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A69095 The third part of the Defence of the Reformed Catholike against Doct. Bishops Second part of the Reformation of a Catholike, as the same was first guilefully published vnder that name, conteining only a large and most malicious preface to the reader, and an answer to M. Perkins his aduertisement to Romane Catholicks, &c. Whereunto is added an aduertisement for the time concerning the said Doct. Bishops reproofe, lately published against a little piece of the answer to his epistle to the King, with an answer to some few exceptions taken against the same, by M. T. Higgons latley become a proselyte of the Church of Rome. By R. Abbot Doctor of Diuinitie.; Defence of the Reformed Catholicke of M. W. Perkins. Part 3 Abbot, Robert, 1560-1618. 1609 (1609) STC 50.5; ESTC S100538 452,861 494

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methodius_n on_o the_o one_o side_n speak_v for_o auxentius_n and_o himself_o and_o aglaophon_n as_o the_o better_a man_n on_o the_o other_o side_n for_o proclus_n and_o himself_o where_o methodius_n say_v to_o aglaophon_n thus_o sunt_fw-la thus_o pag._n 185._o b._n dicebator_n anima_fw-la corpus_fw-la hoc_fw-la nobis_fw-la circumsitum_fw-la propter_fw-la transgressionem_fw-la suscepisse_fw-la cùm_fw-la superioribus_fw-la temporibus_fw-la absque_fw-la ipso_fw-la foelicitèr_fw-la degissetpelliceas_fw-la enim_fw-la tunicas_fw-la corpora_fw-la esse_fw-la in_o quae_fw-la concludi_fw-la animas_fw-la contigitsquo_fw-la mortale_fw-la gestantes_fw-la pro_fw-la his_fw-la quae_fw-la fecerunt_fw-la poenam_fw-la darent_fw-la anon_o erant_fw-la haec_fw-la quae_fw-la primùm_fw-la in_o principio_fw-la ante_fw-la dicta_fw-la sunt_fw-la imò_fw-la a●mone_fw-it si_fw-la non_fw-la vidèor_fw-la tibi_fw-la rectè_fw-la meminisse_fw-la non_fw-la opus_fw-la habes_fw-la inquit_fw-la ille_fw-la admonitione_n haec_fw-la ipsa_fw-la enim_fw-la erant_fw-la quae_fw-la inprimis_fw-la à_fw-la nobis_fw-la dicta_fw-la sunt_fw-la it_o be_v say_v that_o the_o soul_n receive_v this_o body_n that_o be_v about_o we_o for_o sin_n and_o transgression_n when_o as_o before_o time_n it_o have_v lit_v happy_o without_o it_o and_o that_o the_o coat_n of_o skin_n be_v these_o body_n wherein_o it_o have_v befall_v our_o soul_n to_o be_v shut_v up_o whereby_o in_o state_n of_o mortality_n they_o may_v be_v punish_v for_o the_o thing_n they_o do_v amiss_o be_v it_o not_o this_o that_o be_v before_o say_v tell_v i_o if_o i_o seem_v not_o right_o to_o remember_v aglaophon_n answer_v thou_o need_v no_o tell_n thus_o it_o be_v indeed_o that_o we_o say_v before_o anon_o after_o he_o ask_v he_o again_o dicis_fw-la again_o pag._n 186._o a_o nun_n &_o illud_fw-la inquam_fw-la o_o aglaophon_n videtur_fw-la tibi_fw-la non_fw-la rectè_fw-la habere_fw-la dicere_fw-la vinculum_fw-la &_o pedicas_fw-la corpus_fw-la construclun_fw-la esse_fw-la contra_fw-la animam_fw-la &_o quòd_fw-la propheta_fw-la vinctos_fw-la terrae_fw-la nos_fw-la dixit_fw-la ideoque_fw-la etiam_fw-la david_n ligatos_fw-la et_fw-la ille_fw-la non_fw-la habeo_fw-la inquit_fw-la in_fw-la promptu_fw-la quod_fw-la tibi_fw-la respondean_fw-la et_fw-la paulò_fw-la post_fw-la tu_fw-la inquam_fw-la ergo_fw-la vinculis_fw-la &_o carcerem_fw-la &_o sepulchrum_fw-la &_o onus_fw-la &_o pedicas_fw-la ipsum_fw-la corpus_fw-la esse_fw-la dixisti_fw-la vera_fw-la inquit_fw-la ille_fw-la mihi_fw-la dicis_fw-la seem_v it_o not_o amiss_o to_o thou_o aglaophon_n to_o say_v that_o the_o body_n be_v make_v for_o fetter_n and_o chain_n against_o the_o soul_n and_o that_o the_o prophet_n call_v we_o prisoner_n of_o the_o earth_n and_o that_o david_n term_v we_o man_n in_o bond_n where_o be_v doubtful_a to_o be_v circumvent_v he_o answer_v i_o can_v ready_o tell_v what_o to_o say_v but_o be_v persuade_v by_o methodius_n to_o say_v his_o mind_n and_o charge_v again_o that_o he_o say_v that_o the_o body_n be_v a_o bond_n and_o a_o prison_n and_o a_o grave_n and_o a_o burden_n and_o fetter_n he_o answer_v it_o be_v true_a as_o thou_o say_v now_o since_o this_o be_v the_o opinion_n of_o aglaophon_n and_o proclus_n according_a to_o the_o doctrine_n of_o their_o master_n origen_n who_o in_o this_o behalf_n they_o follow_v how_o be_v m._n bishop_n bewitch_v to_o take_v those_o word_n which_o propound_v the_o confutation_n of_o this_o opinion_n to_o be_v the_o word_n of_o proclus_n yea_o it_o be_v further_a to_o be_v note_v that_o as_o in_o the_o latter_a part_n where_o m._n bishop_n confess_v methodius_n to_o speak_v so_o in_o the_o former_a also_o the_o speaker_n still_o direct_v his_o speech_n against_o aglaophon_n the_o companion_n of_o proclus_n etc._n proclus_n pag._n 177._o c._n at_o fortassis_fw-la opponentis_fw-la vosipsos_fw-la adversus_fw-la relata_fw-la o_o aglaophon_n &_o dicetis_fw-la etc._n etc._n but_o you_o aglaophon_n will_v oppose_v yourselves_o against_o the_o thing_n that_o have_v be_v speak_v aglaophon_n speak_v pag_n 180._o b._n attend_v o_o sapientissime_fw-la aglaophon_n listen_v here_o o_o wise_a aglaophon_n etc._n aglaophon_n pag._n 182._o b._n vbi_fw-la dominum_fw-la pronunciasse_n dixisti_fw-la etc._n etc._n mox_fw-la intu●sti_fw-la etc._n etc._n ignarus_fw-la quòd_fw-la qui_fw-la etc._n etc._n thou_o say_v thus_o aglaophon_n not_o know_v that_o he_o that_o have_v make_v all_o thing_n of_o nothing_o etc._n etc._n oportet_fw-la etc._n pag._n 183._o c._n sic_fw-la te_fw-la o_fw-la sapientissime_fw-la aglaophon_n considerare_fw-la oportet_fw-la thus_o it_o behove_v thou_o to_o consider_v o_o wise_a aglaophon_n what_o will_v m._n bishop_n here_o say_v will_v he_o to_o save_v himself_o set_v aglaophon_n and_o proclus_n together_o by_o the_o ear_n can_v he_o make_v we_o believe_v that_o proclus_n here_o dispute_v against_o aglaophon_n his_o own_o fellow_n nay_o be_v he_o so_o mad_a as_o so_o to_o believe_v himself_o but_o if_o this_o be_v not_o enough_o let_v we_o look_v into_o the_o matter_n of_o the_o discourse_n and_o see_v how_o well_o it_o accord_v with_o the_o opinion_n of_o origen_n and_o proclus_n remember_v brief_o what_o their_o conceit_n be_v that_o the_o soul_n be_v first_o alone_o without_o the_o body_n that_o in_o that_o state_n it_o sin_v and_o for_o a_o punishment_n be_v thrust_v into_o the_o body_n and_o that_o this_o body_n be_v not_o that_o wherein_o we_o shall_v rise_v again_o but_o that_o god_n will_v create_v a_o spiritual_a and_o more_o excellent_a body_n bear_v only_o the_o figure_n and_o shape_n of_o this_o now_o the_o speaker_n in_o this_o discourse_n dispute_v first_o apparet_fw-la first_o pag._n 177._o b._n homo_fw-la verissimè_fw-la dicitur_fw-la secundum_fw-la naturam_fw-la neque_fw-la anima_fw-la sine_fw-la corpore_fw-la neque_fw-la corpus_fw-la sine_fw-la anima_fw-la sed_fw-la quod_fw-la ex_fw-la compage_fw-la animae_fw-la &_o corporis_fw-la in_o una_fw-la boni_fw-la formam_fw-la compositum_fw-la est_fw-la unde_fw-la hinc_fw-la immortalem_fw-la hominem_fw-la factum_fw-la esse_fw-la apparet_fw-la that_o god_n in_o the_o beginning_n make_v man_n immortal_a consist_v of_o a_o body_n and_o a_o soul_n because_o according_a to_o truth_n of_o nature_n man_n be_v call_v neither_o the_o soul_n without_o the_o body_n nor_o the_o body_n without_o the_o soul_n but_o that_o which_o be_v make_v into_o one_o by_o the_o conjunction_n of_o body_n and_o soul_n mark_v here_o in_o the_o very_a beginning_n a_o express_a contradiction_n to_o the_o opinion_n of_o proclus_n namely_o that_o man_n be_v at_o the_o first_o create_v not_o a_o soul_n alone_o but_o a_o body_n and_o a_o soul_n then_o he_o show_v that_o moreretur_fw-la that_o pag._n 179._o a_o pollutus_fw-la &_o inquinatus_fw-la est_fw-la homo_fw-la à_fw-la sententia_fw-la dei_fw-la this_fw-mi essione_n facta_fw-la &_o multas_fw-la maliciei_fw-la maculas_fw-la sibi_fw-la affricuit_fw-la quas_fw-la princeps_fw-la ille_fw-la &_o pater_fw-la erroris_fw-la peperit_fw-la etc._n etc._n deus_fw-mi omnipeten_v immortal_a malum_fw-la ex_fw-la insidijs_fw-la ipsum_fw-la factum_fw-la intuitus_fw-la velut_fw-la etiam_fw-la diabolus_fw-la seductor_n erat_fw-la pelliceas_fw-la tunicas_fw-la ob_fw-la id_fw-la fecit_fw-la velut_fw-la mortalitate_fw-la ipsos_fw-la amiciens_fw-la quò_fw-la per_fw-la corporis_fw-la solutionem_fw-la omne_fw-la in_o ipso_fw-la factum_fw-la malum_fw-la moreretur_fw-la man_n become_v pollute_v &_o defile_v by_o swerve_v and_o decline_v from_o the_o commandment_n of_o god_n and_o do_v set_v upon_o himself_o many_o spot_n of_o wickedness_n which_o the_o prince_n and_o father_n of_o error_n bring_v forth_o and_o that_o god_n behold_v man_n thus_o make_v by_o the_o subtlety_n of_o satan_n immortal_o evil_a as_o satan_n himself_o be_v do_v make_v for_o the_o man_n and_o the_o woman_n garment_n of_o skin_n as_o it_o be_v clothe_v they_o with_o mortality_n to_o the_o end_n that_o by_o the_o dissolution_n of_o the_o body_n all_o the_o evil_a that_o be_v wrought_v in_o he_o may_v die_v hereupon_o he_o proove_v that_o the_o make_n of_o coat_n of_o skine_n can_v be_v understand_v of_o the_o make_n of_o body_n see_v hominem_fw-la see_v ibid._n adam_n confitetur_fw-la se_fw-la ossa_fw-la habere_fw-la &_o carnes_z etc._n etc._n accepit_fw-la deus_fw-la limun_fw-la de_fw-la terra_fw-la &_o formavit_fw-la hominem_fw-la quod_fw-la propriè_fw-la de_fw-la corpore_fw-la dictum_fw-la esse_fw-la apparet_fw-la non_fw-la enim_fw-la de_fw-fr limo_fw-la &_o gravioribus_fw-la essentiam_fw-la aedepta_fw-la est_fw-la amma_fw-la quarè_v verissimè_fw-la certum_fw-la est_fw-la undequaque_fw-la ante_fw-la pelliceas_fw-la tunicas_fw-la incorporatum_fw-la fuisse_fw-la hominem_fw-la it_o be_v evident_a that_o man_n before_o the_o coat_n of_o skin_n have_v a_o body_n for_o that_o it_o be_v say_v by_o adam_n concern_v euah_n this_o be_v flesh_n of_o my_o flesh_n and_o bone_n of_o my_o bone_n and_o of_o the_o creation_n of_o man_n it_o be_v write_v that_o god_n form_v he_o of_o the_o dust_n or_o slime_n of_o the_o earth_n which_o be_v manifest_o speak_v of_o the_o body_n because_o the_o soul_n have_v not_o his_o be_v thereof_o this_o be_v also_o direct_o against_o the_o fancy_n of_o proclus_n for_o proclus_n hold_v that_o the_o make_n of_o those_o coat_n be_v the_o make_n of_o body_n but_o this_o author_n proove_v that_o the_o body_n be_v
patriarch_n prophet_n apostle_n etc._n etc._n we_o separate_v christ_n from_o the_o order_n of_o man_n by_o the_o honour_n and_o adoration_n which_o we_o perform_v unto_o he_o that_o be_v to_o say_v say_v he_o again_o we_o do_v not_o offer_v thanks_o for_o he_o as_o we_o do_v for_o some_o other_o man_n but_o unto_o he_o as_o be_v god_n of_o equal_a majesty_n with_o his_o father_n but_o it_o be_v he_o himself_o indeed_o that_o by_o this_o exposition_n do_v manifest_o wrest_v the_o word_n of_o epiphanius_n the_o circumstance_n whereof_o by_o he_o guileful_o omit_v do_v clear_o convince_v that_o they_o can_v by_o no_o mean_n be_v take_v as_o he_o expound_v they_o his_o word_n be_v these_o terra_fw-la these_o epip_n haer_fw-mi 75._o verun_v enimuerò_fw-la eo_fw-la quòd_fw-la nos_fw-la saepe_fw-la dum_fw-la in_o mundo_fw-la sumus_fw-la fallimur_fw-la &_o erramus_fw-la tum_fw-la inviti_fw-la tum_fw-la voluntariè_fw-la quòid_fw-la quod_fw-la perfectius_fw-la est_fw-la significetur_fw-la &_o pro_fw-la iustis_fw-la &_o pro_fw-la peccatoribus_fw-la memoriam_fw-la facimus_fw-la pro_fw-la peccatoribus_fw-la quidem_fw-la misericordiam_fw-la dei_fw-la implorantes_fw-la pro_fw-la iustis_fw-la verò_fw-la &_o patribus_fw-la &_o patriarchis_fw-la prophetis_fw-la apostolis_n euangelistis_fw-la etc._n etc._n ut_fw-la do_v minun_fw-fr jesum_fw-la christum_fw-la ab_fw-la hominum_fw-la ordine_fw-la separemus_fw-la per_fw-la honorem_fw-la quem_fw-la ipsi_fw-la exhibemus_fw-la &_o ut_fw-la adorationem_fw-la ipsi_fw-la praestemus_fw-la illud_fw-la mente_fw-la voientes_fw-la quòd_fw-la dominus_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la alicui_fw-la homini_fw-la adaequatus_fw-la ●tiamsi_fw-la millies_fw-la &_o ultra_fw-la in_o iustitia_fw-la degat_fw-la unusquisque_fw-la homo_fw-la quomodo_fw-la enim_fw-la possibile_fw-la fuerit_fw-la ille_fw-la enim_fw-la est_fw-la deus_fw-la hic_fw-la homo_fw-la &_o ille_fw-la in_o coelo_fw-la hic_fw-la in_o terra_fw-la per_fw-la reliquias_fw-la in_o terra_fw-la very_o for_o that_o while_o we_o be_v in_o the_o world_n we_o be_v often_o deceive_v and_o go_v awry_o both_o unwilling_o and_o with_o our_o will_n to_o the_o end_n that_o that_o which_o be_v more_o perfect_a may_v be_v signify_v we_o make_v a_o memorial_n both_o for_o the_o just_a &_o for_o sinner_n for_o sinner_n entreat_v the_o mercy_n of_o god_n but_o for_o the_o just_a the_o father_n the_o patriarch_n the_o prophet_n the_o apostle_n the_o martyr_n and_o confessor_n the_o bishop_n and_o anchorite_n and_o the_o whole_a order_n that_o we_o may_v separate_v our_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n from_o the_o order_n of_o man_n by_o the_o honour_n which_o we_o yield_v unto_o he_o and_o may_v perform_v worship_n unto_o he_o weigh_v this_o in_o our_o mind_n that_o the_o lord_n be_v not_o compare_v to_o any_o man_n though_o a_o man_n live_v in_o righteousness_n a_o thousand_o time_n and_o more_o for_o how_o shall_v it_o be_v possible_a for_o the_o one_o be_v god_n the_o other_o man_n the_o one_o in_o heaven_n the_o other_o in_o earth_n by_o remainder_n of_o his_o body_n in_o the_o earth_n where_o thou_o be_v to_o note_v gentle_a reader_n that_o epiphanius_n say_v not_o as_o m._n higgon_n report_v we_o make_v a_o memorial_n of_o the_o just_a of_o the_o patriarch_n etc._n etc._n but_o for_o they_o neither_o do_v he_o say_v only_o we_o make_v a_o memorial_n for_o the_o just_a but_o we_o make_v a_o memorial_n for_o the_o just_a and_o for_o sinner_n meaning_n by_o sinner_n such_o as_o have_v be_v public_o note_v some_o way_n or_o other_o for_o evil_a life_n now_o the_o phrase_n be_v one_o &_o the_o act_n one_o both_o for_o the_o one_o and_o for_o the_o other_o how_o shall_v m._n higgon_n persuade_v we_o that_o it_o be_v a_o prayer_n for_o the_o one_o &_o only_o a_o thanksgiving_n for_o the_o other_o epiphanius_n say_v not_o so_o nor_o give_v any_o ground_n whereupon_o to_o conceive_v it_o to_o be_v so_o and_o that_o this_o memorial_n or_o commemoration_n be_v a_o prayer_n for_o they_o that_o be_v thus_o remember_v appear_v by_o s._n austin_n say_v that_o ecclesia_fw-la that_o aug._n de_fw-fr cura_fw-la pro_fw-la mortuis_fw-la gerenda_fw-la cap._n 4._o supplicationes_fw-la pro_fw-la spiritibus_fw-la mortuorum_fw-la quas_fw-la faciend_n as_o pro_fw-la omnibus_fw-la in_o christiana_n &_o catholica_fw-la societate_fw-la defunclis_fw-la sub_fw-la generali_fw-la commemoratione_n suscepit_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la the_o church_n have_v receive_v under_o a_o general_a commemoration_n to_o make_v supplication_n for_o the_o spirit_n of_o the_o dead_a even_o for_o all_o that_o be_v dead_a in_o the_o christian_a and_o catholic_a society_n now_o if_o it_o be_v a_o prayer_n which_o be_v use_v for_o all_o that_o have_v die_v in_o christian_a society_n than_o it_o be_v a_o prayer_n which_o be_v use_v for_o the_o saint_n martyr_n confessor_n etc._n etc._n therefore_o chrysostome_n faith_n that_o fiat_fw-la that_o chrysost_n de_fw-fr sacerdot_n lib._n 6._o deprecator_fw-la est_fw-la apud_fw-la deum_fw-la ut_fw-la hominum_fw-la omnium_fw-la non_fw-la viventium_fw-la modò_fw-la sed_fw-la etiam_fw-la mortuorum_fw-la peccat_fw-la be_v propitius_fw-la fiat_fw-la the_o priest_n pray_v to_o god_n to_o be_v merciful_a to_o the_o sin_n of_o all_o both_o quick_a and_o dead_a i_o question_v not_o here_o what_o construction_n latter_a time_n make_v hereof_o i_o know_v that_o this_o custom_n as_o it_o grow_v to_o be_v use_v grow_v to_o be_v question_v and_o because_o it_o seem_v absurd_a to_o pray_v for_o they_o that_o already_o be_v in_o heaven_n which_o notwithstanding_o the_o church_n former_o have_v do_v as_o out_o of_o the_o ecclesiastical_a hierarchy_n i_o most_o clear_o prove_v therefore_o though_o the_o form_n of_o word_n be_v one_o and_o the_o same_o for_o all_o yet_o by_o interpretation_n they_o make_v they_o a_o prayer_n for_o some_o only_a and_o a_o thanksgiving_n for_o the_o rest_n s._n austin_n i_o take_v it_o be_v the_o first_o that_o ever_o bring_v in_o that_o rule_n that_o martyr_n that_o august_n de_fw-fr verb._n apost_n ser_fw-mi 17._o i●uria_fw-la est_fw-la orare_fw-la pro_fw-la martyr_n he_o do_v wrong_a to_o a_o martyr_n that_o pray_v for_o he_o but_o let_v m._n higgon_n wrangle_v hereof_o all_o he_o can_v by_o the_o very_a place_n of_o epiphanius_n that_o which_o i_o say_v be_v plain_o evict_v for_o when_o he_o say_v that_o we_o often_o be_v deceive_v and_o go_v awry_o so_o long_o as_o we_o be_v in_o this_o world_n he_o thereby_o express_v the_o cause_n why_o they_o do_v make_v that_o memorial_n both_o for_o the_o sinner_n and_o for_o the_o just_a there_o be_v none_o so_o just_a but_o that_o that_o be_v verify_v in_o they_o that_o they_o be_v often_o deceive_v and_o go_v awry_o now_o will_v m._n higgon_n make_v epiphanius_n to_o say_v of_o the_o saint_n and_o just_a man_n that_o because_o so_o long_o as_o they_o be_v in_o this_o world_n they_o be_v often_o deceive_v and_o go_v amiss_o therefore_o now_o we_o give_v thanks_o for_o they_o it_o be_v very_o absurd_a to_o say_v so_o but_o the_o other_o way_n the_o word_n be_v clear_a that_o because_o we_o be_v all_o subject_n to_o sin_n therefore_o we_o pray_v for_o all_o and_o if_o by_o this_o it_o be_v not_o plain_a enough_o the_o rest_n shall_v make_v it_o more_o plain_a for_o out_o of_o this_o reason_n issue_v another_o of_o as_o great_a effect_n when_o he_o say_v that_o this_o memorial_n be_v make_v for_o just_a and_o holy_a man_n that_o we_o may_v separate_v our_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n from_o the_o order_n of_o man_n by_o the_o honour_n that_o we_o do_v unto_o he_o which_o honour_n wherein_o it_o stand_v be_v understand_v by_o those_o former_a word_n that_o that_o which_o be_v more_o perfect_a may_v be_v signify_v note_v it_o to_o be_v the_o acknowledge_v of_o his_o most_o high_a and_o glorious_a perfection_n he_o only_o be_v free_a from_o all_o spot_n and_o stain_v of_o sin_n and_o uncleanness_n but_o all_o other_o carry_v the_o mark_n of_o frailty_n and_o corruption_n betokened_a not_o in_o give_v thanks_o as_o i_o hope_v m._n higgon_n will_v confess_v but_o rather_o in_o pray_v for_o they_o to_o which_o purpose_n he_o yet_o further_o more_o plain_o add_v those_o other_o word_n and_o that_o we_o may_v yield_v worship_n to_o he_o but_o how_o weigh_v in_o our_o mind_n that_o there_o be_v no_o man_n compare_v to_o he_o though_o a_o man_n live_v in_o righteousness_n a_o thousand_o time_n and_o more_o by_o which_o word_n it_o be_v clear_a as_o the_o light_n that_o that_o separation_n whereof_o he_o speak_v have_v no_o intendment_n of_o the_o difference_n which_o m._n higgon_n mention_v of_o give_v thanks_o to_o the_o one_o and_o for_o the_o other_o but_o that_o it_o concern_v righteousness_n and_o sin_n it_o be_v to_o be_v know_v by_o this_o memorial_n that_o all_o the_o saint_n even_o they_o that_o attein_v to_o the_o great_a measure_n of_o righteousness_n yet_o be_v man_n be_v subject_a to_o infirmity_n and_o imperfection_n that_o so_o 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