylus Q. A certaine Scholler told Esop hee had heard there was nothing more strong then Iron by which all things are wrought and ouercome but yet for all that quoth he I think the Smith to be more strong then it which workes and inforceth it as he pleaseth But what was Esops answer A. The mother of the Smith which he held to be more strong then either which bore the tamer of Iron Q. Dionysius the Tyrant demanded the reason why Philosophers visited the gates of rich men and not rich men the gates of Philosophers A. It was answered by Diogenes Because Philosophers know what they want but these know not and therefore seeke it not for if rich men vnderstood they wanted knowledge they would much more visit the doores of Philosophers for the pouerty of the minde is much more then the pouerty of the body for hee is a man that wants money but a beast that wants knowledge Dionysius King of Sicilia sent for an excellent Musician to sing and play before him promising him a reward therefore The Musician after three dais imployment demanded his reward which this King refused to pay telling him the pleasure of the hope of his reward was as much to him as the pleasure of his singing and so hee should take one pleasure for another Q. Who of all other were the best Orators A. Tully and Demosthenes Q. Wh●t did the Ancients thinke of Homer A. That he was the Father of all wits and hereupon it was that Palaton the painter drew Homer vomiting with a flocke of Poets standing about him ready to sup it vp one of which it was obiected to Virgil that he had beene in that hee had stollen some of Homers verses and framed them into his owne worke who thereunto answered Am not I then a strong man that can wring Hercules Club out of his hand Q. Whether is that Common-wealth more happily gouerned in which the Prince is euill and the Counsellors good or where the Counsellors are euill and the Prince good A. Most true it is that Lampridius reports that that Common-wealth is more safe and better gouerned where the Prince is euill and the Counsellors good then where the Counsellors are euill and the Prince good and the reason is for that one euill man or disposition is more easily amended by the example or perswasion of many good then many euill by the example of one good may become bettered for instance whereof Saul was a wicked King yet by the Counsell of Samuel did he those things which otherwise he would not haue done on the other side there is no Prince so good that may not be seduced by wicked Counsellors Q. S. Austen wished he● had liued to haue seene Rome in her florishing estate to haue heard S. Paul preach to haue seene Christ in the flesh But what saith Lactantius and Bede A. Thereupon Peraduenture saith hee the first wee shall neuer see that is Rome neither is it any matter to see that harlot as she now is but for the other two I trust both to see behold in a greater perfectiō But saith Bede my soule desires onely to see Christ my Redeemer in his exaltation and glory Q. Wherein doth principally consist the worship of God A. In one word God is to be worshipped AMORE Amore summo More vero Ore fideli Re omni With all our loue With the right ma●●●● With faithfull mouth With all affection Q. How is his Kingdome to be purchased A. Hearken and S. Austen will tell thee where in the person of God he thus saith Venale habeo Quid domine I haue to bee sold What Lord The Kingdome of Heauen How is it to be purchased My Kingdome is to be purchased by pouerty my ioy by griefe my rest by labour my glory by ignominy my life by death c. Q. What heires are they that first die before they enter into their possession A. The Faithfull Q. Wherein consists the faith of most ignorant Romanists A. To beleeue as the Church beleeues for instance whereof saith one A Collier being tempted of the Diuell about his faith the Diuel thus asked him how he beleeued quoth he I beleeue as the Church beleeues And how beleeues the Church quoth the Diuell As I beleeue saith the Collier and further the diuell could not driue him Euen such is the faith of the Church of Rome and her ignorant followers vnderstanding nothing but following others opinions in beleeuing as they beleeue Q. A certaine godly man being inuited to a banquet on the morrow following what was his answer A. If you will any thing with me now I am ready but I will not promise you to be so to morrow for of all the dayes that I haue liued I haue not beene assured of one morrow Q. Wherein consisteth true wisedome A. Not in grauity of looke in face or hayre but in the wisedome of the minde which is to remember time past to imbrace the present and wisely prouide for the time to come to which purpose is heere inserted the error of King Fredericke to whom the Venetians sometimes sent Embassadors two Gentlemen very seeming young but of ripe wisdome vnderstanding the King distasting their too-much seeming youth would not admit them into his presence who thereupon answered him that if the Senate of Venice had imagined wisdome to cōsist in hoarinesse or beard they would haue sent him two long bearded Goates to which purpose the Poet thus supplieth Si prolixa facit sapientem barba quid obstat Barbatus possit quin caper esse Plato English If wisdome did consist in hayre or beard A Goat might then to Plato be preferd Q. What part of what creature is that which mingles all the foure Elements in one A. The belly of man which receiues into it the fruits of the Earth of Trees the fishes of the Sea the fowles of the ayre and in stead of the Element of fire strong wines spices and the like that it is no wonder if they ruine the whole where such diuersities of mixtures are Frigida cum calidis pugnant humentis siccis Mollia cum duris sine pondere habentia pondus Where cold and hot and moist and dry And soft hard things light heauy lie Q. What was the Greeke Monkes answere to him that demanded the reason wherefore he would not eat his meat sitting but walking A. Because quoth hee I will not make of it as a worke but as an accessory thereunto but our seasons yeeld more Philoxines then such Greekes that will not onely sit with ease to prolong time but with him
which as say some Moses seemes to assent where it is said in Genesis Let the earth bring forth the greene herbe and trees bring forth fruit according to their kinde The Egyptians thinke it was created in Summer most in the Spring Likewise they vary about the Planets and what houses they were created in some thinke when the Sunne was in Leo the Moone in Cancer and so of the rest Which may be somewhat more confirmed by this necessary rule following for the falling of Easter day which is As vpon the 10 day of the first moneth from the creation which is March at the coniunction of the Sunne and the Moone next the Equinoctiall the Paschall Lambe was chosen out of the flocke and kept till the 14. day or full Moone so the tenth day of the first moneth being Palm sunday our Sauiour entred into Ierusalem and the 14 day suffered his passion so as the next Sunday after the 14. day of the Moone or full Moon in the moneth of March is alwayes Easter day and probable to confirme the former supposition Q. But of this what shall I determine A. That by the wisedome mercy and goodnesse of God it was created in the fulnesse of time in what part his wisedome thought most meet the admirable composition and frame whereof that wee daily contemplate and behold with the eyes of our vnderstanding with the diuersity and distinction of all the creatures therein they and all these for the seuerall vses and seruice of man and man onely for the seruice of God Q. Wherefore then since the world was only made for man for man onely knowes the vs● thereof are the dayes of his pilgrimage v●●on earth contracted from the length of many cubits to a span-long in comparison of the trebled date and extension of bruit beasts senslesse and irrationall creatures as the Hart the Daw the Oake Rauens Rockes and such like most of which haue trebled dates beyond the short period of mans life For concerning the Hart one of the most doubtfull of whons notwithstanding Hist●ries make mention How Alexander desirous to aepproue to posterity the long life of this creature to that end caused to be put certaine golden collers about diuers of their neckes with the time of their dates some of which were found 100. yeeres after his death in full vigour and liuelihood not perceiued to decline or grown into age but continuing and lasting when the life of man doth vanish like a shadow like a flower when neither Absolons beauty Samsons strength Salomons wisedome Asaels swiftnesse Croesus wealth Alexanders liberality Hectors strength Homers eloquence Augustus fortune Traianes iustice Ciceroes zeale one nor all of these can protect it but that hee falls from the graue of the wombe to the wombe of the graue cut downe like a flower as these verses seeme to import Est hominum status per florem significatus Vt flos cito perit sic homo puluis erit Mans life is fitly semblanc'd by the flowers Which flourish now and fade ere many ho●res Therefore this inequality considered may it not be thought iniustice and wrong to man in this disposure and if not by what consequent or reason may he settle his appeasement For as the Poet If death destroy vs quite we haue great wrong Since for our seruice al things else were wrought That Dawes and Trees and Rockes should last so long When we must at an instant turne to naught A. By this Because the wise Creator fore-saw that these in their dislolution though neuer so long protracted should altogether perish but man at his end should but renew a better nay an immortall life and therefore what he is abridged of here he hath amends for hereafter Q. Wherein consists the naturall life of man that it so soone doth cease and so quickly wheele off from the thing of so vnstable continuance A. In heat and moisture which daily wasting themselues to keep life afoot are againe daily replenished in vs by our meat and drinke for by our meat is our naturall heat maintained and by our drinke the radicall moisture daily replenished Q. Why should the Epicure then say Let vs eate and drinke for to morrow wee shall dye when by eating and drinking our life is strengthened and renewed and why may not the life of man by this moderate and seasonable supplie be preserued continually at least-wise the life of our fore-fathers A. Because as the Sea hath bounds which it cannot passe so is there to euery life a period set Hitherto shalt thou come and no further which though it may be shortened as it is in the Psalme The bloud-thirsty and deceitfull man shall not liue forth halfe his daies yet can it in no wise be prolonged further at leastwise prorogued euer for set all other aduersaries aside Time it selfe shall at last bring in age whose antipathy shal be such that it shal quench thy heat and dry vp thy moisture for be thou neuer so well fenced comes death at last and with a little pinne bores thorow thy Castle wall and farewell man But of this formerly more at large Q. What were the opinions of the Egyptian Sages and Philosophers concerning the longitude or breuity of mans life and whereupon did they ground their reasons A. They were conceited that men did liue according to the increasing or diminishing of the heart some thinking the heart to grow and increase till 50. yeers and that it did augment euery yeere 2. drachmes weight grown to the full bignes did again diminish euery yeere as much vntil it came to nothing whereupon ensued death Q. What are the opinions of some more moderne Physicians for the naturall length or shortnesse thereof vpon the dependencie of Complexion either good or euill A. Some thinke that the more better complexion as those of the Sanguine bee long in growing old because they haue much heat and humidity That the melancholy waxeth soone old because they be cold and dry and as touching the feminine sex they become sooner old then the masculine Hipocrates reporteth that female children in their mothers wombes are formed in seuen moneths and then after grow slowlier then men but borne grow faster and become sooner wise and sooner old for the feeblenesse of their body and manner of life being for the most part idle is an inducement to old age Q. Whether are the tall or low of stature according to the coniectures of some learned of longest health or life A. Some thinke the shortest statures because their vitall spirits are more strong and nimble imparting their liuelihood with more vigor in their shorter circuit then in the more spacious compasse others again that they are more durable because the Cedar many times is sooner blasted with a tēpest then the shrubs others are of a contrary opinion that the taller limbes haue the more temperate humours and complections that fumes not so much do offend the braine because the stomacke and it are more separate